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Anonymous No.938907626 >>938907890 >>938909264 >>938909279 >>938911317 >>938911869 >>938912032 >>938912139 >>938912320 >>938913781 >>938920505
Does Neurotypical/Neurodivergent feel like insults or is it just me?
Like I’m on the spectrum but I feel like calling someone Neurotypical is worse than just saying they’re “not autistic” or “they’re normal”. Like, if I said “you fucking neurotypical”, that definitely comes off as it being used as an insult. Honestly this is why I hate when these mfs try to come up with labels like how they did cisgender meaning someone who isn’t trans
Anonymous No.938907890 >>938914962
>>938907626 (OP)
I'm a Gemini, idk if that helps or not
Anonymous No.938909264 >>938909652 >>938911192 >>938913872 >>938914061
>>938907626 (OP)
It's like "cis". It's a way to marginalize normal people.
Anonymous No.938909279 >>938909612 >>938909612 >>938911939
>>938907626 (OP)
It's just you. I'm a psych ward nurse and spend way more time than I'd like around neurodivergent people, they (and we) use neurotypical as a pure descriptor. It's a mere shortcut, with no intent behind it.
Of course you can find imbeciles online that use it as an insult or to feel special, and social media algorithms will feed those examples to you because they're infuriating, and that drives engagement. Any word would feel like an insult if used in an agressive way, you fucking marshmallow.
Anonymous No.938909612 >>938910016
>>938909279
> I'm a psych ward nurse and spend way more time than I'd like around neurodivergent people
> you fucking marshmallow.

Wow I can imagine you truly love your job and never done any malpractice>>938909279
Anonymous No.938909652
>>938909264
Exactly. Like, what’s the point of creating these new terms for? They already exist: autistic, transgender, etc. they’re labels, we don’t need to over complicate it
Anonymous No.938910016 >>938910984
>>938909612
If you weren't sarcastic, you'd be right. Venting anonymously online doesn't mean I'm bad with patients. It's just tiring, because neurodivergent people, through no fault of their own (mostly), are exhausting to interact with in the long run. It's more or less the definition: their different way of thinking requires a constant effort of accomodation, that's different for each individual. It's like spending each day interacting with 30 people who only speak their own language. Try it, and never complain even where none of them could ever see it.
> you fucking marshmallow
> Any word would feel like an insult if used in an agressive way, you fucking marshmallow
Brilliant reading comprehension there, champ.
Anonymous No.938910984
>>938910016
> because neurodivergent people, through no fault of their own (mostly)
> Brilliant reading comprehension there, champ

If I was your patient surely I be your greatest patient ever :)
Anonymous No.938911192 >>938911362 >>938916103
>>938909264
>marginalize normal people.
Just looking to be a victim aren't you.
Anonymous No.938911317 >>938911385
>>938907626 (OP)
>Like, if I said “you fucking neurotypical”, that definitely comes off as it being used as an insult.
You fucking mong, that works with any word you fucking IMG_0019.jpg poster. Typical fucking guy, disgusting.
Anonymous No.938911362 >>938911416
>>938911192
How is this about being a victim? If anything the people begging to be identified correctly what with their neopronouns and bullshit identities are the ones trying to be victims. Like yall forgot the one trans dude who would complain when someone misgenders him? It’s about what is the point of having these terms in the first place? It’s the same bullshit when pedophiles wanted to created the term MAPs and have it normalize, but no one was ever gonna put up with that shit
Anonymous No.938911385
>>938911317
I would rather be called retarded than be called a neurodivergent any fucking day
Anonymous No.938911416 >>938911502
>>938911362
>sees a medical descriptor
>feels insulted by it
cant make that shit up
Anonymous No.938911502 >>938911585 >>938912093 >>938913975
>>938911416
>sees a medical descriptor

Autism. That’s all you need as a medical descriptor. No need for this “neurotypical/neurodivergent” bullshit
Anonymous No.938911585 >>938911868
>>938911502
oh man, sorry to hear about your disability, must be tough to live every day like this
Anonymous No.938911868
>>938911585
Ngl I always thought that neurotypical was less insulting
Anonymous No.938911869
>>938907626 (OP)
Every thing turns into a slur in the hands of those that hate what those words represent. Look at "Little people" how many different words have there been to describe them? People allow bigots to turn innocuous terms into hate terms so quickly. Gay was fine until it wasn't. Sure it's made a comeback, but for a long time it was practically a curse word. Look up how many slurs were actually created by the group they represent, only to have those words turned into hateful things. it's pretty insane, "The term "neurodivergent" is attributed to Kassiane Asasumasu, an American autism rights activist."
Anonymous No.938911939
>>938909279
Anonymous No.938912032 >>938912080
>>938907626 (OP)
language changes. and you can change the words, but it all still means the same shit. If you want, we can try to bring back "touched in the head"
Anonymous No.938912080 >>938912280
>>938912032
"indigo child" would fit OP, such a special little creature
Anonymous No.938912093 >>938915939
>>938911502
We use neurotypical/neurodivergent all the time as medical descriptors in day-to-day practice and in most of the literature that's not about a specific disorder. That is because "people who are not autistic or dyspraxic or dyslexic and do not have attention deficit disorder and do not suffer from any developmental disorder or acquired neurological disorder or illness" is a mouthful when it's something you need to say 100x a day.
Anonymous No.938912139 >>938912280
>>938907626 (OP)
they're just words anon, neurodivergent here, and not offended by that word
Anonymous No.938912280 >>938912312 >>938912648 >>938912729
>>938912139
Well, can you illuminate which term you would rather be referred to and why? I know some folks for instance like to be called “person with autism” or “autistic”, etc. so I’m interested to hear your reasoning. I know they’re words at the end of the day, and I admit I was aggressive with the post, guess it’s this part of me that is reminded that a majority has a norm defined already.

>>938912080
I mean, if it sounds cooler like calling short people midgets than sure.
Anonymous No.938912312 >>938912676
>>938912280
>a majority has a norm defined already
thats how norms work, dipshit
Anonymous No.938912320
>>938907626 (OP)
facial expressions for each syllable might help with expected connotations for words
first impressions are important.
the "n" is often disgust.
the ideas for defing words are not done by scholars trying to impart a great wisdom they are explores trying to get drunk and buy some comfort in foreign lands. the explores hear a word see a facial expression and tie it to an object event or tangible item nearby
Anonymous No.938912648 >>938912715
>>938912280
I prefer to be referred to with my name, as Sartre said 'you label me, you negate me'
Anonymous No.938912676 >>938914022
>>938912312
But how exactly do norms function beyond just “oh the majority agrees upon it”. Who’s to say that in another timeline murdering dogs is a norm today to bleaching your hair at a certain age is a norm for everyone?
Anonymous No.938912715
>>938912648
Damn, actual powerful words anon.
Anonymous No.938912729 >>938912770
>>938912280
What if we start calling midgets "warwicks" instead? I think it accurately describes the vile little creatures
Anonymous No.938912770
>>938912729
Warwicks unironically sounds badass tho, like some medieval shit right there
Anonymous No.938913781 >>938914119
>>938907626 (OP)
it's just you.
Anonymous No.938913872 >>938914089
>>938909264
cis is a fake word used to divide people based on normalizing a divergent fetish. neurotypical describes the average person without trying to normalize the divergent.
Anonymous No.938913975 >>938914362
>>938911502
not all divergences are autism. that's like saying to a vet don't say "canine" why not just say dog? not all canines are dogs, marshmallow brain.
Anonymous No.938914022
>>938912676
inherent traits are not choices, you dumb marshmallow.
Anonymous No.938914061 >>938916130
>>938909264
no it isnt. you guys just hate paradigms that you cant control. youre a cancerous bunch of faggets
Anonymous No.938914089
>>938913872
its a fucking science term retard
Anonymous No.938914119
>>938913781
and if your partner doesn't already know that you're on the spectrum, *what makes you think you're going to tell them?*

seriously, all you're doinf is going to make it harder for them to accept you and get to know you better
Anonymous No.938914362 >>938915939
>>938913975
I was referring to the person who mentioned how we need the term neurodivergent and neurotypical to refer to autistic or non-autistic. But in reality we can just simple say autistic without needing to say neurodivergent. Same way we can just say terms like adhd, bpd, ptsd, depression, etc.
Anonymous No.938914962
>>938907890
this makes so much sense now
Anonymous No.938915939
>>938914362
Refer to
>>938912093
In actual reality, not your imagined one, many traits are shared between several types of neurodivergence, many real-life consequences are common to all or most of them, many therapeutic options apply to several of them, and the term is useful daily for actual, real-life people that are just concepts for you.

One example of many : alexithymia is common in patients with ADHD, autism, depression, and some neurological issues. It is just a medical term to describe one symptom: difficulties in identifying one's own emotions or expressing what they are.
If a patient asks me how people seem to know how they're feeling without needing to think about it, I can say "it comes naturally to neurotypical people" without having to spell out every exception or resorting to more medical jargon.
If I'm talking with someone who doesn't have this issue in my office, and they ask me what those colorful wheels with basic emotions spelled out on them are, I can say "that's a tool I use with neurodivergent people".
If I'm reading a paper that explains the use of such tools, or even just the manual that goes with them, I can expect them to use "neurodivergent" and "neurotypical" because it's quick and says everything that needs to be said.

Outside of actual therapy, people use those words as shorthand, because that's what they are. It helps support networks communicate efficiently without having to say "normal" or "abnormal", since those words are way more emotionally and politically charged. And expert patients giving advice to other people with similar problems and using similar strategies are one of the best ways we know right now to improve outcomes, and efficient, neutral vocabulary goes a long way to let them help each other.
Anonymous No.938916103
>>938911192
I think it's the opposite, chap
Anonymous No.938916130
>>938914061
Get better soon
Anonymous No.938917268 >>938917570 >>938917658 >>938919599
you dumb niggers. all this shit is just made up shit no one is normal no one is weird no one is special everyone is the same and also weird and also normal and also its just a matter of context, time perspective, and ALL OF THESE THINGS are constantly in flux, so jesus christ.. stop trying to find a thing to label your new super hero powers after and just go do shit in the world what the fuck my guys... what the fucking fucking fucking fuck you fucking retards... jesus fucking christ..

Autism is just "weird" also somehow everyone is fucking autistic if you just try hard enough., It's all made up bullshit labels within structures within labels within structures and it only matters if you fucking want it to matter and care about people who also care about it. And use it as a talking piece while you live your silly fucking lives you ridiculous ridiculous fucking people jesus fucking christ just STOP... Just... go...do shit and be happy and who gives a fuck what anyone thinks about you or what you're "called" because here's the deal... NO ONE FUCKING THINKS ABOUT YOU... everyone thinks about themselves for the most part, and like, three other people that are very closely involved in their lives... and that's it.. THATS IT... no one gives a fuck beyond that.. so stop letting it rule your fucking world and just go conquer whatever gay shit you want to you pokemaster you..

Devin Kyle / Maris / King Sethius OUT
Anonymous No.938917570 >>938919599
>>938917268
lol based
Anonymous No.938917658 >>938919599
>>938917268
Unironically most rational one here
Anonymous No.938919599 >>938919943
>>938917658
>>938917570
>>938917268
>Devin Kyle / Maris / King Sethius OUT
kek
obvious samefag is obvious
Anonymous No.938919943
>>938919599
obvious wrong fag
Anonymous No.938920505 >>938920651
>>938907626 (OP)
I agree. They should just call all you demented fucks "tards". I don't really care what flavor of tardation you have.
Anonymous No.938920651
>>938920505
Valid