Thread 938414144

Why did AI loose?

lack of soul

Because you can't actually put a LLM that's prone to making shit up into important positions. The only jobs "AI" is taking is jobs from call center jeets.

A shitload of IT jobs are being lost THOUGH
>umm actually it's for a completely different reason
I don't believe you

>>938414147
I'll take AI over Indians

>>938414146
You don't hire AI, dumbass. You just make your team of 10 people start using AI and then fire 5 of them because the remaining 5 are working twice as fast

Also nobody actually wants AI. its being pushed on us. ask the average normalfag at work what they think about the AI in their adobe reader or whatsapp and youll see exactly where the AI hype stands.

>>938414146
>Prone to
It's designed to.
Remember this shit is literally designed for stealing people's shit and farting out a plausibly legally distinct copy and hoping "Computer" is a good enough explanation to investors and the geriatrics in congress.

>>938414149
>the remaining 5 are working twice as fast

lol

>>938414146
>center jeets.
thats not even a new thing either. people have hated automated systems for decades. Part of the reason american call centers still exist at all is because the boomers HATE talking to robots.

>>938414152
its true. working twice as fast making something a fifth as good.

The people who hype AI are either selling it to you or are engaging in magical thinking, or they are Indian.

>>938414144 (OP)
As someone who has worked with LLMs from before they became mainstream I could write an entire novel and what they are and are not useful for and why that is the case.
But I'll just say this: "AI" is not capable of doing many of the jobs people want it to do and the only reason it is getting pushed is because the people who created the corporations were really, really charismatic liars who sold the idea of "AI" to VCs who spent billions and now they are looking for places to shove it in to justify the price tag.

PS. Stop using the term "AI", because "AI" does not exist. They are LLMs.

>>938414144 (OP)
Not reliable enough. You'll still need human intervention to check on it for a long while and of course the humans need to be skilled enough to identify and fix those issues.

>>938414144 (OP)
>loose
GOOD MORNING SIR

>>938414155
the things AI can do seem amazing until you sit down and try to use it or interact with it.
>it'll replace movies!
it can only do 30 sec to a min of video and costs you hundreds of dollars if you have a subscription service
>music!
sounds souless to acceptable sometimes.
>voices!
pretty good for specific cases but still very noticeable and limited in performance
>art!
art is subjective. People liked "AI Art" even when it was shitty.
>code!
i dont know enough about coding but it looks like AI cant replace an entire college educated and experienced coder yet, just code monkeys., an not even all the way.

And thats with a lot of LLMs already topping out on their training data. We're at the top of the crest.

>>938414159
>We're at the top of the crest.
so it seems until you realize AI can be fed real time audio and text conversation data as well as every photo and video made on earth via smartphones and once they tap into that its fucking over bro

>>938414159
>art is subjective. People liked "AI Art" even when it was shitty.
my favorite AI "art" i've ever seen was from when it was in its infancy. i don't think it's even capable of making something this abstract anymore and it's still basically just a mix of dark fantasy themes

>>938414159
>>938414161
>heh AI art was good when it could barely gen anything at all
So we're at that stage of luddite contrarianism huh. Well it is an improvement

>>938414155
>>938414159
>Try messing around with ChatGPT's writing for coom reasons
>After a few days pick up all of its quirks and bullshit
>Em dashes literally become boner killers for me now

>>938414160
they have already supposedly fed it the entirety of human history to this point and peoples teeth in videos still change shape, voice acting sounds electronic, art has a noticeable style, and chatgpt on the consumer level will still poison you if you ask for a recipe. im am whelmed.

ai is just too inconsistent and makes stupid mistakes humans don't make that ultimately you still need people to tard wrangle.

>>938414144 (OP)
>loose

>>938414161
looks like it was trying to do impressionism. pretty close.

>>938414156
nope not gonna work
since chinks, pajeets, and gooks want to rip the whole world off with all the gibberish on AI they have been constantly murmuring from the day zero
and your ceos and "experts" will continue on conjuring up false images and impossible promises so that they can keep up with the hype

>>938414162
>luddite contrarianism
no, just the truth.

>>938414144 (OP)
There's still been massive layoffs to make up for all the money they're burning on AI
No one wants to miss out on what the investoids think is the next internet bubble so they'll keep chasing AI that actually does something useful at the expense of everything else

>>938414163
It's not just an orgasm – it's a moment of existential reevaluation, pure bliss and ecstasy. heres a five point list with emoji bullet points of what she yells while cumming:

>>938414168
It is literally that CEOs and VCs have to force LLMs into places they don't belong to retroactively justify the bill of goods they were sold.

>>938414144 (OP)
I don't care if it takes 2 years or 5 for the first jobs to melt away. It's still a great idea to invest now before it truly explodes. You literally have no excuse to not buy a few stocks of a promising established not overpriced player,

>>938414173
not taking over your bag, bro. keep holding though.

It can only replace female dominated administrative jobs, and they need work to be kept for having babies.

>this entire thread of trannies complaining about ai making patreon artists obsolete
How does it feel to sound word-for-word like the top comment on reddit when ai is mentioned?

>>938414170
>>938414173
ai stocks arnt even mooning that hard relatively. It's funny how antis are bringing up AUUD now which had to have the most dedicated shill team for a penny stock possible this year. The top trending stocks in stock communities are still just generic biotech. I guess "ai is a dot com bubble" is the latest gaslighting technique from antis after the "water usage crisis",

>>938414175
it makes the entirety of onlyfans obsolete. lol.

>>938414175
GOOD MORNING, SAAR!

>>938414176
The best thing about AI is that leftist trannies hate it because it is taking their art jobs, right wingers hate it because indians love it. The only people who like AI are retards who think typing a prompt makes them cool, and then the people who sell AI to gullible retards.

>>938414177
>antis couldn't get r/defendingaiart banned off reddit so now they are pandering to /pol/ boomers
kek.

>>938414178
>right wingers hate it
lol nope. Grok is used all the time in actual right wing hobbies like the stock trading community. hating ai is the most favorite leftist past time now. Leftists now raid niche hobby communities to get ai banned, just like they did for woke shit in vidya.

For me AI is just a fun toy to play with and I wish more people would see it this way. Old 4chan would be all over this shit. Remember that one comic generator from like 20 years ago? Remember Akinator? People seemed to be fine with this stuff when it was still primitive, but the moment it gets good it's like a switch flipped in their heads and you can't even bring it up anymore without being called a jeet or a nazi, depending where you are at the moment. I get all those shills pushing it and using it in the worst way possible can be annoying, but that doesn't mean you can't have fun with it yourself.

>>938414175
>they need work to be kept for having babies.
nmp

>>938414181
>I get all those shills pushing it and using it in the worst way possible can be annoying
"Can be annoying" is the understatement of the century in both just how omnipresent they are and how deeply embedded into positions of power its truest believers are

>>938414147
Anecdotally, I saw an "IT Guy" my company hired get fired within 2 months. Turns out he was what they referred to as the "new AI guy". He was supposed to do "AI stuff".
Fucking regional dude comes trapsing through my office complaining to me that the shit doesn't work half the time as though that's my job.

Because ai is as soulless as those who push for it.

It's an automated text generator that guesses things wrong 50% of the time.

>>938414181
>Remember that one comic generator from 20 years ago
You clearly don't
Because that comic generator killed rageface comics.
4chan used to have whole threads of OC rageface comics and they were a blast. Then they became even a little bit popular, so someone made a rageface comic generator. I think it was on Icanhazcheezburger, or some similar website.
Within a fuckin week nobody wanted to make OC rageface comics anymore because fucking ***everyone*** could make one with minimal effort. Mind you, they were already minimal effort because most of them were literally cobbled together with copypasted ragefaces and MSPaint drawn bodies, but no, it had to be made EVEN EASIER because some fuckin retards couldn't be assed to even open MS Paint.

Comparing AI genned shit to the comic generator from back then is actually a perfect comparison and I don't think you even meant it to be.

/a/ in the 2000s
>would literally take pics of an expensive dinner in front of a laptop screen of their waifu
/a/ now with GPT 5.0 character dedicated models
>"why would anyone want this? It's just pushed by jeets!"

>>938414188
Literally
>Soul
vs
>Soulless

>>938414187
templates/ease of access killed creativity

>>938414189
so do you charge $500 or $1000 of cosplay pics of peoples waifu on patreon?

>>938414191
I don't even know what you were trying to say with this

>>938414188
how the fuck would an AI know what i feel for my waifu? why would i want to offload my devotion to my waifu to it to begin with?
you don't have a waifu, you don't even know what one is, you just think that's what all anime girls are called because you are the target audience for AI gen

>>938414144 (OP)
i saw an image recently where a tech bro AI enthusiast was holding his infant child. he proudly said "he's doubled in weight since he was born. at this rate he's going to weigh a trillion tons when he's 18"

>>938414146
Well it can also do art too which is what most retards are seething about

>>938414185
I don't think the AI version looks better, but he's not wrong about everything else.

>>938414144 (OP)
It's because you can't monetize it. If it's free and everyone can do it, it's worthless.

>Gamedev is so easy that there's a massive bloat of shovelware and indie games
>Can literally copy and paste premade assets on Unreal Engine
>Actual 3rd world morons with 70IQ and 12 year olds can make games now
>This is apparently still too much work for your average AI fag
At some point you just have to feel pathetic right

>>938414198
post your game

AI is just garbage for idiots

>>938414199
Struck a nerve did I

>>938414198
>dood just make an assetflip
i don't want to make an asset flip.

>>938414144 (OP)
>loose
Esl faggots

>>938414201
isn't it easy?

>>938414202
>I don't want to make an asset flip
>Instead I'll use AI
The irony is so earth shattering

>>938414197
Not really. Art is valued for the artist's vision so it can be used to create interesting things especially as it improves.
>>938414198
>prefering assets to AI models
Actual retardation on display from you

>>938414144 (OP)
Graphic Designer here, I'm actually getting more work lately due to AI
Zoomers and Boomers just suck ass at storing and compressing files in their cellphones, they aways lose or corrupt everything and call me to fix or vetorize something. They stated that they asked Chat GPT how to fix it themselves they refuse to learn new terminology or read anything longer than three paragraphs, people today can't even watch Youtube tutorials anymore
That's the scary part, people are not even able to properly ASK for robots to do things. I had a 20 something guy who did a back in forth of over 80 messages trying to ask the bot to increase the image's height, he didn't knew what vertical and horizontal meant

>>938414204
It is easy, I'm sure if I wanted to, I could.
I never tried because I don't want to.
Not everyone who enjoys sandwiches wants to become a chef.
AI niggers are people who like sandwiches who microwave a Hungry Man meal and claim they're chefs.

>>938414208
lol

>>938414152
AND for half the pay

>>938414207
>That's the scary part, people are not even able to properly ASK for robots to do things
maybe we should be telling our tech overlords to use AI to help us LEARN and not just do everything FOR us

>>938414191
...No anon, most used their imagination or learned to draw thenselves... What the fuck were you doing with your money until now?

>>938414205
No, it isn't. You just don't know what you're talking about.

>>938414144 (OP)
The people smart enough to learn how to use AI for their workflows are already the top performers. Your average pencil pushers and middle managers(i.e. most people) will just continue what they're doing and see it as a toy, or an e-mail writer at best.

>>938414144 (OP)
I just want ai npcs in games

>>938414214
>The people smart enough to learn how to use AI for their workflows
How does one use AI *for* their workflow without it disrupting or replacing their workflow entirely?

>>938414159
>i dont know enough about coding but it looks like AI cant replace an entire college educated and experienced coder yet, just code monkeys., an not even all the way.
That's more or less correct, AI is a helper at best. It's good at shitting out small snippets, but collapses under its weight for anything beyond the scale of ~7 code files, because it's simply incapable of holding big enough context for that. There's a long way to go before managers can just put AI in front of a complex project documentation and watch it set up a whole codebase with all the needed integrations without any help from human programmers, or tell it to fix issues in a huge existing infrastructure.

>>938414148
As someone who works in a major tech company's IT department, I can assure you that we are laying off American workers while continuing to hire in India and the Phillipines.

>>938414181
I think it's funny Akinator has more intelligence than what those researchers are making.

>>938414144 (OP)
AI can't take responsibility, or atleast the responsibility will fall completely into the management if it fucks up. Why would they want that? Better pay minimal wage to some jeet to keep doing his job, if he fucks up its his fault

>>938414216
>I need niche functionality that I don't want to have to waste time learning because I'll only use it once
>Grok, make a generic case I can adapt to my whims
>YES MASTER

A problem that would take hours to solve can be done in ten minutes.

>>938414190
ease of access kills everything

>>938414144 (OP)
Why would it "take" jobs? If ai is used to fill that persons former role then they're free to do something else with their time. They're still on the companies payroll why would they fire them when they could just redirect them unto something more productive when they could clearly afford them from before?

>>938414211
Sure, just public libraries and the internet acess made EVERYONE smarter
Most people are adverse to learning, it's in their nature

>>938414223
>They're still on the companies payroll why would they fire them
so that they won't get to leak the rest of the horrible shit said company is about to do in the name of AI or have the right to complain about it at all? just a thought

>>938414159
Ai is definitely perfect for image and voice as in its does exactly what you want after a little tinkering. Music is like half good half bad, but really hard to get "hits" which is almost all everyone listens to. Code is REALLY good at simple things but bad with complex things so good for tinkerers but not enterprise software. Movies yea good luck with that, they look good but its not gonna be a full movie like with the writing and structure of what people consider a movie. Short little videos are definitely doable. I could see it replacing tiktok whores easily.

>>938414188
>he is too stupid to orchestrated his own schizophrenia
I know it begs repeating but THE STATE OF NEWFAGS

I don't think it functions for anything aside from the most surface level stuff, and you're still gonna need a person to check it's work.
I was asking chat GPT about naval history stuff, and it told me that Bismarck was built under the terms of Versailles.
That's ridiculously incorrect, and hardly obscure knowledge

>>938414147
this. human programmers are no longer needed.

>>938414144 (OP)
The whole premise of capitalism is that labor is divided up into units of production that's delegated to workers.
And AI could not only do all this labor but integrate it in an automatic system that essentially replaced everyone who stares at a screen or excel sheet all day.
Fags hate it because they see the writing on the wall and it's a future that doesn't include their overprices STEM degrees.

>>938414144 (OP)
It's not fully autonomous yet and there is too much concern by faggots about "safety and muh regulations"
Once AI can run 24/7 with zero human oversight is the time to look forward to
Human beings are the bottleneck

>>718028232
You are trying so hard to get history right but failing in every metric, that ill give 1 pity reply.

In the 2000s, the waifu subgroup in the anime community had actual heated debates if dating Japanese women was on par with anime girls. This whole "no. the goal has always been to date a woman who acts like your waifu" is the biggest rewrite possible.
>no, actually the waifu community was some weird existential exercise where the waifu is always unattainable
lmao. On 2000s /a/, rich buyfags would purchase $10,000 mannequins to replicate their waifu. The famous Japanese guy that married Miku, tried talking to a software program everyday.
>no. we just drew our waifu
this is how I could immediately tell you didnt know what you were talking about. /a/ in the 2000s shat on every non Japanese artist. There was no "just learn to draw anime" because it was intuitively associated with fake weebs on deviantart. Not even Chinese or Korean "anime" artists were considered legit.

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>>938414144 (OP)
It was always vaporware for the rubes to invest in. Just like self-driving cars and crypto.

>>938414144 (OP)
It's a borderline scam. There's a huge gap between what AI cultists say AI can do and what it can actually do. Then there's the claim that we're nearing AGI, which is a whole other level of retardation.

>>938414144 (OP)
A lot of Jobs were already lost to AI well before this hype cycle

>>938414211
>>938414224
tptb want the masses to learn as little as possible.
conflict of interest

>>938414145
Mostly shell, no ghost

>>938418867
ai isnt real, thats a meme that someone made up, they will have to come up with more bullshit now to make you believe that they do.

>>938414226
>Ai is definitely perfect for image and voice
lol. lmao.
>a little tinkering
so like 10 plus hours of your life and god only knows how much money. for mixed results. lol.
>movies, they look good
not really.
>I could see it replacing tiktok whores easily.
probably, an definitely ads that fool people into buying things. Even with several billion dollars and the entirety of human civilization pumped into it, thats the best it can do? SAD!

>>938414311
oh okay, i guess the AI can improve itself now? reatrd

>>938414647
>Once AI can run 24/7 with zero human oversight is the time to look forward to
i dont think human beings will ever want that. people will always want to be in control.

>>938414144 (OP)
How is a computer program going to pick up your drunk girlfriend and eat her pussy while you're passed out in the passengers seat?

>>938414144 (OP)
The same reason copy machines didn’t replace secretaries.

>>938425815
you cant have sex with it, correct.

More over, the thing these AI are always going to have trouble with is anticipating your whim. You are not a machine, you are a hairless ape that wears pants and pretends it's better than nature. You are irrational sometimes and reactionary. The AIs can get pretty good at predicting you, but to be human is to be unpredictable by our nature. an AI could theoretically get to know you so well it figures out you like Loli porn without you ever actually saying it or looking it up and then one day it suggests some to you and you would get pissed and tell it never to do that again because it might be true but its an aspect of yourself you do not like.

>>938414181
Shutup jeet

>>938425845
>yet!

>>938414144 (OP)
I love it AI. I work for an antiquated sector where one of our most vital systems is msdos. I use AI to automate most of my shit and spend the rest of the my free time playing games or small day trading. I get paid almost a six-figure salary for maybe 2 hours of work a day. What I make day trading pushes me over. I tried showing my boss how I use it, she pretty much said that she's close enough to retirement that she's just gonna coast until then. I'm next in line for her job and would be able to automate almost all of my tasks.

>>938414144 (OP)
>few signs

yet thousands of job cuts in programming and design have been made leaving entire work forces stranded to find a job companies insists a robot can do better and cheaper.

>I need a landing page for my business along with a nice logo and the whole branding.
>Yes sir, it'll be $5k
>That's great, nice job kid, call me next month I have a client that's opening his second store and will need your creativity.

Whereas today:
>$5k? I'm gunna let my son do it with chatgeepeetee for free so I can save money. I don't need no greedy "artists" like you scam me.

>>938414144 (OP)
because it isn't AI, it's just glorified pattern recognition. it's stupid and often gives wrong answers.

>>938414144 (OP)
it turns out matrix multiplication isn't AGI

>>938414144 (OP)
It lost because it was trained by the same people that want to destroy the world

The latest iteration of chatGPT seems almost arrogant in its ignorance.
I asked it to create a system of switches and gates in Fallout 4's manufacturing system to perform a task, and draw a diagram (essentially a virtual circuit using game mechanics).
It did, and I point out that part of it won't work because of a mistake it made, and suggest a correction to bypass the error.
I'm pretty sure it used to go "oh, I'm sorry, I see that now, here is the new version with your suggestion."
Now it argues and says that it knows it is correct and it will work.

I copied its suggestion in game, and it failed within 1 cycle at the exact point I thought it would.

>>938414148
There are Indian call centers that use AI to "americanize" their voice lol. So fuck you twice XD

>>938414144 (OP)
It uses the same material we use as well. People forget that AI also take stuff from the net. A place filled with material from idiots for idiots.

After all a machine is just as intelligent as the stupiest user in front of it

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>>938414144 (OP)
Time is on it's side

>>938414206
>Not really[...]
But who's the artist in case of AI art? And if that person can donit with a prompt, other people will as well. Companies suddenly have too much money to spend on this crap and they will engage in a prompt war? Bro, no. This shit has zero value unoess they manage to gatekeep it somehow. Something that I believe they can't do.

>>938414159
The real measure of AI illustration is how well it can be used to replace things like wall decorations and corporate logo design. Art in museums was always the minority of workers in the field but its place as a status symbol means human-made art will win out even if AI makes a superior product (look at lab vs natural diamonds)