Thread 938570014

I have this personal theory. It goes like: "Ice-cream is civilization".
Imagine a 6-year old girl going to her dad and be like "Dad! Dad! Can I have an ice-cream?" and then the dad goes like "Ok, sure, why not." and gives the girl some loose coin change. And the girl runs out of house, down the street into a corner kiosk. There she chooses one cheap ice cream from the freezer box, pays it at the cashier, and slowly walks back home, humming to herself as she eats that delicious ice cream, as the hot summer evening sun warms her face. A childhood core memory unlocked.

Now, that is a pretty tale, but ask yourself: "What needs to exist for that scenario to happen?" What kind of systems MUST be in place for that to be possible?

You need a stable society with functional economy and monetary currency. It has to be safe for a child to go outside alone without fear of being mugged and/or molested. You need to have an agricultural base with cattle and poultry industry (which needs tending and feeding). Someone has to milk those cows and then the milk needs to be cooled and transported to a dairy, where it is made into ice cream with eggs. It has be be made in bulk quantities in order for it to be sold in kiosks and there needs to be demand for it - There needs to be a population with disposable income to buy it.

You need stable electrical grid to run the freezers, you need reliable transportation network of cooled trucks to bring int the goods to the kiosks. The father needs to have a steady income and reasonably good economic standing in order to allow extra expenses like ice-cream. And that money must be worth something so people accept it in exchance of goods and services. All this has to happen for that core childhood memory to take place.

Therefore, the existance of ice-cream means CIVILIZATION. The availability of cheap ice-cream at the corner kiosk is a litmus test for a functional society.
Ice-cream IS civilization.

>>938570014 (OP)
Except in regions where it's freezing all year and there's no demand for ice cream. Or other countries where you have ice cream like North Korea, but the government is oppressive and lousy.

People really do suck at critical thinking.

>>938570014 (OP)
You're right, and you could say the same about many products, watch this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmcmauM78FE

>>938570014 (OP)
Unfortunately niggers exist who would rob and beat your kid into a coma.

>>938570014 (OP)
This was a fun read, thanks anon.
>>938570955
In the freezing regions you can replace the ice cream in this with something like hot chocolate, it requires similar prerequisites. Maybe even more, in fact.

>>938571382
It defeats the whole purpose of anon's theory.

>This was a fun read, thanks anon.

You guys suck at critical thinking.

>>938571014
are the niggers in the room with us right now?
you live in a nigger-infested shithole, sounds like a you problem

>>938571847
But the question is if they have ice cream according to OP

>>938571847
Thankfully there are very few niggers in my suburb. But I’ve been to NYC where there are niggers on every corner.

>>938571442
you're raping the phrase "critical thinking". please stop.

>>938572218
No you guys are just stupid. OP's entire premise is so infantile and poorly thought out I'm not even interested in breaking it down barney style for you guys. If I really have to explain why this theory is dumb then I can't help you.

>>938571847
you fool, you stupid fucking ape—the only reason it's not a "you" problem is because they abort all their children and kill each other with reckless abandon. and if they didn't, your shitty and retarded attitude would be worse than a nigger's, because you watched it unfold and did nothing but run like a fucking coward so that your grandchildren would be cornered in the last holdouts of civilized society, forced to contend with their black, nigger ways.

you've forgotten the face of your father, and you're less than nothing.

>>938572275
there's nothing to break down you absolute quasi-intellectual. his observation is clunky and oversimplified, but it's also entirely sound; it was whiteness that created the civilization (and therefore ice cream without child rape as a norm) but it's just the very same commutative property at work either way.

you could pick anything and pair it with a stable society and it would still hold true, the ice cream isn't all that relevant, he probably just chose it for its relatability (hence his reddit-tier core memory comment)—an ice cream truck would've worked better tbh. indoor plumbing or electrical grids would've been just as valid, but they don't exactly evoke positively-valenced childhood memories

fuck you

test

>>938572579

You don't know the difference between soundness and validity but I'm the "quasi-intellectual." Okay Einstein, enjoy your ice cream like the child you are.

>>938570014 (OP)
You need a president that doesn't fuck children and a society that punishes someone that does. Otherwise it is just a society filled with retards that elects someone that exploits their stupidity for his own personal gain

>>938570014 (OP)
Fun fact, the flavor "Butter Pecan" was invented because for a long time, Black people were forbidden to have vanilla ice cream. What a retarded and fucked up world we have.

>>938574194
Typical infantilzied american who doesn't realize the average Age of Consent in developed countries is like 15. In Germany it's like 14.

>>938574233
That's not true you idiot. Vanilla was never illegal for black people.

Holy fuck i'm getting brain damage using this board.

>>938574283
>Holy fuck i'm getting brain damage using this board.
>I rape kids

>>938574283
>That's not true you idiot. Vanilla was never illegal for black people.
It is true though. My grandparents owned an ice-cream shop and bakery in the 60s and even though it was not a "law" they would refuse to serve vanilla to black people and it was common to do so. It was considered a flavor for whites only.

You can't just revise history to your liking.

>>938574434
I hope your grandparents are dead, ideally from cancer or a bullet

>>938574317
I didn't say "I rape kids." I'm saying almost everybody in the 1st world does according to your stupid definition. It sounds like you're a hugless kissless virgin or you'd realize most people are having sex and dating in their early teens. It's natural.

>>938574434
Jesus Christ I have never met a more confidently stupid group of people. There was never a law that said you couldn't serve vanilla to black people Just because your grandparents were racist doesn't mean the ice cream shop down the street was. Butter pecan was an original flavor and historians widely have debunked this claim multiple times.

>>938574584
If you feel like you need to rape 14 year olds to get pussy you are obviously the virgin. Losers like you who consume "alpha male" media think they they are deserved pussy and can not actually get it on their own because women hate them.

>>938575330
You have no idea how funny this comment is.

FWIW I always date older women. My last fling was in her 40s.

Can you project any harder?

>>938574532
Why?

>>938576618
You do not get pussy, even old pussy

>>938570014 (OP)
gray is civilization its much more interesting

>>938577992
>Source : angry boy on the internet defending "ice cream theory'

>>938574155
actually I do dipshit, but that's not the fucking point because this isn't predicate logic. and even if it were, it would still be sound you fuckin dolt

>>938570955
It's a thought experiment not a science paper, you gomer. You don't have to account for every single scenario or contingency. Retard.

>>938570014 (OP)
it's pretty much in agreement with what you can read in your bible, and also the quran.

>>938570014 (OP)
I always considered refrigeration in general to be the mark of civilization ie mosquito coast without the self-hating white liberalism

>>938570014 (OP)
Dude you're arguing with bots

is the same with... idk a cup of coffe. Why icecream??

>>938581908
Maybe he likes icecream. And kids don't drink coffee. Part of the point is the idea that a small kid with money can safely leave parental surveillance to go purchase something comfy and non-toxic without getting attacked or ripped off

Hi, OP here.
This little theory of mine is very similar to that of what John Greene spoke out about 99 cent cheeseburger on youtube video "Crash Course World History 1: Agricultural revolution."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yocja_N5s1I

I do recommend you watch it.
The point is, this kind of product which requires interconnected production and supply networks (and especially it being widely available to general public, not just the elite) is only available in a system that has achieved societal cooperation on a level which we could call "civilization".

Now, that does not mean it would be an equal or democratic or even fair society, even ancient Romans (which were slave-owning horrendeous bastards, not going to lie) enjoyed something aking to a hamburger and ice-cream. They might not lived in a technologically very advanced civilization, but IT WAS a civilization.
(there are whole history books written about ice and milk being transported from the pastoral mountain regions into low-land cities, which led to accidental discovery of ...well, something aking to ice-cream).

You don't necessarely need even electrical knowledge for it, but it certainly helps. If you have it, it many steps in this process become easier and the end product more easily available for the general public. And thus, reach of your civilization becomes wider and more available for the masses it contains.

I too am a fan of ice cream

>>938583201
...And for that comfy, non-toxic treat being the kind that requires a surprising amount of interconnected production, processing, communication and supply networking and societal infrastructure to simply exist as a corner-kiosk product.

Like said, it's a litmus test.
If you have a society that is undergoing major crisis, a civil war, a natural disaster or similar... you usually can't buy ice-cream from the corner kiosk.

Because the streets are blocked. The electricity is down and the freezers have melted, cashier machines don't work, they haven't gotten the latest supply truck to re-stock the shelves. etc. etc. etc.

Usually if there is a breakdown of infrastructure, social order or transportation, you don't have ice-cream available in the corner kiosk. you are more worried about "is there even a sack of rice that I can somehow buy?".
In those places, Civilization is undergoing (at least temporal) breakdown.

Give poop to my mouth

>>938570014 (OP)
Mexicans make ice cream out of sticks ice and cream and uhhh I don’t think they are that civilized?