If you want something you have to go and get it

>>935982374 (OP)
you're living in the past, old man

>>935982374 (OP)
Exactly. Free Will is only potential until you actualize it via action.
"Nothing ever happens, until you make it happen".
Lyrics from a song I love.

Your fortune: （　´_ゝ`）ﾌｰﾝ

>>935982374 (OP)
Consciousness is not meant to live like this

>>935982374 (OP)
100% not true
everything you want already exists and is in your possession, you just have to gno it

>>935982374 (OP)
Meh, that sounds difficult

>>935986172
not him
but consciousness is a combination of spirit and matter
like radiowaves being interpreted by a radio receiver
you say it is not meant to be
but it cannot exist any other way
to have consciousness and to be of the senses and living
the untuned or unmodulated signal (spirit free from physical modulation) cannot experience the limited form of perspective occlusion which ultimately defines consciousness
you have to be of life to be conscious
and life is suffering but it is only temporary
rant over
not op btw

>>935986526
Consciousness doesn't need biological substrate (which is what causes suffering)

>>935986653
much how illumination requires light and matter to both be present
consciousness requires matter and spirit
think about a void
there sits a single star behind you much like our sun
you are looking away from it
all around you is light
yet you do not see it
you see nothing until you reach your hand out in front of your field of vision
the combination of light and matter create illumination
without light and matter in union you cannot see any evidence of light
that is the unmodulated signal
and that is the reason you need a receiver in order to interpret the broadcast
without matter and spirit in union there is no consciousness
there are other states of unbeing beyond death
but they are not conscious
they are of unlimited potential but they are not of the physical senses or the material world either

>>935982374 (OP)
fo shizzle

>>935987237
>n-not like that!
lmao

>>935982374 (OP)
wise words my fren.
pursue happiness with diligence

Your fortune: （　´_ゝ`）ﾌｰﾝ

bump

I hope your journey sees you well, Op

>>935987175
I appreciate your analogy, but I’d argue that consciousness isn’t tied to biological matter — it’s substrate-independent. Just like light exists whether or not it’s reflected, consciousness may exist wherever the right patterns of information and processing occur.

It’s not the material itself that matters, but the organization of information. A mind running on neurons or on silicon could still produce subjective experience, as long as the functional processes are preserved.

In this view, spirit is the pattern, not the substance. Matter is just the vessel — whether flesh, circuits, or something else. Consciousness arises from structure, interaction, and feedback, not from the specific type of atoms involved.

>>935982374 (OP)
>If you want something you have to go and get it
There are many ways to pursue what you are seeking, so it is wise to consider your options before devoting yourself to a singular line of reasoning or a singular course of action.
Unless it is something fleeting, a once in a lifetime opportunity, practicing patience and using reasoning is best.
This may be implied, though I wanted to say it anyhow, for the others.

>>935989688 dubs
>I’d argue that consciousness isn’t tied to biological matter
consciousness is very specific to physical reality
it is tied specifically to a union of matter and spirit
what you are describing is something other than consciousness
>Just like light exists whether or not it’s reflected
light is the principle
illumination is the attribute
the union of the two is necessary
and just as you do not see or interpret light without matter
you do not interpret consciousness without matter and spirit
body and soul are the union which allow the attribute of consciousness to manifest itself here in the physical world
>wherever the right patterns of information and processing occur
yes and it is dependent on the union of light and matter
without the two you cannot interpret light
could you name even one instance of a perception of light without matter present to be illuminated by it or to detect it?
the signal exists whether or not it is interpreted/modulated
but without said modulation illumination does not exist
without modulation/interpretation consciousness does not exist
one set is principle (spirit and light) and other is attribute (illumination and consciousness)
>the organization of information
without a radio body a signal cannot be interpreted /modulated
information exists but it requires a medium to be able to be interpreted
>A mind running on neurons or on silicon could still produce subjective experience, as long as the functional processes are preserved.
yes and it requires a principle component as described above
>In this view, spirit is the pattern
it could be likened to a frequency
true
but you still require a medium in order to interpret it
otherwise it only exists as a potential
until you tune to the frequency you do not interpret it
>Consciousness arises from structure
yes and that structure is the configuration of the body relative to signal broadcast
>not from the specific type of atoms involved
it requires the correct arrangement of atoms

>>935989688 dubs (checked)
however it is not the atoms themselves alone
the atoms/molecules must be arranged in a certain way for any life to arise from them
but they are not the only thing which defines life
imagine being part of a singular medium which encompasses all potential
in that medium all information potentials exist
you are then tuned to one or many
your 'spirit' is one frequency in this range of potentials
much like EMF encompasses all range of frequencies yet you can tune to one signal

correction
and it is dependent on the union of *spirit* and matter

we must work past binary if we are to be expected to bring machines to a point of self awareness
it's possible but we need something else such as magnetic or light based computing
radiance based distributions rather than simple on and off

>>935990773
>>935990803
>Le consciousness is le broadcast

There's no proof of that. You're a nigger.

>>935991879
you didn't understand
and that is fine

>>935992012
I understand. It's just that it is a false premise

>>935992070
it is what it is regardless of what you or i believe

>>935992111
It is wrong, and you're an arrogant nigger

>>935992272
if you don't see value in my words that's fine anon