Thread 936752957

Why do atheists give up on Christianity as soon as they experience any difficulty in life?

what? atheists aren't christians to begin with, how do you give up on something you weren't adhering to?

I bet Della Reese's cootchie used to smell like rotten biscuits and gravy.

RIP Big Mama <3

>>936752957 (OP)
Why do you completely fail repeatedly to understand atheism? There are plenty of resources online where you can educate yourself, and yet you come to a board full of literal shit.

Atheists don't get that way because they encountered difficulty. For me, I settled on atheism because religious people of all stripes are clearly doing nonsense rituals and talking to themselves. They come to the wrong conclusions about how the world works. They use their faith to take away the rights of others. The most logical explanation is that they invented a god and it tells them it is okay for them to do whatever they were going to do anyway.

>>936752957 (OP)
Why do die hard Christians always think it is God's will/plan when they do something stupid that kills someone.

For example, not allowing their children to get surgery to heal them and instead opting for "JeSuS wIlL hEaL mY kID!" and then they die. "Oh It WaS gOd'S pLaN tO tEsT uS!"

>>936752957 (OP)
a) The odds of Jesus returning from the dead are slim to none and the odds of lying humans making interpolations to embellish the tale later is far more likely.

b) The big 3 are in competition with one another and at least 1 wanted atheism to flourish to weaken christianity and so they helped make atheism popular 20 years ago.

c) The fact that many christians are heavily critical of science when science is supposed to be empirical makes it appear that christians are "against reality" and hard to relate to for an atheist.

d) The fact that most of the population, atheists included, are horrific science illiterates means it's very easy for an atheist to become enamored and fall prey to the fact very little that is passed off as science is actually science.

e) Tribal instincts are real and atheists and christians get dug into their positions and against each other because they constantly enter in little retaliation spirals. Even if a casual christian/atheist hasn't done anything an atheist/christian that's got a bone to pick can say some mean shit to the christian/atheist and now the atheist/christian feels like they're getting "attacked out of nowhere," and so the pattern repeats.

>>936755159
>For me, I settled on atheism because religious people of all stripes are clearly doing nonsense rituals and talking to themselves.
If only you knew the power of the placebo effect.

>They come to the wrong conclusions about how the world works.
Everybody does.

>They use their faith to take away the rights of others.
Everybody does.

>The most logical explanation is that they invented a god and it tells them it is okay for them to do whatever they were going to do anyway.
No. There is a case to be made that there was 1 big deceiver that got the ball rolling, and sure, while that leaves room for later charlatans to push it along? ... most christians are sincere believers.

>>936755265
because christianity is only a religion for the weak and the easily swayed

>>936753051
Some of us have been one, and then become the other.

>>936752957 (OP)
In my experience, talking with other formerly christian atheists, hardship never enters into it.

The catalyst is usually reading the bible thoroughly and critically. But not always.

For me its just the extremely weak metaphysical position of Christianity and all prher world religions that remove them as probable contenders for further understanding of the world.

>>936755159
>The most logical explanation is that they invented a god
Nope. At least one rapture has already occurred. This planet is, in fact, the place that some people from Earth (such as myself) were raptured to. We weren't "taken to Heaven." We were brought here instead. We're now on a real, physical, 3D planet that is definitely NOT Earth.

Bottom line: This planet is Bozrah, not Earth. Furthermore, the event in which Jesus destroys this planet is called "the day of vengeance." There will be no 7-year Tribulation or Antichrist here—because this isn't Earth. Earth is roughly 75,000 light years from here (and is currently going through the Tribulation). This is just an impostor planet.

Make sure to read my pinned X thread (all four posts). And regarding my X bio, I am exactly who I say I am. Bozrah natives must break free from the spell they've been under. This entire situation has gotten so ridiculous. At this point, I'm just waiting for the day of vengeance.

Pinned X thread:

https://x.com/elitefeat/status/1742924942151438589
or
https://bozrah.info

I'm genuinely curious: How long will you keep pretending this is Earth? The time for pretending has long since passed.

>>936755647
>because christianity is only a religion for the weak and the easily swayed
See this post ... >>936755892

>>936755892
This is some good Larp shit. So much more fun than christianity.

>>936755159
>Atheists don't get that way because they encountered difficulty
yes, they do. they have a difficulty understanding things.

>>936756020
>they have a difficulty understanding things.
What sort of things do you imagine atheists have a particular hard time understanding?

I think I have spoken to more atheists than you, being old and living in a country with extensive personal freedom, and I do know some things that atheists in particular seem to have a hard time gransking.

Many struggle, for example with understanding why others are christian, or muslim or hindu and see it as some sort of personal failiure on the part of the believer. They fail to see the grander societal chains around us that can push people without proper means to grasp nonsense propositions out of ignorance or compliance.

But i dont think this is the difficulty you are talikng about. Can you elaborate?

Joel Osteen is a complete faggot and should die

>>936756397
Dont worry. Everyone dies.

Who's volunteering to be my little secret tonight?

Only real men need to message me-boys can scroll.

>>936752957 (OP)
Christians are the one who have given up on life and only do what they do in the hopes of getting some magical reward in some magical afterlife.

>>936752957 (OP)
>Why do atheists give up on Christianity as soon as they experience any difficulty in life?
I was never a Christian in the first place anon, your religion isn't the default factory settings that humans are born with.
You were born an atheist and then you parents convinced you to become a Christian before you were old enough to question whether or not it sounds sensible.

>>936756194
>gransking.
Scandinaviabro?

>>936756397
I've always felt this way.

>>936752957 (OP)
Why do grown men not see the absurdity of a magic invisible floating faggot in the sky?

>>936752957 (OP)
A lot of people just believe what they have been told and that it was true

>>936759453
Well in their defense they couldn't help doing that, because they were told that by their parents when they were at an age where not listening to them would be tantamount to death for the kid.
To a 4 year old what mom and dad says is the gospel, even if it isn't the actual gospel.

>>936759132
How are there grown men who don't know about wing suits and this its some kind of impossible ordeal to float in the sky?

>>936752957 (OP)
agnosticism is the most reasonable belief

>>936756020
>...athiests... have a difficulty understanding things...
>quotes someone posting a picture of an article saying "electricity is a mystery"
This is why nobody has respect for Religion anymore. You ignore the stupidity of your own people, in an attempt to attack the stupidity in others.
Would your savior have done the same?

>>936758926
hei kompis

>>936759578
>How are there grown men who don't know about wing suits and this its some kind of impossible ordeal to float in the sky?
You glide in a wing suit, you don't float.

>>936759678
Hej dav svensker anon.

>>936759684
Movement depends on the wind conditions, they literally test them out in wind chambers where they float in place.

>>936759720
>they literally test them out in wind chambers where they float in place.
Sure, but that isn't floating in the sky, that is floating in a wind chamber. When they are in the sky in a wing suit they are gliding.

>>936752957 (OP)
If you have a problem and you keep applying the same solution and do not receive results, you try a different solution.

>>936759740
Only if the wind chamber is indoors, but they have outdoor chambers too and again, it depends on the wind conditions whether they can do a holding pattern and float in place.

>>936755892
This is Earth because we arbitrarily named it Earth.

>>936759776
I mean we could both argue back and forth on this, but this joke in relation to anon calling a god a faggot floating in the sky is getting tired, especially since both of us are mocking it.

>>936758926
Youp. Og telefonen er tuppa hardt inn på autocorrect til Norsk x|

>>936759602
Depends on what you mean with "agnosticism".
What is the practical difference between saying "I don't worship any nor believe in any Gods, I am an atheist" and "I don't worship any nor believe in any Gods, I am an agnostic."

What do you think the difference between an atheist and an agnostic is?

>>936759813
Ok, but your mocking can also be mocked since that isn't even the only way people can float, I haven't even mentioned jet packs or balloons.

>>936759883
Wing suits glide, so you can't mock that.
But yeah both jetpacks and balloons float and would have better ways of mocking anons floating sky faggot.

>>936759823
Kamelösa min ven.

>>936760069
>Wing suits glide
Not necessarily, people tend to glide because it is more exciting, but it isn't the only way to use a wingsuit as you have already conceded before you decided to go back to the old debunked losing argument.

>>936752957 (OP)
Atheism is just Christianity minus the spirituality. Every single atheist believes in faggot cultural Christianity like blm and lgbt.

>>936760423
>cultural Christianity

>>936760423
Since when is LGBT christian cultural ideology?

>>936760462
These people don't understand a world without religion, so they have to pretend atheism is also a religion.

>>936760423
You think BLM and LGBTQ+ is ... christian?

>>936760546
>>936760551
It’s basically a secular form of religion. With unprovable but indisputable doctrines that its blasphemy to question.

>>936760573
Yeah they’re all predicated on the basic Christian fairy tale that everyone is equal.

>>936760582
What the fuck are you talking about?

>>936760593
Left wing social ideology that’s basically a gayer version of Christianity.

>>936760609
Ok and? Is that the dictionary definition of atheism?

>>936760609
So not christian at all and having nothing to do with christian ideology or culture whatsoever?

>>936760643
It’s based entirely on Christian ideology.

>>936760588
Sure, that must be why they say christ is king and have long processes to canonize saints because to christians everyone is equal.

>>936760609
There are plenty of atheists that don't follow Leftist ideology, so yeah you're making this shit up because you can't imagine a world without an invisible force guiding our actions.

>>936760798
So atheism is based on the worship of christ as a mangod?

>>936752957 (OP)
>Why do atheists give up on Christianity as soon as they experience any difficulty in life?

Well, there goes the "no atheists in foxholes" argument!

>>936760861
No, that’s the one aspect they reject. But all the social teachings of Jesus are sacred to the atheists. Try telling an atheist people aren’t all equal and see what happens.

>>936761054
Human beings are equal is not an ideology unique to Christians.
You're talking straight out of your ass.

>>936761054
>But all the social teachings of Jesus are sacred to the atheists.
Then why are all the atheists I know are more of an eye for an eye than turn the other cheek type person?

Atheists are the only ones I know who support eugenics and thing that everyone is based on their genetics.

>>936761079
Yes it is.

>>936761095
Eugenics is a far right position that almost no atheist holds because it’s not politically correct.

>>936761438
>Yes it is.
Dont know if troll or dumb.

Please say you're a troll.

>>936761582
It’s a central tenet of Christianity and almost no other religion.

>>936761614
Except Buddhism, Jainism, Taoism, Sikhism...

>>936761734
even Islam. It's at least part of their holy book. In many ways it goes even farther than the Bible in that regard.
(Not saying muslims live up to this. Especialy muslim countries wich are all right wing dystopian conservative hell holes, like all religiously based countries - with the exception of the Vatican if it counts, since that's just one big gay buddy club, and not really a country)

>>936762091
I deliberately avoided Abrahamic religions because this moron would just say "buh buh dats da same!" even though they're quite different but yeah the other Abrahamic religions also hold it as a core tenet.
This moron is totally full of shit and probably mentally ill.

>>936755892
See, this is all made up. I might as well believe Spiderman is real because I read about him in a comic book. You have to be delusional to believe what you are writing.

>giving up on Christianity because life is hard
Usually its the other way around, retard.

>>936752957 (OP)
I stopped believing in god about the same time as I stopped believing in Santa. No difficulty needed.

>>936759602
There is no such thing as agnosticism. You need to specify what you are agnostic about. Agnostic atheist, agnostic theist, agnostic believer in Santa. Agnostic alone is not anything.

>>936761054
Atheism does not imply any other beliefs beyond lack of belief in god. Leftism is a universal belief for most westerners, regardless of what religious beliefs they hold.

>>936765069
It's really just a way for Christians to divide up atheists. If I believe there is no god, and you aren't sure if there's a god, but neither of us go to church or act very differently, and we both think it's ridiculous that grown adults think you can fit two of all the animals into a boat, including dinosaurs, are we really so different?

Maybe Christians figure non believers have a bunch of denominations like they do. I think they have trouble coping with the idea that not everyone shares their religious beliefs. The mere existence of someone who isn't Christian gets some of them really offended.

>>936765395
>Maybe Christians figure non believers have a bunch of denominations like they do. I think they have trouble coping with the idea that not everyone shares their religious beliefs. The mere existence of someone who isn't Christian gets some of them really offended.

That's part of it, they redefined athiesm as 'believing there is no god' to shift the burden of proof among other things. Then agnostic as what athiesm actually means.

Its true there's sub categories (denominations?) Within athiesm, but it hardly matters

>>936765200
>Leftism is a universal belief for most westerners, regardless of what religious beliefs they hold.
If only, its a slim majority but righties cheat in elections to compensate

I started worshiping big Black cocks and my life has improved. I'm way happier and I sleep better than when I was a Christian

>>936764894
Was about a decade for me but I was well trained not to question.
It all came crashing down when I got 2 different answers regarding hell. When I went to investigate who to believe I came to the conclusion: neither

>>936764624
That guy has full blown schizophrenia, just a heads up

Niggas out here with they throtes clogged

>>936766600
Being politically right, does not mean you are not also a leftist. Leftism is almost universal, the beliefs of right-wingers of course differ somewhat, but the core traits are shared on both sides of the political spectrum.

>>936766860
What core principles might those be?

>>936752957 (OP)
Generally what happens is weak willed people resort to religion as a crutch to get through hard times. You've got it the wrong way around.

>>936766905
Things like being anti-racist.

>>936766905
Corn at the core

>>936767139
But all conservatives are racist white supremacists

>>936767190
even the ones that aren't white?

>>936767190
I wish. Conservatives are often Christcucks who put Christ over race. They would sooner their daughter marry a black christian than a white atheist.

>>936767139
>the right being anti-rascist
Haha good one, but seriously.
What universal principles?

>>936752957 (OP)
Why do my fellow Christians attack atheists.
Why do they refuse to be good examples of love. Instead making demands of those who have justifiable doubts. Which Church should they attend? Should they listen to the Pope, or are the Baptists right? Should they tithe Osteen or Popoff.

OP you are so quick to speak on behalf of Atheists. Were you one, what is your expertise?

Can youoffer information that will guide them to the free gift Christ offered?

The more religious the poorer and less educated. Holds true on the entire planet and clearly shows here again.

But let me guess the unemployed guy knows more about the structure of the universe than the astrophysicist because the unemployed guy read some 2000 year old book half stolen and half written by some guys on drugs (virtually all religions came to be written down with people high as shit; it is documented for most of them).

>>936769921
>>Can youoffer information that will guide them to the free gift Christ offered?
Tell me what is the free gift. In this universe the only currency is (on a biological level) genetics and (on a societal level) currency.

Will Jesus help me spread my genetics and help me provide more currency?

Or will Jesus "listen to me and bless me" (i.e. nothing happens except if I am on drugs)

>>936767750
>What is Darwinism
I can smell your empty bank account from over here.

>>936770624
You will receive big Black cock in your bum bum

>>936770624
>what is the free gift
Eternal life.
John 3:16

Bad form, kicking the dog defending you.

>>936771226
but there is no eternal life, we're mortal, we die, pretty easily

A thread of religious/atheist circle jerking and all I wanna know is
>>936753972
DOES IT SMELL LIKE ROTTEN BISCUITS AND GRAVY?!?!

>>936752957 (OP)
Why does everyone need to believe in your imaginary friend that has never done anything. You would flip a coin and say god makes it land on heads. With 0 proof, and get mad when someone disproves it or as for examples.

>>936775332
If they don't make you believe they go to hell. So everytime you tell 'them naw, not converting' you're dooming them to hell.

Pretty great ain't it?