Loli thread. Loli edition.

kiss the loli

ITT: sex, with children.

>>937358632
Sauce? It looks familiar...

>>937359422
i don't have a grip i just hold it in my hands and when it's full i'll put it down again

Пeдoфилы здoхнитe yжe вы мeня бecитe

>>937358632
normalize kissing little girls

>>937361532
A мoжeт ты хoчeшь eщe пoцeлoвaть тpoтyap? A мoжeт ты хoчeшь чтoб я тeбe oтpeзaлa твoи гyбы? A мoжeт ты хoчeшь в тюpьмy и чтoб тoлпa нeгpoв изнacилoвaли тeбя? Tы мepзкий пeдoфил нaдeюcь ты yмpeшь в cтpaшный мyкaх <3

>>937359672
My Lovey Dovey Daily Life with a Growing Girl

>>937359370
Yes please . Do I need to fill out a requisition form or something, or do I just take what lolis I want?

>>937361532
I'm doing my part at least irl

>>937362372
Find a cute irl loli you find appealing and then have at it, basically

>>937362431
Ok, I have some in mind already

What the fuck... are you completely sick? You are fucking pedophiles, I hope you will be locked up in prison 0_0

>>937362347
normalize little girls wearing microbikinis

>>937362312
I don't get it? Ist that the alphabet people flag?

>>937362312
>>937362347
Is this a loli flag or something?

polka-dot panties look extra sniffable

>>937362737
Pedo flag

>>937362501
Excellent. Good luck, be careful buddy

>>937362784
Fuck, loli panties are my weakness. I'd do unspeakable things for a fresh, still warm pair.

>>937362737
>>937362667

>>937362817
That a legit thing now?

>>937362431
expect some visitors afterwards

>>937363672
I've been expecting them for about 8 years now and nothing has happened so, oh well i guess

>>937363662
Sadly, it's been a thing for more than a decade.

>>937363760
idk if ur larping but if ur not im surprised u had the balls to go for it in the first place

>>937363770
Do these people fly physical flags like that? Wouldn't that cause vigilantes?

>>937359370
You should be ashamed of yourself.

>>937363917
Well, i'm not

>>937363904
They aren't used as physical flags, at least not publicly. I've only seen them used by some online accounts as pfp/background on Twitter ever since 2010, and added as 3rd party edits to stolen lolisho artworks about a year ago. You might not have seen it, because such accounts usually end up breaking rules and get removed, and the 3rd party edits always ended up being taken down due to the original author's request, which happened so often, they just got downright banned.

>>937363871
I genuinely do prefer if people believe, and encourage others to believe, that i'm larping because it protects people like me who genuinely do have and seek out irl experiences to later talk about them. Makes it easier for me to avoid any actual consequences ofc. Anyway, to answer your question, it depends a lot on the individual kid and other circumstances. When you say "go for it" i take that to mean putting myself in the most favorable situations to get myself towards a specific outcome. When it comes to things like kissing there's obviously a big difference between french kissing an 8 year old who has no experience with that, vs being just receptive to a little peck on the cheek or even the lips, if lucky enough. That's more what i meant anyway. From there you can try to escalate but each escalation or attempt at that increases the risk, ofc. If people see you as a good person who is just good with kids, girls especially, then there are a lot of people (more than you'd think but less than you'd want) who will just straight up laugh it off, dismiss it and sort of just go "haha, aw that's cute, she likes you".

Anybody know any good sites for loli videos??

Consensually taking a cute little loli's v would be so much fun

>>937363917
S.O.?

You know you're not anonymous here right? Website operator knows your IP, which has geographic location data, and they can and will hand that over to local police.

>>937364624
and yet still posts loli anyway

>>937365129
and yet you still post loli anyway haha

>>937364624
so basically a girl pecked u on the cheek one time. thats not that same lmao.

>>937365295
Loli is kosher as far as police is concerned.

>>937365348
ive seen some arrests over loli

>>937365374
I haven't. If they're not add on charges for other crimes, it is extremely rare, and most likely unconstitutional because of the first amendment, so prosecutors don't bother with a long complicated case they're likely to lose and explicitly void whatever statue there is. Don't talk to the police and get a lawyer immediately, they'll back off, loli is not worth that hassle.

>>937365374
I love that vid where the chud is being questioned by the police and asks, "uh.. do you know what loli is?"

>>937365539
lmaooooo thats exactly what i was thinking of. with the "dick the birthday boy" shirt on

>>937365644
The very same. I did feel bad for his grandpa. The way he breaks down at the end is really sad.

>>937365695
yeah its pretty heart-breaking. His parents both just wanted to live a normal life "the only thing I do on my phone is call my wife."

>>937365539
Without knowing the case, he was probably talking to some vigilante pretending to be a 15 year old nimpho girl from California. That's usually how they get those turbo autists to prison.

>>937366061
he got reported sharing ai CP in a telgram chat or something. or snapchat idr

>>937366061
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whACbBa5pd0

its here if you wanna watch it..

>>937366110
If you're generating photorealistic AI, that's more likely to get you in trouble. It'd still be precedent generating so I'd like to see if they actually charged him with anything though.

>>937366177
i believe he did but idk. anyway this is why whenevr i see that fox guy in the AI Degen thread post im like "this guys days are numbered" lmao. the content the guy in the video was sharing was desribed as "video game style videos of kids" but if you hang around the ai degen threads ull know his shit is/was way fucking worse

>>937366177
Here's the case in a more useful format
https://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local/florida-man-charged-with-having-1000-ai-generated-images-of-child-porn/3545848/
He was charged with obscenity. Doesn't seem to have been charged with anything else. He should definitely get a lawyer, there's a bunch that will take this case pro-bono all the way to the supreme court.

>>937366362
different fucking case dipshit but yeah still applies

>>937366476
Videos of an arrest are useless, that's 40 minutes of pretty much no information. Try learning to read next time.

>>937366572
nigger what you posted was a different case completely and theres enough info in the video + u get to see the "uh.. do you know what loli is?" part. are u fucking retarded. this isnt about me being able to read

>>937366662
I know. I'm not going to spend more than 3 minutes fact checking some garbage format. If you're going to be that lazy, I'm going to be lazy as well.

>>937366719
This seems to be the actual case
https://florida.arrests.org/Arrests/Phillip_McCorkle_59987192/
No charges known, seems that all charges were dropped. Probably because the AI he generated were "video game style". The other dude probably generated photorealistic stuff I'm guessing, he's more out of luck.

>>937365129
>>937365374
>>937366362
>>937366790
lol murica

>>937366719
you guys really like fucking lil girls?

>>937366790
https://recentlybooked.com/FL/IndianRiver/Phillip-McCorkle~30_133211
Oh, it seems he was actually charged. Obscenity only. Obscenity is a misdemeanor so he's looking at a few months at most. It's also extremely rare, there have only been a handful of convictions on the past couple of decades. Obscenity applies to any sort of porn btw, not only child porn, and people have been jailed for drawing cartoons of scat and bestiality, and for porn with adult women. He should definitely contest the charges, but I honestly see an obscenity conviction as a badge of honor.
>>937366990
Murica indeed lol, land of the free, am I right.

>>937368099
least u guys dont live in shithole England

>>937364706
sauce

>>937358268
Taiga looks like one of my former coworkers holy shit it hurts.

>>937362501
Excellent. Best of luck then, and be careful, buddy

>>937363672
i've been expecting them for some 8 years now, lol

>>937363917
Well, i'm not

>itt: child sex

>>937365338
lol, no no, done more than that but i was just saying that "kissing" can mean either that, in the mildest sense and full on making out in the most explicit sense. and that one is obviously easier to get away with and less risky

>>937365348
depends on the state/country, unfortunately. i'm obviously for keeping it legalized, even realistic ai gens.

>>937368010
oh yes, genuinely, can recommend

Whats everyone's fave age?
Or fave loli?

>>937373864
12-14. Riku in Made in Abyss is a lovely thing

>>937373864
12-16 and Maylene from Pokemon
>>937373971
Cute!

>>937373864
8-10

More Ai tots plz

>>937374264
What you wanna see? Make a /r/

>>937373864
3-8 but anything cute :)

>>937373864
9-13, Tanner 2-3 is when girls peak.
>fave loli
Difficult to say, but Sasha-chan springs to mind.

Anyone encounter a lolicon IRL? Do they fit the stereotype?

Why do you guys like loli?

>>937376325
idk. Why do some people like dudes?

>>937376325
You know that fascination you get when you fall in love with a girl? I've not truly experienced that. I did briefly experience this by getting catfished before though, but that was painfully broken.

Anyway, the feeling I get when I obsess over a fetish gives me a similar sense in my mind (and balls). It could be any kink, really. I think in this sense the loli is like a fantasy I had as a kid. I remember thinking other girls my age at that time were very cute. And now it feels like I missed out on that and will never get to experience it ever. So it's a fantasy.

Incest also could work in that case, and I've fluctuated between those sorts of fetishes. I think it's the more extreme the better because you have to suspend even MORE disbelief to continue down the rabbit hole and that's easier to quantify when you feel the "turn away", where you kinda hate yourself for wanting to continue, that gives you an obvious direction on where to go to further suspend disbelief and descend the rabbit hole into escapism.

Really I'm chasing my own dragon.

Some day I do hope to experience true love, of course. I think most of us here do. Sometimes it feels hopeless. Hopefully someday it happens.

i want to snuggle and do lewd things with Megumin~

>>937376325
Little girls are cute. That's literally all there is to it. Been attracted to little girls since I was a little boy, and little girls never stopped being cute.

>>937376860
True love is an experience everyone should have, I wish you the best, anon.

>>937377106
Thank you!

Yea that is a part of it also. It would be like if as you grew up you found out that liking hamsters was only a thing that children were allowed to do, and if you wanted a hamster past the age of 16 you must be deranged.

There would probably be internet forums online that would have hamster posting.

>>937377106
i love it! loli is my favourite too!
what anime do you recommend for loli characters? i'm just looking for some good recommendations

>>937377106
can you help a loli out? do you think you could give this loli to a better position in life? if so, contact a seer and ask them to change this loli's destiny.

>>937377610
The seer could not afford the required goat entrails, not in this economy.

>>937377721
This makes me regret not starting a babysitting service in my twenties.

>>937377339
>There would probably be internet forums online that would have hamster posting.
I chuckled
>>937377579
I don't. Loli is best expressed in print, and to that end I recommend Implicity 1+2 by Higashiyama Show.

how anons are going tonight?~

wheres pookie at /sM8KufD

I want a tan tomboy lolita to wrung me dry

thats the kind of thing who have the most stamina
you wont survive

>>937378915
I want genetically engineered catgirls and a loliwife.
>>937378069
Not great, I should be sleeping but next door is playing music.

>>937379196
But what a way to go. That tight little cunny being the last thing you taste as her scent fills your mind and and your vision fades as you suffocate.

>>937379196
>tfw no tanned loli to use as a urinal
Truly life is a tragedy.

>>937363917
wtf this is traced from brooke shields

>>937379198
damn that suck... well you have cunny at least ^^
if you still want to sleep there the U technique
you put a dictionary or a big thing like that next of your head stuck your pillow against the wall and on the dictionnary so it wrap your head (making a big U , so the name)
i can draw you a doodle if you need better explanations ^^
its kinda efficient i was using that against loud roommates
or you can knock and ask to decrease the volume ofc

>>937379473
Not bad but it should be in her mouth

>>937376325
i have crippling depression and osteoporosis. The doctor diagnosed me at stage 4 lolicon. It's terminal

>>937379800
Post your favorite please

>>937379844
probably louise. I liked this shitty anime with the tsundere loli. Real shame the author died

>>937379966
Not bad, I like Shana

>>937379475
It'd be cooler if it was, unfortunately it's just AI genned.
>>937379596
>if you still want to sleep there the U technique
Thanks, but once I'm tired enough I'll sleep through a car bomb in my room.
>or you can knock and ask to decrease the volume ofc
I am also a noisy neighbour, so we have an informal agreement not to go after each other for it, and I'd like to be able to crank it late night from time to time.
>>937379603
Very true. Such a shame there's so little porn of lolis drinking piss.

>>937380117
>It'd be cooler if it was
it really was.

>>937380117
>once I'm tired enough I'll sleep through a car bomb in my room.
let's test this out

>>937380203
No, Brooke Shields didn't have hips and proportions like that, it's an image-to-image AI gen using that image of Brooke Shields from that shoot.

>>937380117
Any hole, for anything really

>>937379844
MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEGUMIIIIINN!!!!
aehm..
sry
>>937379966
sad, but at least the end was great ! in most of anime even ecchi the most far they go is like a light kiss, here they marry and all<3
also here, a cat fights between megu and louise bc why not
https://nhentai.net/g/541335/

>>937380107
FOR ME ITS.. but you already know ig

>>937380117
>Thanks, but once I'm tired enough I'll sleep through a car bomb in my room.
that doesnt sound very healthy but nice to hear kek
a quick fap may help to release the tension
>I am also a noisy neighbour, so we have an informal agreement not to go after each other for it, and I'd like to be able to crank it late night from time to time.
a gentlemen agreement..?
neat well now you have a good reason next night to make some noise at least

>>937380330
brooke shields is ugly. Kind of did her a service

>>937380370
I don't hate her but I guess she's popular for the memes

>>937380330
are pushing me to post it to prove you wrong?

>>937380407
I'd rather the thread wasn't nuked, but do you know the difference between a trace and an image-to-image AI generation?
>>937380371
Too much makeup.

>>937370771
omg

My neighbour has shut up now so this is the last one from me, goodnight, lolibros.

>>937381130
Using her before and after the sports event

>>937381130
Good lord, tanned lolis are something else.

>>937381441
Nothing like tan lines

Babysitting sloppa

>>937381551
You're telling me. It's gorgeous

>>937381576

>>937381591
Yeah, I like the micro bikini lines

>>937381576
>>937381619
Link now you fucking bitch

>>937381632
Drooling over the thought.

I love just how it hits the right spot. Highlighting their best features.
>>937381619
Can't say no to cream

>>937381709
Not a lot of art like that though

>>937381775
True. In a way makes the art you do find sweeter in a sense.

>>937383394
I don't mind the mess

>>937362364
Sre there more of this? Can't find the source anywhere

>>937373864
0-5

>>937374264
Got you

i get like 52 matches from guys and when i get 1 match from a woman it's a nigger that asks what my sexual orientation is first thing and calls me a girl. What does this mean and what are the political implications?

>>937362347
Fictional is okay but don't use the pedo flag. That means you like real children.

>>937375027
You guys talk about it like real children, but it doesn't matter the lolis age because they can look however.

>>937373864
Whatever looks cute

>>937386932
I don't think they care. 50% of these guys are pedos.

>>937387296
More like 25%, but ok

>>937387296
>>937387344
*100%

>>937387590
debatable

>>937387590
You're one of them aren't you???
You same guys lurk in the Tsukiko threads and goon.

>>937387590

>>937380330
>>937380407
I love brooke

>>937362542

https://streamable.com/1t2va4

>>937380527
Holy shit more of this? Pls

>>937390650
It's either part of the Tiny Evil series or from the same author. It's up on nhentai.

>>937358257 (OP)
Stupid fkn pedos

>>937391326
Think of the pixels! Oh the horrors!

Alexi really likes to draw big tits on lolis, but personally I prefer their flat chested lolis. Especially when they're deepthroating a thick creamy cock.

>>937381576
>>937381619
wtf? When did they remake this? I've been playing the OG for years

Spiderman? In my loli thread? Fuck it. Might have a few images for *your* kind.

You see, Spiderman. The loli characters from your various multiverses are fair game for rule 34 artists. Therefore, when you decide to interrupt our loli threads with your presence, you should expect those very girls you love dearly to be made into porn meat.

>>937391499
>>937388510

Look, I'm all in favor of mocking those who have meltdowns about drawings alone, but this thread had people unironically admitting to exploiting real minors and encouraging others to do the same. In such a situation, this kind of mockery appears more like a deception strategy than anything else.

what happened to the greentext anon who bought his daughter a thong and then started replacing her underwear with them? He was thinking of buying the thong bikini for summer

>>937394476
He was luring out actual pedos to see who would encourage him anon…

>>937358257 (OP)
>Loli thread
Is there really anything better to do on a saturday afternoon?


Fucking larpers, the lot of you

Gonna head to bed, but all of y'all who posted lolis deserve a hug goodnight.

>>937394574
>to see who would encourage him
Why?

>>937394574
Would somebody really do that? Go on the internet and tell lies?

>>937390379
Thanks Spiderman!

>>937394290
Noooooo Venom!

There is literally nothing wrong with being a pedophile.

>>937368186
they let pedophiles walk away with slaps on the wrist there unfortunately, but at least I'm pretty sure lolicons won't get too much there

>>937398309
Except the whole child abuse thing of course.

>>937398531
Attraction =/= abuse
I've not abused a child my entire adult life.

>>937398942
So you abused a minor before you became an adult?

>>937399153
That would be telling.

remember when spiderman was only posted on wincest threads?

>>937358257 (OP)

>>937399902

>>937398942
Neither have i. I've had sex with a few kids but i've never harmed or abused anyone since sex isn't inherently abusive even when done with minors. Only the legal definition argues for that but every other one fails to make a compelling case for that viewpoint thankfully

>>937398309
True. There is nothing wrong with acting on it either if you do it in a healthy responsible way, which is difficult but not impossible

>>937391587
I like this one i laughed a little bit

>>937399316
I love loli microbikini

>>937399902
typical situation with anon-kun and his niece

>>937399913
.Uh oh

>>937400832
>Kek
>Yandere
>Loli
>Yo, /s/! It's about time we get to have actual threads about Loli-related stuff!
>Yandere Loli thread.

>>937393115
I started working on it literally yesterday

Sometimes we have About This OP.

Hii 15m heree anyonee to talkk orr feedd mee lolisss? Or anyythingg

Sess

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6aa80b8e2db5ad4026875f
97c40b9ef121c7fa07692a

Daily reminder that real life sex with real life kids is based

>>937407066
nigger post ATF page I need this

>>937399902
>>937399913
Sauce me up bro

>>937362613
Why do people make bikinis for little girls? They don't have developed breasts, little girls' chests are the same as boys chests. Its covering up something that doesn't exist yet. I can maybe understand it as an "aesthetic" choice but its unnecessary. They can just wear swim-trunks as boys do and its more comfortable too.

>>937409654
there is a thing called dwarves

>>937403704
That girl is going to lose her mind on that sybian

>>937409862
N/A

(sorry, but it's the first time I'm typing on 4chan)

Could someone tell me who the artist is?

more of this plz

>>937410616
You don't want to know
(Captcha: STOGP)

Best threadz on /b/

>>937410616
You don't know how to search by image or what?

Grok queen but little yummmmy

>>937413891
I love loli lingerie

>>937414135
My favorite too! How do you like this sassy little goon queen?

E

What's Happening to Chocolate loli and Gothic Loli

>>937410616
The artist's name is literally written in the bottom right corner of your image.
[spoiler]村井蓮司 [murai renji][/spoiler]

>>937413891
>>937414353
>>937414457
>>937410616
BBC magnets

>>937381576
>>937381619
game name?

>>937381130
This picture. I love this tan line but it's so uncommon or just hard to search for.

Loli porn ruined me, now I can't see adult women as females. Every time I see them, especially from the back, I can only see how broad and masculine their shoulders are, nothing like a cute little girl

torture little girls

hurt little girls

>>937398520
its extremely oppressive here

>>937373864
0-3
The younger the better
Want to cum in their cute tiny chubby baby cunny

slow thread is slow

REPLY TO THIS POST AND CLAIM YOUR WIFE

JADE = CLAIMED

>>937419363
I think after so many things in the past 3 years has made the loli threads not as lively as they once were.
Still gives me time to post cute things.

>>937419385
MEGUMIN, REPORTING IN

>>937419530
well as long theres always a loli thread, thats the most important
less intresting, but still good

>>937373864
hatkid my beloved

>>937419385
>>937420136
Curious, do you stay monogamous with your waifu?
A rando of mine seems to be losing his faith.
I think Loli threads will be around for a while but I see 4chan bleeding out. I think it is coming...

>>937420419
Doomposting will only kill these threads faster

Just saying what I've seen in the past 6 years.

>>937418037
Based

>>937420419
Megu will always be Megu~
>A rando of mine seems to be losing his faith.
we live strange times for sure...
also its a very superficial age, the waifus comes and past so quickly....
>I think Loli threads will be around for a while but I see 4chan bleeding out. I think it is coming...
true sadly, but we are strong. we wont leave. idk for the others but as long i'll have internet i'll stay on /b/
and who know? maybe if all the the zoomers leave this place will turn back like in the good old times ^^ (but i doubt it...)

>>937421183
Well I still have been popping into the threads randomly again.
Mostly seeing who is still around I guess.
Sometimes you never know who you might find.

I think ATF poached a lot of anons away from here, what do you think? It is a good site in all fairness.

>>937421677
I haven't lurked too much on ATF. I think their booru got fucked the last time I remember.
I think discord is where all the anons went.

>>937421642
>Mostly seeing who is still around I guess
im the last one every other avafags left
>Sometimes you never know who you might find.
lemme guess.... YOU ! we found you~

Desperately horny, please help me get off to anime lolis.
I need to stroke my below average cock for smoll.

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>>937423017

>>937362312
>>937362347
Where did this flag design come from?

>>937399796
god damn anon...

>>937386268
>>937386343
>>937386395
Good lord~

>>937410616
Looks like someone trying to copy Range Murata style.

>>937427286
Sakura a cutie

Bump

>>937427286
>>937428414
Hell yeah

>>937427655
He's also accused of tracing child models and was hounded off the internet if I recall, hence the reluctance to name the artist. I've just forgotten his name and I'm too drunk to bother finding it out.

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>>937427286
Where's the rest without the paywall?

>>937410616
>>937410804
>>937429830
Murai-Renji
https://exhentai.org/g/2094866/66514afca7/

reading higurashi made me a lolicon... rika and satoko are too sexy to resist, is there any salvation for me?

nnghhh goddd theyre so hot nothing makes me hornier than these little brats...im drooling.

loli rape loli rape loli rape. im srry for flooding the board. all of my friends are against lolicons, i have nowhere to vent my feelings...

>>937431920
Man I've never worked out exhentai. Always got lazy and went somewhere else instead of bothering

Is kinda like one of those things where you gotta be invited, like the porn emporium?

>>937432844
Nigga just googlefu it, it's not hard. It's also a pretty good barrier to entry so if you can't find out how to get past SadPanda you're just NGMI

>>937432905
I dont even get the sadpanda, its just a blank page

>>937432905
Hey its helpful to know that it only works in certain countries retard

I be doing everything correct, but that shit was rigged from start

I'd like to eat your hearts out with a glass of wine and drink your blood on the side, even dip a bit of bread in it. I want to kill.

yfw
> Loli you were dream perving on turns the tables on your first encounter in the real world
> Seduces you, thumbs your clit, and then slams a tiny delicate fist right up your skirt after you climbed through her window to try and scare her straight.

She's looking at you sis. What you gunna do? just stand there and let the brat get the upper hand?

>>937432844
You have to go to e hentai. Then register on the forum. Log in. Then ex should work. Before you start all this, clear your cache etc. At least that's how I remember.

>>937432905
Hurrdurr muh sikrit klub...

>>937433924
Rather:
>Having a smug brat who puts you in chastity so you don't hurt her.

>giving attention to leaks
Andy is not exactly the wisest, typical

>>937434543
forgot to post

oh well

oh right image cap
i'll catbox them if anyone's interested in the rest

>>937434598
yes please

>>937434598
Are we talking about him being only attracted to kids, or did he go beyond just attraction?

>>937434638
Here you go
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>>937434675
No he just got pissy over an anon leaking his stuff on /delicious/ while insulting him. Not the first time he got into a pissing match.

>>937434697
K, I was afraid I would have to add him to my shitlist. Thanks for the clarification.

>>937434675
The leaker even got it wrong, lilandy is an ephebophile, not a hebephile but he does like the body type of hebes. Whether he has any irl experience is a complete coin toss to me anyway, i just like his work and the fact that he is to some extent in touch with his consumer base (even if most of his consumer base likes them younger than he does).

Hung shotas too but that's neither here nor there.

>>937434733
For just being a hebephile(ephebophile actually) or for actually doing things? Which artists do you know have done things then? lilandy doesnt have any irl experience that i know of. jcm2 is another good artist but he is in fact a hebephile unlike lilandy. to me it wouldn't matter that much, it doesnt even with what i know so how come it matters to you?

>>937434697
and the insults were wrong anyway, he's an ephebophile not hebephile so the leaker is doing it out of spite but the spiteful reason is incorrect, lul. i mean plenty of artists get into drama because they're not the most well adjusted people and of course it also makes sense that any smaller creator wouldn't want their stuff leaked but it is inevitable ofc. i really don't think the leaker will care all that much

Since this chat is still going, I might as well ask:

>>937381619
>>937381576
>>937416199


For the love of god, WHERE CAN WE FIND THIS????

>>937434790
For engaging inappropriately with anyone under 18. Feelings alone don't concern me, especially considering most ppl in this space think of themselves as attracted to minors only because they enjoy cartoons, and otherwise have no feelings for real minors. There were a few smaller artists (mostly 3D and realistic AI ones) who were exposed for having and using materials with real kids (one mentioned in this thread, I prefer not to mention the others for obvious reasons).

>>937434967
I don't know the name of that Sonic character but I'm pretty sure I saw a thread on some forum with this game as the focus.
Game was called "Babysit [name of the character]
I think

>>937435005
what forum would it be? I looked in the last day around and didn't find any promising leads.

The character name is Cream the Rabbit.

You saying the game was called "Babysit Cream the Rabbit"?

only avalonx is confirmed creator, but this seems to be made by someone else entirely.

>>937434973
So a 19 year old on their first day of being 19 and a 17 year old on their last day of being 17 would count as pedophilia or "inappropriate" to you? Americans have a really weird view on this. I guess it's hard to relate when i come from a country with aoc at 14 but eh. Most people here seem to have those feelings but then again feelings are just feelings and, again, here in europe we have much lower aoc so i don't get why americans think they have the objectively correct take on these things.
Oh uh Murai Renji i believe, yes those were traced but it wasn't from phild corn but rather some stock photos with prepubescent girls, if i remember correctly.

>>937435005
if we get disconnected I'll begin a new thread inquiry on this, look for that.

>>937435080
>So a 19 year old on their first day of being 19 and a 17 year old on their last day of being 17 would count as pedophilia or "inappropriate" to you?
Please, don't jump to silly assumptions about me. I know there are a lot of people who get crazy emotional about such topics, but I'm not one of them. Legal systems are formal and bureaucratic, far from perfect, so they need to have some static number here and there, and then judges decide on what to do about edge cases like the one you mention. In practice, judges simply throw them out in the rare instances they are reported. I know of men and women who failed dating adults because of how abusive and manipulative they were to their partners. Some of them tried to date the youngest person legally allowed simply because it was easier for them to effectively lie, manipulate, and force them into submission. I don't want such people to have legal access to people who can hardly live on their own because they are still in school and wouldn't get a job. I have no problem if minors date their peers, since they are at the same level, equally naive, inexperienced, and limited. At 18, people are at least somewhat capable of independence, so in a worst-case scenario, they can at least break up with any abusive partner. I would prefer something like Romeo and Juliet laws, but from what I know, it's difficult to implement them in most places.
>Americans have a really weird view on this.
I'm not American. I was born in a country with an AoC of 16 in the EU.
>Oh uh Murai Renji i believe, yes those were traced but it wasn't from phild corn but rather some stock photos with prepubescent girls, if i remember correctly.
I wasn't sure myself, so I put him on my shitlist just in case.

>>937435415
It's not a silly assumption, it the natural conclusion for arguing for the aoc being at 18 and also arguing for 18 to be this magical cut off point where someone becomes an adult in the eyes of society. In the eyes of society we should give people way more agency before 18 but i do agree that there has to be some cut off point, however that needs to be before 18, i think. I also cannot support romeo and juliet laws based on this but instead other laws that might protect vulnerable, freshly legal (14) people from highly manipulative older people. We do this best by legislating around behaviours and actions of those manipulative people. In my experience not only do we prefer age gaps from about 3-5 years but relationships tend to have better outcomes for it so dating your own age isn't this golden standard we think it is. People should be able to make their own choices regarding that.
One can still be born in the EU but unfortunately adopt a very puritan christian mindset regarding this topic, which comes from American culture.
So which other artists are on the shitlist? Johnston Blackhorse i'd wager.

>>937435005
>>937435029
If I remember right there is a game on InkBunny called Babysitting Cream. The art style is very different last I saw many years ago. I remember because it was just that bad. They somehow unintentionally made a cute looking character look disturbing.

>>937435548
Exclude youth pregnancy and society ceases to have a moral leg to stand on that does not already apply to all sex. Age based rules are stupid regardless of the topic. Even more so when exceptions exist. The solution is simple. Turn the legislated taboo into regardless of voluntary status until they are at the point of making their own life decisions don't cum inside the baby maker unless infertility is certain. If they can't decide their own life path they damn sure can't manage the life of another.

>>937435548
You assumed I take offence with peers on the border of 18 dating each other when I never proposed any such thing. How would you take me making the same assumption about you, but with 13-year-olds and 14-year-olds being used instead? Most likely as silly.
>i do agree that there has to be some cut off point, however that needs to be before 18
Okay, but what is your precise reason to change one "magical cut off point" to another of a lower number? AoC started low and was increased in all places. In most cases, it's currently 16, but some have increased it to 18 past years. There are many reasons for it since laws do evolve and are dependent on context. Your country (Germany, I guess) is an exception, but from what I heard, some additional laws don't allow adults to date kids this young in practice.
>We do this best by legislating around behaviours and actions of those manipulative people.
And how do you propose we identify that legally, such that such laws won't be misused against innocent people?
>One can still be born in the EU but unfortunately adopt a very puritan christian mindset regarding this topic, which comes from American culture.
American Christian culture comes from the EU. Also, my position isn't rooted in puritanism. I've seen minors taken advantage of by significantly older adults in my life. It's one of those things you need to see by yourself to recognize it's a problem. What you argue for is not refined, and you seem to speak from how you feel about the idealized hypothetical, rather than from how such relationships are in practice. Let the teens date other teens, instead of forcing them to compete with adults who might want to turn them into personal sex toys instead.
>So which other artists are on the shitlist
I prefer not to mention the names, because I don't want to help people find their works (some of which are based on CP and depict real kids) in case somebody reuploads them somewhere.

>>937435722
Hell, with male birth control becoming a thing then yeah i would be in favor of that. Basically, let the aoc be quite low but then you cannot have sex if not using some sort of birth control and if you do get pregnant we'll have you pay for abortion, adoption possibly or anything like that

>>937435722
>Exclude youth pregnancy and society ceases to have a moral leg to stand on that does not already apply to all sex
But heterosexual couples are the majority of couples.
>Age based rules are stupid regardless of the topic.
It's stupid, but it works. Things are a certain way, not always because they are the best option, but simply because there are no better alternatives.
>Even more so when exceptions exist.
There are exceptions to every rule. But turning an exception into a rule is a bigger mistake than the current approach. This legal rule is meant to protect the majority, and the cost of sexual gratification of some adults is a small cost compared to giving people a legal tool to respond with in case of abuse adult trying to take advantage of a less developed minor. Besides, teenagers are cringy and boring, so it's not a big deal.
>The solution is simple.
We don't live in an ideal world. Even among adults, abuse happens, accidental pregnancies happen, and misuse happens. But adult victims at least can react to that, have the mental fortitude to not let their fear of retaliation from an abusive partner silence them. The abuse of minors is notoriously underreported by minors themselves for this and other reasons.

It's easy to go through any system and point out inconsistencies in it, or to find exceptions that then can be compared to an idealized alternative that was already considered, but wouldn't ever work. You might read up on the Nirvana Fallacy anon. The world is more complicated, and smarter people than both of us have thought about this topic. Religious puritans are loud, but they aren't the majority making decisions, and at least where I was born, most of them were fine with getting AoC lower than it still is.

>>937435807
This seems to be the logical assumption from your current arguments, yes and no you would not be silly for assuming the reverse because i do want to allow for that to happen, just not encourage it strictly speaking or make it the norm but allow for it to happen in the best possible circumstances.
Because all of the data i've seen so far that compares countries with low aoc to higher aoc, seem to suggest that higher aoc does not contribute sufficiently to tackle the issues it claims to want to tackle. It seems that there are much better ways to approach those problems while also keeping the aoc low (no not germany, since im talking about no upper limit).
It's a moral panic and misinformation, partly, that contributes to raised aoc. I think the evolution of laws would look different, as in, the aoc stays the same but all of the potential abusive behaviours, tactics and actions are instead dealt with on the legislative level much better.
There also needs to be room for exceptions by default, that we assume that they will occur rather than "we'll deal with it when it happens but we'll assume the worst to begin with", which doesn't help.
We'll legislate for it better if we target the actions and behaviours because even innocent well meaning people can conduct themselves criminally. The opposite scenario means that people who meant no wrong and also did no wrong have to be put under scrutiny rather than be assumed not guilty and not really in need of investigation.
The american christian puritan culture uniquely grew out of the development of the american country and is in fact distinct from how it developed in europe so the differences matter a whole lot. Doesnt matter if it isn't rooted in that, it matters that it's the same outcome, that it is supported by puritans. I've seen that too and i'm friends with people who have been subject to it. I still recognize the problem but my prescription for it is different

>>937435807
>>937436026
What i argue for has more room for evolution, for a dynamic approach that can adapt quickly and that assumes the best about exceptions, which we should do. In many ways these rules do set an ideal, which they also should. I wouldn't force them to date anyone but they should absolutely have the agency to do so. I myself am a good example for why it works well

>>937435992
-Yes but its not as if voluntary oral (among other things) is a reason to ruin anyones life unless they are a willing STDs spreader.
-It is stupid and there are better ways. People just refuse to acknowledge that fact out of bias.
-The exception points out the absurdity of the rule. It serves as the elephant in the room.
-I went through just about every ounce of bullshit one can be subjected to right down to having layers of skin peeled off my back. I am very away of things. I dare say I am that smarter person thinking about the topic. You are grasping for straws that don't exist.

>>937436055
>data i've seen so far that compares countries with low aoc to higher aoc, seem to suggest that higher aoc does not contribute sufficiently to tackle the issues it claims to want to tackle.
I'm not sure what data you saw exactly, but are you sure you read it correctly?
>It seems that there are much better ways to approach those problems while also keeping the aoc low
"For every complex problem, there is a simple solution that is neat, plausible, and wrong." - H.L. Mencken
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nirvana_fallacy
>It's a moral panic and misinformation, partly, that contributes to raised aoc.
Policymakers can take advantage of moral panic and misinformation, but especially in the EU, which is very technocratic, that is hardly effective (unless you talk about countries with a broken political system like Greece). If what you were saying was true, loli and shota would be banned in the US, and most EU countries would turn that grey area into an explicit ban.
>There also needs to be room for exceptions by default
You want to make policies to prioritize exceptions, rather than the rule. But doing that opens up loopholes that especially manipulative individuals would take advantage of, to play into whatever criteria you select, just so that they can legally be permitted to abuse a minor. And what do you get in exchange? That some adults can put their dick into or rub their clit against minor genitalia? The risks are not worth avoiding the costs. And if you really love someone, let's say, 17 years old, then just wait a year and be with them. It's not a big deal.
>if we target the actions and behaviours because even innocent well meaning people can conduct themselves criminally
I'm not sure that innocent people just accidentally have sex with 14yo. And like I said, for edge cases, we have judges and a jury to handle them. As an adult, you should know the law and avoid breaking it. No policy changes solve the problem of idiots breaking laws out of stupidity.

>>937436055
And you really think that philosophers of law, policymakers, all branches of government, politicians worldwide, criminologists, NGOs, law enforcement, and many other groups involved in it, simply didn't get your brilliant idea on trying to make a perfect and ideal, adaptable legal system that permits only good things and never bad things?
If you want to reform the system, first learn why it is the way it is, instead of jumping to simplistic "blame the X" rationalizations.
Your entire argument thus far is "Yes, I know most minors would be dated by adults in heterosexual coupling that can result in pregrnancies like it happens between adults, yes, I know there are horrible adults who gravitate towards most naive and unskilled (almost all young people) individuals, who will try to turn them into slaves, into their punching bags, and it's unlikely an average minor will be developed enough to react to such abuse and get help, but I prioritize the hypothetical few exceptions, and will risk opening up loopholes, to enforce a system that only works in idealized scenarios, that will be played on by abusive people, for the sole purpose of allowing adults to stick their dick one or two years earlier, with me creating pages of regulations of such relationships, setting up organizations to constantly monitor such relationships, with setting up educational programs to prepare kids to get fucked by adults, and overall rewriting every aspect of society solely to allow the few hypothetical adults to put their dick in a kid. And of course, I will do it because I'm absolutely unbiased about the topic.".
Are you aware of how you sound? Do you really view yourself as smarter than the totality of experts working in these fields? Do you really believe you are some sort of gifted genius that reinvented democracy and law for the better? If so, you need a reality check.

>>937436055
>>937436441
If what you are worried, are situations of somebody who ended up hooking up with a 17yo who lied about being 18, judges are deciding if it holds up, and typically give a slap on the wrist. You aren't solving any problems, just risking making more of them by prioritizing a few exceptions that legal systems are aware of and are already handling, above the rule for which the legal system is the way it is. Laws aren't dogmatic; they are subject to interpretations. That is why you have lawyers arguing the case. The judge is deciding which laws, if any, and what punishment to give. The exceptions you allude to are still fuckups; they failed at their responsibilities as adults, so often they will get some small penalty for that reason.
Look, most people would likely just assume you to be a pedo, rationalizing lowering AoC. You are lucky that I met people like you, and I am familiar with the fallacious reasoning you present, so I don't view you this way. I suspect you might be young, open-minded, non-conformist, perhaps a bit contrarian. And since you lack education about the relevant matters, you reach conclusions that feel logical, but are not sound. There is a limit to how many things you can blame on religious puritans. If they truly had their way, we wouldn't speak right now. And you neglect to recognize that there are smart people in the fields that work on such issues, but who simply aren't abrasive enough for you to notice as the religious idiots. Your position is more emotional than rational, and I suspect you weren't honest about "the data you saw". If you want to continue your position, then actually study the topics you want to talk about. I did some reading on it, had some personal experiences that fit it, and thus I have my position. You are entitled to yours, I don't mind it, but the way you present it now will only get you into unnecessary trouble. That being said, I would prefer to end this conversation. I'm here to fap, not talk :P

>>937434551
Should just report his patreon and discord for breaking TOS to retaliate. Serves him right for being a retard.

>>937437130
That seems like an overreaction.

>>937436441
NTA You speak as if the world is ran by good competent selfless and intelligent people that are willing to intentionally make things difficult and expensive for themself in order to fight for what is unpopular without reward just because it is the right thing to do.
We switched from religious dogma to something else. If you oppose the environment people were raised to support in any capacity you become the great sinner. The opponent of the established orthodoxy. The modern heretic. No one wants to be the heretic. They are not dealt with in a gentle and rational manner.

>>937437192
No, you are the one who tries to reduce everything to "it's all broken because I found a small exception", failing to understand that it's impossible to create a perfect system. In response, I draw your attention to the other side, to balance you out. To take that and make statements like you just did now is disingenuous.
To make it more explicit, the world is run by a mix of good and bad people, and in the process, things become rectified. If law helps, it stays. If it causes real problems, it's amended. Loli and shota are good example: In the US, laws against CP were very specific in talking about just photos and videos of real kids. So, pedophiles used that as a loophole and made photoshopped photos blending adult and child likenesses. For that reason, the law has broadened, but it has also encompassed loli and shota. So when that law was used against fictional cartoons, the Supreme Court ruled out an exception and specified that it must be an identifiable minor that is depicted, not an imaginary character that cannot be harmed nor experience humiliation (Ashcroft v. Free Speech Coalition). There is a process to these things you fail to understand, and as a result, you don't even acknowledge how deeply incorrect your reasoning and statements are.
Like I said, I end this conversation. Ever since the beginning, it has become increasingly clear that you don't listen to what I said, that you have no intention to learn, and that you only want to preach. There is a limit to how much moralfagging about how unfair it is that adults can't put their penis in kids, and how every facet of society needs to change solely to account for that non-issue, that an average person can take.

>>937437431
The first think I said I was not that anon. Calm the fuck down. No one can take you seriously unless you act sane. While I am at it the least you could do is give people the same level of respect they give you and not make assumptions.

>>937437520
Sorry about the typos.

>>937437520
I missed the beginning of your post. My bad. That aside, what are you even talking about? If you read our conversation, then your entire post has already been addressed. Nobody in this thread is mad or crazy. I don't know where you inferred anything you spoke of. The conversation has nothing to do with respect or disrespect, and if you want to talk about not making assumptions, well, then first apply it to yourself. The other anon and I had a bit of a miscommunication in the beginning we resolved. You, on the other hand, went with claims about me that are instantly contradicted by many statements I wrote thus far.

>>937435722
i found a familiar forum but not the evidence here in this thread, so I will check out your mention on inkbunny. that said, looks like a handful are at it trying to modernize it.

>>937437773
>>937437192
Here is the rewrite of my post:
"That is incorrect, the other anon was the one who tries to reduce everything to 'it's all broken because I found a small exception', failing to understand that it's impossible to create a perfect system. In response, I tried to draw their attention to the other side, to balance them out. To take that and make statements like you just did now is disingenuous.
To make it more explicit, the world is run by a mix of good and bad people, and in the process, things become rectified. If the law helps, it stays. If it causes real problems, it's amended. Loli and shota are good example: In the US, laws against CP were very specific in talking about just photos and videos of real kids. So, pedophiles used that as a loophole and made photoshopped photos blending adult and child likenesses. For that reason, the law has broadened, but it has also encompassed loli and shota accidentally. So when that law was used against fictional cartoons, the Supreme Court ruled out an exception and specified that it must be an identifiable minor that is depicted, not an imaginary character that cannot be harmed or experience humiliation (Ashcroft v. Free Speech Coalition). There is a process to these things that anon failed to understand, and as a result, they didn't even acknowledge how deeply incorrect their reasoning and statements were. And my statements were meant to explain that fact to them.
Like I said before, I end this conversation. Ever since the beginning, the other anon has struck me as not willing to listen to what I said, having no intention to learn, and only wanting to preach. There is a limit to how much moralfagging about how unfair it is that adults can't put their penis in kids, and how every facet of society needs to change solely to account for that non-issue, that an average person can take. And I'm tired, so I don't want to continue this conversation with you either."