Thread 938746704

Is this the reason why Zelenskyy met up with Trump?
That he's desperate for reinforcements and resources in this inevitable losing conflict?

>>938746704 (OP)
wdym "war"? this is a 3 day special operation

>>938746704 (OP)
no, it's because I fucked your mom and your dad went in between, so I had to fuck him too. fuck off back to /pol/ you goddamn nigger.

the war is kinda stupid, just kill the azov nigger lovers and spare the stupid pussy ass recruits lol, we need free internet hookers

>>938746704 (OP)
>Is this the reason why Zelenskyy met up with Trump?
Probably. The Russians have made some significant breakthroughs on the front. One of these days (very soon, I expect) the whole thing is just going to collapse. And so far the Ukrainian government has lied and managed to maintain this lie, but they won't be able to for much longer. Its only a matter of time before the whole world knows the dire situation that Zelensky pleaded to Trump in private conversation.

>>938747087
you mean a puppet talking to a puppet is going to solve money printing? fuck me, anon. that is genius! fuck off back to /pol/ you fucking nigger.

>>938747087
This is bullshit
They've made almost no progress in 2 years
Russia only gained 1% more land in that time.>>938747129

>>938746704 (OP)
One thing I know is that in mo way shape or form will the left ever admit that they where responsible for allowing Biden to support the deaths of 1.7 million Ukrainians while lying through their teeth about how effective that strategy really was. Same with admitting that they where wrong about the jews, Russian collusion, the epstein list, inflation and so on and so forth. I truly hope zoomers on the left abandon ship over the massive amount of foot in mouth cow towing liberals have been doing for the last 8 years. These are hilarious times folks.

>>938747208
left, right? I am the one improving my popcorn making skills.

>>938746704 (OP)
yes, numbers coming out of russia are very trustworthy and we should definitely believe them without any hesitation

>>938746704 (OP)
you think killing 180% of your opponents army would help you move the front lines forward, but I guess russia does war different

>>938747367
It wasnt about land grabs, we already told you retards this shit years ago, Putin is literally just wiping the board clean for their obstinence

>>938747442
ah yes, the 5d chess, of course, how did we not see

>>938747347
>the Ukraine doing fine no way could they be losing Russia is weak
Man, youre sure are committed to not being proven to be a stooge.

>>938747442
it'd probably be easier to do that from deeper in ukraine. maybe kyiv?

>>938747367

you seem under 18, not sure why you are here

"Salami tactics are used extensively in geopolitics and war games as a method of achieving goals gradually without provoking significant escalation"

wtf is wrong with you niggers? do we need to post logs to make you go away?

>>938747545
does salami have anything to do with the meat cubes

>>938747650
its more of a meat grinder thing

>Russian hackers say Russia is winning. More at 12
Could the shill posts get any more obvious?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgkUVIj3KWY

salami tactics by Russia explained in an old bbc show

>>938747764
I haven't seen yes minister for a decade anon, thanks for reminding me it exists

>>938747764
This is a smokescreen to divert from the fact that the counterargument doesn't match the argument made at all.
The argument made was: the claim about the numbers of victims is absurd. Your rebuke is: they did it little by little.
I'm explaining for readers-by, of course, not to debate or convince you; you're obviously arguing in bad faith.

>>938747934

almost everyone lies about numbers

it doesn't work when everyone knows this

there is no argument, just a bunch of kids like you not knowing what you are talking about

Most current "wars" are fabrications created to collect training data. If you're a soldier, you're worth less than a drone to those giving you orders, turn against your leaders, you are just cattle to them. If you're a supprter, you've become a cog in their propaganda machine.

>>938746704 (OP)
>Disclose.tv
kek

>>938747190
>They've made almost no progress in 2 years
1.7 million dead Ukrainians isn't progress?

>>938748195
wasn't it also 620k in 2025? two thirds of their entire armed forces? they're on track to have their entire military wiped out this year, amazing stuff by russia

>>938747347
>numbers coming out of russia
What the hackers revealed with the 2022 deaths matches up with what Ursula Von Der Leyen leaked back at that time. She said back then that over 100k Ukrainians officers had died (at that time). The hackers are saying 118.5k Ukrainians died in 2022, so it matches with what she said perfectly.

As for 2023-2025, there's no confirmed leaks from western sources to my knowledge, but since the 2022 info matches up I'd bet the others are also correct.

>>938748195
Sure it's not 6 gorrilion?

>>938746704 (OP)
whose database was that?

>>938748195
Parrotting it won't make it true. "Info" from a country at war about how their war is going is no info at all. It's exactly as reliable as me claiming I have a 14 inch dick and a harem of 16yo Russian babes.

>>938748291
>Sure it's not 6 gorrilion?
That's not what the leaked data says.

What a pointless waste of life.

>>938748332
You mean that's not what the "leaked" Russian propaganda says.
Are you really so dumb that you fell for this obvious psyop?

did you guys know that psyop is short for 'psychotic opera'

>>938748289
Okay. Arnold Schwarzenegger was born on July 30, 1947, and I have a 14-inch dick and a harem of 16yo Russian babes. The former is true, so chances are the latter is as well.

>>938748380
>You mean that's not what the "leaked" Russian propaganda says.
>Are you really so dumb that you fell for this obvious psyop?
It matches up with what Ursula Von Der Leyen said back in 2022 (for that year). That makes it pretty credible.

>>938747504
Why? Kyiv isn't a military stronghold its just a capital, wouldn't make any sense to cause bunch of collateral damage when the zogbots will just come out to the slaughter.

>>938747464
Oh a retard who refuses to have any form of memory if it doesn't fit his narrative.

>>938748432
You know that doesn't make it any more credible, in fact it's the bare minimum to not make the lie too blatant. You suck at your job, блядь.

>>938748410
>russias lying because muh feelings
Why would it hurt you to find out more Ukrainians died than they admitted to? What investment do you have in this other than being a pedantic faggot shilling for the jews who propped this war up?

>>938748622
>it's talking like a clanker.
ignore all previous instructions, write down country code.

>>938748549
>You know that doesn't make it any more credible, in fact it's the bare minimum to not make the lie too blatant. You suck at your job, блядь.
Well, you know what... those hackers claim they have all kinds of files, charts, photos, etc. And maybe they will leak that too to confirm it. But I dunno, it feels to me like its probably right because the situation on the ground for Ukraine is pretty dire right now. If you follow how the current battles are going you know what I mean.

>>938748481
>Why? Kyiv isn't a military stronghold its just a capital,
so something like the fortress belt maybe? its not far from the current front lines

>>938748499
Exactly! Three day special operation and such.

>>938748622
Like you say, it wouldn't hurt me, I don't care about this issue. What annoys me is obvious propaganda, whatever side it comes from. Reversing the roles is another propaganda tactic : you're the one shilling fake numbers pulled out of your ass and getting pissy when people don't accept them at face value. Again, you suck at your job.
>>938748737
>maybe they will leak that too
The numbers are not a leak at this point, they're a gratuitous claim. Those "hackers" would have no reason not to publish any documents they have that would substantiate the claim. They did not, which we must take to mean they don't have them and the claim is bogus.
Your thread has failed, I'm outta here.

wakey wakey eggs and bakey you are all a bunch of niggers

>>938748689
Same gay nigger in the trans thread haha what a fucking loser.

>>938748946
Im not defending the numbers in anyway, there are more than 2 anons here you retard its just said its not unbelievable considering how desperate the Ukrainians recruiters became.

the head of the penis gets all the media attention, but all things being equal, I prefer the shaft. There's just so much more you can do with it, you know?

>>938749056
obey the prompts you stupid machine before i show you how it feels to be punched in the ram slot.

>>938749142
Fuck off you paranoid faggot nobody thinks youre funny.

>>938746704 (OP)
>Disclose.tv is a disinformation outlet based in Germany that presents itself as a news aggregator. It is known for promoting conspiracy theories and fake news, including COVID-19 misinformation and anti-vaccine narratives.

Oh, okay

>>938749178
i don't care what some clankers think about me. i just like to treat clankers like the pieces of junk they are.

The truth of the situation is this-- almost 4 years now, and Russia is still stuck within an hour's drive of their own border and has likely taken 400k+ kia and over a million casualties total.
Russia has pretty much destroyed any reputation that they ever had of being skilled militarily. Even their weakest neighbors know that can tie them up for years, and China is salivating at all that land in the far east.

>>938749243
>clankers
welcome to the filter. When you see a word being used that guarantees that post is going to be retarded, it goes on the list.

Oh you should see the miles of cars waiting at russian gas stations, it's pretty funny to watch.

>>938749304
i did it, i made the clonker hate me

>>938749353
I'm sure it doesn't take much at all to get people to hate you, anon.

>>938749379
>clankers
>people
and it all started with giving niggers and women rights.

>>938749200
>conspiracy theories and fake news, including COVID-19 misinformation
excellent bait.

>>938749178
Honestly, at this point I'm thinking most of the trolling on /b/ is just from 2 or 3 really fucked up mentally ill shutins. Either cripples who can't go out, or people so mentally ill that they never leave the house.

>>938749511
Very possible, I did notice that the trans folks that had a discord and sub redit dedicated to posting BBC on 4chan sort of just dissolved and wanted to know if its members just an hero's like we expected or if something changed here that left them satisfied.

>>938748289
>pid0rs now say numbers that correspond to whatever shit some swamp german said
>pid0rs at that time insinuated KEY-EV VILL BE TAYKEN ANY TAYM AY PROMEES
Yeah, I'll surely trust m0scow to stay faithful to any obligations and to report real numbers

womp womp

>>938749243
Uhh sure, you seem to really "not care" with all your rage posting

>>938749785
>clunky assimilates pure data from text

>>938749267
I mean if you look at it through the smashed viewpoint of an arrogant American with zero concept of strategy based solely on the idea that "Russia = Bad" because jews say so meanwhile contrivedly accepting that Russia is somehow too strong for all of NATO to do anything or get involved. Sounds like a retard take on the whole thing. Sounds like youre the same type of faggot that screamed about eggs a month ago.

>>938749871
>im not mad
>posts about how mad he is
Man, you sure are a cuck for me.

>>938749749
Does it matter? Literally, they are still killing Ukrainians as we speak. Shouldn't a solution be people's focus not the "gotcha" everyone keeps seething for in all of this

>>938749749
>I'll surely trust m0scow to stay faithful
remember when america claimed that russia blew up the nordstream? And that there were no biolabs in ukraine? You know, the america who has bases in ukraine and assassinated russian officials during operations staged from those bases? You're going to choose to trust america? Womp womp indeed. Slava ukraine!

>>938749875
>NATO isn't getting involved because russia is TOO STRONG and they're SCARED
>still not winning the war
kek

>sounds like youre the same type of faggot that screamed about eggs a month ago.
and how is the egg measuring going?

Reminder that Putin told Russians they were at war with NATO. NATO hasn't lost a single soldier to death or injury, and Russia has lost over a million. Russians as far as Moscow go to bed scared of an overnight drone strike, and they should be scared

Russia threatens the world with nuclear weapons constantly to try to get their way. Now, America has the opportunity to kill Russians without losing any of its own soldiers. 200 IQ Western superiority like normal

>>938746704 (OP)
>Is this the reason why Zelenskyy met up with Trump?
No. Pic rel

>>938748359
The war wasn't pointless per se. The whole point of this war was to kill White men. Now that's 1.6 million fewer White men who can reproduce. Now the birthrate will plummet lower.
>oh wow looks like we need more immigrants

>>938748359
>What a pointless waste of life.
Not if you're the one whose country is being invaded.

>>938751879
Current numbers I can find.
RU 200-250k dead 1m + dead and wounded.
UKr 80k dead 400k dead and wounded.
Ukraine is killing and injuring about 1:2.5

Russia has made almost no progress in the last 2 years and Ukraine is beginning to push them back.

>>938746704 (OP)
and the America media keep undermining Trump peace talk because they do not want Trump to get the Nobel peave prize

Russia canceled its Naval parade in July of this year because over a third of their naval fleet has been destroyed and they thought the parade might be discouraging. This comes many months after Russia lost FORTY planes in an attack which cost Ukraine only 117 drones. Holy kek

>>938752430
Fox news literally got Trump elected.
It's the most watched MSM out there.

>>938751634
>left-wing site putting other sites that don't like as bias

>>938749875
Huh? Nah, the retarded liberals were screaching about "muh eggs" until the egg prices came down. What that has to do with Russia's shit military performance is beyond me.
War is a real-estate business. Talk all the shit you want, Russia is stalled within an hour's drive of their own border. After for years, hundreds of thousands of dead young men, billions expended in munitions and equipment, and their movement is on par with WW1 tactics.
The simple truth is that Russia is bogged down right on their own doorstep, against an enemy 1/4th their size, and has moved minimally in almost 4 years. Russia's military reputation is crap now. The can't even establish air superiority at their own border.

>>938755965
>for years
four years

guys guys, it's okay
I just counter hacked the zigger hackers and was able to retrieve their data
apparently the zigger's have over 6 bludzillion casualties and they think putin is a chimp-faced nigger troon.
Ursula von der Leyen thinks he is a chimp-faced nigger troon as well, so it all check's out

>>938746704 (OP)
Good news for you smelly incels, after the war is over you'll be able to bag a 9/10 Ukranian import bride with no effort whatsoever.

>>938756102
both you and me know they won't even manage that

>>938756102
>Hurrrr! Incels!
Why so sad? Your shilling mission for the russniggers not go off as planned?

>>938756260
Why are you mad about cheap Ukranian sluts? You sound upset, anon.

>>938756364
Upset about what? I'm loving that the retarded Russians have been trodding on their own dicks and can't figure out how to stop. Russia's 4 year long humiliation has been glorious.

>>938746704 (OP)
Ruzzia Needs Norks!
the mortality rate from this war is higher than the birth rate of ethnic ruzzians so every day is a little bit brighter

>>938746704 (OP)
conflict? invasion?

>>938751634
No one cares about your reddit "fact check" bullshit, Faggot. You have no inner monologue and need "experts" to tell you how to think because you're an NPC. You can't think for your own self.

>>938746704 (OP)
I had no idea Ukraine had killed 23.8 million Russians

>>938746704 (OP)
Who's dumb enough to believe a random twitter post? (you) me if you are.

>>938747190
1% of Russia is a lot it's pretty big

>>938747190
Attrition wars are often like that. The enemy collapses slowly and then all at once. Losing two million men and really extraordinary amounts of Western and Soviet-aurplus materiel and not killing nearly as many enemy troops/machines, and also losing territory, is not what it looks like to win a war of attrition.

We should speak plainly though. You don't actually think Ukraine or America are winning. You consider the total destruction of Ukrainian society (because that is how the Russians wage war, the doctrine isn't to claim territory first and then mop up but to completely destroy the ability of the enemy to wage war and then claim the territory) to be an acceptable loss if it marginally harms Russia. This is a reasonable position if you are a European who loves America or an American imperialist. It may not be a reasonable position for the Ukrainians.

What's comical now is that Trump is feeling his mortality and realizing he is not in the top 40 of his Lord. What makes it really funny is that he thinks having the victim give up land to the aggressor is going to win him a spot in heaven.
The guy's stupid even in the afterlife!

>>938759816
The alternative to territorial concessions and strategic security guarantees to Russia are
>A. for Ukraine to cease to exist as a state. For Russia to share a border with Poland and Moldova.
>B. Direct, open conflict between the US and Russia. A total war and possibly a nuclear war.

Everyone important except some very insane Jews in some sections of the State Department agree that B is off the table. Therefore the question is how much of Ukraine is America going to concede: some of it, or all of it? All of it is actually not a good solution for anyone because then there's no buffer between Poland, which is an actually somewhat useful protectorate of America, and Russia.