Thread 938218078

What's with the "I like cock, not men" phenomena? Is there cure for it other than sui?

>>938218078 (OP)
>Is there cure for it

Why would you want to cure?

>>938218078 (OP)
“I like Cheddar, not cheese”
“I like pistols, not guns”
“I like schools, not teachers”
“I like apples, not fruit”
“I like websites, not the Internet”
“I like cars, not streets”
Make it make sense

>>938218219
>I like bananas, but throw away the peel
Simple.

>>938218219
Sexuality isn't the same as why it those analogy, but it's easier to call you retarded.

There is no cure. Sadly.

>>938218078 (OP)
I like his tummy, not his cock

>>938219897
Is there a better cure than suicide? Honestly, I'd prefer the option of getting shot in the nuts like the dude in the meme did.

>>938218078 (OP)
>>938213810
>Being a straight man, I can still appreciate the aesthetics of a perfect cock
>>938213282
>gay babecock thread straights allowed
>usually called hetero babecocks
>>938219076
>Built for BBC
>Poki is first pic
>>938219401
>Celeb thread
>not gay inherently but they always talk about black dicks

nobody ever believes me and they all call me a schizo but now someone else has finally noticed. this. is. not. a. coincidence. jannies will ban me if I go too deep. but let me just say this. crazy how all this activity got significantly worse after a certain date in 2023 just a bit before halloween, and crazy how us sentiment for a certain nation has been slowly drifting towards a more relaxed/neutral position.

this. is. not. a. coincidence.

funny how homosexual behavior is linked to less aggression (lower t), which is linked to more agreeableable personality, which is easier to control.

this. is. not. a. coincidence.

if you want to discuss more then it must be done through proton mail. this board is not safe. remember the crazy hack from months ago? that was not a coincidence.

>>938220790
youre talkign about controlling the world and making ti gay therefore less able to rebel against israel taking over the world. also filling up the coutnry with dumb immigrants who will vote liberal to perpetuate the degradation of society into compliant gooned up degenerates who allow the ruling class to control them.

i'd recommend documentaries such as hypernormalisation which touches on this kind fo thing in a PC way

>>938221347
you are truly delusional if you think I have not tried. I tried hard and lost my job for it. what is your proton mail? It best if we discuss there.

>>938222234
have not tried what? i'm good thanks i know what is going on. not much can be done about ti to be honest

>>938222490
this board is not safe. you keep asking questions you know should never be answered here which makes me very suspicious of you. a lot can be done and a lot of people are doing it. if you really are out of the loop on the resistance then you are dumb or playing dumb. proton mail or fuck off kike.

>>938218078 (OP)

It's called being bi and it turns out it's just as common with guys as it is with girls. If girls can mess around and it's no big deal then guys can too.

>>938218078 (OP)
Porn.

Those people would have never had the time or experiences witnessing a plethora of cocks in sexual situations if it wasn't for porn.

Quit porn, interact with more girls.

>>938220790
Yes, being feminine and submissive does make people weak, correct. There is a war against masculinity/men and the traditional culture of the west that made it as great as it was. They want us to be cattle.

I like cock, but not ass. I'm probably one of the weird ones out there

>>938223096
I.e. live in reality.

>>938220489
Or you can just embrace it for what it is- a fantasy and nothing more. You will never meet a tranny a quarter as hot as the porn trannies you see in the internet, and even if you did, you’d never have a chance with them anyway. They’re like unicorns. Just jerk off and move on

>>938218078 (OP)
What if I'm the opposite? I'd be okay with plapping a twink as long as the dick is caged / otherwise covered.

>>938223291
sauce?

I'm not gay but sometimes I like to look at cocks. Black cock looks better penetrating a pale woman but nothing beats a big veiny white cock for beauty. The best cumshots are when it spurts out at a high velocity and resembles silly string. Also dangling balls are fun, especially when the scrotum is shaved and the balls are just hanging there like tied together shoes on an electric overhead wire.

>>938223096
>>938223285
Blaming porn for making you like cock is like blaming cake for making you like sugar. You already liked sugar to begin with, cake was just the first thing you ate to make you realize it.

>>938223247
no no same ass and feet make me go soft

>>938225145
Humans like carbs because it gives our bodies energy, it's evolution. A man liking cock is not the same. Some fetishes/tastes/desires can be acquired through experience, marketing, psyops etc. Porn of that kind and threads such as this is the latter. It's also interesting that the fetish typically resides in men who don't socialise, are sexually inexperienced with women (or have been for a while), and spend a lot of their time gooning.

i mean this is just how women feel but for the whole of the physical guy

>>938225393
>A man liking cock is not the same.
You missed the point. I didn't say it's evolutionarily the same. Most guys watch b/g porn. If your theory is correct, then guys should just shift more straight. It is clearly the case that if you like cock after watching porn, you always liked cock and never knew it.
>Some fetishes/tastes/desires can be acquired through experience
Obviously. A bra fetish must be acquired since bras are man made. Dicks aren't.
>It's also interesting that the fetish typically resides in men who don't socialise, are sexually inexperienced with women (or have been for a while), and spend a lot of their time gooning.
Breaking news: Did you know going to Burger King multiple times a week decreases your odds of going to the gym? It's interesting how all these BK lovers barely go to the gym.

Alternatively, correlation does not equal causation. Rather than assuming that BK makes you hate the gym, maybe I should realize that I'm already selecting for a group that doesn't like the gym.

In other words, you think that because the only people on this board frankly are socially awkward inexperienced people. If you have hours to spend gooning here, you probably don't have much going on off screen. Plus, if you're already open to gooning with others in an anonymous forum, you're already not super straight.

>>938218078 (OP)
I love everything about cocks but I hate almost everything about the social expectations for people with them

>>938218078 (OP)
People take pics like this because it their penises look bigger. It's surprising that people fall for it

>>938218078 (OP)
I am in this post and I don't like it. I guess it's possible that it's the same thing as being gay, since anonymous sex and gloryholes are a thing with gays. A gloryhole removes the man from the situation like watching faceless solo cum videos. Faces in my solo male masturbation videos ruins it for me.

>>938218119
What's her name

>>938225785
Guys typically start out with B/G porn until they come across traps or trannies on sites such as this, then they might branch out into sissy porn or some shit. They are sexually aroused at the feminine and submissiveness of this and that arousal can transfer to cocks as they are now associated with femininity (at least in their minds). Some guys might even go a step further and want to become it, so they start wearing panties and bras (made made things, as you said) as they too are associated with that femininity.

But yeah, that's exactly right - if you're the type to spend a lot of your time gooning on forums such as this because you don't have a girlfriend, and don't socialise etc. then your odds of coming across this content and falling down the rabbit hole becomes increasingly high.

There may have also been experiences growing up or during childhood that made these men more susceptible to this, or to come to forums such as this. I came to this site back in '08 because a friend on RuneScape mentioned it, and was quickly acquainted with the full degeneracy that this site has to offer.

>>938226190
You're contradicting yourself. How come the most popular tranny porn is dominant coded(big dicks, degradation)? Femine is associated with submissive, you're right. How come most straight guys don't become trans despite strong female attraction?

Too many contradictory claims.

>>938226799
The human mind is complex and dynamic, I'm still acquiring new sexual tastes at the age of 31, and moving on from old ones that just don't do it for me anymore.

I think a lot of these guys find a trap or tranny that is especially cute or submissive and that opens a gateway in their mind. They get aroused, but feel confused and unsure because this 'girl' has a cock. But, they get aroused enough, or they see fellow /b/tards gooning over them as well so they tell themselves it's okay. The taboo nature of it also arouses them in a way they haven't felt before. So they nut, and this forms deeper connections in the reward centre of the brain that makes them seek out more, and more.

Each step of the way to "dominant coded(big dicks, degradation)" may have a similar nature, i.e. some initial arousal at what they are looking at (but unsure), the taboo nature increasing arousal, and fellow gooners encouraging it. Another nut, another batch of neural connections, etc.

It's worth noting that some guys can like cocks and be dominant, and some can like cocks and be submissive. And, someone may become more dominant or submissive throughout their life depending on life experience. For example, someone who experiences a lot of Ls, or begins to get controlled by their partner (men sometimes 'get weak' for a woman, then they get dumped - an L), or doesn't have masculine guidance in their life might be more likely to become submissive. The degree of submissiveness and the degree of their attraction to cocks, and being exposed to dominant coded tranny porn is what will determine their attraction to it.

Then perhaps the really submissive ones who get off on the taboo and naughty nature of being a trap (after being exposed to it pornographically) might become trans.

>>938227472
I think it's important to note that I don’t think it’s a straight path to any one of these destinations, it depends on the persons exposure to certain porn, previous fetishes, childhood experience, their personality (dominant/submissive, which is dynamic). Some guys will love women so much that they want to lick their feet, or drink their piss, or even eat their shit. The world is your oyster lmao.

>>938227472
>>938227498
I'm not disagreeing that fetishes can be acquired and don't disagree that the human brain is complex, but at the bare minimum you have to acknowledge that your theory is way more complicated than the general consensus of
>be born man
>most media/social norms/etc promote heterosexuality
>be bi, but only love women
>see big dicks
>get hard because bi but never exposed
Add the fact that guysbare more sexually visual and girls have more visual secondary sex traits (tits, ass, legs, etc) and guys have less visual secondary sexual characters (deep voice, dominant nature, etc) and it's really not surprising that a guy can be bi and never realize it until exposed to a dick they like.

If you can't at least acknowledge your theory is both more convoluted and has more unexplained ends than mine, you're delusional

>>938218078 (OP)
Feminism. Same reason lesbians still enjoy dick-shaped dildos.

>>938227822
There are two things you pointed out which I believe support my theory.

The first is that society generally promotes heterosexuality, this increases the taboo nature of liking cocks as a man. Acknowledging this can be arousing because it's shocking and taboo, it's why some people get turned on by cheating, or being cucked, or scat. What this means is that traps/trannies can cause a level of arousal that your good old vanilla B/G porn can't, but only because it's socially taboo and naughty. This is what I was getting at in >>938227472. This can be enticing to those with a pornography addiction and lack of real sexual partners. And once they nut to it, the wiring begins.

The second thing you mentioned is that men are more visual, which is correct. This is why men are especially susceptible to pornography addiction which is only visual and auditory. The physical touch, taste, pheromones, and social interaction are removed. I think this is why the men in this thread claim they like cock but don't like men. They've associated cocks with the traps/trannies they see in porn and developed neural wiring that turns them on when they see it. But all the guys that they interact with in -real- life? "Hell nah dude I'm not gay".

As for my theory being complex, I think that goes with the territory. I'm actually suspicious of your theory because it seems too simple.

>>938227880
Phallic packaging for womans spray deodorant sell more apparently

>>938228383
It's really no surprise to me that the cocks posted ITT are attached to bodies that present as women. Hell, you even hear people talk about liking 'feminine' cocks etc.

>>938228383
Liking cock but not men is simple and complex. Straights do this to. They have girls they'd fuck and girls they'd marry. However, like cocks but not guys could also be denial. It could be a lot of things, but you are contradicting yourself again. You're saying it's taboo therefore enticing, but isn't kissing a man both? But that doesn't work inside your frame work?

Let's try this. Be fair. What parts of my theory dint explain the examples you've given?

If I see a hi res photo of a penis, it doesn't sicken me... but when people here on 4ch upload their dickpicks - I just cant bear to look at them and I'm not sure why

>>938228808
I'm not denying the existence of gay men. You said it could be a lot of things, and that's exactly the point. Sure, there are men out there who may be turned on by kissing another man, and it may have something to do with it being taboo, or it may not, but they aren't the men we are talking about in this thread.

My argument was that pornography can lead to (and even be the cause of) the phenomenon we are discussing ITT - where some men claim to like cocks but yet aren't attracted to men.

Your theory provides an explanation but I think it's too simple as it doesn't include how social taboos, experience, exposure to pornography, and neural rewiring due to sexual experiences can actually lead to new sexual fetishes.

With that said, this might find us a middle ground. I'm not entirely against the idea that perhaps a man would have always been destined to find cocks attractive, even with no exposure in real life or via pornography, in the way that you described with your greentext. However, I think that in today's day an age, especially on forums like this, the phenomenon we are discussing is largely due to pornography. That is to say that a lot of men would never have this attraction if it wasn't for porn. Some may have developed it after being groomed, for some in may have been more innate or 'by nature'.

>>938229361
>Your theory provides an explanation but I think it's too simple as it doesn't include how social taboos, experience, exposure to pornography, and neural rewiring due to sexual experiences can actually lead to new sexual fetishes.
1. I already agree with this generally. For example, some men get sexually aroused by bras. Not on women. Some guys jerk off just using a bra. This can't possibly be a fetish you are born with, so obviously some fetishes are acquired. I'm open to acknowledging that liking cocks because you're a cuck is a way you can "acquire" a cock fetish. However, in both of those examples, I believe those are acquired.tastes because they are the most logical and simplest explanation. We all do this all the time. If you couldn't find your phone in the morning and you know it tends to fall under your bed, the most logic and simple assumption would be it fell under your bed again. Is it possible that you pissed someone off without knowing it, so they tip toed into your room like a stealthy ninja and stole it? Yes. It that situation more complex? Yes. Would you ever accept that scenario over the simple explanation? You never would. Making something complex for the sake of making it complex is retarded.

2. My theory does account for taboo, experience, and exposure. My theory literally hinges on them. Do me a favor and imagine you have never tasted sugar in your entire life, and you live somewhere that hates sugar. Answer this question.
>Do you like sugar?
What do you think your answer will be? Obviously no. You're supposed to say no.

Another reason I like my theory over yours is because it explains other things we rarely think to question. Why do men like vaginas? Because they're told to? Under your frame work, men like vaginas because they're told to and dicks because they're told not to. I'm really not trying to be a dick but your framework seriously is full of contradictions.

>>938229361
>That is to say that a lot of men would never have this attraction if it wasn't for porn. Some may have developed it after being groomed, for some in may have been more innate or 'by nature'.
If I'm being fair, then at best, this claim works with both of our frameworks. It doesn't prove either or.

If you are wired to like sugar and never get to taste cake, exposure will change that.

I'll admit that the grooming question is very complicated. I don't think we have a definite answer in if grooming changes sexuality. However, if I want to be a dick, I could point out that girls get groomed by men at significantly higher rates than boys yet are more likely to report being bi/gay rather than straight.

>>938230036
For your 1), the stealthy ninja proposition is indeed more complex, but it isn't as rational nor likely as the other option. My claim is that my theory is complex but also rational and likely. In addition, my claim is that my theory explains more and is therefore more encompassing, i.e. a better theory, despite its complexity. Thus, I don't think your comparison is fair, though obviously generally I agree you shouldn't make things complex -just- for the sake of complexity.

Also, are you claiming that it's possible to only develop sexual fetishes to man made objects, and that any fetish related to another human's body, regardless of when it happens, must have been innate? What's your reasoning for this?

For your 2), you're misunderstanding my framework. I have already stated that people have sexual tastes for many reasons, some of which may be innate. In the case of men liking vaginas, that's largely innate. Although the language surrounding it, and the clout and masculine power a man feels when conquering it may be learned. A man's taste for specific presentations of a vagina may be heavily influenced by porn, which is why people claim that porn can lead to unhealthy or unrealistic expectations. In the case of men liking dicks but not men, particularly those that started off on B/G porn but now find themselves having a folder of tranny porn on their hard drive, my conclusion is that, unsurprisingly, tranny porn or traps had something to do with it.

I don't think my framework is full of contradictions, it's just nuanced as there are many contributing factors, which include innate behaviours and learn behaviours from external factors (such as pornography). I either haven't articulated it well or you are misunderstanding me.

I just think it's innate to be aroused by cocks. If not innate, very very common. Porn for men has hard cocks and cum in it, often several, often being the focus, and the cumshot is the climax where many viewers choose to orgasm. Many guys will say "I'm not aroused by the cock I'm aroused by imagining it's my cock fucking her" but I think that's a post-hoc interpretation of what is happing, which is getting aroused by looking at a cock.

>>938230207
Indeed, I think it's possible that porn can either awaken an innate attraction for something (supports your theory), or in many cases, actually be the cause of that attraction (supports my theory).

>>938230695
>Also, are you claiming that it's possible to only develop sexual fetishes to man made objects
No. Feet aren't primary sexual characteristics, but foot fetish is real.
>and that any fetish related to another human's body, regardless of when it happens, must have been innate?
No.
Let's try this.
>Are vaginas the primary sexual characteristic of females?
>Do straight guys innately like vaginas?
>Do straight guys innately like all girls attached to the vaginas they like?
Your answers should be yes then yes then no. So we already agree there's is a distinction between liking females and liking female genitalia. Some guys like girly girls, some guys like dominant girls. Let's just call this a distinction between sex and gender.

If we agree that your sexual attraction isn't the same as your gender attraction (although they often align), then both of our frameworks need to answer new questions.
>Are dicks the primary sexual characteristics of males?
We both probably agree here so my next questions to you are
>Why do we agree men are innately attracted to vaginas but assume attraction to dick is more complex
>Why do we agree that men can like a woman's sex but not gender, but you feel the question is more complex men and dicks?
The evolution answer can only take us so far since we agree not all sexual attraction is purely evolutionary.

Under my framework, it's perfectly logical to be attracted to dicks but not men for a huge host of reasons. Maybe you're in denial. Maybe men are more visually attracted to things and women have much more visual sexual indicators. Maybe guys like trannies because they see sex (vaginas and dicks) as neutral but genders (gals and guys) as dominant or submissive.

This board is already filtering for a certain type of guy (autistic introverts, etc) The same way a bar is filtering for extroverted, chatty people. Then each thread filters for a specific type of person. Any thread you post about a girl is inherently a group fap.

>>938231702
I liked this chain of reasoning and the way you articulated it, though I think the evolutionary argument takes us pretty damn far for why men are innately attracted to vaginas, and not dicks - since that is how our species has reproduced and evolved for millions of years. Again, I'm not against the idea that a given man might be innately attracted to dicks, but I don't think it's the norm, and I think that gradual fetishization via something like pornography is required in many cases.

I think that the fact that men are more visual also supports my theory, it's just that the visual attraction is learned via a visual medium (pornography). And I also agree that this board selects for a certain kind of guy who may fall down the 'rabbit hole' of tranny porn etc in the manner I described here: >>938227472

>>938220790
Dude, have you seen the old movie "Conspiracy Theory" with Mel Gibson? Because that's exactly what you sound like!
>Inside your head must be a miserable place to live!

>>938232303
>I think the evolutionary argument takes us pretty damn far for why men are innately attracted to vaginas, and not dicks
Not really. The evolution argument explains attraction to vagina, but doesn't really explain anything for dicks. As an example, some people believe in the semen competitive cue which suggests that males get hard when they see other hard males because it means there may be a female around to compete for. I don't know if I fully buy into that theory, but I only bring it up to point out that evolution doesn't give a reason to assume seeing a dick should be a turn off or on for males. It could reasonably go a few ways.
>Again, I'm not against the idea that a given man might be innately attracted to dicks, but I don't think it's the norm
We aren't talking about the norm. That's my problem. I feel like you're trying to figure out what Gamestop employees do to make customers prefer games over movies, or what Burger King is doing to make customers hate the gym.
>I think that the fact that men are more visual also supports my theory, it's just that the visual attraction is learned via a visual medium (pornography).
If we took 100 verified straight guys and forced them to watch scat play everyday for a month straight, I don't think most would come away with a scat fetish. Scat fetish is acquired, and for the most part, only people are predisposed to liking it. I feel if you are truly repulsed by dicks, it's very hard to make you like them unless you have a kink for being forced to do things.

>>938233973
>Not really. The evolution argument explains attraction to vagina, but doesn't really explain anything for dicks
It indicates that a male's innate attraction to vaginas are vital for survival, which is more than can be said for dicks. You might argue that an attraction for dicks would be counterproductive as it could be a distraction. The semen competitive cue is interesting, but if it's true, I'm still not sure how much of a role that would have played in our ancient ancestors. Humans have been clothed and largely monogamous for a long time, and males are generally protective of their females so they can guarantee the child is theirs. I think another dude spawning a boner because he's ready to pipe your girl wouldn't have gone down too well.

>We aren't talking about the norm. That's my problem
I'm not sure when you became arbiter of the conversation, but you challenged my view and so I continued justifying my views.

>If we took 100 verified straight guys and forced them to watch scat play everyday for a month straight, I don't think most would come away with a scat fetish.
I wouldn't disagree with this at all. Scat is vile and objectively dangerous, there are evolved reasons why people are generally repelled by it. But because of that, it's far worse that dicks and therefore probably not the best comparison.

>I feel if you are truly repulsed by dicks, it's very hard to make you like them unless you have a kink for being forced to do things.
I agree with this. But I don't think that non-attraction immediately means repulsed by. But yeah, I can imagine a lot of guys becoming aroused by the thought of dicks if it were an attractive female telling them that they are gonna be forced to in a femdom setting. I believe that could result in an attraction for dick if they nutted enough times to the thought, because despite the fact that men are visual, it's the thoughts and feelings that the visual stimuli elicits that often causes arousal.

>>938233973
Anyway, this has been a very interesting conversation. You've encouraged me to articulate my thoughts much better and have brought up some very interesting ideas. Unfortunately I have to bail as we have been at this for several hours now.

>>938218078 (OP)
My belief is it comes from watching porn from a young age. Watching woman ride a big dick all the time you start to like the look of the dick aswell.

>>938234745
>I'm not sure when you became arbiter of the conversation
This is the only thing you've said that annoyed me because >>938227880
>I think this is why the men in this thread claim they like cock but don't like men.
and
>>938229361
>the phenomenon we are discussing ITT
I'm following your topic.
>>938234799
Yeah been fun.
>>938235004
>My belief is it comes from watching porn
And this one is retarded. I miss the other guy already. I'm good. Believe what you want.

>>938235444
You should analyse it further then. lol