Thread 938611818

Why don't jesus believing losers ever help the less fortunate in their communities?

>>938611818 (OP)
yo, it is bullshit that when i donate to the church my money gets shipped to a country full of people id rather it stayed local and funding community service events, like paid for water bottles or name tags maybe dirt sifters to get metal out of sand/dirt/loam, composting, selective breeding vegtibles fruits named after the church.

>>938611818 (OP)
I've seen some very high functioning religious folk do great things for their communities.

>>938611818 (OP)
You seem to have the impression that all christians are republicans.

Jesus didn't say you need to help only your family, or your neighbors. In Matthew 25:31 he says feed the hungry, heal the sick, welcome the stranger. Otherwise, you go to hell! These people like to pretend they are Christians, but they ignore what Jesus said. At least they will have Trump there in hell with them, since all his policies are things Jesus said send you to hell.

>>938611818 (OP)
Jesus says to feed the hungry and clothe the naked, and it is also an innate human instinct

>>938614285
>it is also an innate human instinct
I was with you until
>clothe the naked
Christianity adopted roman-style sexual mores which is why it's so fucked up
>women are whores, put them on a pedestal
>sex outside marriage bad, raping kids at your church ok

I will be honest a lot of people use Religions as a sort of tool to hate others while feeling good about themselves. Religions make it convenient to hate.

"Oh it's ok I will be forgiven"

If God existed and an afterlife existed, they sure as fuck are going to have a "This is your life" style book full of the many shit you did wrong. "Ain't no forgiving here buddy, down you go".

There is good people out there from all communities, who understand what it means to be a decent human being while they believe or don't believe in any religion.

Sadly the majority are hypocritical arseholes doing it for money and control. Most of this world's wars over the last 2 millennia are due to religions in the background. One of the biggest ones was Constantine in the 4th Century just steamrolling Europe and instilling Christianity every single nation he went to from Britain to Turkey, and even after his death his vision of invading Persia and overturning even Arabic Christianity happened. That's right My Christianity is better than yours, so you die.

Even today that is still evident in some nations - Protestants vs Catholics in Ireland/N Ireland with Scotland (Central Belt). That hate still exists today.

>>938611818 (OP)
I’m not a Christian, but I do believe in Jesus, and I believe in helping people. Over the years, I’ve been blessed to walk alongside people as they overcame heroin, meth, and alcohol. Today, they’re living sober and strong. That’s one of the greatest gifts I’ve been able to give this world, and I hope it ripples outward like a butterfly effect.

I love this world and every soul in it. I can’t wait for the day when we are all free together again.

>>938611818 (OP)
All religions are just hierarchies of control

>>938611818 (OP)
They do. Churches and religious people account for a disproportionate amount of charity to the less fortunate.

>>938614966
Recruitment drives don't count as charity, your numbers are likely skewed

>>938614993
No, I mean just general charity like food banks, fundraisers, shelters, etc. religious people disproportionately involved.

>>938614885
Exactly

>>938615049
Did you counterbalance for lost tax revenue and damage inflicted by religion?

I don't ascribe to fallout rules where you can have positive karma after nuking a village by giving homeless people water

>>938615197
>Lost tax revenue
Who honestly cares. The government just prints money lol.
>Damage caused by religion
What? Some homosexual is offended? Again, who cares? People are being fed and sheltered.

>>938615249
Ah you dont actually believe in your argument, nvm then.

Btw most charities do have to report on where their money goes, churches do not. (Because they aren't charities) most of your money goes to legal defense of pedofiles and government lobbying

>>938615313
Not all churches give to lgbt charities, so no, most of the money doesn’t go to pedophiles.

>>938611818 (OP)
They do, charity is a central part of Christianity. And I’m not even a Christian but I know this.

>>938615329
>religious folks calling other people pedofiles (projection)
Haha good one

>>938615357
Now if only Christians knew that :/

>>938615391
The biggest group of pedophiles is the LGBT. Makes the Catholic Church look clean by comparison.

>>938615483
If only you actually cared about children. its funny, taking the lessons of the bible while leaving behind the dogma pushes one outta the cult real fast

>>938615412
They do, that’s why they contribute so much to charity.

>>938615559
Religious people actually make children. We actually have kids we raise. You don’t know what you’re talking about.

>>938615580
Notice how you moved the goalposts to making children instead of caring for them.
Concession accepted

>>938615560
Must be nice not to understand statistics

>>938615642
Statistics say that religious people contribute to charity disproportionately.

>>938615630
If you were a parent you’d know those go hand in hand lol. Like most leftists, you’re not.

>>938615744
I never said I wasn't doing both lol.
You shouldn't get so mad just because you told on yourself

>>938615726
See
>>938615197

Daily reminder:

christcuckery killed more white europeans and their cultures than any other religion.

when christcucks took over europe like the plague (inducted by a Jewish Roman emperor) we called it the Dark Ages for a reason.

christcucks tortured innocent whites and fucked and raped their children.

christcuckery crippled europe's spiritual, intellectual and cultural progress for almost a thousand years.

everything in the christcuck mythos is stolen and assimilated from other religions around it.

nietzsche was right to assert that it's all rooted in misery and misanthropy, and a deep seated hatred for the world.

christcuckery is incompetable with national socialism or racial superiority as every golem is the same under their kike god.

the vatican church is one of the richest organizations on earth yet those corrupt greedy kikeworshippers still pinch out every penny from their faithful golems.

whatever snippets of spiritual wisdom can be acquired from the bible is lost on christcucks as they take its allegories and story literally and word for word.

christcucks imported the corruptive lore of satanic demonology into the minds of westerners and fucked everything up forever.

the pope recently sanctified gay marriages and welcomed transgender people into the vatican. literal LGBT religion.

kikeworshippers are the enemy of the white man and all free folks of europe.

christcucks demonize every group that had tried to advance cultural and scientific knowledge because keeping people stupid and helpless is their religion's whole shtick.

christcucks also tried to get a foodhold in Japan and slime their way into their religious landscape through bribery and recruiting beggars on the streets to become their advocates, but were quickly driven out of Japan by the Emperor who noticed their scheming smeary tricks and had half of them executed like the slimy kikes that they were.

christcuckery = anti-human

total crossnigger death.

>>938615842
>Did you account for these fictional harms I read about on Reddit?
No, obviously not.

>>938615933
I apologize for prompting you to think about the larger picture and the nature of charity. That must have been painful for you.

>>938615905
Lowkey agree, Christianity is ultimate another Jewish psyop.

>>938615992
The larger picture being some exaggerated or entirely fictional harms from atheist pop culture?

>>938616017
I hope you're being stupid on purpose

>>938616114
Likewise. Let me guess, religion bad because uhhh because the Crusades. Because the government doesn’t get all their money, oh no. Give it a rest.

>>938611818 (OP)
Historically, a large % of tithes went to mission work
A lot less is going nowadays but churches do more charity work than anyone (still)

>>938616209
Yep, churches disproportionately responsible for funding food banks and homeless shelters in my city.

>>938614515
HEY
COOL IT WITH THE ANTISEMITISM

>>938616175
Well sure, but I'd rather discuss the damage it does to people's mental faculties, the international pedofile ring, government infiltration and control etc etc

>>938615412
I love how retarded the atheist posting has been lately lmao

>>938616281
The people saying churches perform lots of charity are the same people who slash social programs because they're handouts.
Do you require further explanation?

>>938615197
You don't understand the basis of the function of taxes do you?
They're collected to benefit the entire society so a church that helps the homeless and community removes burden from the public social systems saving the government significantly more than any tax rev they would have potentially collected (probably almost none since they would mark charity as expenses if forced to file like a for profit anyway)

>>938616271
Other way around. Religion helps people’s mental faculties. All studies show religious people are happier, more mentally stable, less prone to mental illness. As for international pedo rings, look to the LGBT they’re the new vanguard, Catholic clergy can’t keep up.

>>938616371
That’s false. I said religious people contribute more to charity and I’m a powerless nobody who has never “slashed” anything.

>>938616384
You're a bit lost (possibly intentionally?) I'll provide some clarity,

Mental faculties refer to the various abilities of the mind that allow us to think, perceive, remember, and interact with the world. These faculties include imagination, will, perception, intuition, reason, and memory. They are fundamental for learning, problem-solving, and navigating daily life.

>>938616371
Oh, right, yes
You should definitely make sweeping generalizations about the largest group of people in the US (Christians)
You're definitely 100% right that every church goer doesn't support social programs
Every. Single. Christian. HATES. public services and has absolutely no compassion whatsoever for the people their religion says to support

>>938616404
See
>>938615992

>>938616462
Idk anon I believe in God and my mental faculties are fine.

>>938616489
You're response referred to mental health, not mental faculties. If you can't handle a mild correction i apologize for trying to help you

>>938616475
Its hardly a generalzation, there's lots of statistics on the subject

>>938616371
Historically, churches have collectively provided the most social services of any institutions anywhere within their communities

You listening to some hateful Jews telling you that hating Christianity makes you !smart! proves you have absolutely no fucking idea what you're talking about

>>938616376
As soon as you provide the numbers to back that up I'll believe you, good luck as you'd also need the stats on where every cent churches collect goes

>>938611818 (OP)
S on dead Jesus motherfucking kill all Christians. I've had it with these, motherfucking Christians

>>938616570
By destroying the preexisting network and preventing another from replacing it ;)

>>938616697
There was no pre-existing network. Churches have provided charity since before the modern state came into existence.

>>938616739
Lol wut? Youre aware people have been people long before religion right? Do you also believe morality didn't exist until some jews started writing about yaweh?

>>938616791
No, religion is as old as recorded history and certainly predates the modern welfare state by a few millennia.

>>938616813
How exciting! You get to learn something new today.

People have been around longer that religion, recorded history, and in fact, the written word in general.

Isn't that wild?

>>938616697
Oh no, you're a flat earther aren't you

>>938616791
I knew you were Jewish lmaooooo
Ride the bikes, pace war now

>>938611818 (OP)
Because 99% of godfags don't actually believe in Jesus, they just pretend to "just in case".

>>938616876
>Gets pedantic because it makes him feel smart
>Completely loses sight of whatever point he was trying to make
Peak atheist lolololol

>>938617241
Not at all, how bizzare

>>938617301
You're talking about agnostics
We're talking about Christians

>>938617266
Concession accepted

>>938617313
If you get lost you can just say so, projection will just muddle the issue for you more

>>938617348
Surprised you got pulled in to some enormous outright lie about Christians but could somehow sidestep the alphabet bois' psyop
I'll call you....
The Smartest Retard©®™

>>938617366
Tie the Nikes
Lace war now

>>938617382
>>938617366
>Original argument unfounded
>Counterarguments not made
>Claims to have won
Okay, Rabbi. Go get your IDF shekels

>>938617411
>Surprised you got pulled in to some enormous outright lie about Christians
Such as?

>>938617460
Correct you have failed to counter my points, good job

>>938617501
Churches are the largest network of social services providers in the USA and across most of the world
You literally never responded

>>938617485
The basis of Christianity is loving and helping one another
>>938617593
Is true
OP is false, this thread is dildoes

>>938617593
Ah so you got btfo now wanna return to before your tangent, got it. You can scroll up.

>>938617644
>The basis of Christianity is loving and helping one another

Some say it is, I'm guessing you have another opinion. (Do share)
Personally I think the basis is control and exploitation of others

>>938611818 (OP)
Not my fault you bozos never listen to reason.

>>938611818 (OP)
Why don't the kikes? Oh I get it they would go to hell if they helped anyone from outside of there perfect tribe

Like oh so sad Christians are so bad and mean:( but legit how many faggot kikes and boy fucking Catholics do we have in power now? And good thing nether of these boy fucking faggots can do anything ever to help anyone but themselves put right? Like grrrrrrrr why would Christians do this?

>>938611818 (OP)
That’s a pretty broad brush you’re painting with. There are definitely hypocrites who talk about Jesus but don’t live it out — but there are also countless Christians who quietly feed people, run shelters, donate, visit the sick, and help in ways that don’t make headlines. A lot of soup kitchens, hospitals, and charities around the world exist because of people motivated by their faith.

If your only experience has been with people who preach but don’t practice, I get why you’d feel frustrated. But it’s not the whole picture. Some of the most selfless, community-minded people I’ve met are believers who’d never call attention to themselves for it.

The truth is, good and bad exist in every group. If you’re serious about wanting to see Christians helping more, the best move isn’t mocking — it’s encouraging and holding people (including yourself) accountable to do better for their neighbors.

>>938616371
Well yeah because social programs are funded by taxes which are extracted without consent. Giving to or volunteering for charity is an act of free will and out of the abundance of one's own heart.
Stealing someone else's money isn't noble.

>>938611818 (OP)
(Mat 7:21-23)
Not everyone saying to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the Kingdom of the heavens, but only the one doing the will of my Father who is in the heavens will. 22Many will say to me in that day: ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and expel demons in your name, and perform many powerful works in your name?’ 23And then I will declare to them: ‘I never knew you! Get away from me, you workers of lawlessness.

Those claiming to be Christian have a wake up call coming. A true Christian would ru. From politics like Jesus did. (John 6:15)

>>938623074
>A true Christian would ru. From politics like Jesus did
Yet he stood in the temple and called the elitist jews running the pay for play scam at the alter the children of the devil. Jesus went head first in to the politics of his day and challenged the very ruling class of the religious hierarchy

Also the verse you posted is about having a relationship with Jesus, not to be like the scribes and Pharisees who were proclaiming God with their lips yet shut up the Kingdom of God from the common people.

damn this thread took off now i gotta read all your faggot replies. surely there wont be annoying christian faggots

>>938623230
He's he would stand up against the world leaders today just like he did then. Also he ran from being king back then, and he wouldn't run for president nor would he endorce any politicians today.

>>938623020
According to your logic regarding taxes: what churches do is not charity.

Which for the most part I'd agree with.

>>938623507
>Also he ran from being king back then
Is he not king in heaven?

>>938623431
I can't believe this retarded thread is still going because the obvious answer is "they do, all the time."

>>938625222
Giving out soup once a year doesn't undo the evil they wreak on the world

>>938625586
What evil? Most of these Churches are the lamest softest most liberal boomers you'll ever meet.

>>938625684
greed, bigotry/misogyny etc, imperialism, child abuse, slavery, genocide, stuff like that.

The soup kitchens are so rubes like yourself say things like "What evil? Most of these Churches are the lamest softest most liberal boomers you'll ever meet."

>>938625794
>greed
Not really, if anything religions teach that material wealth isn't the be-all end all
>bigotry/misogyny etc
That's okay, not everyone is woke
>imperialism
Plenty of atheist imperialism
>child abuse, slavery, genocide, stuff like that.
All things that exist independent of religion

Yeah I don't think you've really weighed this one out.

>>938625859
Wow thats a lot of copium and ignorance. Alas I don't have the time to explain this stuff to you.

I recommend reading something besides the bible sometime.

All faggots replying to this should kill themselves. I'm op and I don't care about any of your opinions or beliefs.

This stupid thread is one of the 5 threads I can have active. This should have expired hours ago. Kill yourselves

>>938625988
>Wow thats a lot of copium and ignorance.
Other way around, your knowledge of religion is based on gay pop culture, not factual information.

>>938626161
Ah the classic strawman (cope)
Glad I didn't overestimate you

>>938626248
>>child abuse, slavery, genocide, stuff like that.
>strawman
No it isn't, your understanding of religion comes from shit like daytime television and social media. You don't really know what you're talking about.

>>938626280
My understanding of religion [Christianity] comes from reading the Bible and observing christians lol