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Anonymous No.936116496 >>936116554 >>936117406 >>936117502 >>936117714 >>936119196 >>936119252 >>936120123 >>936120463 >>936123899 >>936126684 >>936129802 >>936131649 >>936135656 >>936135831 >>936135933 >>936138680 >>936147294 >>936149061 >>936154119 >>936157129 >>936158138
I voted for this
Anonymous No.936116541
Reality is more complex and has fundamental aspects that anyone can tune in to, eventually. The moon and Earth system is an artificial system. It could not possibly emerge from "random" chance.
You want a far deeper rabbit hole of truth. Study the language of DNA (ACGT) and its codon arrangements that lead to functional and specific biological proteins.
*The likelihood by pure statistics for DNA to "randomly" emerge in the universe and develop into complex biological lifeforms via functional proteins development...
Is less than 10^40,000.*
This is statistically smaller than the squared number of estimated protons, neutrons, and electrons in *estimated* history of the *observable* universe.
Bottom line. What designed biological life was by all means and definitions, a supreme super intelligence that was able to foresee a trillion squared outcomes and designed the language of DNA to become theoretically a nearly infinite number of lifeforms with specific functions and adaptations. So many outcomes that it makes the total estimated number of particles in the known universe (which is not the entire universe), look trivial. Omniscience.
The rabbit hole goes deeper when you then look at how human beings may have come into being, and the evidence that we were subsequently given accelerated evolution by shortening the lifespan with left hand twist DNA cancers and capping the telomeres at a specific length. If these intelligences or omni-intelligence wanted it could have designed humans to be biologically immortal via complex DNA codon and protein synthesis and algorithms. Humanity is an experiment.
And we are being watched at each stage of our development.
Creating and moving stars and planets and moons is trivial by comparison.
One of the few rational explanations for these observations, is that reality is some kind of simulated (created and designed ) realm in which one or some beings have a greater understanding of it. They want us to notice
Anonymous No.936116554
>>936116496 (OP)
That's right. Israel 1st, america 2nd.
Anonymous No.936117406
>>936116496 (OP)
Anonymous No.936117447 >>936117529 >>936127265 >>936127288 >>936131494 >>936131892 >>936133641
>I always wanted war
>a few missiles arent war
>its just a shithole country
>they have nuclear missile
Anonymous No.936117502 >>936117579 >>936119426 >>936119903 >>936120183
>>936116496 (OP)
trump just stopped the conflict because it was annoying.
Anonymous No.936117529 >>936119874
>>936117447
they don't have nuclear anything anymore.
Anonymous No.936117579
>>936117502
>stopped the conflict by escalating the conflict
lmao
Anonymous No.936117714 >>936130878 >>936132857
>>936116496 (OP)
i hoped for this. ENJOY THE WW3 DRAFT ZOOMERS >:3
Anonymous No.936119196
>>936116496 (OP)
Anonymous No.936119252 >>936119878 >>936123542 >>936154672
>>936116496 (OP)
Regret your vote? When are you getting drafted, goy boy?
Anonymous No.936119426 >>936119663
>>936117502
Iran will go about normal business now and we can all FINALLY move past this whole 'thing' int he Middle East

>have some shitty tits
Anonymous No.936119663
>>936119426
>deflecting
Nice try.
Have fun getting drafted, loser. Your family won't miss you when you're just a casualty.
Anonymous No.936119874 >>936119903
>>936117529
yes, since 2003.
permanently checked by IAEA since ever then which now will end.
a few weeks ago US intelligenceruled out the possibility of nuclear weapons.

here is you.
Anonymous No.936119878 >>936123291
>>936119252
Why would I regrat it?
Anonymous No.936119903
>>936117502
>>936119874
Anonymous No.936120123 >>936122100 >>936123542 >>936133918
>>936116496 (OP)
Imagine voting for Trump
>I never thought the leopards would eat MY face!!!
Pathetic
Anonymous No.936120183
>>936117502
It would take more than a few nuclear devices to "stop the conflict" my dear fucktard
Anonymous No.936120463 >>936123291
>>936116496 (OP)
lol the USA is cucked
Anonymous No.936122100 >>936123542 >>936133918
>>936120123
Trumptards are stupid rednecks, what did you expect from those inbred?
Anonymous No.936123291
>>936119878
>>936120463
Imagine being a paypig for Trump's war
Anonymous No.936123339 >>936123471 >>936123820 >>936134023
We support Israel.
Anonymous No.936123471
>>936123339
Based
Anonymous No.936123542 >>936133992 >>936135564 >>936154763
>>936119252
>>936120123
>>936122100
You honestly think given the circumstance that Harris wouldn't have gotten us into war? And then you have Hillary who was an outright warhawk. When are you dumb fucks going to understand that it isn't Trump, its the ridiculous amount of power the jews have in the US government. In 1960 people didn't want to vote for Kennedy because he was catholic and they believed he might be more loyal to the Pope than to the US. Now we have congressmen with Israeli dual citizenship and no one bats an eye. Don't loose focus as to ((who)) the true enemy really is
Anonymous No.936123820 >>936130965
>>936123339
no shit
Anonymous No.936123899 >>936123973 >>936127265
>>936116496 (OP)
What trump did was a simple punishment. Like when 2 children fight and won't stop. You step in and slap the aggressive kid. Tell him don't do it again.
Same thing.
No war.
Nobody is dumb enough to actually go to war with the USA. Any country would be annihilated by the NAVY ALONE!
Anonymous No.936123973 >>936124097
>>936123899
>No war.
I can't wait until the "we've always been at war with Iran" cope drops next.
Anonymous No.936124097 >>936124160 >>936127288
>>936123973
nothing ever comes from your tranny hand wringing and pearl clutching. 3.5 more years fucker.
Anonymous No.936124160
>>936124097
I'm tired of your regime changes funded by american taxpayers you filthy Israeli.
Anonymous No.936125339 >>936126608
USA bombed Iran, and they won't do shit about it. Sounds like a win.
Anonymous No.936126608 >>936130126
>>936125339
I seem to remember people saying that about Iraq
Anonymous No.936126684 >>936127173 >>936128172
>>936116496 (OP)
well well well
Anonymous No.936127162
LMAOOOOOOOO

Let’s say we killed the Ayatollah and his little replacements and in the Game of Chess ,we already got the moves thru Mossad


It will go like this ;

Bin Laden—check
Ghadaffi——check
Hussein—-check
Isil———Check
Assad——Check
Ayatollah—check


There are millions of Iranians that want to be friends with Israel,America and the Saudis.


Those that would benefit the most are the Iranians. In the land of the Aryan(Iran)
So what did you say ,filthy swastikanigger? You don’t want your own blood to be feeling better? Ya you’re sick in the head because your M.O is Iranian suffering will boost Israel hatred.


BUT FUCK YOU AND YOUR PAGAN MOTHER! We’ve wanted a regime change to make the Middle East GREAT

AND THERE IS NOTHING YOU BOOT LICKING NAZI PARASITES will do to stop that . leL


So it’s been decided a long time ago —REGIME CHANGE


The Ayatollah needs to prefer DYING than make a deal at this point . Then HE CAN DIE LEL
Anonymous No.936127173
>>936126684
so god damn proud of his personal acronym
Anonymous No.936127237
2025 has already had three US Presidents: Biden (what was left of him at least), Musk, and now Netanyahu.
Anonymous No.936127265
>>936123899
>>936117447
Anonymous No.936127288
>>936124097
>>936117447
Anonymous No.936128172
>>936126684
Thank god he purged the military of all those filthy left wing DEI troons.

Now just the pure christian patriots remain to spill their blood occupying iran for the next 15 years.
Anonymous No.936129802 >>936157552
>>936116496 (OP)
first you told us it was about eggs
egg prices go down, silence
you told us it was president elon
elon is ousted, sudden silence
now you think its president netyahu
tommorrow or next month the news will move on, but you will never ever accept you were wrong, just more sudden silence
Anonymous No.936130126 >>936130449
>>936126608
USA went to Iraq to do "regime change". That was retarded, just bomb the fuckers, and get the fuck out.
Anonymous No.936130449 >>936130493
>>936130126
I wonder who asked the US for regime change, for "regional stability" purposes.
Anonymous No.936130493 >>936130521 >>936130540
>>936130449
Saddam Hussein was asking for it
Anonymous No.936130521 >>936130612
>>936130493
Nope. It's the same one asking right now.
Anonymous No.936130540
>>936130493
https://www.c-span.org/clip/house-committee/user-clip-benjamin-netanyahu-projects-the-benefits-of-war-in-iraq-2002/4529789
Anonymous No.936130612 >>936130627 >>936130660
>>936130521
>Invade Kuwait
>Massacre his own people
>Refuse UN weapon inspection
He was asking for it himself.
Anonymous No.936130627
>>936130612
wrong
Anonymous No.936130660
>>936130612
The Gulf War and Operation Iraqi Freedom were two separate conflicts. One was supported under international law, one was not.
Anonymous No.936130878 >>936131045 >>936131339 >>936131417
>>936117714
A far bigger problem than the specter of WWIII is the much greater likelihood that Iran will now blockade the strait of Hormuz and oil cost in the US will skyrocket.

This is unfortunately timed, given that Trump also killed off most the US hydrogen industry last month, and the dollar's already on the decline.

He took steps to make sure he'd have no safety nets once he did this, it seems.
Anonymous No.936130960
Honestly I've got to give it to the man, he has an uncanny knack to aim his car perfectly straight at the wall before he floors it.
Anonymous No.936130965
>>936123820
Lmao
Anonymous No.936131045 >>936131249 >>936131568
>>936130878
the market will level it of course but china will suffer the most at first, since 90% of oil from iran goes to china atm.
Im sure they will love it.
Anonymous No.936131246 >>936131299
Trump said that voting for Kamala would end up causing a recession and World War III.

Sure as shit, I voted for Kamala and now we're starting World War III and the economy is in a complete recession.
Anonymous No.936131249 >>936131433
>>936131045
It's not Iranian exports that's the problem. It's UAE/Kuwaiti/Oman etc. exports. They have to pass through there. One of the pressure points Iran consistently uses is threats to block that strait and cut off America's main oil supply. Its already led to for example, shipping insurance rate premiums being bumped up 2x for ships in the region last week. Which is an expense you'll be paying as the consumer of course.

The market was alread adjusting to this but it could either escalate or not. I guess it probably will.

Now granted I don't see oil getting swapped out with hydrogen say logistics or manufacturing, when oil becomes the more expensive option, because Trump twisted the hydrogen industry's neck *also*, last month.
Anonymous No.936131299 >>936131374
>>936131246
Looks like Trump was right. Deal with it libtard.
Anonymous No.936131332
Anonymous No.936131339 >>936131429 >>936131494
>>936130878
The dollar ROSE 0.5% you fuckwit

THANK YOU PRESIDENT TRUMP
Anonymous No.936131374 >>936131390
>>936131299
Yeah, he was right that he will cause a world war and a depression
Anonymous No.936131390
>>936131374
Deal with it
Anonymous No.936131417 >>936131494 >>936131497 >>936131724
>>936130878
The cost of us oil won't skyrocket since we are 100% energy independent again under pres trump and our reserves are completely full
Anonymous No.936131429 >>936131510
>>936131339
It's down 10% since March dude.

This isn't a "buy the dip" situation, this is the fundamental multiplier for any form of dollar-based valuation.
Anonymous No.936131433
>>936131249
>I guess it probably will.
I see it the same way, to many countries involved or affected.
Anonymous No.936131494
>>936131339
>>936131417
>>936117447
Anonymous No.936131497 >>936131575 >>936131685
>>936131417
>energy independent
Energy independence has nothing to do with the price of oil. If a company could sell the oil for higher on the global market, why would they sell it for cheap domestically?
Anonymous No.936131510 >>936131658
>>936131429
>and the dollar's already on the decline.
Not anymore apparently. It seems that the economy reacts positively when a terrorist regimes nuclear weapons lab is destroyed for goof. Who knew?
Anonymous No.936131568 >>936131676
>>936131045
China's been cutting back on Iranian oil; they've already reduced their imports to less than 50% of what they were last year. The problem if the Straight of Hormuz is successfully cut off or disrupted is that it's not just Iranian oil but around 40% of the world oil trade that will be disrupted. And while that will hit China decently hard, it will also hit Europe, India, South Korea, and Japan hard as well. And unlike China many of those countries have been trying to distance themselves from Russian oil.
Anonymous No.936131575 >>936131607 >>936131658
>>936131497
You're implying that we will sell our oil to the rest of the world? In that case a price surge would be helpful
Anonymous No.936131607 >>936131755
>>936131575
I'm implying that companies will sell to the highest bidder. Has nothing to do with "energy independence". If global prices go up, prices inside the US will go up.
Anonymous No.936131649 >>936144838
>>936116496 (OP)
If only Drumpf had half the testosterone that Bibi has.
If this is true, we actually traded up.
Anonymous No.936131658 >>936131755
>>936131510
I have bad news for you my friend. Those gains already corrected in a 48 hour window.
Which should make sense, the value of the dollar doesn't coast on pulicity stunts. Well unless those publicity stunts dick with fiscal policy.

>>936131575
You already export oil. Now yes hiked up prices can be good if you're invested in oil. But if you're just a consumer, this means you're in a price competition.

Idk if you have oil based equity funds or something but I'm guessing you see a greater cashflow pass through your gas tank.
Anonymous No.936131676 >>936131744 >>936131772 >>936131892
>>936131568
Lol.. if Iran blocks the STRAIT*, pres trump will destroy the ships they use to blockade it. the bullies and terrorists of the world no longer have any power. full and complete compliance and returning to the negotiating table is the only path now that doesn't involve Iran getting blown to smithereens. Even their retard Supreme Leader if need be
Anonymous No.936131685 >>936131728
>>936131497
America is a net exporter of oil. We have energy independence. wtf did I just read?
Anonymous No.936131724 >>936131838
>>936131417
We were energy independent under BIDEN. We were net exporters under BIDEN.
Anonymous No.936131728 >>936131827
>>936131685
That energy independence means nothing. The US produces something like 13.5k barrels of oil a day. It still imports something like 7k barrels of oil a day.
Anonymous No.936131744 >>936132100
>>936131676
How's air traffic over Ukraine looking?

Sure America could shoot at a presumed launch site if Iran fires a missile at a freighter. Someone still needs to get insurance and then hoof a civilian load through the area though.
Anonymous No.936131755 >>936131767 >>936131836 >>936132109
>>936131607
>>936131658
Maybe I don't understand it very well but if we are 100% energy independent and have overflowing reserves, no oil is being "sent" through the Strait of Hormuz to the us.. we have all the oil we need here and are making our own in our own country.. the fuck does what's happening with oil over there have anything to do with what we're doing in our own county? We don't need nor care about the middle east oil
Anonymous No.936131767 >>936132036
>>936131755
>no oil is being "sent" through the Strait of Hormuz to the us
that's incorrect
Anonymous No.936131772
>>936131676
Wow. That’s a lot of far right American talking points. Do they pay you?
Anonymous No.936131827 >>936131913
>>936131728
It exports more than it uses. The fact is that the price is tied to futures. So it’s a question of perception driving prices. Yep. It’s a stock market driving the price of a product. Capitalism run amok
Anonymous No.936131836 >>936132036
>>936131755
There's 3 major US-bound oil exporters behind that strait.
Anonymous No.936131838 >>936131910 >>936131984
>>936131724
Not true at all under brandon he banned most oil production in the us it was actually his very first executive order to halt the production of oil and to deny all new and recurring oil permits, then the reserves were practically empty for 2 years
Anonymous No.936131892
>>936131676
>>936117447
Anonymous No.936131910
>>936131838
This is false. Google the numbers. Production was UP under Biden. They leased a lot more land than they used but that was by choice. Biden simply didn’t allow even more leases. And those leases are all about stopping the competition from getting the rights. It’s oil companies measuring dicks. The government hasn’t caused a shortage since the 80s
Anonymous No.936131913 >>936132076
>>936131827
Yes, but that doesn't mean the oil it produces is the same as the oil it mostly uses. There are different densities and sulfur contents that refineries are set up for, and it's not just a simple switch.
>So it’s a question of perception driving prices.
Yes, but also supply/demand dictating it as well.
Anonymous No.936131984 >>936132312
>>936131838
Why do you lie so much?
Anonymous No.936132036 >>936132072
>>936131767
Well hopefully Iran does close the strait and companies will stop buying oil internationally and start using our very cheap domestically sourced oil
>>936131836
Please answer my question, how does blocking the strait have any effect on prices in a country who is 100% completely independent in its energy and who is importing a miniscule amount from overseas. Not trying to be a smart ass just genuinely curious. If we aren't importing oil from overseas and are using our own as we should be.. who cares what the fuck goes on next to iran
Anonymous No.936132072 >>936132410
>>936132036
>companies will stop buying oil internationally and start using our very cheap domestically sourced oil
It's not that simple to change which type of crude you process, and domestic oil will be sold to a higher bidder determined by the global market.
Anonymous No.936132076 >>936132095
>>936131913
The oil refineries can be modified if needed. You can even make petrol out of plastic. Though ironically the sulfur content tends to be higher because of the impurities which get into the product due to the process. Anyway you can also make diesel out of coal if you have to.

I know someone in the industry.
Anonymous No.936132095 >>936132241
>>936132076
>The oil refineries can be modified if needed
Yes, but it's not as simple or as cheep as you think it is.
Anonymous No.936132100 >>936132307
>>936131744
>How's air traffic over Ukraine looking?
Russia has nukes, Iran does not. Thank you for playing
Anonymous No.936132109
>>936131755
We export oil but also have to import it. Partially because the kind of oil we produce is not the kind we need and partially because we are part of a global market and American producers will sell to other countries if they are willing to pay more.
>https://www.politico.com/newsletters/power-switch/2024/04/29/energy-independence-is-a-myth-candidates-dont-care-00154959
I did have trouble finding current percentages, but it looks right now that we're getting similar amounts of oil from the Persian Gulf as from Mexico, which another contemporary source said was around 7% of American imports. So it wouldn't be an apocalyptic loss but it would have some effect even before the turmoil in the global markets.
Anonymous No.936132241 >>936132347
>>936132095
Well since it’s a multi billion dollar corporate welfare queen I think they can afford the 1 out of 14 billion a year they rake in.
Also vehicles are becoming more efficient. So you could trade your truck in for a Prius
Anonymous No.936132307 >>936132591 >>936132639
>>936132100
If they don’t have the fissionable material why are we bombing them? If they might have it then it’s simply a question of delivery. We may see the first “suitcase” nuke smuggled into the us in a truck or whatever.
Anonymous No.936132312 >>936132371 >>936132501 >>936134082
>>936131984
Thank you for playing
Anonymous No.936132347 >>936133551
>>936132241
>companies don't need that much profit anymore
>you don't need a a truck anymore
lol, lmao
Anonymous No.936132371
>>936132312
who was president in 2020?
Anonymous No.936132410 >>936132455 >>936132663
>>936132072
Domestic oil will be sold to companies in the US because there are tax incentives to do so. And since we're already exporting more than we use, i see no problem.
Anonymous No.936132455
>>936132410
>because there are tax incentives to do so
not really.
>And since we're already exporting more than we use
once again, it's likely not the right type for refineries.
Domestic oil will be sold to the highest bidder.
Anonymous No.936132501 >>936135038
>>936132312
Anonymous No.936132591 >>936132674
>>936132307
It doesn't benefit a country to detonate a nuke in another country even if they somehow keep it from being tied back to them. As soon as a mushroom cloud goes up over any world city there will be mass panic: evacuations, looting, every nuclear armed country going on alert against every potential adversary, etc.

No country country including Iran is going to engage in a nuclear first strike unless they give a literally crazy person absolute control or their regime is under existential threat. MAD is a shield, not a sword.
Anonymous No.936132639 >>936132661 >>936132897
>>936132307
Russia has verifiable nukes and has threatened to use them. Iran on the other hand was merely producing enriched uranium. For energy use, uranium only needs to be enriched to no more than 5%. But Iran's uranium was...90% enriched which you would ONLY EVER need for weapons, that's why we bombed them and why we were right to if they were truly only using their uranium for civilian energy then they wouldn't need to enrich it more than 5%, 7% at the maximum.
Anonymous No.936132661 >>936132790
>>936132639
>But Iran's uranium was...90% enriched
no it wasn't
Anonymous No.936132663
>>936132410
The problem is that our export numbers are irrelevant when we still have to import large amounts to meet our needs (for reasons myself and others have already spelled out). The United States is not energy independent, and any politician from either party that claims otherwise is lying.
Anonymous No.936132674 >>936133481
>>936132591
> unless they give a literally crazy person absolute control
So a religious extremist perhaps?
Anonymous No.936132790 >>936132818
>>936132661
Yes it was.. Unless you think the iaea and all of the western countries who said so are wrong
Anonymous No.936132818 >>936133002
>>936132790
Point to a single time the IAEA said it was 90% enriched.
Anonymous No.936132857
>>936117714
no need. we have enough trump volunteers. step right up, make your mark, and help make israel great again. plenty of cannon fodder for the grinder.
Anonymous No.936132897
>>936132639
I'm sure much of the Iranian leadership would really like nukes. On which, this might have backfired becauses Medevedev raised the option of just selling Iran nukes.
Anonymous No.936133002 >>936133030
>>936132818
Last year, actually. They released multiple reports that said starting I'm 2021 Iran started enriching uranium at 60% and then in 2024 were enriching it at 85%. None of that has a civilian or energy purposes AT ALL
Anonymous No.936133030 >>936133065 >>936133374
>>936133002
I can't seem to find them, do you have a link?
Anonymous No.936133065 >>936133435
>>936133030
specifically to where they claimed it was "90% enriched". Or do you have a western leader saying it was 90% enriched?
Anonymous No.936133374 >>936133429
>>936133030
https://www.iaea.org /sites/default/files/documents/govinf2021-28.pdf (pdf)
https://www.armscontrol.org/act/2024-02/news/iran-accelerates-highly-enriched-uranium-production
https://apnews.com/article/iran-nuclear-iaea-weapons-grade-uranium-trump-0b11a99a7364f9a43e1c83b220114d45

So ya.. I guess not technical 90% if you want to be pedantic about it. But again, there is no reason at all uranium for civilian energy should be anywhere above 3-7%
Anonymous No.936133429
>>936133374
>So ya.. I guess not technical 90% if you want to be pedantic about it.
I do want to be. Especially when I pointed out it wasn't 90%, you said "Unless you think the iaea and all of the western countries who said so are wrong"
Anonymous No.936133435 >>936133473 >>936133543 >>936133641
>>936133065
So you're just a pedantic asshole. Gotcha. Tell me, whats the meaningful difference between 84% and 90% enriched uranium and why one would need it for "Civilian energy"?
Anonymous No.936133473 >>936133561
>>936133435
Yes, because no place has said it was over 60%
Anonymous No.936133481 >>936133632
>>936132674
The leadership of Iran are assholes, not crazy. Not THAT crazy at least. They wouldn't even start a direct war with the militarily superior Israel, so why would they start a nuclear conflict with a country that has decades-more-advanced systems and the support of at least three other nuclear powers?

Iran talks shit about Israel and the US but they were never going to launch an unprovoked nuclear attack. That claim goes against basic logic, their own history, and world history. If the US and USSR never launched an exchange in the Cold War, India and Pakistan have gone decades without using their nuclear arsenals, and even Kim Jong-Un knows to keep his hand off the button, then their is no justification to say that Iran was really a threat. World leaders no nukes are only to be used when you're going to be destroyed either way.

Now, if the US does try to go through with regime change in Iran, that would change things.
Anonymous No.936133543 >>936133606 >>936133637
>>936133435
God damn this is the most jewish shit I've seen lately.
>They have 90% enriched uranium
>Well it's really 85% enriched uranium
>Why do they need 84% enriched uranium
Anonymous No.936133551
>>936132347
You never needed the truck. Be honest.
Anonymous No.936133561 >>936134046
>>936133473
Don't read the report from the iaea then that said it wss 84% to "near-weapons grade levels". I you are happy being ignorant and stupud I really couldn't care less
Anonymous No.936133606 >>936134074
>>936133543
Please answer my question or concede the argument
Anonymous No.936133632 >>936133815
>>936133481
Nuclear armed states are more likely to start war with non-nuclear states, because they view their nuclear stockpile as deterrent from third parties, for example Russia-Ukraine. Even against nuclear armed states they will be more likely to try "gray tactic" harassment, China style. With Iran's record of supporting terrorist it's obvious they will ramp that up. Add to that the small chance of some Ayatollah trying to bring the apocalypse for religiously delusional reasons and it's a no-brainer that the bombing is worth it.
Anonymous No.936133637 >>936134582
>>936133543
It's all irrelevant anyways. Neither the United States or Israel has the right to stop another country from developing the weapons they themselves have. Especially after Trump ripped up the 2015 agreement and sanctioned Iran for daring to uphold their promise to pursue nuclear nonproliferation. Every death that's happened in this conflict is directly on Trump.
Anonymous No.936133641
>>936133435
>>936117447
Anonymous No.936133815 >>936133926
>>936133632
>Nuclear armed states are more likely to start war with non-nuclear states
Yes, like how Israel and the United States started a war with Iran, retroactively increasing the justification for Iran developing nuclear weapons. Meanwhile, BY YOUR OWN ARGUMENT, Iran was actually unlikely to start a war with the US or Israel because they are nuclear powers. As for the Ayatollah I have already explained the historical reasons why it is not logical to start a nuclear war. You and Khamenei both can stick to your ideological arguments; I'll stick to facts.
Anonymous No.936133918
>>936122100
>>936120123
literally won by appealing to the stupid and uneducated- which kind of makes it apparent that maybe not all americans should be allowed to vote
Anonymous No.936133926 >>936134195
>>936133815
They don't start a direct conflict, but they start proxy conflicts (like Hamas, Hezbollah, Houthis, etc) , gray tactic harassment (like missile strikes), and direct war with non-nuclear allies. A nuclear armed Iran could close the Strait of Hormuz if they wanted to.
Anonymous No.936133992 >>936134138
>>936123542
>muh wataboutism

is that all you guys ever do? Is it because you have no actual knowledge and can't actually discuss? All you're able to do is hop from topic to topic and inevitably start whining about biden?

Newsflash buddy, Trump is your president
Anonymous No.936134023
>>936123339
why
Anonymous No.936134046
>>936133561
point to where that is
Anonymous No.936134074 >>936134691
>>936133606
I don't give a fuck about 60%. Their purpose of having that means nothing. Stop misrepresenting what they have.
Anonymous No.936134082
>>936132312
Oh no, he doesn't know how to read graphs lol. As a data analyst myself, I really wish you could say this shit in one of our meetings lol. Youd be fucking laughed at so hard you wouldn't want to talk for the rest of the day.
Anonymous No.936134138 >>936134168 >>936134192 >>936134377
>>936133992
Exactly. This is why he won't let Iran get to 81% enriched uranium.
We stopped them cold at 78%
Anonymous No.936134168 >>936134324
>>936134138
>We
what did you do?
Anonymous No.936134192
>>936134138
>now it's 78%
Anonymous No.936134195 >>936134302
>>936133926
>They don't start a direct conflict, but they start proxy conflicts (like Hamas, Hezbollah, Houthis, etc) , gray tactic harassment (like missile strikes)
Yes, because they know that they cannot win a war against Israel and the US and they definitely know they can't win a nuclear conflict. That's my entire point. If Iran was to use a nuke either directly or by giving it to a terrorist group, the best case scenario is that most of the international community would wipe their regime off the map through a conventional war and the worse is nuclear annihilation. Their entire history of proxy-conflicts proves that they were never going to be a nuclear threat unless backed into a corner. The brutality of the Revolutionary Guard or the delusions of the Ayatollah, while true, do not change what we have seen with our own eyes. Everything else is military-industrial propaganda and Orwellian fear-mongering by failing right wing regimes in Washington DC and Jerusalem.
Anonymous No.936134302 >>936134783
>>936134195
A nuclear armed Iran is more likely to engage in proxy conflicts in Israel, in direct conflicts against non-nuclear states in the region and in harassment short of a direct war. All those are already bad enough that they justify denying them the bomb.
Anonymous No.936134324 >>936134672
>>936134168
I voted for Trump when I heard Kenya Obama was letting Iran enrich uranium again as long as they pinky promised not to use it in nuclear.
You probably voted for crooked Hillary that year. Libs do dumb shit like that.
Anonymous No.936134377
>>936134138
>936117447
IAEA knows best, had access and excluded any weapon use.
same as the fucking US surveillance said two weeks ago.

you would sell your mother if it would help trumps agenda.
Anonymous No.936134582 >>936135068
>>936133637
The us definitely does have the right to stop terrorists from building and using nukes. Especially if they have the support of 90% of the world who agree they should not have them. Much better to back out from a shitty useless agreement that Iran was clearly not following and that did nothing to penalize them for doing so and reapply sanctions that actually work for things like stopping them from developing an ICBM and forcing Iran to agree to a much stricter agreement (permanent restrictions on only being able to enrich to 3.2%, inspections at any time for any reason)
Anonymous No.936134672
>>936134324
so you didn't do anything.
Anonymous No.936134691 >>936134817 >>936134925
>>936134074
It does mean something because the only reason to have anything over 5-7% is to make weapons
Anonymous No.936134783 >>936134841 >>936134847
>>936134302
And a non-nuclear Iran is more likely to be the victim of imperialist aggression. Iran had already agreed to engage in nuclear non-proliferation once and Trump refused to honor it and sanctioned them. If they are going to be punished for following the rules then they are not going to continue to deny themselves the weapons they can use to defend themselves.

You could use that same justification to use force to deny nuclear weapons to the US or Israel based on their human rights violations. Or on the threats they've made to other countries. Trump threatened to nuke North Korea in his first term but another nation did not take out our silos in Montana or our bombers in North Dakota.

At the end of the day their are no good guys here. Trump isn't a good guy, Netanyahu isn't a good guy, Khamenei isn't a good guy. And in the absence of good guys, the best we can do is uphold the rules of the world order and a sense of fair play.

And just to take a point for record keeping, the goalposts have now been completely moved from my initial point.
Anonymous No.936134817 >>936134871
>>936134691
It means nothing. I don't give a fuck. They were at 60% and you cannot prove otherwise.
Anonymous No.936134841 >>936135186
>>936134783
They are not victims of imperialist aggression. That is the Ayatollah's lie.
Anonymous No.936134847 >>936134929 >>936135186
>>936134783
>Iran had already agreed to engage in nuclear non-proliferation once
And then they broke that agreement
>and Trump refused to honor it and sanctioned them
Because they broke that agreement
Anonymous No.936134871 >>936134899
>>936134817
OK terrorist
Anonymous No.936134899
>>936134871
okay JIDF
Anonymous No.936134925 >>936135093
>>936134691
Wrong. Enriched uranium means you can go longer without disposing of the rods and flushing the chambers at your power plant. More power, and less accidents when swaps are less frequent.
Iran surely wanted weapons grade, but they were no where even close to it. Stuxnet set their whole enrichment program back a decade when Israel deployed it against their centrifuges.
Anonymous No.936134929
>>936134847
>And then they broke that agreement
NTA, but the US broke that agreement because Israel told Trump to
Anonymous No.936135038
>>936132501
no comment on this i guess lol
Anonymous No.936135068
>>936134582
The United States is the only country to use nuclear weapons against humans, the United States is only one of three countries that we know have at multiple times been ready to use nuclear weapons, the United States has fought multiple illegal wars, overthrown democratically elected leaders, backed mass-murdering dictators, and trained terrorist groups in Latin America and the Middle East. Either both the US and Iran can be trusted to have nuclear weapons or neither can.

And once again, Iran had already agreed to avoid nuclear proliferation and Trump broke the deal. No amount of spouting far right propaganda will change what is proven fact. Trump is responsible for everything that is happening right now.
Anonymous No.936135093 >>936135122
>>936134925
They were at 83-84% and the IAEA said they were "accelerating its production of uranium enriched to near-weapons grade levels." It's true that they were very low for many years. But then relatively quickly they started heavyily enriching. Went from roughly 4% to 12%, then 30% then 60% then trace amounts of 83-84% all within three or four years
Anonymous No.936135122 >>936135149
>>936135093
>They were at 83-84%
This poster has a gigantic nose
Anonymous No.936135149 >>936135168
>>936135122
and this poster is a pot calling the kettle black
Anonymous No.936135168
>>936135149
I'm anglo, unlike you
Anonymous No.936135186 >>936135216 >>936135239
>>936134841
When the US sanctioned them and put their people through economic pain for following the law, that was a clear act of aggression by a more powerful nation against a less powerful nation. And of course there's the fact that the US backed the previous dictator of Iran, the Shah, and directly intervened to suppress Iranian democracy. What the Ayatollah says is irrelevant; these are historically documented facts.

>>936134847
Factually wrong.
Anonymous No.936135216 >>936135305 >>936139870
>>936135186
They sanctioned them for taking hundreds of diplomats hostages. Following the law my ass.
Anonymous No.936135235
I'm starting to get the feeling that the hebrews are just making up these %%% numbers. They're all over the place.
Anonymous No.936135239 >>936139870
>>936135186
>Factually wrong.
Proof?
Anonymous No.936135305 >>936135352 >>936135360
>>936135216
>They sanctioned them for taking hundreds of diplomats hostages.
They sanctioned them for "being weeks away from a nuclear weapon"
Anonymous No.936135352 >>936135385 >>936135532
>>936135305
Good thing they did. No nukes for a rogue state.
Anonymous No.936135360 >>936135408
>>936135305
how many weeks away?
was it two?
Anonymous No.936135385 >>936135463
>>936135352
Well golly gee, looks like it's been over 7 years, and still no nuclear weapons.
Anonymous No.936135408
>>936135360
over 6,000,000 weeks away.
Anonymous No.936135463 >>936135552 >>936135599
>>936135385
They've tried using it as a bargaining chip for years. Once they thought they couldn't extract more concessions they started the program again.
Anonymous No.936135532
>>936135352
Based
Anonymous No.936135552
>>936135463
They started higher enrichment after Israel talked Trump into pulling out of the JCPOA. I'm sure they used a mixture of telling trump that it was a horrible deal and he's the best deal maker ever.
Anonymous No.936135564 >>936135792 >>936156887
>>936123542
You are smoking serious opium if you think Kamala wouldn't have handled this situation better, and in fact wouldn't have been a much better president in general.

Make no mistake, if you voted for Trump is IS time to suck start a shotgun
Anonymous No.936135599
>>936135463
Exactly this.. they were actually following the agreement until they realized there was no way US was going to give them some slack. Then they started vigorously enriching
Anonymous No.936135656
>>936116496 (OP)
Cope kek
Anonymous No.936135792 >>936144175
>>936135564
Why didn't they have a primary then if she was such a shoe in?
Anonymous No.936135831
>>936116496 (OP)
MAGA is cheering for this
Anonymous No.936135933
>>936116496 (OP)
Anonymous No.936136218 >>936157132
Pray to God and repent right now in Jesus name. This life isn't it. This life is your test and this is your wake up call. Nobody can hide from the wrath of God almighty.
WW3 WILL happen. The elite are intentionally creating chaos to bring out the new world order, and regulate Satan and the mark of the beast.
Pray to God that you will be at the wedding feast of the lamb.
Rebuke all evil and praise the most high before it's too late.
More likely than not, we will all be dead within the next 10 years.
Is time to get right with the creator and repent.
There will be no more peace. This earth is falling apart and will ultimately be destroyed by God.
God is all loving.
Please reach out to God, repent, and cry to Jesus.
We are almost out of time.
God bless anyone that reads this.
Time is almost up.
This is your last chance.
Anonymous No.936138680
>>936116496 (OP)
at least 3.5 more years of isreali cucking
Anonymous No.936139870 >>936142456
>>936135216
We're not talking about the response to the Iranian Revolution, we're talking about the response to the JCPOA that lead Iran to start developing nuclear weapons again after they had already agreed to stop.

>>936135239
>https://web.archive.org/web/20180509075735/https://www.iaea.org/newscenter/statements/iaea-director-generals-introductory-remarks-at-press-conference
The IAEA proved with extensive evidence that Iran was in compliance with the JCPOA. Trump broke the agreement anyway and punished Iran for doing the right thing. Trump pushed Iran closer to nuclear weapons by showing that powerful countries were going to make Iranian lives worse whether or not they defended themselves. Trump, and Netanyahu who has been the real president all along here, are responsible for Iran nearing completion of a nuclear weapon and all the deaths that have occurred and will occur to "stop them". They are international criminals and mass murderers; Iran's own crimes do not wash out the crimes of its rivals.
Anonymous No.936142456 >>936142640
>>936139870
Lol.. how could the iaea know if they were following the agreement if they were banned from going there to inspect it
Anonymous No.936142640 >>936142653
>>936142456
>As I have said many times, I believe the JCPOA represents a significant gain for verification. The IAEA now has the world’s most robust verification regime in place in Iran. We have had access to all the locations that we needed to visit.
>Our inspection work has doubled since 2013. IAEA inspectors now spend 3,000 calendar days per year on the ground in Iran. We have installed some 2,000 tamper-proof seals on nuclear material and equipment.
>We have carried out more than 60 complementary accesses and visited more than 190 buildings since JCPOA Implementation Day.
>We collect and analyse hundreds of thousands of images captured daily by our sophisticated surveillance cameras in Iran – about half of the total number of such images that we collect throughout the world.
>We collect over one million pieces of open source information each month.
All of our activities are supported by state-of-the-art technology, including data collecting and processing systems. Our current verification capability is much stronger than it has ever been.
>As of today, I can state that Iran is implementing its nuclear-related commitments.

>14 March 2018

I will never understand how people can lie when contradictory evidence is publicly available. Forget respecting others; you can't even respect yourself.
Anonymous No.936142653 >>936142683
>>936142640
tl;dr bot
Anonymous No.936142683 >>936144105 >>936144749
>>936142653
I can't help you if you won't accept facts. I've met the burden of proof I was asked for. Have more respect for yourself.
Anonymous No.936144105 >>936144749
>>936142683
You can't reason with stupid. He's an inbred pigfucker son of a bitch Mississippian trash.
Anonymous No.936144175 >>936156887
>>936135792
There was no time, and they underestimated just how retarded as fuck Americans are
Anonymous No.936144749
>>936142683
>>936144105
Samefag
Anonymous No.936144838 >>936144992 >>936148275
>>936131649
they show all of the same letter when you guess one correctly. the left cant meme
Anonymous No.936144992
>>936144838
Neither W, P, or L were already on the board in the first image. What a dumb hill to die on.
Anonymous No.936147294
>>936116496 (OP)
me too - no regrets, no refunds
Anonymous No.936148275
>>936144838
i'm the first person here that posted it, but i didn't vote for it
Anonymous No.936149061 >>936149907 >>936152205 >>936154917
>>936116496 (OP)
*voting
Lmfaooooo. Let me find out you think wrestling is real too. Fuck. Did you eat paint chip cereal as a kid?
Anonymous No.936149907
>>936149061
This
Anonymous No.936152205
>>936149061
wrestling is real you fucking retard
Anonymous No.936154119 >>936154456
>>936116496 (OP)
The boot licking pussy you voted for.
Anonymous No.936154456 >>936154869
>>936154119
Yet he didn't bomb Iran for Israel.
Anonymous No.936154672
>>936119252
> It's not Trump!
> It is Harris!
> No wait it's Hillary!
> No wait it's Da jOoS!

> It definitely isn't Trump
> But if a Dem was in the white house, then it would have been Dem's fault!!

One would be better off arguing with pigeons, they have better logic.
Anonymous No.936154763
>>936123542
> It's not Trump!
> It is Harris!
> No wait it's Hillary!
> No wait it's Da jOoS!

> It definitely isn't Trump
> But if a Dem was in the white house, then it would have been Dem's fault!!

One would be better off arguing with pigeons, they have better logic.
Anonymous No.936154869 >>936154931
>>936154456
....uhm anon, I dont know how to break this to you..
One hand washes the other.
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/how-biden-pushed-israel-calibrate-its-strikes-iran-2024-10-27/
Anonymous No.936154917 >>936156773
>>936149061
>paint chips as a kid
Nigger not everyone is a gen x faggot born in the 70s
Anonymous No.936154931 >>936155054 >>936155437
>>936154869
Once again, he didn't bomb Iran for Israel.
Anonymous No.936155054 >>936155112
>>936154931
Same difference, no reason to pretend biden wasnt a war monger just like the rest. Whats all your crying about it getting done though?
Anonymous No.936155112 >>936155203
>>936155054
>Same difference
Not really anon. Joe Biden didn't commit US troops to bomb Iran on Israel's behalf. Let me make this clear, I don't give a fuck about Biden, however I do find it funny that trumpschmucks are running around trying to act like Biden somehow did more for Israel to try and minimize how much jewish cum chugging trump does.
Anonymous No.936155203 >>936155243
>>936155112
We've been bombing Iran for a long time anon, this isnt new or different, its the same shit as it was with the president before trump and the one befoee him and before him and so on. Its the same difference, Biden gave them 17.5 billion in a 6 month period to fight hamas....hes no different and trumps np worse. Time to grow up zoomie....link related. Its a song from 1995 about when we bombed iran during a hostage situation...we have histically been bombing iran for israel all your life.

https://youtu.be/r64GxYmFS1M?si=8n7VsghM3GQ8c-Lj
Anonymous No.936155243 >>936155360
>>936155203
>We've been bombing Iran for a long time anon
before this, when was the last time the US directly bombed Iran?
Anonymous No.936155360 >>936155418
>>936155243
Looks like december of 2019, you just have to google shit anon, heres a link.

https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2025/06/world/us-iran-conflict-timeline-dg/
Anonymous No.936155418 >>936155486
>>936155360
>december of 2019
looks like you're wrong
Anonymous No.936155437 >>936155458 >>936155486
>>936154931
He did in 2024, both iran and syria in retaliation to irans attack on israel

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna137089
Anonymous No.936155458 >>936155502
>>936155437
>With U.S. strikes in Iraq and Syria
Anonymous No.936155486 >>936155586
>>936155418
Wrong about what? Biden or that we have historically bombed iran? Also refer to >>936155437
Biden bombed them directly in 2024.
Anonymous No.936155502 >>936155586
>>936155458
Under president biden, yes.
Anonymous No.936155586 >>936155820
>>936155486
>>936155502
in Iraq and Syria, on proxies. Now, once again when did the US bomb Iran directly before 2025?
Anonymous No.936155820 >>936155900 >>936155930 >>936156082 >>936156190
>>936155586
Before 2025, theres a whole list of times in that link, not sure what youre trying to defend, this isnt new and since when do proxy wars bother you, the ukraines a proxy war. Just go ahead and read up about how we have been bombing iran and yes iraq, syria, afghanistan you know the whole fucking middle east for decades and deal with the fact that biden was a.warmonger just like trump. Why do you fear trump sp badly that you are trying to prop up biden on a pedestal?

https://www.brookings.edu/articles/lessons-from-americas-first-war-with-iran/


https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2025/06/world/us-iran-conflict-timeline-dg/
Anonymous No.936155900 >>936156016
>>936155820
There was no mention of the US bombing Iran directly.
>since when do proxy wars bother you
They don't, but they have nothing to do with the question I asked you.
Anonymous No.936155930 >>936156072
>>936155820
>Why do you fear trump sp badly that you are trying to prop up biden on a pedestal?
I'm not propping BIden up, I'm pointing out that your deflection on Trump's huge escalation is no where near as serious as any president that came before him.
Anonymous No.936156016 >>936156051
>>936155900
Theres several memtions.of it, in fact we bombed them several times during our occupation of the middle east, or did you forget that we spent all of the 2000s pissing into the desert over there? Just read up on it or dont, I dont really care, the best part of this is that you faggots claim false putrage and scream "WW3" every conflict we get into and its just tedious.
Anonymous No.936156051 >>936156082
>>936156016
>in fact we bombed them several times during our occupation of the middle east
Oh well then it should be simple for you to provide evidence of one of those times the US directly bombed Iran.
Anonymous No.936156072 >>936156115
>>936155930
Its not that huge of an escalation, Trumps the one that spit in their face and dropped the nuclear deal to begin with. This is just another drop in the bucket, sorry youre like 14 and havnt witnessed every president since Reagan just bombing the fuck out of these fools. Keep your bullshit outrage, its worthless
Anonymous No.936156082 >>936156101
>>936156051
I did, go read up in the limks provided, or dont, im not your baby sitter. >>936155820
Anonymous No.936156101 >>936156129
>>936156082
Yeah, there's nothing on there. So either it's not there or I missed it. Could you point to it by picture or giving me the text to search for?
Anonymous No.936156115 >>936156160
>>936156072
>Its not that huge of an escalation
It is a very huge escalation that Trump did because Israel told him to. Israel has been trying to get the US to do it for a while and no other president would.
Anonymous No.936156129 >>936156163
>>936156101
You can lead a zoomer to text but you cant make them read.
Anonymous No.936156160 >>936156207
>>936156115
>its big because of my feelings!!!
No, youre a panicky little faggot who needs to get better material than "orange man bad". Just another nothingburger.
Anonymous No.936156163 >>936156190 >>936156216
>>936156129
Provide one single example anon. It's not that hard, as you said yourself "we bombed them several times"
Anonymous No.936156190 >>936156223
>>936156163
I gave you 2 links that describe several situations youre asking for all you have to do is read. Refer to >>936155820
Anonymous No.936156207
>>936156160
go home JIDF you're drunk.
Anonymous No.936156216 >>936156238
>>936156163
>you have to spoonfeed it to me otherwise i wont believe you!
Oh well?
Anonymous No.936156223
>>936156190
Not a single mention of the US bombing Iran in either article.
Anonymous No.936156238
>>936156216
>I'll just keep posting articles that don't say what I claim they say and when you point it out I'll just claim you want it spoonfed
Anonymous No.936156773
>>936154917
But you are still retarded. And mad. Lol. Typical zoomer faggot. Your 2 dyke moms failed u
Anonymous No.936156887 >>936156928
>>936144175
>>936135564
Kamala is a meat puppet with zero brains and would have bombed Iran too. She was an avowed pro-Israel candidate which is why the DNC dispensed with primaries and selected her.

The "party of democracy" didn't seem to believe in it when the chips were down. Hmm!
Anonymous No.936156928
>>936156887
>b-b-but kamala would have done it too!
>ignore that trump actually did it
do you jews just ever stop?
Anonymous No.936157129 >>936157346
>>936116496 (OP)
But, did you vote for this?
Anonymous No.936157132
>>936136218
take your meds
Anonymous No.936157346
>>936157129
Has he finally fallen off his rocker?
Anonymous No.936157552 >>936158198 >>936161045
>>936129802
You forgot Putin,but then who could forget Putin right Comrade
Anonymous No.936158138
>>936116496 (OP)
Sad!
Anonymous No.936158198
>>936157552
>who could forget Putin
Well, not Iran or North Korea or any of Russia's citizens (or else)
Anonymous No.936161045
>>936157552
i really mean this, not a jab at you or anything.