Is this really the party of the people?

>>936717356 (OP)
yes, if you are an immigrant with a work in the tech industry

>>936717356 (OP)
>Thoughts

I think he should be arrested for sedition, have his citizenship revoked and be deported back to South Africa.

>>936717356 (OP)
There is no "America" party. Both parties are authoritarian and they would have been labeled as traitors by the founding fathers. Imagine telling George Washington or Thomas Jefferson or James Madison that you believed that "No freedom is about being a good boy and being safe!" "No we need to have a database to spy on every American for safety!"

They literally said things like "Those who value safety over freedom deserve neither." And you niggers will be obsessed with instituting your psychopathic police state while claiming 1776.

>>936717356 (OP)
Elon is a massive faggot. The only people who like him are 3rd world pajeets. Elon is what happen when a retard is born with money and gets luck while fumbling through life

>>936717356 (OP)
it'll siphon off Musk fanboys and technocrats from the Republican party and give elections to the Democrats

>>936717790
>>936717834
always funny when jeets start attacking other street shitters

With the exception of privacy concerns I have no expectations of a self professed free speech proponent that desires censorship of comments and content they hate seeing. I think it says a lot about a person.

>>936717356 (OP)
A Party founded by a South African who has no fucking clue how normal people live?

Are you serious??????

>>936717356 (OP)
I'm only surprised he didn't just come right out and call it the American National People's Party.

>>936717356 (OP)
He's already burned the independents and dems who liked him when he sided with trump. His head is so far up his own ass. What an idiot.

>>936717356 (OP)
>A third party
Thank fucking god, I'll take it. Seriously, anything to pull some people away from the two-party system where they become increasingly more delusional. This country needs a third choice.

>>936718324
>He doesn't toe the party line
>Head up his ass
It's people like this that need to get offed. Fucking faggots, is your life really that pathetic that you care what either side says?

>>936718500
See, the proof took two seconds.

>>936717356 (OP)
We NEED another party. The 2 we have are a mess. Other big countries have several to choose from

>>936718530
>Toe
Why is android so fucking retarded?

>>936718536
/thread

Anyone who said otherwise is full of shit.

>>936718530
He could've done a third party before siding with trump but he decided to do it after. He's burned all his goodwill.

Don't we already have multiple other parties to choose from other than just two? There's the Green party and Libertarian and others. They just have no funding but you'd think they would have gained some interest with the way the Big Two are acting. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_political_parties_in_the_United_States
Elon's party probably won't last,

>>936718536
other countries have prime ministers instead of a president

>>936717660
That was Dr.Franklin.
He said 'Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety'
But he didn't mean what you just said, that paraphrasing would be vastly out of context.
When he said this, there was a tax dispute between the General Assembly, and the Penns Family, whom Pennsylvania is named after, as they were ruling the Pennsylvania colony from a distance and were ultimately acting against the Assembly, when the Assembly asked the Penns to pay tax on their land (like everyone else) to help pay for the French and Indian war, the Penns instructed the Governor to veto it. This, to Dr. Franklin, was an affront to the ability of the Assembly to govern, and so he then said 'Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety'
He meant it literally, the Penn family was trying to pay a lump sum of money to get the acknowledgement from the Assembly that the Assembly doesn't have the jurisdiction to tax them.
Essentially, it means precisely the opposite of what you're saying it to mean. History should be observed in context of the time.

>>936717356 (OP)
>Is this really the party of the people?
No It's the party of an oligarch, because the other party didn't serve him well enough.

>>936717660
>>936719054
Just in case it was not obvious, safety from Indians and French, Liberty from Tax.
Hope this helps

>>936718536
We have plenty of other parties, people choose to not fuck with them

>>936717790
And Trump isn't? Elon is insane, but he has a high IQ. Trump is a fucking idiot.

reminder: this thread was created as a means of dissent, they're trying to create in fighting

>>936717356 (OP)
Party of H1bs

>>936719317
no way, prove it

>>936719317
>A way of creating infighting
I love the idea that Democrats are somehow so ineffective they barely ran a campaign, yet they're so well coordinated they're using George Soros money to make Elon and Trump fight so everyone will argue with each other.

>>936717356 (OP)
How Musk ever became a billionaire is beyond my understanding. This is right up there on a stupidity scale with, "Let's start a band."

>>936719733
more like 'let's open a restaurant' stupid

>>936717356 (OP)
lmao

>>936718536
We don't have a parliament. That matters.

>>936720373
wdym?
The United States Congress is the legislative branch of the federal government of the United States. It is a bicameral legislature, including a lower body, the U.S. House of Representatives, and an upper body, the U.S. Senate.

>>936717356 (OP)
Tesla shareholders should start looking for a new CEO. Musk has truly lost it.

>>936720462
that's a Congress. In a parliament the chief executive authority is chosen by parliamentary instead of a general election

SAAAAAAAR

>>936718319
You mean the American National Socialist People's Party?

>>936720373
You do have a bicameral parliament (the house of representatives is the lower house, the senate is the upper house). The major difference to Westminster parliamentary governments is that the cabinet isn’t elected by the lower house – the president is elected separately, and they can arbitrarily appoint unelected people to the cabinet, hence DUI hire Pete Hegseth.
What you don’t have is preferential voting and proportional representation.

>>936720522
It’s still a bicameral parliament, even if the cabinet isn’t selected from the lower house.

>>936717356 (OP)
A poor person isn't the cause of your problems
A rich person isn't the solution to your problems

>>936718265
In Czech Republic here, the "Czechia first!" party was founded by a Japanese. Weird how often that happens.

>>936717356 (OP)
Elon Musk's America Party
>more H1B Indians
>more gibsmedats for Tesla and SpaceX
>more gun control laws
>free speech but only to say things that Daddy Elon agrees with
No thanks.

>>936717356 (OP)

>>936717356 (OP)
ha ha ha no. he's just another rich prick who wants more for himself and less for everyone else. THAT is why he bought Trump's presidency.

The best we can hope for is he divides the Republican voters and we can finally be rid of the treasonous MAGA movement.

>>936721809
Awww, it's hilarious that retards like you still exist. You'll never see another demoshit in the WH again in your lifetime. Get a job or KYS. Your time of whining and dilating is over and this world is not yours.

>>936721809
>we
You're a tiny minority that nobody gives a shit about anymore.

>>936717356 (OP)
faggot

>>936719183
>has a high IQ
his actions over the last few years definitely don't support that. He only looks smart next to a puddinghead like Trump.

>>936721987
No we're not chud.

>>936718530
Get a load of this glazer. Musk literally bought the Trump presidency and popularized the term "dark MAGA". He's just a Republican who can't stand not being the center of attention.

>>936721973
>subsonic ammo is fine
clearly someone who knows fuck all about guns.

>>936721987
>still simping for billionaires
you lot sure are pathetic.

Musk is the worlds number one welfare queen

>>936717356 (OP)
>from the most racist country on the planet
>Nazi salute at the presidential inauguration
>dems won't take my money because I'm a piece of shit
>dont know shit about running anything unless something needs to be run into the ground
>idea

>>936719861
imagine being so wealthy and so miserable at the same time. It's almost (but not quite) pitiable.

>>936717356 (OP)
Send that nigger back to Africa

>>936722601
>clearly someone who knows fuck all about guns.

I remember when I was 12 and this was a sick burn. Now it just sounds like nerd/incel shit.

>>936722979
>I want people legislating on things they know nothing about
let me guess, you drink raw milk like a MAHA retard

>>936723095
>people legislating on things they know nothing about
To be fair, thats pretty much how government has always worked.

>>936723549
not when the Democrats are in power

>>936723549
oh shut up with that boomer Ronald Reagan nonsense. It's worn thin, indeed.

>>936723588
I mean they can fuck shit up too (the AWB was actually toothless) but they're not directly antagonistic to experts.

>>936717834
And the Democrats will use the opportunity to give their base even less of what they want until elections are within 1% again.

I don't understand how people don't get this. You have huge corporations that want things. They give money to politicians to give them those things. So the politician wants to get elected so he can accept bribes. What the corporations want and what the people of the country want are different things. So the politicians give the people as little as possible while still getting elected. And their opponents do the same. That's why every election is narrow as fuck. Any asshole can just win. Cannabis decriminalization was popular as hell and politicians refused to legalize it for a very long time. Until it became impossible to win elections without it. 60+% of Americans want Universal Healthcare. 90% of Americans want higher taxes on the rich. Anyone who wants to win can just do it. But they don't want those things even more.

>>936723588
Gotta keep protecting society from the shoulder thing that goes up

>>936723665
so vote against centrist DINOs in the primaries. civic participation is still the answer.

Elon Mush just needs to get doxxed then he will have to hold his tongue about everything and everyone that he is criminally bound to.

the congress is setup for amenities for two parties a third party will have trouble to getting access to the amenities and i forsee a time when the people useing the amenities inside congress are not the representees that were elected, bad idea.
tldr: 2 party system has better break room and morale.

>>936718265
>>936721571
Immigrants have some idea of how difficult it is to uproot your life and get set up somewhere else. Which would make them want to ensure the place he bothered to do this at doesn't self destruct.

This is immigrants mind you and not just people who move into a new land.

>>936717356 (OP)
If I join his Party, can I date his daughter?

>>936717356 (OP)
At this point, I'd be happy to see Musk's 'party' disrupt the two party dichotomy. I don't expect it to supplant either party, but I'd love to see it cause disruption.

>>936717356 (OP)
Fuck Musk
Fuck Trump
Fuck Vance
Fuck Johnson

Surely THIS egomaniac ghoul will fix everything.

>>936717356 (OP)
>Is this really the party of the people?

ONLY if "the people" are billionaires AND would-be oligarchs.

In reality, it is "The America Party" in name only. None of its members are American citizens, and neither of them can legally vote in an election. The "party" only has two members; Elon Musk and his son, "X" -- you know... the kid who told Trump that he needed to shut his mouth and "be quiet".

>>936725684
The tranny?

>>936717356 (OP)

Elon's political instincts are absolutely atrocious. Dude was surprised when people didn't like him making fun of folks losing their careers. He may get a couple of seats in -deep- red districts if he wins a primary but he's politically toxic to a vast majority of the country. He'll be front and center in political ads across the country in the midterms. Hope everyone looked seeing his waive/solute, because that'll be in pretty much every commercial in any district that's the slightest bit competitive.

>>936718500
>anything to pull some people away from the two-party system where they become increasingly more delusional. This country needs a third choice.

If you would get out of your parents' basement once in awhile, you'd know that this country has 4 choices:

Republican Party (GOP)
Democratic Party
Independent Party
and
Democratic Socialist Party (a new party started by AOC and her cohort, Bernie Sanders)

So, tell me again how this country "needs a third choice".

He's the younger, richer and smarter version of Trump we need for the future. I'm on board.

>>936717356 (OP)
>dems dont like him because they think hes a nazi
>repubs dont like him because they think he betrayed trump
who is going to vote for him?

My only hope is to watch on live TV as Republicans start killing each other

>>936718536
>Other big countries have several to choose from

Actually, the U.S. has 3 "official" parties; Democratic, Republican, and Independent; and one new political party, the Democratic Socialist Party created by Bernie Sanders and AOC that only serves to confuse people. There was a Democratic Socialist Party in Nazi Germany, too..

America's political party system got whittled down to two for a long time. There was a third party for a long time, the Whig Party; but it became extinct over time.

You need to get out more, hermit anon.

>>936717356 (OP)
Maybe his party will be competitive withe the green party...

>>936726564
This but also you can write in votes so technically we have as many parties as there are candidates which is usually several hundred, not just the 4 you see on TV.

>>936717356 (OP)
gay cringe pseudo Nazi shit that is going to fail and be forgotten about.

if it does get as big as the Republican or Democratic party it will be a sign that it has become a corrupt third world shithole they wipe their asses with the constitution with.

now fuck off for talking about politics on my /b/

>>936718543
>Why is android so fucking retarded?

It isn't Android. "Toe the line" has been an expression since the 17th century. It means to have one's toes on a specific line; a starting line, a boundary line; etc.

Anon's statement, that Musk doesn't "toe the party line" simply means that Musk doesn't abide by the rules of any particular political party.

So, turning the question around, Why are YOU so naive?

>>936726963
its TOW faggot

>>936719861
My meme LAUGHS at your meme!

>>936727017
only a muskshit would think there's an invisible line you could tow like one of his shitty vehicles not working lol

>>936727224
1 it was a joke designed to piss you off because I am obviously wrong
2 I am not invested in politics like you zoomshit

now kill yourself.

you would have more of my respect if your were a reddit soy playing with toys.

>>936721644
>the same slope as Trump
This again. ..

>>936720697
If ANYTHING can be called "fake news", it's your meme.

>>936717356 (OP)
Yes Dawkins is a scientist so of course he's going to discuss religion with respect to its material claims. He wouldn't have such fertile territory to explore were it not for the fact that religions often do make material claims about the universe or, at the very least, they have a large number of believers who interpret their faiths in such a way.
You simultaneously criticize him having insufficient knowledge outside his field yet demand his arguments attain an unbounded breadth so as to encompass more diverse interpretations of religion. Now satisfying one surely means betraying the other, no? You admit no plausible criteria in which Dawkins' argument can satisfy you or even be evaluated by you as substantive because you have a puerile hostility towards his existence. In short, you're arguing in bad faith.
It's also worth nothing that defining a narrow bounds for a conversation is scholarly practice. If you don't agree with the material claims put forward by most religions then Dawkins' criticism should mean nothing to you. If anything, you should appreciate it, as it may drive away the more clownish adherents who tend to detract from everyone else.

>>936717356 (OP)
will he make maga great again?

>>936727368
>I am not invested in politics
ohhhh yes you are
you're upset that we're slowly moving further and further to the left and there's nothing Trump can do to stop it lol

Waiting for the Hang Billionaires Party, that would get my vote

>>936725232
I Don't think Musk is a typical "immigrant".

Like I said,the man has no fucking clue how normal people live.

>>936723095
Uhhhhhhhhhhhhh....the people most likely to do that shit are the people who take the most pride in knowing how to operate a firearm (as though it isn't trivial).

>>936718500
Obama and Trump both ran their campaigns on the notion that they were something antagonistic to the existing system. You see how that turned out.
Now the guy who backed Trump is setting up for a presidential run and people are given the same song and dance.

>>936717356 (OP)
I'm down for it. Seig Heil.