Thread 937233315

If you buy foreign products instead of domestic you are basically a traitor to your own country. I have zero sympathy for these turn-coats. They deserve to be fucked over. Hard. They're lucky we don't tar and feather their asses like we used to do with similar people back in the good old days.

Anyway, so you don't like paying tariffs? Well, here's a workaround solution which you frankly should be doing anyway out of patriotism: BUY AMERICAN!

>106 bil
>4 trillion in new spending
>net loss of 3894 billion
good job

>>937233315 (OP)
>raised taxes on Americans
>who choose to buy foreign

My taxes aren't raised at all. Doing fine over here.

>>937233315 (OP)
You should probably get rid of the computer or phone you're using to post this thread then, because all the components were made in other countries.

>>937233557
>You should probably get rid of the computer or phone you're using to post this thread then, because all the components were made in other countries.
Trump's tariffs are going to change that. Computer chips are going to be made here in America again, just like they used to be before Demoncraps shipped those jobs over to China.

>>937234353
So get rid of all the foreign tech you own and wait for the tariffs to magically manifest American-made phones so you can buy one.

>>937233315 (OP)
Why do you hate penguins?
Those poor,cute little penguins?
What did they ever do to you?

>>937233315 (OP)
>having a high school knowledge of economics and GDP
Obama gutted American production. Nearly all of the manufacturing has been sent over seas or to Mexico. The tariffs are going to continue killing industries. I took a lot of pride in having a recession proof profession. I've not missed a single hour of past through any of the shit that's happened. Covid, the Suez Canal incident, slumping economy. Gainfully employed the entire time. But these tariffs have had a noticeable impact on business. A lot of our parts come from India, Japan, Germany, and England. The price of basic parts has increased significantly, and their availability is heavily delayed. We've got enough work right now to keep us going through the summer, but the work orders have tapered off to almost nothing. Our stock is decreasing, and revenue is slowing down. It's not time to panic yet, but unless something changes soon, it will be.

>>937235086
That's what you get for doing business with America's enemies.

>>937233526
bought a new TV/monitor lately?

>>937235086
>Our stock is decreasing, and revenue is slowing down.
If your business depends on foreign goods then you deserve to go into a tailspin. Like I said, no sympathy for you traitors. This is karma.

>>937235086
>Obama gutted American production. Nearly all of the manufacturing has been sent over seas or to Mexico.
you're retarded
deindustrialization started long before Obongo, and the worst acceleration of the trend happened when Clinton signed NAFTA in the 90s

>>937233315 (OP)
it's funny how so much information exists and is readily accessible but people choose to remain ignorant. american consumers aren't paying the costs, not yet at least

>>937235129
>>937235392
Gr8 b8 m8 would r8 8/8

>>937235392
china controls 92% of the rare earth market.
you are not making shit without chinsese imports,
you have already lost the game.

>>937234810
>throw away things you already spent money on before this
you're not very bright even by shill standards

>>937235532
You're right, my bad. He fucked coal.

>>937233315 (OP)
American products are shitty and useless AF

>>937235631
>china controls 92% of the rare earth market.
Already being rectified.

https://cowboystatedaily.com/2025/07/11/first-u-s-rare-earth-mine-in-70-years-opens-in-wyoming/

China controls 92% of the rare Earth market because they're pretty much the only ones who are actively mining that stuff. That doesn't mean their country is the only place where these reserves exist. The key is opening mines and getting that stuff. Trump is now making it happen after Demoncraps hamstringed our economy for decades under "woke" environmentalism and other nonsense.
>you are not making shit without chinsese imports,
We are. The mines are coming online as we speak, and there's nothing you can do about it, Chang.
>you have already lost the game.
It hasn't even started yet, retard. Go ahead and make your move to invade Taiwan. See what happens to your shithole country when you get BTFO by the American navy before you even land on the beaches.

>>937236516
>cowboystatedaily
LOL

>>937235870
>American products are shitty and useless AF
You mean Chinese products. They build bridges and walls stuffed full of discarded corn cobs and things like that, and then it just disintegrates the moment any weight is applied to it.

>>937235753
yeah
sorry for saying you're retarded, it's hard to know these days when somebody's shilling or just honestly mistaken

>>937235870
>American products are shitty and useless AF
ALL products nowadays seem to be shitty and useless AF

>>937236587
>genetic logical fallacy
Here's another source for the same thing then. Now what are you going to do to extricate yourself from the corner you're backed into?
https://www.wyomingnewsnow.tv/kcwy/nations-first-rare-earth-mine-opens/article_136d9d8b-7e62-4149-bb62-11ad24c9eaf4.html

>>937233315 (OP)
Lulz glownigger swine lulz death to all faggots hail satan kys NIGGER
>YYMKP2
>JT2WDv

>>937236799
her crotch looks like Frank Zappa after a botched suicide attempt

>>937233526
Very few devices are made in the US that would allow you to write that here. Are you posting this from some low volume single board computer? But even that has semiconductor components made abroad.

>>937236516
>It hasn't even started yet,
Your boy conceded the chip war to China in exchange for increased imports of rare minerals.. You're claiming the race is about to start after everyone's already finished and gone home, while the cleaning staff stare at you with a mix of disgust and pity..

>>937233440
fpbp

>>937238058
>rare minerals.
I already posted a link (two in fact, because you were a faggot and used the genetic logical fallacy on one because you're retarded and didn't like the url I guess) showing how the US has opened up its first rare earth mineral mine in 70 years. If you don't understand why that's a big deal then you're not worth the time discussing anything further.

>>937238494
>i got big angry
you "currently" are importing increased minerals while bragging about future prospects of a single mine like it will somehow offset the 70% of your total imports in any meaningful way..waaay down the line when it's at optimal production, while failing to notice you gave up an entire other market in the process and declared yourself a winner. This is why the world laughs at you.

>>937233440
>>4 trillion in new spending
Lies. The bill includes lots of tax cuts, including making Trump's tax cuts from 2017 that were set to expire permanent. It also has a lot of cuts to Gibbs like Medicaid and Food stamps and adds in a work requirement so that people no longer can get a free ride on this stuff as they could for decades, but are now forced to contribute something back to society.
>>937238183
>fpbp
No. He's lying. This "$4 trillion in debt" claim is based off estimates of what it would amount to by 2034 due to the loss of tax income from the tax cuts it contains. But the reason why this is wrong is because these estimates fail to take into account the effects of the Laffer Curve, which is where when you cut taxes it has the effect of GROWING the economy and actually results in a net tax surplus despite the rate now being lower.

As for actual spending in the bill, there's not a whole lot of that when compared to Demoncrap bills, except for a massive increase in funding for ICE which is necessary because the illegals have got to go. They are parasites leaching off our system and this ICE funding is going to pay for itself over time as these parasites are excised from the country. Again, this is going to have a positive effect on the economy in the long run.

>>937237021
Nowadays "Made in America" usually means "Assembled in America with foreign components"

holy crap, it's gotten so bad that they're paying the shills to promote the tariffs

> saged

>>937239254
another trick they use is manufacturing goods in American Samoa
because it's an American territory, goods made there can carry a made in America mark, but wages are lower; the minimum wage in the garment industry in AS, for example, is $5.78/hr.

>If you buy foreign products instead of domestic you are basically a traitor to your own country
What's the American equivalent to Genshin Impact, Honkai Star Rail, and Zenless Zone Zero?
What's an American producer of sex dolls that aren't butt ugly?

>>937233440
/thread

>>937233440
>>937238183
>>937242392
Samefag. And was refuted here:
>>937239005

>>937242474
wrong

>>937239005
>. But the reason why this is wrong is because these estimates fail to take into account the effects of the Laffer Curve, which is where when you cut taxes it has the effect of GROWING the economy and actually results in a net tax surplus despite the rate
lol, lmao

>>937243169
It was totally growing the economy faster! lol, lmao

>>937233315 (OP)
Navarro lies like a jew

>>937233315 (OP)
This must be bait. Even MAGA isn't this stupid.

>>937235559
>export prices
posted unironicaly? now try posting retail prices after April

>>937235086
Obamna!
Black man root of all ebil!
Muh reeee!

>>937243308
trust the plan

>>937233315 (OP)
American bananas & coffee are the best in the world !!! MAGA !!!

>>937243669
fake news, you just don't understand that the chart is really upside down and biden bad!

>>937242603
>wrong
Easily shopped. But regardless, you still do not address the refutation.

>>937243669
You can't make an omelette without breaking some eggs.

>>937243682
>American bananas & coffee are the best in the world !!! MAGA !!!
This anon never heard of Hawaii, Flordia, and Puerto Rico.

>>937244236
Do you have something against bananas & coffee from Hawaii, Florida & PR ?

>>937244236
Floridian bananas are the best !!! MAGA !!!

>>937243682
>American bananas & coffee are the best in the world !!! MAGA !!!
This, but unironically.
https://futurism.com/this-molecular-coffee-is-brewed-entirely-without-beans

On that note, I just want to further state how you Leftard faggots normally love science. But in this case this would involve having some pride in the accomplishment of your country, so for that reason you would probably hate this despite it being science. Oh well.

Anyway, this is not only good because it would cut out the third world middle-man and result in cheaper domestic coffee produced in laboratories, but it would also be great for the environment because coffee production involves a lot of deforestation to make room for coffee plantations. But if you can just do it in a lab then it saves the rainforests, you know? I see nothing but a win here all around. The only ones who would lose would be the third worlders who won't be gouging American consumers with their high coffee prices any longer.

>>937244191
It's not shopped, you were wrong. You will always be wrong, especially if you try to say tax cuts pay for themselves. TCJA didn't even meet the revenue estimates of the CBO projections, unless you want to include the spike in inflation.

America doesn't produce anything except fat niggers.

>>937244546
>But it's unclear what it's actually made of
>Kickstarter
You're all easy marks MAGA !!!

>>937246293
But they're the best fat niggers :/

>>937239005
>No. He's lying. This "$4 trillion in debt" claim is based off estimates of what it would amount to by 2034 due to the loss of tax income from the tax cuts it contains. But the reason why this is wrong is because these estimates fail to take into account the effects of the Laffer Curve, which is where when you cut taxes it has the effect of GROWING the economy and actually results in a net tax surplus despite the rate now being lower.
Supply side was disproved two decades ago. Read a fucking book once in a while.

>>937244546
>What to expect: Instead of coffee beans, Seattle-based Atomo Coffee uses millet, guava, fructose, date seeds, ramon seeds, pea protein, baking soda, sunflower seeds, lemon and fenugreek to get a coffee-like flavor.
hmmm so is all of that from inside the US?

>>937235712
Okay, then sell them. It's just kinda hypocritical to demonize foreign products while actively benefiting from that system.

>>937246501
Even if it weren't a fantasy
>estimates of revenue-maximizing income tax rates have varied widely, with a mid-range of around 70%

>>937246586
Plus it isn't coffee

>>937246698
Well yeah, plus to even get close to the production levels of coffee, you'd still have to tear down rainforests to produce it.

Traiffs are literally just import tax, they are not a new thing.

You're cheering for an increase in import tax, which is fucking stupid.

It's the equivalent of saying "Hurray, the government is making it more expensive for me to buy something that is extremely difficult or impossible to manufacturer domestically".

Absolute brainlet.

>>937246842
Other countries pay for the tariffs

Honestly, you faggots are going to be the first to be mobbed and eaten alive when the system collapses. You absolute brain dead fucking retards.

>>937246501
>Read a fucking book once in a while.
I did. This one. And you should too.

>>937246978
Tell me about the mechanism used to collect tariffs from other countries

>>937247709
>Laffer
laughing

>>937233315 (OP)
Yes, democrats really are this fucking ignorant.

>>937247779
They give money if they want their products in the US

>>937247840
Where do other countries give the money? Where can I find forms to give the US tariff money so my country's products can enter the US?
Importers pay tariffs dumbfuck

>>937248043
Stop lying. Trump has already stated the truth about it.

>>937248078
Didn't realize you were larping maga. Do you wear a diaper or eat glue or something when you do this?

>>937248204
What's a larp? Listen here you fucking lib, Trump is the most honest president and politician we've ever had. I would trust him over some pink haired freak any day.

>>937248269
infinite keks

>>937247709
I read this one. You should, too.

Republicans didn't invent an alternative economic system dependent on billionaires dodging taxes. You read partisan bullshit.

Hell, let's skip ahead to the part where you didn't read the book and cited it simply because you saw it on a partisan book list.