Thread 937536711

DEFINE ATHEISM YOU NIGGA

>>937536711 (OP)
I don't believe in God

>>937536711 (OP)
It's the act and habit of not believing your stories at face value.

>>937536711 (OP)
shitting dick nipples from outer space

>>937536711 (OP)
not theism

>>937536711 (OP)
not ever feeling god

>>937536792
/thread

>>937536711 (OP)
>DEFINE ATHEISM
The belief that there's no God,
and the universe just happend for no reason from nothing.

>>937536711 (OP)
Even if I could believe in a god, and by extension magic, how can I know that I'm not just coping and deceiving myself?
Cos trust me, I want nothing more than this thing going on and my consciousness persisting forever.
And because I want it to be the case, I must be doubly vigilant, as to not fall into wishful thinking and start believing my own bullshit.
This is a high-IQ dilemma. Midwits don't second-guess themselves, they're still riding the high of being better than retards.

>>937536953
but i beleive in god and the universe did happen from nothing and thats why god is so magical.

>>937536953
>The belief that there's no God,
atheism has no beliefs
>and the universe just happend for no reason from nothing
atheism doesn't have any views about the origin of life or the universe

>>937537096
>atheism has no beliefs
LoL, of course it has. Atheists believe that there is no God. They have no evidence to back this up, it's a mere belief.

>>937537096
>atheism has no beliefs
It's not so much that atheism has no beliefs, it's that atheism is a diagnosis of the condition of not believing a god exists. There can be, and indeed are, people with atheism do hold beliefs, sometimes they disagree with each other too.

>>937537228
>Atheists believe that there is no God.
that's not what atheism says
>They have no evidence to back this up
that implies there's evidence that god exists, and there is none, why would atheists believe there's no god when there's evidence there is one in the first place?

>>937536711 (OP)
Fuck off you Ginger.

>>937537298
>diagnosis of the condition of not believing a god exists.
you mean the default position? people don't believe anything from the start, they are convinced to believe things for one reason or another
if you can convince an atheist that there is a god then they become no longer atheist

>>937537324
*when there's no evidence there is one

>>937537324
>Atheists believe that there is no God.
>that's not what atheism says
Anon...just go fuck yourself

>>937537538
this is what atheism says: >>937536792

>>937537387
you got triggered by my scientific and impartial description of the condition. you must have comorbid conditions.

>>937537601
it isn't scientific, it was incorrect
atheism is not a positive assertion that "god does not exist", it's simply an absence of belief, just like countless other things we have no evidence of, or haven't even thought of
it's not a "condition", it's a neutral state of "I don't believe your claims, if you can prove them then I will"
it's the normal common sense position everyone has on basically everything imaginable, but theists somehow take offense and it's a problem when you don't believe their unfounded claims about their gods

...I feel a strong force of virginity itt...

>>937537715
ok I see the condition. you have ESL.

>>937537715
nta
>atheism is not a positive assertion that "god does not exist", it's simply an absence of belief
That would be an agnostic position of "maybe there is a God, idk".

>>937537779
no

>>937537792
agnostics are fence-sitters, that's not the same thing
atheism is a lack of belief, because no one can prove it, so they have no reason to believe
agnostics are the type to hedge their bets with Pascal's wager just in case, atheists aren't

If you find yourself in a situation that feels completely hopeless and you pray to God, and by chance, He answers you, it creates a deep sense of gratitude and a responsibility to others to hold on to hope, even if it means you might unintentionally do them a disservice.

>>937537779
there's no "condition", everyone is born atheist, by definition

>>937537883
Pascal's wager is a step up from agnosticism.
Agnosticism is saying "idk". Pascal's wager is saying "idk, but just in case".

>>937537950
>and by chance, He answers you
if you're hearing voices of gods in your head, you might want to see a professional as you may have schizophrenia

>>937537745
Stop touching yourself if you don't like it anon.

>>937537951
There is always a condition. Being alive is a condition.

>>937538010
and atheism says "I have no reason to believe you, so either convince me or I don't"

>>937537883
Agnostics say "I don't know about God", what is in their case a honest position.
Religious people with spiritual experiences say "I know God", what is also a honest position for them.
Atheist say, and they absolutely do, "I know that there is no God", what is not a honest position because they know a shit and just believe that God doesn't exists because they hate religion.
Atheism is the most dumb, logically inconsistent position.

>>937538026
I meant metaphorically. (I'm not sure if that's the right word.)

>>937538060
Yes.

>>937538062
This is a dishonest post, that's completely ignoring the "convince me" part.

>>937538057
no it isn't, an absence of belief in an idea isn't a condition, I don't think you know what that word means or how it's used

>>937538193
I know the true meaning of the word and the reason that it's used in the ways it's used. You just know parts of the meaning and have ego.

>>937538062
>what is also a honest position for them.
that they cannot prove to anyone else
>Atheist say, and they absolutely do, "I know that there is no God" there are people who say this, but that's not what atheism says, atheism is a lack of belief, and unless you can convince them that the claims of gods existing is true, they have no reason to start believing

>>937538083
how does a god metaphorically but not materially answer someone? what does that even mean?

>>937538307
Maybe it just happened, but I prayed to god from the bottom of my heart, and it happened.

>>937538622
it could very well be a coincidence
and what about all the times what you asked for didn't happen? what's the success rate of asking god and getting what you wanted?

>>937538682
1 and 1

>>937538713
not very compelling statistics

>>937538682
nta, but I've had particularly bad cases of sleep paralysis, where I feel like I'm genuinely about to suffocate, and I felt a presence, like someone was holding me still, and I tried to fight it with my considerable willpower, but failed, and ended up saying in my mind "oh, God, if you're out there, help!" and then I felt the grip loosen and I could move and breathe again.
I know what a sleep paralysis is though, I've had them way before they took on any religious undertones. I've always been able to deal with them on my own. This was one time when I really couldn't, so I invoked God, and something did happen.
How could I know that it's not all in my head though? Actual serious question, stop avoiding, you pussies!

>>937539287
>How could I know that it's not all in my head though?
if only there was some methodical process you could use to determine that

This is a logfag thread and you chumps fell for it as usual. Like you’re going to say something that hasn’t been said 500 times.

>>937540827
>fell for it
retard, we know this is a retarded bait thread with no value, this thread has been made thousands of times, this board is dead and there's nothing else going on

>>937539724
is there? what? where?

>>937536711 (OP)
No. Why would i, you fuck!

>>937538307
Easy, if the thing you prayed for happens, God did it.
If it doesn't, mysterious ways or you're sin is preventing God from answering your prayer.

Ya know, confirmation bias

>>937542774
Keep a prayer journal and track which ones were 'answered' and which ones weren't.
We look forward to seeing your data

>>937540827
Well yeah, theist 'arguments' are trash and always have been. But it's funny that people still use em