Thread 938125929

Understanding what women want is easy - it's just the satiation of any and every whim or desire she might come up with, provided that she doesn't have to take responsibility for it.
In other words - she wants *all of the positives*, with, crucially, *none of the negatives*.
If you're still wondering how to deal with your woman - just think of her as that kid on the playground, that doesn't actually know how to play with other kids...
But yeah, after decades of intensive sex and study, the results are in, and they're as expected - the totality of female psychology can be encompassed by one word - hedonism.

i disagree, they are social giants that derive self worth from health of their tribe, like i can not maintain a large circle of friends but every women i have met do it like breathing. if you think they are hedonistic i assume that is a reflection of her tribe, be it digital or physical. often the annoying people trying to make her blush online promotes that hedonistic lifestyle because that is what she expects from her tribe you can absolutely change it.

>>938126047
Now, to be fair, digging through my memories, I find that girls mostly watched us play, instead of playing with us... so my characterization of "woman" as "that kid that didn't know how to play with us" remains correct, even if I ditch the rest of my frame for the sake of argument.
Calling them social giants is a bit of a stretch, though I understand how you might come to feel that way. They get a pass from boys, because they think appeasement is a viable reproductive strategy, and they get a pass from girls, because girls know what's in their best interest - backing up the girl in every situation and expecting her to do the same.
And, while I've met a handful of truly caring women, I still think they're the exception, rather than the norm.

>>938125929 (OP)
This isn't "woman" behavior, this is cluster B personality disorder behavior. More women are Borderlines (BPD) and Histrionics HPD), but more men are Sociopaths (ASPD) and Narcissists (NPD).

All cluster B disorders exhibit the sense of entitlement you're talking about, though.

>>938126561
Hmm... so am I just unlucky, or am I attracting this kind of women? Or maybe "cluster B" is the prevalent state of women?
In the interest of full disclosure, I have to say, that my mother never could bring herself to see me as a separate human being and accept my autonomy, always maintaining a sense of ownership over me, no matter how independent I tried to be...

>>938127239
>or am I attracting this kind of women?
You're attracting them. They target men with low self-worth, or who are vulnerable in other ways, like having a disability, for example.

>>938125929 (OP)
Judging an entire demographic based on a sample population where you are the common denominator isn't the own you think it is.

>>938127447
Ok, yeah, I've had a bit of a rough childhood. Assuming there's something better out there, how do I stop attracting crazies?
>>938127597
Your retort isn't the own you think it is either, cos how else is a man supposed to build his worldview, besides personal experience...

>>938126546
>"that kid that didn't know how to play with us" remains correct
ya,
>pass from boys...
ya,
>backing up the girl
nah
i do not think girl/women make choice on their own they are the glue for most friend groups they keep it together at great personal cost, so i would not say hedonist is an accurate description, but it is possible i do not have a firm grasp on it and i am simple rejecting the connotations of the word because i refuse to remove women from the pedal stool i have put them on; metaphorically speaking.

>>938125929 (OP)
That is about as bad as you saying you know exactly what a woman is because its someone who wants to be a woman.
You clearly don't know exactly what women want, you just know that they want what they want.

>>938128074
>they want what they want.
do they or do they want a group and whatever it takes to get or maintain that group, so it is less materialistic and more self sacrifice for fleeting approval of their tribe.

This thread reads like bots talking to bots. 51% shenanigans.

>>938128118
>do they
Yes.

>do they want...
Only if they want it, then yes, they want it because they what they want.

>>938127874
>how do I stop attracting crazies?
it isn't literally about attracting them, you just have to notice and reject them
they approach other people too but they reject them sooner
>how else is a man supposed to build his worldview, besides personal experience
read about other people's experiences
everyone puts their lives online, you can observe random people to estimate the variance

>>938128524
>everyone puts their lives online,
No they don't, a small number of attention whores put some idealized version of the life they want online.

>>938128664
pretty much everyone posts somewhere
a small number of people use their real name

the point is that you can get some variety by observing very different communities
christians, communists, gamers, homeless people, whatever, as long as you see how different people can think and behave

>>938128074
>That is about as bad as you saying you know exactly what a woman is because its someone who wants to be a woman.
Nah, I'm well aware of what a woman is, thank you very much.
>You clearly don't know exactly what women want, you just know that they want what they want.
It sounds tautological in a vacuum, but it makes perfect sense, in the context of any social interaction ever.
>>938128196
Fuck off, nigger, this is the most human thread this board has seen in months.
>>938128008
I've witnessed the phenomenon of friend groups falling apart, the moment a key girl leaves, but I attribute that to simps roaching out, more than anything...
They do back each other up almost unconditionally though. I've seen that too. Idk if they do it consciously, but good luck having a woman take your side, if you're in any sort of conflict with another woman...
>>938128524
>it isn't literally about attracting them, you just have to notice and reject them
>they approach other people too but they reject them sooner
I suppose that makes some kind of sense. I'm just the one guy that doesn't instantly give them the boot...

>>938128403
ya, i reread what i wrote, and i too am suprised i am sober.

>>938128830
>Nah, I'm well aware of what a woman is, thank you very much.
But you have no idea what they want any more than people who think women are whoever wants to be a woman know what a woman is.

>it makes perfect sense, in the context of any social interaction ever.
Yea, they want what they want is just true by definition, but it doesn't make you able to predict what specific things a woman will actually want other than to ask her and actually believe she wants what she says.

>>938128928
Yes, logically, you're 100% correct. I still feel you're missing part of my message, or if you're not missing it, then you're purposely not acknowledging it.
>oh noes, woman mind eternal mystery!1!11
nope, they just want the good shit. preferably on a silver platter.

>>938128986
Because you haven't solved any mystery, you have just restated the question as an answer.
>What do women actually want?
>I know exactly what they want, they want what they want.

Its like if I asked to actually explain the mystery of energy and your answer was just "it isn't a big secret, energy just is what it is".

>>938129100
They want the best possible outcome for them in any given situation (*the positives*), but they want you to give it to them (you have to bear *the negatives* (which means you literally have to figure it all out for them and spoonfeed them like toddlers)).
>Its like if I asked to actually explain the mystery of energy and your answer was just "it isn't a big secret, energy just is what it is".
That's kinda how energy is actually defined in physics tho. Hurr durr, "the capacity to do work".

>>938129221
No, if it were kinda like that, the definition would be energy is the capacity to be energy.