My sister and dad want me to go to college because I'm stuck doing delivery work and making hardly any fucking money at all.

What should a 33 year old white guy even study?

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>>936223760 (OP)
>What should a 33 year old white guy even study?
What would you like to be doing instead of delivery work? Base your answer on that.

>>936224907
I want to get into nursing, but I’ve also thought about radiologic technology. I was a caregiver for my elderly mother for three years, so I know what real care looks like—hands-on, gritty, necessary. Nursing feels like a path with heart and purpose, but radiology’s got that tech edge, steady hours, and solid pay. Either way, I’m done spinning wheels in delivery—I want a career that builds something real. Maybe get my LPN to start off and go from there. Unless that's a retarded idea and just go for my RN.

>>936223760 (OP)
law or medicine
anything else is a coin flip or worse

>>936225019
Law or medicine? Man, fuck that shit. Ain’t about some fancy-ass degrees just to drown in debt or grind for a decade with no guarantees. I'm 33. Not 18. Not 22. Not even 25. Thirty fucking three.

>>936224907
>What would you like to be doing
Fuck this faggot, men are providers they have to do what they can do until they develop skills. Get something high paying and in demand, an electrician on machine tech maybe.
>>936224987
Nevermind, OP sounds like a faggot, too.
>>936225064
Then get a certificate, start applying for apprenticeships while you're in school (community college, not ass rapey university). Is there a chapter of IBEW around you? They'll take you today.

>>936225429
>Nevermind, OP sounds like a faggot, too.
How do I sound like a faggot, you jackass?

>>936225429
>Then get a certificate, start applying for apprenticeships while you're in school (community college, not ass rapey university). Is there a chapter of IBEW around you? They'll take you today.
Lmfao
>hurr go to the IBEW where it's full of rednecks and white trash and full of nepotism.
Fuck unions. And fuck white trash work. I'm not white trash.

>>936225457
>Acting like white trash
You asked "what should a 33 year old white guy even study."
You laugh at blue collar work.
You make fun of Unions because you don't know much about them.

>>936225457
For the record, your reply made it clear you are a massive asshole, who doesn't know much, asks for help, and then criticizes the help he gets. Chances are no one even wants to hire someone like you.

>>936225595
Nigger, you know how many fucking unions I've been in that didn't do jack shit for me?

Teamsters.

NALC.

UFCW.

So shove that union shit up your fucking ass, boy. I didn't ask for advice on fucking low brow ass grunt slave nigger work. I'm a white man, an intelligent fucking white man. I'm not some spic, I'm not some puerto rican, I'm not some fucking nigger, I'm not doing that bullshit ass work.

Maybe you can go fucking do it if you want to glamorize being some white trash faggot so much.

>>936224987
I think all of those sound like great ideas, especially if you think you would enjoy them. I think your sister and dad are right, and you know they are. Your age is not too late to start a new career. Not by a long shot.

>>936225636
>who doesn't know much
Okay redneck.

>>936225636
Also, I literally just worked for the United States Postal Service. What was your last job? Working at a fucking Home Depot? Eat my dick with a spoon, bitch.

>>936225659
Of course my sister is right, she's been doing CNA work for 20 years. I don't really take the advice of my father though because he's not established at all. He's pretty much a bum, has no house, lives off the system now, all of that sort of entitlement shit.

>>936223760 (OP)
Plumbing, gas or electrics.

>>936223760 (OP)
If it doesn't have "engineer" in the title, you won't make a dime from it.
I studied pure science and am unemployable, despite my grades, because pure science is useless in the real world unless you are good at grifting off the government.

>>936225750
Alright, I'll humor you. Why? Why should I, a 33 year old intellectually gifted white man, even entertain doing either of the three things that you just mentioned there? Incentivize it for me. Or else I'm not even considering it at all.

>>936225756
>I studied pure science and am unemployable, despite my grades, because pure science is useless in the real world unless you are good at grifting off the government.
That's your fault and your fault alone, you dipshit.

>hurr muh stem omg i'm gonna be steve jobs
No you're going to be sleeping in a Days Inn next to Methany.

>>936225457
>How do I sound like a faggot, you jackass?
nursing

>>936226002
Oh, so you're just retarded. Do you know anything about nursing, you undereducated cretin? Or how much male nurses make? And the amount of pussy that they get?

>>936225707
>federal worker laid off by Trump
So, you're a useless eater that now has to make your own way in life?

>>936226074
I don't speak to the unemployed or any fucking NEETS. Go kill yourself.

>>936225776
because you're a "33 year old intellectually gifted white man" doing delivery, a boys job.

>>936226017
I bet you make tons of money now as a delivery boy.

>>936226156
I'm not white trash, I'm not doing white trash work. I'd rather use my intellect to make myself successful instead of doing what every single redneck did for the last 50 years which is avoid higher education entirely to do the work of niggers and spics.

>>936226181
What's it like living with your mom and dad? I wouldn't know, I've got a 6 bedroom house with a nice big inground pool.

>>936226200
>I've got a 6 bedroom house with a nice big inground pool.
awesome, too bad you won be able to afford the upkeep delivering pizzas

>>936225652
>I’m a white man, an intelligent fucking white man.
So why are you still doing deliveries at 33? Better yet, why are you asking /b/, of all places, what to do with your life?

>>936223760 (OP)
Join a trade, try not to be useless

>>936226311
Cry harder, faggot.

>>936226360
It's fun and I'm good at it.

>>936226866
Soyjak party is low key better BTW

>>936226544
They just want to flood the market with cheap labor tbh, not fucking participating in that bullshit.

>>936224987
Nursing is a big dedication but if more people entered the field it wouldn't be so bad. It's mostly thankless, you won't make as much as doctors obviously, the hours are long and you will be called in on your off days.

>>936226920
You're implying that I'd mind. I wouldn't mind. The pay in my state for RNs and BSNs is very lucrative.

Think you can keep up with someone as fiery as me? emyzeth

>>936226991
would

>>936223760 (OP)
I've been an ER nurse for the last five years. It's a shitty but rewarding job. Where and when you work has a huge impact on your quality of life. Patient care can be exhausting, especially in the ER when you get bogged down with unessential tasks while trying to manage critical patients.

Rad techs make decent money. Start off in XRay and then do your CT boards. Get a few years under your belt and travel. Slightly less pay, but less stress and virtually no patient care/responsibility.

I'm in Iowa, five years ago my base pay was 25, it was around 34 when I left my hospital last year and moved to an acute care and took a paycut. I think I'm back up to 33ish base pay now, working nights. Night shift differential puts me at ~40/hr. I see minimal patients and it's an easy gig. I work at the same location as a travel nurse making ~80 an hour before I took the staff position. Traveling is very lucrative if that's your thing, it wasn't for me.

Do NOT get your LPN before your RN. It's a waste of time and money. You get paid way less, get all the crap assignments, can't give IV meds.

>>936227051
Average base for an ER nurse in Delaware is close to $70/hr. You are very very underpaid for what you do. Probably because you're in Iowa. I get the lower COL and everything but if I had the credentials and skills that you have, I would not be in some shithole like Iowa.

>>936225429
Rad techs make over 100k a year in my state you're a retard

>>936225457
OP the anon ur replying to is retarded but you probably shouldn't be throwing stones at blue collar work when you are currently a delivery driver lol

I'm a male nurse OP. If you want to help people, interact with them, and care for them, get your RN. If you want to make more money but not do as much clinical work, be a rad tech. They are both about 2 years of schooling either way. There isn't really anywhere to go from being a rad tech, which is the only thing that is limiting about it. An RN is extremely flexible, and you can go on to get your BSN or even your masters and become an NP. Once you become a rad tech that's it.

>>936226866
If you like your job, then why quit?
If you think you’d like nursing more, why not study it?
I feel like I’m not seeing the issue here. You can either keep a job you like or take the time to study something else you’d enjoy. Both options are good.

>>936227275
Most recently, I was a federal fucking employee. With the United States Postal Service. I've worked for UPS, Amazon, drove for Amazon, I've done home health care work, and I've done delivery work since 2016 working for top tier companies across three states. What the fuck have you done, boy? Not a damn thing besides run your mouth. You likely have never held a job before. Ever. Probably some faggot NEET living in his elderly parents house leeching off of them and when they die, you're gonna be on the streets.

I look down upon people like you. I look down upon blue collar people too because they are ultimately pieces of shit. They're a net negative to society and they behave and live like niggers. Do you know how fucking rich most of my customers are? Very. I just delivered to a $1.4 million house on Monday. A resident drove by me in a McLaren.

>>936227339
Yeah, I know. I had a customer who was a RadTech and he recommended it. Made damn good money too but there's no upward mobility with it like there is nursing. I've always been interested in psych nursing. I was in a psychiatric unit before and the nurses were really top notch.

>>936227396
>If you like your job, then why quit?
Because I can't pass a DOT physical due to my hearing so there's really no way for me to make more money as a delivery driver since I can't even get my CDL. Does that make sense? So I'm stuck doing last mile delivery bullshit. I would rather have a tangible skill that I can use for my own benefit. Anyone can become a delivery driver but not everyone can become a nurse.

>>936227426
Anon I am the male nurse lol and you're retarded because he's a 33 year old and you're mocking the idea of him doing something he wants to do with his life instead of "being a provider" and working in fucking HVAC. There's nothing wrong with your work at all, but you are being a dick for absolutely no reason.

>>936227472
You must be overworked because I know you didn't mean to reply to me lol

>>936227472
Nevermind it is ME who is the retarded

>>936227506
is okay, nurse fren

>>936227527
Anyways you really have to have a passion for helping people to do nursing, otherwise you will burn out extremely fast ESPECIALLY if you work in psych. That doesn't really apply to being a rad tech. Your patients are in and out. So think about that when making a decision. You could also get your CNA in like 3 months and work as one of those to see if you are interested. That's what I did when I became a medical assistant first. They do more grunt work than nurses but you will at least get your feet in the setting to see how you feel about it

>>936227593
My sister's a CNA and I've seen what she does and I wouldn't ever do that. I don't have the patience for it.

>>936227472
The zoomers are supposed to become the electricians, plumbers, hvac, and mexican replacements

>>936227603
Yeah so that's your answer. Can you tolerate it for a year or two? Because you definitely will need to do that work during your clinical rotation if nothing else.

>>936227634
Tolerate being a CNA? If I were required to and it was mandatory. I wouldn't willingly want to just be a CNA and work in that field, no. Not even remotely close.

>>936225776
I went from photography and videographer failure to plumbing at the age of 30. Best thing about it is getting away from the fucking women and you're in the trade long enough and you'll learn about how to build a house, you'll be feeling a sense of satisfaction and reward when you learn to build things. You get away from human resources and the epic failure of propping up women while they get paid more than you.

You don't have to, but I learned plumbing and am learning gas at the age of 38 now, qualified plumber, and I'm happy with it being my base skill that supports me making YouTube videos in the long run and trying to make it in that. It's just a stepping stone for me and possibly not because I fucking love building shit.

>>936227649
No I mean can you do that type of work. Wiping asses, changing bedsheets, washing people. You definitely will need to do that in clinicals during school if you go the nursing route.

>>936227667
My uncle did plumbing and HVAC for a very long time. He can't even afford dentures right now. So fuck all that. All of my uncles were in blue collar work except for the one who worked for Amtrak because he actually went to college through the military and wasn't stupid.

>>936227697
Why is that even a fucking requirement? I thought you retards had patient care technicians now for all of that shit.

>>936227667
Oh yeah anon, that's another thing, if you hate women or they get on your nerves or anything like that, you will HATE nursing. I never get shit on for being a male by them, but they are women, so all of the gossip and drama that comes along with that applies. I think it's entertaining personally so I just listen and nod along when they talk to me usually.

>>936227709
Because you're in school anon lol they teach you everything even if you won't use it necessarily they want to make sure you can do hands on patient care if you need to. Also that's what we use CNAs for.

>>936227709
>patient care technicians
kek they're outsourcing again.

>>936227768
>>936227773
That's like teaching me, a delivery driver, how to drive manual knowing that I more than fucking likely will never need to use a manual transmission for anything I drive.

>>936223760 (OP)
You dont.
All the money and jobs are in trades.
Get a job at the mines digging holes or hammering shit and enjoy your 150k/yr.

>>936227799
Nigger what the fuck do you think this is? Omar, West Virginia?

>>936227795
That's not... really the same thing. In plenty of roles in nursing you will be doing direct patient care. Not everywhere has CNAs or PCTs. It doesn't sound like you have the tolerance for that, so maybe rad tech would be a better route.

>>936227799
Maybe that is a good job in your 20s but that work is going to destroy your body over time.

>>936227850
It's exactly the same fucking thing, you dense ER slave. You don't sound that intelligent yourself so why the fuck am I listening to you?

>>936227882

>>936227930
So let me get this straight—you go to school, bust your ass, rack up debt, pass the NCLEX, get licensed as a fucking RN... and now you’re expected to do CNA grunt work because “not everywhere has CNAs or PCTs”?

Then why the fuck do CNAs exist? Why even have roles and scopes of practice if the system’s just gonna dump it all on the RN the second they’re short-staffed? I didn’t go to school to be a CNA. I didn’t pay thousands, study diagnostics, pharmacology, care plans, wound vacs, and IV pumps just to be wiping ass for $30 an hour because someone couldn’t hire a tech.

You don’t hire a mechanic to sweep the damn shop floor.
You don’t pay an architect to haul bricks.
So don’t hand me that “sometimes you just gotta” bullshit—that’s not flexibility, that’s exploitation.

If you’re gonna justify burning out RNs by saying “not everywhere has support staff”, then maybe the whole system is broken, not the nurse.
Don’t tell me I “don’t have the tolerance” for it because I expect to do the job I trained for. I’m not soft—I’m just not a fucking fool.

Call the job what it is. If you're gonna have RNs doing CNA work, then stop pretending it's a specialized, professional career. Own the bait-and-switch. But don't act like I’m the problem because I know my worth.

>>936227878
It's not even a good job in your twenties. If I were in my 20's again, I'd go the fuck to college. Full time and live there. Fuck this bullshit I'm doing now and fuck the trades, they're meant to destroy the lives of good white men.

>>936227967
I'm just giving you the reality, anon. I never described it as a specialized glamorous career. Get mad at the healthcare industry, not me.

>>936228029
Go to college for what?

>>936228068
At that time, I wanted to go to Wake Forest University for either business or finance. My mother spent 30+ years at Citigroup so I grew up in the business, I've studied business and finance before in high school, and I went to real estate school. So it's not something I don't know how to do, it's just that I don't have the fucking energy to do it anymore.

>>936228040
Then why do you put yourself through that?

>>936228103
Because I get fulfillment from helping people and taking care of them.

>>936228098
Just absorb the energy from others like the other satanist scum.

>>936228133
And I got fulfillment from taking care of my dying mother for three years. But guess what? I didn't succeed in what I was tasked to do. Keep her here. She passed December 27th, 2023. And guess what else? I blame people like you for that. I blame the hospital that we took her to. And the dipshits who took care of her. That are only there for a check. Or some narcissistic bullshit that they've put themselves up to. I've met a lot of nurses where I live because I live near a massive Level I trauma center and I'll tell you this: the majority of them are pieces of shit. Especially the whores that I see at Wawa every fucking day. Skin tight scrubs on, driving a white Mercedes, I couldn't stand doing what you do. But you do it in Iowa where no one has a pot to piss in or a window to throw it out of.

>>936228178
What?

>>936227094
Yeah Iowa doesn't pay well for nurses. I'll be starting my DNP program soon but I'll still earn less doing that vs. traveling locally. It's a love/hate relationship. I would leave Iowa if my husband would give the green light, sadly all of our family is here including our kid we co-parent. The family farm is here as well, so we'll be taking that over in a few years. Also hard to justify leaving our 2.5% mortgage. I've come to terms that I'll always earn a mediocre salary for my profession.

>>936223760 (OP)
In this situation I'd go for something practical, such as maintenance of a certain type of machinery. It's quick to learn and jobless-proof.

>>936228209
>if my husband
Bitch what? Are you a femanon?

>>936223760 (OP)
idk but not cs/se
as a new grad there is no job at all even art degree is more useful than this shit today

>>936228221
Did you like miss the part where I said I'm 33?

>>936228203
You harvest their luge, or absorb their chakra, or you know

>>936228195
I can't do anything about your resentment towards those people anon. I just want to help others, so I picked a job where I do that. If you don't want to, that's fine, pick something else.

>>936228265
I’m not mad at you personally for picking nursing or “wanting to help.” I’m mad as hell at what you’re defending—a system that chews people up, spits them out, and forces folks to sell their souls just to survive.

You say you want to help others, but where the fuck was that when my mother was left to rot in a hospital full of “nurses” who only clocked in for the paycheck and swaggered around in their designer scrubs? I saw the narcissism, the laziness, the cold-ass attitude wrapped up in white coats and Mercedes keys.

I lived through the bullshit you’re trying to gloss over. I saw the difference between the few who give a damn and the many who don’t. And I’m not about to let some well-meaning nurse hide behind “I’m just trying to help” while the system they’re part of lets people like my mom slip through the cracks.

If your idea of helping is just showing up to punch the clock in a scrub costume, I don’t want it. I want real change. But you? You’re cool with keeping the machine running as is, and that’s why I blame people like you too.

So yeah, keep your pity or whatever. I’m done sugarcoating this shit. I wanted to be a nurse to be better than those who let my mother die. That's all. Other than that, I could give a flying fuck.

>>936228309
I didn't defend anything, I only told you what my experience in the system is. Your schizo behavior is unwarranted.

>>936228378
You didn’t defend shit, you said the same tired excuses the system feeds everyone to keep them in line. Sharing your “experience” doesn’t mean you’re innocent or above criticism—it just means you’ve swallowed the bullshit and repeated it.

Calling me “schizo” is just weak-ass deflection from someone who can’t handle being called out. If you want to have a real conversation, drop the insults and own what you’re really saying—that you’re okay with how broken this all is.

But if all you got is name-calling and gaslighting? Save it. I’m done wasting time with people who hide behind “my experience” when it just props up the machine that’s fucking us all over.

>>936228389
No, I'm calling you schizo because I am talking about what I experienced in nursing and trying to help someone decide a career and you are going on a schizo rant about nurses wearing fancy clothes and your dead mom. get a hold of yourself anon.

>>936228445
Eat a fucking bag of dicks, you stupid bitch. I hope your hillbilly husband wises up and leaves your ass.

>>936228456
I'm a man you retard

>>936228471
Oh so you're a fag with a husband and a farm?

>>936228479
That's a different anon you stupid fucking cunt

>>936228479
Yup.

>>936228488
im confus

Depends.

If you want 100% certainty of a job - medicine, dentistry, or nusring. If you want 90% of work in a white collar job but probably won't do the thing you actually studied for - engineering. Accounting is basically the same - boring but safe.

Anons saying law are retards. Only people who go to ivy leagues get jobs with law, otherwise you are a pencil pusher.

I worked for career service a few years back and these were the best degrees to employment. Economics and finance were the highest paying, but the employment rate compared to medicine, engineering, and accounting were lower; you can't be be an autismo and have to network - most people who are into finance are probably already good socially.

Hope this helps

You should just an hero

>>936225595
Unions. Kek.

>>936225429
>electrician on machine tech maybe
Aids, dead end job. You might as well keep delivering stuff.

>>936224987
Do radiation therapy. It pays way better and the hours are better

>>936224987
I don't mean radiation tech when I say radiation therapy either. Radiation techs makes like half of what therapists make and is the same amount of schooling. It's way more rewarding too. You get to fucking kill cancer as your job. You can literally make people walk again in some cases. If you get tired of seeing patients, you can go into dosimetry and make twice as much money working from home highlighting organs on CT scans

>>936228831
Nigger OP is doing delivery, not sure he cares about advancement.

>>936229737
I care about your mom, faggot

I doubt law would be a good fit for you unless you have a family member that can walk you through that field. I hear it's generally tough getting clients unless you want to be a personal injury attorney. Lots of lawyers switch over to personal injury, so they can at least make a decent paycheck. If you choose anything in the medical field that saves lives, then you'll get lots of praise when you tell people what you do for a living. Yes there will still be those people who couldn't give a fuck what you do for a living, but there are tons of people out there who's parents and grandparents got a few extra years of life, because of medical professionals, and they really appreciate that. I'm not a medical professional, but I work for a company that manufactures life-saving medical equipment. These little devices that pull blood clots away from a patient's heart. There are techs, IT guys, Mechanical engineers, quality control managers, CNC Operators(they don't get paid much), and HR personnel. All of them get to tell family, friends and strangers that they work for a company that makes life-saving medical equipment, and that every device that company makes, saves a person's life. So keep that in mind in case you decide not to be a nurse or medical tech.

Your sister and dad want to have loud sex with you out of the house.
Someone had to tell you.

agriculture and then you do farming simulator irl