Thread 938405341

I'm a spic who's going to take the C1 English exam tomorrow for a job opportunity and I still don't know the difference between "should" and "ought to"

>>938405341 (OP)
They are the same. Also dont call yourself a spic, have some self respect and dignity.

>>938405372
Thanks, you wholesome fuck. <3

No one anywhere says "Ought to I?" They all say "Should I?".
Pop "What is the difference between should and ought to?" into chatgpt for a good explanation. It seems unimportant though. If anyone is failing you over that it sounds unreasonable.

>>938405341 (OP)
Ought to is, or at least sounds, more formal than should. I think that's the biggest difference.

>>938405695
Ought I to chop up some more wood, sire?

>>938405731
I always thought "ought to" sounded like something you'd say with a moral connotation. Like something of importance was involved.

>>938405812
That is not proper English. Don't ask me why but no native English speaker would talk that way unless they were messing around.
No one even uses ought and if someone did I only see it as "I ought to...", "You ought to...", and "It ought to...". Just replace ought to with should.

>>938408159
Wrong. Read a book by Dickens (Great Expectations) and plenty of characters used "ought to" in the interrogative form.

>>938408291
>I only see it as
You gonna tell me I am wrong as if you know what I see better than I? That is rich.

>>938408291
should is more of a suggestion, ought to is more of a demand

>>938410618
'You ought to help your brother with the moving expenses'

Would that sound stronger than using 'should'?

>>938410761
NTA
Kinda yes and kinda no. To start with I see no reason to know the following information as it is not something officially recognized by a dictionary. It is more of a cultural quirk.

I suppose the other anon is right but only slightly. You can hear parents using ought to instead of should when they are telling their kid to go do something. It technically is not an order but only technically. The parent no doubt fully expects their kid to do as they said.
In this case ought and should can be used interchangeably and there is no difference in meaning but someone might take it as being looked down on or treated as in an inferior position depending on the circumstance. As such it might be perceived a bit like condescension or an order. That however is mainly up to personal interpretation and tone of voice.

>>938405341 (OP)
I got the C2 just to read degen porn slop on AO3, good luck anon

>>938414823
I just want this shit to be over with and go back to my futa porn. This woma has a baby's arm down there and fucks the entire camp

I got laid the same day of my C1 and C2 tests. Good times, try to get some bitches anon

>>938416476
How's fucking a hoe gonna help me

>>938416556
Idk, I got a panic attack between use of English and listening, and she pat-pat my head and I got a kiss. 2 months later 200points. so yeah, It helps

>>938417007
Damn impressive. Too bad my exam is tomorrow so I am just going to spend the rest of the night browsing this shit hole and watching anime. Maybe I'll have a fap.

>>938405341 (OP)
as an ESL myself, I haven't gotten any decent answers to that either. looks like a mere matter of "emphasis".
on the other hand, there's no word or phrase to distinguish the two types of "should":
(1) I am optimistic that this will be true, but not sure
"Try . It should work."
(2) this is not true, but I wish it were based on not just my own wishes but on higher considerations/moral/sense of justice
" should work. Those bastards are slacking."

"supposed to" as a replacement for "should" doesn't help. it can be used in both contexts, with the same issue and no gain in clarity.

>>938405695
Ought you?
Ought you to?

>>938417099
Pretty doomed.
Welp, to take some stress out of the situation, you might not even get the job even if you pass.
Don't fap, you might get laid afterwards, it happened to me

>>938417405
Can always count on my /b/ros for some encouragement.

>>938405341 (OP)
Should is broad.
You "should" do something, isn't the same as "I ought to do something."
Should implies obligation, Ought to implies that it would be good of you to do it, but you're not obliged.
You ought to clean your room,
You should clean your room.
One is telling you to clean your room, one is suggesting that your room is dirty and it would be good to clean it.

>>938418312
Does it really matter to native speakers

>>938405341 (OP)
Your English is better than 90% of burgers. Dumb it down a little or they'll think you're cheating /s

>>938405341 (OP)
"ought to" could be thought of as more like "really should", but I can't think of a situation where you couldn't replace "should" with "really should"

>>938418312
>should anon suck that cock
Doesn't imply obligation. Your examples are reversed

>>938419182
who's talking about sucking cock. If anything I should be first. OP I'm ready

>>938417208
Both are wrong

>>938419342
It was the most obvious lack of obligation example I could think of & fit where I am; plus OP's a faggot by default

>>938419389
Ought I have to serve supper tonight again, mum? I thought it was Frederick's turn.

>>938419508
>Ought I have to
This isn't English

>>938419508
>tonight again
That's wrong too. It'd be "again tonight"

>>938420044
Damn. Nice dubs, tough.

>>938420316
woohoo

>>938420443
Off by one.

>>938420517
kek

Why the fuck is there thread about ought to?
It is just a posh way to say should.

Op, inshallah you do well, if you been studying there is nothing to worry. I never learn my abc, nor I learned how to spell the days of the week and their order, yet I got C2.
No jk, I DO NOT know the days of the week

>>938420861
My favorite bullshit "posh" word is tantamount. There's no situation where "like" couldn't be used instead

>>938421386
Cunt.

>>938422144
Cunt to you too my friend. Is this a greeting in your native language?

>>938422378
No. I just call people cunt and wait for their reaction. Nothing personel, kid.

>>938422567
I know lol. I thought I'd give you a unique response

>>938419508
Either of the below are ok but they have slightly different meanings. If you are placing an "I" directly after the word ought instead of in front of it you are likely doing something wrong.
Do I have to serve supper again tonight?
Should I serve supper again tonight?

>>938420044
Wat is wrong with tonight again? It is not how people normally talk but I see nothing wrong with it.

>>938424071
ESL fags need to be put down.

>>938424071
Dunno, but it is. I was curious & found this
>Adverbs of frequency, such as “always,” “usually,” and “sometimes,” are typically placed before the main verb in a sentence.

>>938424071
The only reference to "tonight again" I could find is an Australian song title, but Australians don't speak English so that doesn't count ;)

>>938405341 (OP)
Well, you ought to know the difference by now. Anyone who's been living in an English-speaking country for several years should be able to tell you.

>>938405341 (OP)
Ought to is old timey. Should is more regular and used in normal speech. I think the brits still use shall and must more than ameritards. Should, must, ought to, they're the same with very little difference.

>>938424526
Ignore this, I just noticed it says "verb"