Anyone here experienced and navigated cheating before whether having done it or having been cheated on? I never realized how strong of a temptation it would until my first serious relationship and subsequent marriage and first kid. I just don't think sex is meant to be so exclusive (especially for men), and especially when how often we have sex having fell off a cliff after she gave birth. The occasional fight, sexual frustration, the high likelihood of it not being found out, and overall sense of having missed out on earlier experiences and hyperarousal that could come from fucking another woman, with a prior tinder fuckbudy being open to it, makes it all the more harder to resist.

So I'm curious to hear others experiences and thoughts on this, especially towards trying to grabble with the real values and faults in monogamy, polygamy, cheating directly, love vs sex, etc.

>>937898049 (OP)
>>937898049 (OP)
And there was a /lit/ thread in the last month that almost got right to the center of this issue, but the OP was a retard who wanted to cheat purely because his wife didnt want to do anal, and subsequently it derailed getting into the real meat and potatoes of the matter. So maybe this thread can do better (or maybe not, since this is /b/)

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>>937898049 (OP)
Don’t do it. You’ll irreparably harm your soul and fracture the fundamentals of your connection, which will become abundantly clear in floods after the fact. Do not do it.

Before i got cheated on by my current wife, i got prepared by my ex fiancee who convinced me for a while that footjobs, handjobs and other outercourse isnt cheating, so she can do it without me getting mad

>>937899412
So your wife can jerk off to other guys?

>>937899596
No but i hurt less when i realized she just casually jerked our friend to help him relax when his gf dumped him

>>937899655
my ex did the same to her best friend, coincidentally for the same reason

>>937899737
Fortunately mine only used her feet and Hands, and did IT just Like 4-5 times before the guy found New girl

>>937898141
What a fucking rat, anal sucks so bad...

Im only 25 and gf is 23 and we have not had sex in 2 months, and im tall and not that ugly with big PP.

I want to cheat and can cheat but its against my morals. Im banging my head against the wall tho knowing my potential.

>>937899296
Do you speak from experience? Connection sure, but soul? Every strand of DNA in men fundamentally dictates to be knocking up as many women as possible 24/7. Seems like monogamic idealism.

>>937899789
Mine did this for 2 months, and at certain times, she said she licked her hands after he came, but just so he could see, she didn't swallow

i have been in 5 serious relationships and have cheated during 4 of them. twice while i was married. you are going to do what you want no matter what anyone here says. just know that no matter how slick you think you are, that shit will always come out one way or another. you're better off having real talk with your girl and if she won't hear what you're saying to her about being unsatisfied, at least you can say you tried to work on it.

>>937899889
Mine licked it off only first and second time, From her foot once and From his stomach "for hygiene" and "to make him feel comfortable"

>>937899912
Na U just a moron with anecdotal evidence. I got away with it.

U just memory hole it btw to deal with it. Dont get hooked on the new pussy loosers.

Cheating wont work unless ur a player before u started dating like me

>>937899974
I didn't consider it cheating btw, in fact, he was her best friend. Maybe she did more things than she told me, but I don't care.

>>937899912
The sidechick that is super open to this is so on the same page about problems of monogamy and discreetness I really don't think it would come around unless I admitted to the wife about it, or somehow a third party leaked our affair to her (very unlikely). I've thought about having the talk of opening the relationship, but we've already skimmed against the idea enough before that I know it wont be fruitful.

>>937900048
lol 100% chance you drive a clapped out altima

>>937900079
I also knew and fucked the sidechick before I even met my wife, and she's discreetly had affairs already with her fiancee since. This part of the problem, the sidechick is perfect on discreetness so long I don't somehow accidentally fuck up hiding it, admit it, or someone else comes along and fucks it all up, which considering sidechick and wive have zero (0) relationship or mutual friend or shared network, that isn't going to happen.

I think that if there is no vaginal or anal intercourse it is not cheating.

>>937900180
And sidechick cheating is in fact part of fun/kink, ngl. total whore maxxxing, part of the sense of missing out on prior debauchery when younger and more autistic

sortt of related when i was a teenager i was sexting the same married guy for like 6 months and i felt bad bcuz he was in love with me

>>937900511
tits or gtfo

>>937898049 (OP)
On the one hand, its guilt you'll carry for a long time. Not just for that relationship but for each one in the future where you're with someone who says they'd never date a cheater.

On the other hand, the marriage i was in failed when she left for someone else after neglect drained my ability to show more than cursory emotions. So, fuck it. Also, it was really damn fun and i should have done it more.

>>937900148
Kia Rio 2012, tho I have 2 houses 1.1 mill and 612k

Eat my dust vroom.

>>937900598
Anon never said he was a girl. He might be a republican.

>>937899794
As someone in my mid 30s that spent 8 years in a relationship with someone that put out very infrequently, get out. Unless the times she does put out are amazing, it will wear on you until you just can't. Then she'll leave because she isn't getting what she needs.

>>937901199
Now that, I consider it cheating

>>937899794
If your GF doesn't have sex with you at minimum weekly, she never loved you. Leave.

>>937901285
what if it's a handjob or blowjob?

Yeah, I've cheated a bunch of times on my wife and will cheat again. Never been caught. My wife and I have sex 2-3 times a week and it's pretty good sex too. Ask me anything.

>>937901370
What would you consider cheating if your wife did any kind of affection with a man?

>>937901401
What? Are you asking if I consider it cheating to fuck someone else if my wife is affectionate with another man? Yes, it would still be cheating. But that's not what's happening with me.

>>937901316
Not even. If your GF is not taking your cock inside her once a week, she does not love you.

Women who actually love you will always be craving your cock. They want you inside them.

>>937901462
I want to know, from what you would consider that your wife is cheating, if she holds hands with another guy for example, hugs too much with another guy, etc.

>>937901522
Holy shit you're an actual pajeet. Learn English you disgusting mudslime

"I want to know what's the minimum you consider cheating."

>>937901370
Do you still have any guilt with it? If not did you, and why/how did it subside? Why'd you start cheating if you're still fucking quite regularly?

>>937901522
Lol, that's impossible for me to say. Is she neglecting you for this other guy? If so then it's probably at least emotional cheating. Holding hands would be over the line for me, hugs aren't that bad unless they linger or something else is going on there.

>>937901570
seems more like a super underage stupid kid

>>937901570
I'm literally a pajeet bro, just answer the damn question

>>937898049 (OP)
If you're married and have kids don't do it. I had chances to do it a few times and glad I didn't. It will psychologically scar your soul doing it. I've been with my wife 15 years and we have 3 kids and can honestly say I'm glad we have kept it together and our relationship is so much better for it, it spiritually feels very good we have this while the outside world is so full of poor behavior. I say this as I beat off on b too, which is probably crossing the line. Although I wouldn't care if she was doing that.
Having young kids ruins a sex life while theyre babies but it bounces back, as long as you both stay in shape somewhat.
Having a good marriage and family is the best thing ever, it makes all other status contests look pointless and childish

>>937901631
I wouldn't say neglecting, it's more of a very strong friendship thing

>>937898049 (OP)
Wife cheated on me. We'd been married for almost a decade, it was with someone she worked with. Figured out something was wrong, figured out her email log in, got all the proof I needed.
She was 8 months pregnant, I stayed with her and worked things out.
She continued to be dishonest about the extent of the affair, gave me the info in drips, mishandled a lot of the aftermath.
To be honest, she's a really awesome woman, the affair was very out of character. We have 4 great kids that know nothing about it. I did DNA to make sure they were all mine.
The problem is, even though she's smart, beautiful, loves me, and would do anything for me, she can't un-do this. And I will never believe her about anything related to it and never trust her.
That kid she was pregnant with is 22. Still don't have trust. Part of me wishes I'd walked out and never looked back. But, if I can't trust her I don't think I'd be able to trust anyone else either.

>>937901624
Guilt? Not really. Some when I first did it and when I caught feelings for another woman I was seeing. It subsided after a while and the more you do it, the easier it kind of just live with it. Sometimes the high of what you're doing is so much greater than the guilt that it becomes kind of an addictive feeling to chase.

So the first time I cheated was with a guy, I just wanted to experiment with someone with a cock, obviously my wife couldn't provide that. Then eventually my wife ended up on a birth control that really fucked her up, so I sought comfort in another woman. That lasted for about a year. Then my wife got off birth control and I got snipped and we've been having sex frequently since. But I still crave that feeling of being with someone else and doing something I shouldn't

Ex and I reached a point where we were cheating on each other and either were going to continue as an open relationship or breakup. I decided to end it.

>>937901741
That sucks bro. Having that many kids together would have made the choices so much harder.

>>937901741
Have disc?

Yeah i got caught with some tranny from this site. She was pregnant and not taking care of my needs so i just did it.
We are still together because i managed to spin some story about being a porn /sex addict and it worked for her to want to get me help. Kids been born and hes the only thing keepimg us together because we honestly hate each other.
Not my best decision but idk i needed my get off and now its been 2 years that shes gotten me off once

>>937901812
Ironically I think if I were to say to the wife I need to try out dick she might let me do it - she was in a lesbian relationship for like 8 years before me so she free on this and once said so a few years ago iirc. However I have zero interest in the dick carousel. I think between having missed on some spicy encounters when younger and just wanting something new is what driving me. And if flinging dick into my whore of a sidechick a few times again doesnt satisfy urges/leads to needing to chase the high, then that'll probably be my personal que to full monk-mode and learn how to control this shit once and for all.

>>937901741
And I know a few marriages that stayed together after affairs and they never recovered completely. Because they've confided in me what happened. Both cheaters and people cheating have told me. The cheaters tell me their genuine remorse for what they did but they also start resenting their partner for resenting them, which is human nature.

My ex jerked off to her best friend after he broke up with his girlfriend. I accepted it for a while because it was just a friends thing, but she felt guilty afterwards and broke up with me.

>>937901983
I've talked to my wife about wanting to fuck guys and she's kind of given me the green light. Haven't done much with it yet as grindr sucks ass in my area.

But yeah, I have a problem, I'm kind of getting deep into an emotional affair with my wife's younger sister and am actually taking her on a date tomorrow (my wife knows all about the date and is fine with it for some reason)

>>937898049 (OP)
it never works out for me or anyone else ive seen and that includes things like three ways too. someone always gets hurt

>>937902092
>But yeah, I have a problem, I'm kind of getting deep into an emotional affair with my wife's younger sister and am actually taking her on a date tomorrow (my wife knows all about the date and is fine with it for some reason)
lol good luck that sounds like a horrible idea within a sea of other somehow less bad ideas

>>937902157
Yeah, it's a weird situation, we've been hanging out a lot for the past year and we both flirt pretty heavily in front of my wife and she just thinks its funny. This will be our third date, nothing physical has happened, but we've definitely started confiding in each other about stuff. And my wife knows about all of the dates and again, is weirdly fine with all of it.

Had sex with my friends exgf after they broke up a whole bunch of times. They got back together a month after break up and got married and have a family together. I still meet up with him a couple times a year and he has no idea. I felt guilty over it so not as good friends with him anymore. His wife is a fat ass latina and I was the first person she gave head to (she was awful at it and I had to jerk off on her to finish)

>>937901994
ya, I think 'staying together for the kids' is a mistake unless you're going to make life perfect for the kids, which we did.
She loves me, I lover her. But there are those nights that I can't get to sleep and get locked into my thoughts and wonder what actually happened and wish I could believe what she's say if I asked her.
Part of me wants to feel better about myself, and part wants to make everyone feel as bad as I do about it. But I know that's a dark path and there's no reason to go down it.

I think the issue you need to look at when thinking about an affair is that you can only have complete trust once. If you don't value it, then go ahead.

humies are so messed up

>>937898049 (OP)
i regret not cheating when i was married
there was an offer on the table, a coworker who was sad to see me go (we were about to move) and i guess wanted to give me something to remember her by
but i did the "honorable" thing and turned her down
less than three years later, my wife started cheating on me, moved all of her stuff into her own apartment while i was at work, drained our bank account, and tried taking me to the cleaners in court

>>937898049 (OP)
>I just don't think sex is meant to be so exclusive

Then leave. u are a whore that wants to fuck. Jesus lmao u have a kid. Sure on a primal level maybe we are made to procreate as much as possible, but that is not reality. So if you want to give up all you have to feel the high of a rando(s), do it! Just quit stringing someone else along.

>>937898049 (OP) all about timing, and time.

Dont rush anything. When you have time, take all of it.

Dont just check a box of technical achievement.

Make it actually different. Make it worth it.
Make it memorable enough to overcome guilt, concern for stds, etc.

And when it is done, do the necessary maintenance, and dont look back. Dont hide from it.

Your deeds are who you are. It is inescapable. Own it, or dont do it.

>>937898049 (OP)
I got cheated on, it broke my heart and I was never the same. Years later, I cheated on the girl I was with, broke her heart and I regret having done it. At the end of the day, the fun you might have isn't worth the damage you will do especially when you're rolling the dice with your kid on the line.

When your spouse doesn't value the physical relationship or honor the person she supposedly claimed to always honor. You're a man with needs. Too bad Craigslist is gone I had many experiences with several people. Closeted gay men fuck and suck like their lives depend on it and women with busted reproductive organs love creampies. Can go into more detail if you like. My current wife was the last person i cheated on my ex with. She came into the relationship knowing I'll get what i want if she decides she doesn't want to share herself with me when i want/need it.

>>937902766
Your current wife knows your vulnerability. Tread carefully.

>>937902853
She knows we're both replaceable. If I'm not what she wants anymore me honest. If I'm not feeling it anymore be honest. Work together or dissolve. Staying in an unloving relationship is fresh hell

>>937898049 (OP)
If you're the kind of guy asking these questions on /b/ then you're not the kind of guy that can cheat and walk away unscathed. The guys that make his work for them do it every week because they can and their women know about it all and pretend not to notice. For the rest of us regular people you'll come home one day, the locks will have been changed, there'll be a "temporary" restraining order on you and an interim writ for child support. Your wife will move a guy into your home and you'll be on a cot paying her legal fees deciding if your asshole is going to be 6 inches in diameter or 12.

Seen it happen a dozen times. If you want to get some strange pussy then you need to have a house party or something get her mates over and see where the night takes you. If she's super straight and not into that then you're cooked. If you can't live without more pussy then you should initiate the divorce first and you're a cunt for putting your lust before your child.

Good luck.

>>937902688

same here. in the end you learn something from it that helps your next relationship. you cant be the person you was. so if there is kids i would say not to do it. the high of it is not worth it. and if you cant live with your self after words then you may tell her and maybe she cant live with you anymore. this cant be undone. so what every you do learn from it and hope

>>937900931
EXPLAIN! I think im in the I cant era where I dont even want sex anymore with her... is that what you mean?

>>937903943
Yes, I've cheated twice.

>>937903943
Okay, the deep dive. Not wanting the sex is part of it, but not the whole thing. That could just be the libido having a moment. It'll do that sometimes.

The real red flags are that being around her isn't something you want. In the sense that if you aren't looking forward to doing things together; hobbies, mini dates, working together, just chilling on the sofa, cuddling, and obviously sex, then you're already done. Those things will feel more and more like a chore over time and it never gets better.

If you are at this stage but still want to stay committed, its because you want the self image of being dependable, reliable, honest, etc. And trust me, that is not worth the damage it will do to you to stay in a relationship where you're not loved or appreciated.

Especially bevause the moment she realises there is someone that genuinely enjoys spending time with her who hasn't been sucked dry, she'll drop you immediately. At least, that last part is what happened to me.

>>937898049 (OP)
ive got you on that one.

>>937900772
>calls himself a player
>drives a 13 year old Kia Rio

You picking up chick's at a retirement home or something

>>937905227
Omfg dude.... I feel like im living ur life behind you.

She is very loyal tho and I do wana stay committed, did u think ur girl was loyal?

>>937907510
Did you miss the part about the 2 houses?

They are very big houses. I have these houses BECAUSE my car sux

>>937907799
larp
nobody with 1.7 mil in real estate drives a 13 year old Korean shitbox

>>937908449
Man I was on 4chan in my mums house when I got this car Look at me now.

Dw I use to not believe people either.

>>937898049 (OP)
You've got it all wrong, sex should be exclusive in a happy marriage. But if it's falling apart then cheat.

I started cheating when shit fell off after the first 3 years. I got tired of her just getting complacent, sex never happening because she was tired from burning herself out work even though I made 6 figures, and her just not paying attention to me. I finally divorced her after a year, but when I started cheating, I made a ton of profiles on dating and hookup apps, went to bars, and snuck into college parties. The key to cheating is to not shit where you sleep. If you live in a city of less than 100k, only cheat with a few women before moving further outside the city to cheat, unless of course you have a university in your city with a fresh rotation of girls. Once I started cheating, I was getting regular sex on Tindr and Hinge 2 times a week, plus the random bar hookup every so often. The real place I got hookups were at the college parties. If you're young enough to pass for college age, social engineer people into being friends with you and get invited so you look trustworthy. That was my preferred method of hookups on the weekends. I would go to my local university every odd weekend for parties, then go to other universities near me on even weekends. The freshman girls were the easiest to get especially if they were a 17yo freshman who didn't know any better. Not only do you get prime, young, mostly virgin pussy, but if you're slick enough, you can take their ass virginity too. Prone boning a freshman girl's smooth, soft ass and just grinding your cock in there as deep as you can was primo shit.

Cheating got me my current wife though. She was a junior, asian, 5'3" and 110lbs. I'd fuck her guts out on the regular. When she graduated, we got married and she is working on her law degree now. Sex is regular, rough, and great, and I get woken up with blowjobs often. She pays attention to me and gets the same in return, and I'm finally happy.

>>937898049 (OP)
I've cheated on every woman I've been with except the current relationship I'm in, ama in a faggy reddit way ig

>>937899794
if my ex hadn't fucked me for two months I would have been inside several other girls by that point and there's zero way she would have found out

>>937898049 (OP)
when I was young I cheated in every relationship I had. I mean, statistically speaking you're not going to meet your life-long partner before college. That highschool girlfriend will not die with you if you marry her. That's a guaranteed divorce 20 years later when you're both bitter that you sacrificed everything to be with each other.
So I always cheated if the opportunity was there, and man those were some of the best memories I'll ever have lol no regrets.
But when I became an adult I stopped dating just to not be alone, obtained some standards, including an outright rejection for anyone who seemed prudish or low-libido. No, if we're going to spend our lives together you have to be open to threesomes at the very least.
So, we have had a few threesomes. We still fuck around once a week after 12 years. I've never felt the need to cheat.

Best sex i ever had was with a married man.

>>937898049 (OP)
I cheated on an ex girlfriend once and I felt horrible afterwards. It fucks the relationship up in a way that can't be unfucked, and that was just dating which is honestly low stakes. Throw in marriage and kids and it's on the level of trying to burn your house down to collect the insurance money, ie desperate and crazy. For some reason after having the first kid seems to be a danger point for a lot of people. I'm guessing it's cause of the first major drop in sex frequency and feeling trapped or whatever faggy thing you're going through. Your selfish desires are no longer the most important thing in your life boo hoo homo. Don't do it you fucking retard

>>937908449
Retard logic. My wife and I have a net worth of a little over 8 million and I drive a 2021 Ford Escape as my daily driver. I don't want people to know I have money, bro. Just because someone has money doesn't mean they're going to be a total retard and have a garage full of lambo's in a million dollar home and shit. The most expensive car my wife and I own is a 2024 Mercedes S580, which was $130k. The most expensive thing I've ever bought my wife was a $50k Hermes purse for our 10th anniversary. We live in a 5500sqft home that we bought for $500k a decade ago, with two kids, and that home is worth $900k now. We have about 5.8 million that is liquid and another 2 million in investments. Since we don't spend money just because we have it, and that allows us to afford nice trips every month with the kids. We fly mostly main cabin on commercial flights unless there is a good deal on first or business. The only thing we do spend the money on while traveling are nicer hotels with large suites. Outside of that and the nice cars, bespoke clothes, and the odd designer handbag, we live like normal ass people.

>>937898049 (OP)
Why would i cheat when my wife likes pussy as much as i do?

>>937898049 (OP)
I used to cheat all the time. For about 10 years I basically had a harem of fuck buddies I could get sex from at any time. Most of them were married or had boyfriends. I eventually stopped because it just got to be too much work finding new girls when one of them would stop cheating. Now when I need something I just go to a brothel (legal here in Europe).

>>937915008
Yes

>>937898049 (OP)
My wife and I have been in an open relationship since pretty much when we got together. It’s not for everyone but the idea of cheating in the traditional sense is a turn off for us both. I think it helps that when we started seeing each other we both agreed that there is a difference between physical attraction and intimacy. So far it’s been 11 years and life is good. AMA.

>>937899846
no he's right >>937899296 it affects you on a soul level. Speaking from experience, it fucks up your view of yourself, your relationship, and how you treat other people. To cover it up and keep your relationship you literally have to turn into some sociopathic person. Hell, even some beautiful moments, like when she looks into your eyes and tells you she loves you, and under cut because the guilt and memories of what you've done creep in, and it reminds you of how you've wronged her.

Just do not do it. It will be fun. It will be some of the most exhilarating memories of your life. But it you will not be the same person after that. Some good aspect of yourself that you had since childhood will be gone. It will not come back, all you can do is adjust to your new realization about yourself.

>>937915581
Why are you gay?

>>937898049 (OP)
Many years ago there was a married woman that found out her husband was cheating on her. She was "stuck" in being in a world where being a mother and part of a family was her life and didn't know anything beyond that while feeling insecure of her appearance, especially since her husband was her high school sweetheart and had never been with another man. After a year or so of knowing she was torn between keeping the marriage together for the sake of her child, she decided to see if she could find a man that would find her attractive enough to experience sexual pleasure outside the marriage. She's good looking so it was a self-criticism thing. She had already tried being with a woman since it was easier to plan around, but she was mainly attracted to men. I attended a party she was a part of. I didn't pay much attention to her but she was nice. A couple days later she found me on fb to mention that her sister was attracted to me and that she (not the sister) wanted to know who I was before passing my info to her sister. The on and off chatting lead to her talking about her continuous cheating husband and failing marriage and how her feeling ugly, unwanted, with low self-esteem had put her in depression.

>>937915704
She asked if she can drive to where I live to talk in person. She picked me up and cried and vented about her life. She then asked if I was attracted to her enough to provide pleasure and help her feel wanted. Idk how much she planned this but it was a convincing story (her story checked out) and sounded reasonable to what she was looking for. So for about 8 straight months during the summer she would drive 2, 3 times a week, 1 hr each way, to pick me up so I can help her with her physical needs. She had only been with one man and I'm a big guy so she had never experienced a big difference in pleasure. She said she overall didn't really mind all the driving so I never drove to her. She would also pay for our meals and little things that I may have wanted. I realized it wasn't the greatest thing to be helping her this way but I would see the yearning in her eyes for this new found happiness. I was seeing that she was falling for our situation so she knew that before she'd become more attached she had to make the decision to stop meeting up. I could have stopped our situation but I wanted her to make the decision on when she felt she had restored her self-confidence. I now have a different perspective on why people do the things they do when their partner is being unfaithful, and not just file for divorce.

>>937911557
Ye Im 30 im the guy who had the KIA this is right my brother

Adam sandler that shez

>>937911557
Lol. Fucking larp made by ai.


No one believes your shit. Lol at 8 million net worth


Lol at ford escape. They don't even make those anymore.

My ex jerked off to her best friend after he broke up with his girlfriend. I accepted it for a while because it was just a friends thing, but she felt guilty afterwards and broke up with me.

I got my neighbor pregnant twice, ama

>>937916585
of age or ....?

REALITY

>>937900776
how the heck is this thread still going i am a girl though

This chick in college was real flirty and into me. We made out once, but between my classes and work I just didn't have the time to give her. She slipped away and ended up with another guy. Fast forward a few years. All graduated and starting our adult lives post-college. She ended up marrying the other guy. Even had a kid together. Me and her talked every once and awhile on Facebook but nothing serious. Until she got fed up with her now husband. Apparently all he did was play vidya and smoked weed all day and never helped with the kid or house chores. She brought in most the money too. Facebook chats start getting more serious and more frequent. Didn't take long before she was sneaking away and meeting me when she could get away with it. Started with lunch/dinner dates. Eventually got to regular meet-ups for sex.

I was only ok with this because at the time she had convinced me she was going to leave the hubby and we were gonna settle down ourselves together. Few months of sneaking around later and I was getting tired of being the dirty little secret and wanted her all to myself. She made excuse after excuse on why she wasn't ready to break the news to him. I eventually gave her an ultimatum. Him or me. She chose him, but mostly because she didn't want to break the family up with her kid so young and was worried about what her parents would think of her.(religious type parents) The sex was fun, but I couldn't life that lifestyle of sneaking around and going behind people's backs. Just didn't sit right with me. Me and her haven't spoken since. I have no idea if she's still with him or not.

its a bot thread, which get nercobumped every time they get near page 10

>>937916685
Well yeah

40s, engaged w/kid, I struggle with this daily, but have just settled on it's in my nature and I can't change that, probably will never change. I'd like to have 10 kids with 10 women.

>>937917468
diversify those seeds son!

>>937917241
Looks close to my daughter but no tail and she's too old for the pacifier

Dated a woman who would send me videos of her getting fucked and creampied by her coworker. She told me when we started dating that she had an ongoing FWB thing with him and would continue it through our relationship and it was non-negotiable. I agreed.

Later I just realized I could never bring her home to mom and broke up with her. Kinda miss the thrill of watching her get cummed in though. She'd show her pie to me at the end and I'd cum too.

>>937916890
Show tits

>>937898049 (OP)
I met my wife through cheating. She used to date my best friend, and the two of us became close friends because of it.

One day she told me in private that she was miserable with him and that he was mentally abusive. It came as a complete sureprise to me because he had always been a good friend to me. She told me that she was afraid of breaking up with him because she was afraid she would lose me at the same time. We kissed and hugged but never fucked. She broke up with him about a month later and he told us he never wanted to see either of us again. It was very emotionally taxing because I do love her and never wanted to jeopardize any of our relatio ships. He and I are no longer friends but he still writes to her on occasion.

Am I sorry? Yes, I wish it could have gone better. Do I regret it? No, I love her and she says she would have left him regardless.

>>937918569
Shit friend.

>>937898049 (OP)
I’ve always cheated just make sure it’s with true randoms you don’t want that shit getting mixed up with your real life people end up talking in love or fucking others close to them which is so fucking dumb

I generally cheat when I travel for work either meeting girls online via the apps or reddit or just some random medium looks woman at the local bars

It’s perfect tbh

>>937899296
>>937915592
Imagine not being a sociopath lmao pathetic

>>937918255
ur cucking yourself from my awesome story by demanding tits

>>937898049 (OP)
I cheated on my college girlfriend of four years. I had been trying to break up with her for most of that time, but she kept threatening suicide and she and her friends would blow up my phone 24/7 day-after-day whenever I tried to break up with her, and I was too retarded to just change my number, so I'd give up out of exhaustion and get back together with her. So every so often I'd just fuck other girls and not tell her. Idk if she figured it out and didn't really care. After college, I moved across the country, and she moved across the country to follow me even though I told her I wasn't interested in continuing the relationship. I started dating another girl and started sending her pictures of us together and she eventually got the hint.
The only guilt I felt about it was how I betrayed myself. I'll never understand her mindset.

I've been honest about it with any new partners and they mostly understood. I'd never cheat on my fiancee.

Been with my GF since high school. Over the years she got fat an unattractive and we stopped having sex. When I lived abroad for a while I had an affair for a month or so with a younger coworker. I really should have just ended the relationship. However I moved back in with the GF through some retard logic thinking it would get better. I've now been celibate for a year.

The girl I cheated on her with got fit, is now very attractive and waited for me to kill my relationship and move in with her. But she was also in another country and I didn't want to move again so soon. I'll never find someone like her again but she was also a bit extreme and crazy. Anyway, she got fed up and moved on. And I'm still with the hamplanet.

I've come to realize it won't get better and I should have ended it three years ago. I'm 31 and it feels like it's too late to live this part of my life now. I think I'm dating app cannon fodder and no longer have university or other means to meet young or young-ish women.

>>937919456
I had a psycho ex like that I just stopped caring, she ended up oding at some point years after we broke up. Stupid crazy bitch. The sex was top tier tho

>>937920007
As a man 31 is not too late

Women have a clock men dont

>>937920014
Yeah sex with her was great, she didn't OD but if she were poor maybe it would've ended like that for her. She had a very wealthy family who gave her a lot of support. If only they had told her "this guy clearly isn't into you" lmao

>>937920056
Biological clock is one thing. I don't really care about kids anymore. It's just that I'm 5'9" and starting to lose hair. Although I'm quite fit, have been told I'm handsome and have done somewhat impressive things. But I think a quiet guy in his 30s with these specs is just going to be ignored by the female population.

Recent realization was that it doesn't really matter if I never find anyone else since it's not like I'm getting any regardless.

I basically had a full blown relationship going behind my exs back, the other girl knew and didnt care. Id see her every night of the week while my ex was at work. Initially id never have cheated, but she did it first and i was too dumb to leave so i figured i would too.

>>937920256
at what point did you end it

>>937898049 (OP)
>its a temptation especially after your first kid
You're a fucking nigger and I hope you cease life.

>>937899974
>>937899889
LARPing retards

>>937899296
>>937901741
>>937915592
All true.Current wife cheated and I discovered about 2 months ago. My soul is irreparably damaged. I can't trust her for anything anymore. The love we had is gone. I provided for her, did everything a good man does to honor his wife and marriage. Had amazing mind-blowing sex consistently. She went for a training at work that was 2 months in duration and about 2-3 weeks in began cheating the rest of the duration. Only reason she stopped was the affair partner was also married with kids and he cut her off despite her trying to make advances still. I hypothesize that had he been single, she would've left me for him. I am a broken shell of the man I was prior. Constant thoughts of I'm not good enough, strong enough, masculine enough, make enough money, the list goes on. Don't do it. If you have thoughts of cheating, you either course correct and re commit yourself, or leave the relationship. You can't possibly know the amount of trauma to someone you will cause when they think you're loyal and honest. Cheating on your partner can have the same effects as PTSD. Everything reminds me of her affair. Literally everything. Every word she said to him, every time we were on FaceTime and he was secretly there, all the times she said she was going to sleep and actually going to his room, and all the things she did for him have ruined me. She was the only woman I've ever worked this hard for and was legitimately in it for life with. Like someone else said, even if we were to separate, I cannot ever trust another woman, let alone another person ever again. The only thing that makes marriage and relationships work is honesty, loyalty, and true commitment to your SHARED values, morals and boundaries. The world actively attacks monogamous relationships. Please, don't do it anon.

>>937898049 (OP)
I have been both cheated on and cheated. Manly the one being cheated on sadly :( Over my 40+ years of being on this earth i'm single and happy to be this way. As i can do what i want with who ever i want and not have to worry about it. Just the other week i hooked up with this amazing women who had a ring on her finger. I asked if she was married she said nope and that was good enough for me. We fucked in the back of my truck and she was a freak! started using my tools as sex toys and i sat there and watched her. before fucking her brains out and dumping a load all over her tits and face. Honestly i will never get in to another relationship again.. Live the freedom and the extra $$$ i have from not having another person ..

>>937898049 (OP)
Got cheated on, it shattered my world. The day after it was like I could see new colours. Everything felt more vivid. I never thought a woman would betray me like this, I never that I would be that guy, but I went through all the tell tell steps and got cheated on. We were young and she did it because another guy was simply giving her more attention and making her feel seen at the time. She was devastated and “confessed”. But I had to pry it out of her, in fact I will never know the full truth she told so many stories she eventually wore herself out. Unfortunately we are still somewhat together.

It’s not the healthiest relationship, it never was. I strongly believe breaking up after cheating is a sign or signal of two healthy people. Any couple that sticks together after it, you know there is sickness there.

>>937898049 (OP)
Broke up with my gf a few months ago, started hanging out with a college friend who's married with three kids (2 different dads.) She mentioned she was in an open relationship and i was trying to talk her into a threesome but her husband wasn't going for it. He's a fat fuck, like 450lbs and i wouldn't really have wanted him involved anyway. So eventually we start hanging out at their place, turns out he's an abusive piece of shit, she sleeps inna different bed because he's too fucjing fat to share a bed with and snores like a lawn mower. Ended up staying over one night when her husband was at work (security guard night shift) and we fucked all night. She was fucking feral, hadn't had sex in like 5 or 6 months because the husband wasn't in the mood, probably low testosterone and erectile dysfunction. He finds out, but says he's cool with it. I take her out to the bar, and then to my place and we're drunk as hell, start fucking. Modway through she gets a suicide note emailed to her, so we call 911 and head over to their place. Fucking retard only took like 15 Tylenol so he was fine, ended up in the psych ward for like a week, my friend told him she wanted a divorce, and when he got out he transitioned. About a week later, we're chilling at her place, he goes to his room and me and my friend are cuddling in bed. I'm on seroquil at the time because my doctor thinks I'm bipolar, i think he's just a retard but anyway it's kicking in and I'm passing the fuck out. The husband has been poking his head into the living room (my friend keeps her bed there cause it's a small apartment) and eventually tells us to stand up and takes both our pants off and tells us to fuck. I'd have knocked him the fuck out if i wasn't half asleep but he just walked away. Eventually he comes back out and starts crying like a bitch apologizing but we're not having it. He starts screaming and freaking out so i just get my friends and my shit and leave to my place. Anyway, now we're dating