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Anonymous No.938530859 >>938530993 >>938531406 >>938531583 >>938531631 >>938531999 >>938532053 >>938532690 >>938532806 >>938532846 >>938532850 >>938539601
Why do Christians bully everyone if Jesus said to love everyone?
Anonymous No.938530993 >>938531168 >>938531576 >>938532656 >>938536649
>>938530859 (OP)
They don't. It's just leftist propaganda. A few psychos do not represent an entire religion
Anonymous No.938531168 >>938531703 >>938532260
>>938530993
I'm an atheist but basically this.

Christians get shit on constantly and it's very obvious the culture is not christian. Also whoever made that cartoon doesn't know the bible.

Jesus spends way more time talking about hell than heaven in the bible. He's not this fuzzy purple dinosaur people make him out to be. He's very serious about people's sin separating them from god eternally.

I think the world would be better without Christianity but the idea that they're out here "bullying" people is laughable. They're the only ones actually doing any real volunteer work in the community
Anonymous No.938531406
>>938530859 (OP)
I think the kind of Christians you're referring to are the extremist nationalist types that have been crawling out of the woodwork since Trump came into office. Hegseth is linked to a pastor who's preaching women shouldn't have a right to vote and they should be subservient to men and all that crap. The interview was hilarious, the lady interviewing him had very interesting expressions on her face when he was spewing that shit
Anonymous No.938531576
>>938530993
there are a bit more than a few, but yes, the major christian movements aren`t the problem.

the reason op may think that way is that a lot of the problematic people, hide behind their religion and like miss use it like that.

on a last note there are smaller christian movements that are problematic like that
Anonymous No.938531583 >>938531831
>>938530859 (OP)
The same Jesus that told Moses to stone homosexuals and crossdressers?
Anonymous No.938531631
>>938530859 (OP)
They turn to religion because they aren't very morally or emotionally mature people.
And it gives them the guide to hate others in the name of salvation.
Which is ironic because Christianity is supposed to be about the "good news" Jesus delivered that you're talking about.
Anonymous No.938531703 >>938531953 >>938540304
>>938531168
jesus said to love everyone, not to push your religion on others, help the poor, etc. modern "christians" do the opposite of all of those.
Anonymous No.938531831 >>938531970
>>938531583
I only know leviticus 18 22, that forbids fucking a man like a woman, not all homosexuals(so technically the bottom is safe, just the top is the sinner) and especially not crossdressers.

please share your sources.
Anonymous No.938531953 >>938531983 >>938533005
>>938531703
You clearly haven't read the words of Jesus.

>jesus said to love everyone, not to push your religion on others

Dead Wrong.

Matthew 28:18
Go, therefore, and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit, teaching them to follow all that I commanded you; and behold, I am with you always, to the end of the age.

Mark 16:15
And He said to them, β€˜Go into all the world and preach the gospel to all creation. The one who has believed and has been baptized will be saved; but the one who has not believed will be condemned

Acts 1:8

β€œBut you will receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you; and you shall be My witnesses both in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and as far as the remotest part of the earth.


Also Christians do more to help the poor than any other group. Again, I'm an atheist but this kind of stuff just proves my original point.
Anonymous No.938531970 >>938532030 >>938539277
>>938531831
You guys really don't know the bible. Homosexuality is explicitly forbidden in multiple places in both the old and new testament.
Anonymous No.938531983 >>938532170
>>938531953
But why does everyone have to interpret the Bible the same way though?
You sort of beg the question by quoting Bible verses.
Anonymous No.938531999
>>938530859 (OP)

Trannies aren't people. They're subhuman demons life below life.
Anonymous No.938532030 >>938532170
>>938531970
like i said, please share the bible verses.
Anonymous No.938532053
>>938530859 (OP)

>Christians

>love everybody

I don't think you've ever fucking read a bible or even know why religion is even in existence, you know people chose to kill each-other because of their different kinds of indoctrination that became a great way to justify hatred & murder.
Anonymous No.938532170 >>938532243 >>938532473
>>938531983
Again, atheist speaking here. They don't "interpret it the same way" for a few reasons:

1. They don't actually study it.

2. The ones that study it usually don't do a good job.

3. They inherit a bunch of values from their culture, then show up to church believing what they already want to believe. If a pastor says their opinion is wrong, they say he's arrogant and then go to the church down the street.

If you're willing to recognize that the authors of the bible had an actual intended message they were trying to communicate and people aren't just supposed to be making shit up, then you already concede my point.

>>938532030
It's not my job to spoonfeed you information so you can try to wrap your little walnut around it. You have the internet. You don't want to believe it so you're going to rationalize it away, but here's some to get you started:

Leviticus 20:13

β€œIf there is a man who sleeps with a male as those who sleep with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they must be put to death. Their blood is on themselves.”

Romans 1:26–27

β€œFor this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged natural relations for that which is contrary to nature, and likewise the men, too, abandoned natural relations with women and burned in their desire toward one another, males with males committing shameful acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error.”

1 Corinthians 6:9–10 (NASB)

β€œOr do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor the greedy..."

1 Timothy 1:9–10 (NASB)

β€œβ€¦ those who are lawless and rebellious, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and worldly, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers, for the sexually immoral, homosexuals...and whatever else is contrary to sound teaching …”
Anonymous No.938532243 >>938532468 >>938532596
>>938532170
I don't care if you're an atheist.
The Bible isn't an emperical document, it's a set of stories and beliefs.
Jesus could have very well blessed a gay couple, but it was later removed or edited away by authors who deemed it necessary because it didn't agree with their cultural zeitgeist.
You can never be certain about any theology because the meanings and interpretation of the prose is always deferred.
Notice how you abstain from quoting verses that actually show Jesus telling you to love your neighbor.
You're doing it right now without being aware of it lol.
Anonymous No.938532260
>>938531168
Based
Anonymous No.938532322 >>938532343 >>938540348
hey guys all those crusaders and inquisition guys were practicing christianity wrong. it turns out jim bob's tranny church is the first to do it right!
Anonymous No.938532343
>>938532322
>It turns out Christianity from 1,000 years ago is just like the Christianity today.
Anonymous No.938532397
Yes siree that was the worst accident I I’ve seen
Anonymous No.938532468 >>938532521
>>938532243
This i why I don't argue with people about Christianity. You literally know nothing about the canonization process, can't differentiate between the Vulgate and the Septuagint, and wouldn't know exegesis or hermenutics if your life depended on it. You demand I give you verses and then just dismiss them by pulling some thing out of your ass that you have no clue how insane it sounds.

You'd have to be willing to believe homosexuality was openly practiced in Israel in literal BC era, the bible makes no mention of it besides saying it's obviously bad, Jesus "blessed a gay couple" in spite of the fact he didn't bless any couples and there were no gay couples in Israel at that time (because they would have been fucking stoned to death)..

I'm not even going to continue listing reasons about how obviously absurd htis is because you're just going to not read it or process it. Have fun getting your asshole fisted by your buddies at Unitrian church. I'm out.
Anonymous No.938532473 >>938532518
>>938532170
thanks for the quotes, yes i could search, but why should i if i already have somebody that will do it more precise and already have prior knowledge.

and to be honest: i didn`t wanted to be bothered to really research in a 2000 year old mary sue story. but the sources would be helpfull for this thread
Anonymous No.938532518
>>938532473
Like I said, I don't believe the bible account is real. But christians running around just making shit up about the bible really irks me. It's most christians now and I guess I should just be happy we're moving away from what it once was to a more tolerant world. I don't know. It just seems really dishonest and stupid.

It's like, be a man and drop the religion if you odn't believe it. Don't try to commandeer it and fuck it up for everyone trying to just be traditional and raise kids with Irish Catholic values or whatever.
Anonymous No.938532521 >>938532584
>>938532468
LOL
Got btfo that quick huh?
Yeah it's because you know I'm right. You can't come back from that because you're little,
>I'm a rational atheist but hating the rainbow brigade is based and Christ says so.
Was all bad faith to begin with.
Thanks for playing.
Anonymous No.938532554
Nobody is perfect.
Anonymous No.938532584 >>938532602
>>938532521
No you're just proving my point.

You don't see the irony of telling someone you know more about the bible then they do when you obviously haven't even made it past the first book?
Anonymous No.938532596 >>938532630
>>938532243
so you are saying that the bible is extremely inaccurate because its changed multiple times to fit the zeitgeist of the times it existed in....especially in the times it was just an oral tradition....

and still think that's a good basis for your believe?
Anonymous No.938532602 >>938532693
>>938532584
Then why emphasize the canonization of the literature without the geneology of its merit?
Or does that context only appear when it agrees with your argument?
Anonymous No.938532630 >>938532762
>>938532596
Why does belief have to have inherency?
If believing in Christ and loving others makes me a better person, then heaven is obtainable on Earth.
And a loving God would agree. I don't worship fear because others say so.
Grow up.
Anonymous No.938532656
>>938530993
>A few psychos do not represent an entire religion
The appeasement of said psychos on the other hand...
Anonymous No.938532690
>>938530859 (OP)
lol
Anonymous No.938532693 >>938532767
>>938532602
>Then why emphasize the canonization of the literature without the geneology of its merit?

That doesn't even make any sense. "Geneology of it's merit" does'nt mean anything. Is English your second language?

I brought up cananization because you were trying to argue that Jesus "may have blessed a gay couple and people pulled it out of hte bible." This illustrates a complete and very obvious ignorance of how we have the bible we have today. What you're suggesting could not have possibly happened.
Anonymous No.938532762 >>938532785
>>938532630
Yeah worshiping his own personal version of a pretty story is so much more mature, then questioning it and looking for a truth

We have other good reasons to act morally why do you need Christianity for that?
Anonymous No.938532767 >>938532855
>>938532693
It means that ideas have a history.
You can't understand is that the irony of your argument is recursive.
>Why should I hate sinners?
>Because the Bible says that.
>Why is that true?
>Because the Bible says that.
>So judging others is virtue?
>Yes because the Bible says that.
>What about the context of how I experience my own faith?
>Wrong because the Bible says that.
>Why are you an atheist.
>Irrelevant because the Bible says that.
>Says what?
>That its ok to hate queers.
>Why.
>Because the Bible says that.
Anonymous No.938532785 >>938532928
>>938532762
Why does it matter to you?
Anonymous No.938532806 >>938532887
>>938530859 (OP)

Ghandi:

"I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ."
Anonymous No.938532846
>>938530859 (OP)

No. I don't have to be nice to the spirit of the Antichrist.
Anonymous No.938532850
>>938530859 (OP)
>Jesus said to love everyone
He never said that though lol
Anonymous No.938532855 >>938532908
>>938532767


>You can't understand is that the irony of your argument is recursive.
You don't even understand my argument.

>Why should I hate sinners?
>Because the bible says that

The bible does not say that. Again, this is like talking to a child.

You literally reason like a child and there's no point in continuing this.

I just hope there's a time when you take this confidence with you somewhere and someone embarrasses you in front of a large group (much like you're doing there, but in real life). I think that's the only way you'll finally realize you're not nearly as smart as you think you are.
Anonymous No.938532887
>>938532806
inbr pajeet drinking rivers of shit etc
Anonymous No.938532908
>>938532855
Because you can't delineate the merit of the text to your interpretation of it.
That's the irony.
That's you don't "get" what I'm pointing out. And to be fair it's hard to understand if you're not used to this type of thinking.
Anonymous No.938532928 >>938533039
>>938532785
well you asked me to grow up.
i want to know why you think you are in a position to say that.

i could ask the same why you defend christianity

we both are posting on 4chan, nothing here really matters
Anonymous No.938532977 >>938533101 >>938533173
Be wise and fear God. Proverbs 1:7 Ecclesiastes 12:13

AIDS is God's curse. Deuteronomy 28:20-23

Abstain from fleshly lusts. 1 Peter 2:11

Homosexual "love" = lust. Romans 1:26 Colossians 3:5

When homosexuals die. God laughs. Proverbs 1:26

Fear God not man. Proverbs 29:25 Hebrews 12:28

Fear God or go to Hell. Psalm 9:17

Most people go to Hell. Matthew 7:14

Friends of the world are enemies of God. James 4:4

God hates fags. Leviticus 18:22 Leviticus 20:13

God hates adultery. Exodus 20:14 Matthew 15:19 Galatians 5:19

God hates alcoholics. Galatians 5:21 1 Corinthians 6:10

God hates people in Hell. Matthew 7:21-23

God hates workers of iniquity. Psalm 5:5

God hates proud sinners. Proverbs 16:5.

God hates your prayers. John 9:31 Proverbs 15:8
Anonymous No.938533003 >>938533101 >>938533209
God hates your tears. Jeremiah 16:5-7 Ezekiel 24:17

God is your enemy. Jeremiah 51:21 Isaiah 63:10

God sends the cancer. Deuteronomy 32:39 Deuteronomy 28:20-22.

Hell is eternal. Jude 1:7 Mark 9:44

Judge between good and evil. Proverbs 31:9

Judge by God's standard. Deuteronomy 1:16

No homosexuals in Heaven. 1 Corinthians 6:9. Revelation 22:15.

Tranny sin dooms nations. Deuteronomy 22:5 Mark 10:6-9

Destruction is imminent. 1 Thessalonians 5:3 2 Peter 2:1

USA = Fag nation. Isaiah 3:9 Ezekiel 16:48

USA is a curse to the Earth. Jeremiah 26:6
Anonymous No.938533005
>>938531953
>Christians do more to help the poor than any other group.
lol.
lmao, even. the ones who claim to be christians just cut millions of low-income people off of medicaid and food stamps while at the same time imposing tariffs that impact low-income people harder
Anonymous No.938533039
>>938532928
Yes from my point of view you're morally immature.
But it's not my responsibility to fix that for you.
Good luck.
Anonymous No.938533101
>>938532977
>>938533003
This god of yours sounds like a cruel tyrant.
Sic Semper Tyrannis.
Anonymous No.938533173 >>938533320
>>938532977
Good reasons to reject that shit and think for yourself.
Anonymous No.938533209
>>938533003
yeah their weird homophobic bullshit is probably why I'm not a Christian OP
Anonymous No.938533320
>>938533173

>think for yourself
Anonymous No.938536649
>>938530993
The loudest people in the room make strong impressions
Anonymous No.938539277
>>938531970
Nope. It is brought up as being unnatural. Even stating things about condemnation, yes. But all of these quotes are the word of God, not commands to follow.
Who judges? God does. Not humans.
Anonymous No.938539601
>>938530859 (OP)
Because there are very few actual Christians & a great many demons posing as them
Anonymous No.938540304
>>938531703
You mean Christians in media and "Christians" on the internet.
Anonymous No.938540348
>>938532322
crusades were reactionary to raids