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Anonymous No.938986397 >>938986420 >>938987514 >>938987918 >>938987938 >>938988156 >>938988198 >>938988599 >>938988805 >>938988956 >>938989013 >>938989100 >>938989127 >>938989296 >>938990595 >>938994050 >>938994360
The Russian interference narrative was fake
And the Obama administration, the Hillary campaign, and CIA/FBI, et al., knew it from the start.
Anonymous No.938986420 >>938986569
>>938986397 (OP)
The political establishment played the left like fiddles, and you've lovingly been sucking on that propaganda tit for the last 9 years.
Anonymous No.938986504
The left are too invested in this narrative at this point. Most will never give it up
Anonymous No.938986518
Anonymous No.938986569
>>938986420
The left willingly accepted IDpol and turned on their fellow westerners. Didn't question anything. Just ran with the demented propaganda and never looked back, to this day. I will never forgive them for that.
Anonymous No.938986644 >>938986835 >>938986933 >>938986975
This won't distract anyone from the Epstein files.
Anonymous No.938986835 >>938986975 >>938988307
>>938986644
The Epstein files IS the distraction, you retard. The one that's going to keep you from ever questioning the last 9 years of government corruption and constitutional violations.
Not only will nothing ever come out about Epstein, their gonna keep shoveling it in your face so you'll be screeching about it just like you did the fake "Russian collusion" shit.
You retards are easily manipulated, and you love it. You love every second of it. The fake narratives and manufactured outrage gives your life purpose.
Anonymous No.938986861 >>938986960
Imagine trusting a damn thing this regime has to say.
Anonymous No.938986933 >>938988115
>>938986644
Checked. Everyone knows the Epstein list is the key to destroying clown world. Even if their motivations for having them released and prosecuted are different.
Anonymous No.938986960
>>938986861
>From the guy who trusted everything the Obama and Biden regimes had to say
kek
Anonymous No.938986975 >>938987460 >>938988307
>>938986835
>>>938986644
>The Epstein files IS the distraction, you retard.
Anonymous No.938987460 >>938987526 >>938993534
>>938986975
It's times like this that I marvel at how good the propagandists are at this. They played on your prejudices and now you'll never believe anything but the propaganda narrative.
And they've convinced you it's all about Jews, as they've been doing from time immemorial.
And, at the end of the day, they're still gonna be in charge, the guilty will still be free, and you'll still be nothing more than a useful idiot.
Anonymous No.938987514 >>938988540
>>938986397 (OP)
Because the current administration, known for telling the truth, says it was a hoax or do you have actual evidence?
Anonymous No.938987526
>>938987460
Seriously, it's not the Jews. It's the Israelis.
Anonymous No.938987918 >>938988460 >>938988747 >>938988800
>>938986397 (OP)
The problem was never Russian hackers changing votes in the first place. The problem was filling the internet with belligerent ultra-right wing radical nationalist rhetoric in an effort mobilize a political schism and to destabilize the USA. It worked, the USA is eating itself as we speak. The president is declaring new crimes via executive order and nobody is going to do anything about it because they love executive overreach now. Russian propagandists convinced you to worship a leader who will lead you all to ruin and all but conquered you without firing a shot because he knew this radical nationalist movement would never agree to live to up to their NATO security commitments do to costs and hostility towards Europeans. This was all a gambit to take the USA out of play in a now not so hypothetical European war that will probably start any day now.
Anonymous No.938987938 >>938988046
>>938986397 (OP)
That sounds a lot like a thing someone would say if there actually was interference.

But!
I kind of agree, they destroyed themselves. The American democratic party is playing defence and react since 2016. Faggots.
Anonymous No.938988046 >>938988516
>>938987938
It's literally the intelligence brief that the FBI sent president Obama after they investigated. This is from before Trump ever took office
Anonymous No.938988115
>>938986933
It won't destroy anything in the USA because Americans will continue to worship their favorite sex traffickers of choice no matter what happens. Americans are the worst people on earth.
Anonymous No.938988156 >>938989991
>>938986397 (OP)
Just like how the voter fraud and Haitian cannibals were fake, right?
Anonymous No.938988198
>>938986397 (OP)
Anonymous No.938988307
>>938986835
>>938986975
Israel will never allow the release of the Epstein files. It will show that Israel isn't our ally and was using their intelligence organization Mossad to run a pedo sex ring to gather blackmail material and control powerful politicians and elites.

Besides, at this point I am sure 99% of the evidence is destroyed anyways.
Anonymous No.938988460 >>938988747 >>938988780 >>938988800
>>938987918
This.
Literally any time we talk about Russian interference, this strawman about hacked voting machines comes up. No one on the left thinks voting machines were hacked, that's a right wing conspiracy theory that originated with the 2020 election. The left claimed, and proved, that Russians disinfo campaigns are directed to support Donald Trump's efforts to win the election, and that they have effectively bot farmed political issues for almost a decade now, completely changing the beliefs of the conservative half of America. There's a reason that the Russian payment scandal, where all those YouTubers were knowingly accepting bribes from Russia, didn't feature a single left-wing YouTuber.
Anonymous No.938988516
>>938988046
>Brief
That there says "Pulled December draft"
Sure seems like we weren't allowed to see the actual brief. The person who hand-selected this draft for release was under Donald Trump, since it was released by the DNI in July of this year.
Anonymous No.938988540 >>938988723 >>938993104
>>938987514
>do you have actual evidence?
do you? For any of the claims of collusion? Pro tip: Hillary said so isn't proof. The cia found no evidence of collusion and the democrat elite knew that when they falsely accused trump of working with russia to steal the 2016 election. But let's be real, if you cared about evidence at all beyond the ability to nitpick, deny, and discredit in the service of your team, you wouldn't believe the hoax to begin with.
Anonymous No.938988599
>>938986397 (OP)

Welcome to 2016 !

Did you take the shirt bus to get here you retard?
Anonymous No.938988723 >>938988854
>>938988540
>The CIA found no evidence
But the FBI did, even sent out warrants.
https://www.fbi.gov/wanted/cyber/russian-interference-in-2016-u-s-elections
Anonymous No.938988747 >>938988816 >>938988841
>>938987918
>>938988460
>The only reason you don't want unchecked immigration, DEI, and men in women's sports/bathrooms/prisons is because of russian disinfo bot farms
no, my dudes. Sometimes people disagree about things. That's how democracy works.
Anonymous No.938988780 >>938988844
>>938988460
Its not really surprising that the counter narrative produced by the very same propagandists prevailed. Americans are in all seriousness the stupidest people on the planet. I don't think this would have have worked anywhere else. Brilliant strategy on Russia's part. They deserve win for what its worth. An absolute victory that was decades in the making.
Anonymous No.938988800 >>938988899
>>938987918
>>938988460

That's you
That's how you brain sounds
Anonymous No.938988805
>>938986397 (OP)
>source: your ass
Anonymous No.938988816 >>938988889 >>938988906
>>938988747
>Strawmanning the entire Dem Party.
It's hilarious, because it's nearly impossible to strawman Republicans. Anything I can think of that would be inherently bad, they've already done it proudly.
Anonymous No.938988841
>>938988747
I'm not a Democrat. I don't even vote at all because the USA is a fucking embarrassment no matter who the president is. Waste your life telling me about Democrats some more you useless to pile of dick spit. Fuck the USA.
Anonymous No.938988844 >>938988957
>>938988780
The first reply was a dude just ignoring half of what I said, and arbitrarily applying culture war bullshit to it.
There's 0 credibility in the Republican party
Anonymous No.938988854 >>938988973
>>938988723
And were these people connected to Trump in any way? This was released in 2018, when Trump was president.

Other anon was talking about "collusion" between Trump and Russia and you simply posted some Russians wanted for crimes. Where is the connection to Trump?
Anonymous No.938988889
>>938988816
>Strawmanning
no strawmen here, sir. Simply listen to your own politicians speak. Kamala literally endorsed tax payer funded gender reassignment surgery for detained illegals. The chain is only as strong as its weakest link. I'm sorry that the weakest link in the democrat party cost your team their win by latching on to the least popular issues.
Anonymous No.938988899 >>938988942
>>938988800
>Sunk cost
Are you projecting? Holy shit.
A Republican led House panel in 2020, after Donald Trump was president, found strong evidence there was a connection between Russia and Trump, it detailed a massive web of contacts between Russian elite and Donald, and a nearly 1,000 page report penned by the committee called it a grave threat to National Security.
It isn't a coincidence all of that disappeared when the dude who was accused suddenly has unchecked executive power.
Anonymous No.938988906 >>938988997
>>938988816
>Accuses the other side of strawmanning an entire party
>Says all Republicans are guilty of every crime imaginable
Wow, you seem so reasonable and willing to have a discussion and not a ridiculous retarded troll flinging poop.
Anonymous No.938988942 >>938989008
>>938988899
>grave threat to National Security.
Just like the panel that said the Hunter Biden laptop was a hoax?
mice aren't fucking real No.938988956 >>938988983 >>938989001
>>938986397 (OP)
so if I'm reading this, this is interesting to people aged at least 18 in america in 2016 who were butthurt despite their candidate winning and are still butthurt about that 0 years later dlespite their candidate winning and being in power
Anonymous No.938988957
>>938988844
Ans zero hope for the future of the USA. The sooner people accept it the better. Its all downhill from here. Divest your interests from this doomed nation while you still can.
Anonymous No.938988973
>>938988854
You don't believe evidence presented to you either way. Like I said, there's been way too many investigations into this that DID find evidence of a direct connection. The fact you're accepting the narrative the second it came from a Republican administration, but not when it came from a Democrat one, is plenty telling. Only one party has supplied ANY evidence, and they did so under bipartisan control, without any way of recovering politically if they stood on it.
I don't see how you find the Trump admin's claims credible.
>Were they connected to Trump
Other than directly fighting to make him win through subversive interference? Are you moving the goal post?
mice aren't fucking real No.938988983
>>938988956
I meant 9 years not 0
also mice aren't fucking real tell the press
Anonymous No.938988997
>>938988906
>No sense of irony.
Holy shit Daniel, good job. You criticized me, but didn't criticize the guy who I was mocking, it's almost like you lack honesty.
Anonymous No.938989001 >>938989033 >>938989036
>>938988956
>you can't be mad about the democrat hoax machine because they lost anyway
son...?
Anonymous No.938989008
>>938988942
Lmao.
Was that panel Republican led? Nope!
Anonymous No.938989013 >>938989169
>>938986397 (OP)
>Russia tried but failed to interfere in election
>therefore fake
Excuse me, what?
Anonymous No.938989033 >>938989109
>>938989001
>I'm not even trying to argue the point
Sure anon that's precisely what I said and nothing else. I'm sure you'll go through life just fine only hearing half of what people say.
mice aren't fucking real No.938989036
>>938989001
I'm not mad about the broken shitbox my neighbour has on his lawn he's been tinkering with for the last 5 years, its not going anywhere
Anonymous No.938989100
>>938986397 (OP)
why’d Michael Flynn plead guilty, anon?
Anonymous No.938989109 >>938989163 >>938989193
>>938989033
>you don't understand, it was only attempted murder. I didn't murder anyone, so no crime was committed
son...?
Anonymous No.938989127 >>938989385
>>938986397 (OP)
This report seems to ONLY cover the topic of actual hacking of election infrastructure. And it literally says that Russia succeeded in doing so in one case, and attempted it in numerous other states. The fact that it ostensibly didn't affect the election result was just luck, the attack that succeeded could have happened to the actual counting machines in a critical swing district. The point is that they did in fact attack the election.

And there is another huge component of Russian interference, which as said this report is not applicable for at all, which is propaganda. Russia doesn't need to actually hack the voting infrastructure to affect the election, they can just spread misinformation online and in the media. And given that, as said, OP's report literally says that Russia did in fact try to attack the election in one way, obviously it is a given that they also attempted to manipulate it via propaganda.

In short, this seems to be a very damning report that says that the Russian interference narrative was absolutely true. I struggle to see how people like OP can draw the exact opposite conclusion from it.
Anonymous No.938989163 >>938989193
>>938989109
You don't win a Nobel prize for attempted physics!
Anonymous No.938989169
>>938989013
The great thing is that Dems didn't claim Russians were hacking machines directly. Dems said exactly what that report says, and to this day believe what that report says, that the machines are fairly resilient to interference, hence the dismissal of that 3000 Mules bullshit, since Russians tried that already and it didn't work.
Dems maintained that Russia is using disinformation to manipulate elections. The fact that there are people who will immediately and reflexively react to a democrat by instantly bringing up identity politics and culture wars instead of the policies a Majority of Democrats actually try to pass is already evidence enough of this.
The fact that a whole load of Right Wing YouTubers were knowingly taking Russian money to change their opinions on election interference, etc. was also evidence enough.
Anonymous No.938989193
>>938989109
>False equivalence
Anon beat me to replying to this.
>>938989163
sage No.938989296 >>938990156
>>938986397 (OP)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mueller_report


> The report states that Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election was illegal and occurred "in sweeping and systematic fashion",[10][11][12] and was welcomed by the Trump campaign as it expected to benefit from such efforts.[13][14][15] It also identified multiple links between Trump associates and Russian officials and spies,[16] about which several persons connected to the campaign made false statements and obstructed investigations.[4] Mueller later stated that his investigation's

Remember: Mueller is a lifelong Republican, selected to investigate Russian interference, by Jeff Sessions, a lifelong Republican

sage it and forget it
Anonymous No.938989385 >>938990074
>>938989127
You'll find that Americans are dishonest by nature and they will shamelessly lie to defend their preferred narrative from the truth.
Anonymous No.938989991
>>938988156
>Butwhatabout..!!!
Anonymous No.938990074 >>938990169
>>938989385
Especially democrats.
Literally no one addressed the OP. Just a bunch of "butwhatabout" and "oh look, a squirrel!"
Anonymous No.938990156 >>938990171 >>938990195 >>938991071
>>938989296
>Mueller is a lifelong Republican
Mueller is an establishment drone. For his type, there is no party, just the bureaucracy.
Watch this clip-- Here you can see Joe Biden claiming to have written the Patriot act, and think Mueller for helping to try and get it passed in the 90s, long before 9/11.
https://www.c-span.org/clip/senate-committee/user-clip-joe-biden-says-he-wrote-the-patriot-act/4876107
Anonymous No.938990169 >>938990198
>>938990074
Weak bait
Anonymous No.938990171
>>938990156
>think
thanking
Anonymous No.938990195 >>938990259
>>938990156
>everyone I dont like isnt a true repub
Cultists
Anonymous No.938990198 >>938990230
>>938990169
Yes, what you've been spamming to deflect from the OP is indeed weak bait. You're so thoroughly propagandized, you'll never let the lies go.
Anonymous No.938990230
>>938990198
Please point to my posts where I am spamming
Anonymous No.938990259 >>938990282
>>938990195
He's true enough. I'm certainly not a Republican. Fuck them, fuck the Democrats, and fuck you useful idiots for swallowing their bullshit with zero critical thought.
The big corrupt establishment played you useless fucks like a goddamned fiddle. So much so, you're angry at being told they fooled your dumb ass.
Anonymous No.938990282 >>938990426
>>938990259
Oh its neither sides anon how surprising
Anonymous No.938990426 >>938990454 >>938990865
>>938990282
>There is only one other person on the internet
You're a fucking idiot.
Take your meds, schizo.
Anonymous No.938990454 >>938990511
>>938990426
Yea you're terminally online sorry your narrative is obvious here
Anonymous No.938990511
>>938990454
From the retard that spams /b/ 16 hours every day.
Anonymous No.938990595 >>938990808
>>938986397 (OP)
>The Russian interference narrative was fake
No. They did not find evidence of actual vote manipulation of voting machines...but they find plenty of evidence of attempting to sway public opinion with false narratives (like your's OP) and disinformation. They found Russian interference to be "sweeping and systemic" ....hence the 37 convictions lmao.
Anonymous No.938990808 >>938991640
>>938990595
>hence the 37 convictions lmao
For paying a porn star hush money and some small time business paperwork infractions.
Anonymous No.938990865
>>938990426
Well, obviously.
Anonymous No.938991071
>>938990156
> oh no the establishment

yeah, neck yourself, russian bootlicker
Anonymous No.938991640
>>938990808
>it was the democrats that hacked Hillary's emails
you really gonna go with that lol


Even the Senate Intelligence committee doesnt agre with you Vlad!

https://epic.org/wp-content/uploads/foia/doj/mueller-report/SSCI-report-070318.pdf


On February 16, 2018, special counsel Robert Mueller's team announced it had filed an indictment of 13 Russian nationals and three Russian organizations.[128][129] The indictment alleges that Yevgeny Prigozhin, a businessman with close ties to Russian President Vladimir Putin,[130] funneled significant funds to Internet Research Agency, a Kremlin-linked company headquartered in Saint Petersburg and described as a "troll factory",[131] for the purposes of carrying out a secret operation to influence the outcome of the 2016 United States presidential election while obstructing the enforcement of federal elections laws.

On July 13, 2018, Rod Rosenstein, the United States Deputy Attorney General, announced indictments of twelve Russian GRU officers for their efforts in the 2016 Democratic National Committee email leak,[
Russian accountant Elena Khusyayovna was charged in September 2018 with conspiracy to defraud the United States by interfering in the 2016 and 2018 U.S. elections.[174] She is accused of managing the finances of "Project Lakhta", a $35 million social media operation that used fake Twitter, Facebook and other profiles to spread misinformation and discord.[174] The crimes are alleged to have occurred from 2014 to 2018.[175]
Anonymous No.938993104 >>938993664 >>938993874
>>938988540
>if you cared about evidence at all
oh the irony. Plenty of evidence Russian attempted to interfere with the election. Why do you ignore all the evidence?
Anonymous No.938993534 >>938993595
>>938987460
when you consider that white atheists are indiscernible from jews online it all makes sense, it was literally the Jews and their appendages
Anonymous No.938993595
>>938993534
How dare you lump decent atheists in with filthy kikes.
Anonymous No.938993664 >>938993977 >>938994063
>>938993104
Russians attempting to interfere and it being associated with Trump are two entirely different things. You can't prove Trump had anything to do with it.

Of course Russia is fucking with us. We have been fucking with each other nonstop for decades. Al.ost like we have been in a "Cold war" against each other since before any of us were born. The cold war never really ended, it just changed from a weaponry race to an information war.
Anonymous No.938993874 >>938993921 >>938994063
>>938993104
The accusation was that Russian agents interfered specifically to help Trump, that Trump was aware of this, and that their interference is why Trump one.

The latter two are definitively untrue and so now you are goal post shifting by clinging to the first. Everyone interferes with everyones elections. Hell UK MPs promoted a trip to the US to actively campaign for the democrats…
Anonymous No.938993921
>>938993874
Won* rather

Sorry, I had originally laid this out as a one-two-three point argument and then when I rewrote my brain crossed a wire there lol
Anonymous No.938993977
>>938993664
THis is the claim from OP

>The Russian interference narrative was fake
thats a false claim. No amount of cope from you changes that
Anonymous No.938994050
>>938986397 (OP)
Funny cuz Todg said it was a problem, also a huge assessment has always been that the russian interference wasn't lmao hacking election machines it was getting the hillary email stuff going and *posting disnfo and starting shitflinging online* and lemme tellya underagefaggotOP, this site was significantly less annoying before 2014~2015 when all of that shit would of been going. /v/ went from angry at sjws but playing games to full on R vs L debates in basically every thread. If you think russians, long standing enemy of america, would be super respectful of our elections, you're beyond clinically retarded.
Anonymous No.938994063
>>938993664
>>938993874
>So.Much.Cope
lol
The Mueller report details multiple episodes in which there is evidence that the President obstructed justice. The pattern of conduct and the manner in which the President sought to impede investigations—including through one-on-one meetings with senior officials—is damning to the President.
Five episodes of obstructive conduct stand out as being particularly serious:
In June 2017 President Trump directed White House Counsel Don McGahn to order the firing of the Special Counsel after press reports that Mueller was investigating the President for obstruction of justice;[12] months later Trump asked McGahn to falsely refute press accounts reporting this directive and create a false paper record on this issue – all of which McGahn refused to do.[13]
After National Security Advisor Michael Flynn was fired in February 2017 for lying to FBI investigators about his contacts with Russian Ambassador Kislyak, Trump cleared his office for a one-on-one meeting with then-FBI Director James Comey and asked Comey to “let [Flynn] go;” he also asked then-Deputy National Security Advisor K.T. McFarland to draft an internal memo saying Trump did not direct Flynn to call Kislyak, which McFarland did not do because she did not know whether that was true.[14]
In July 2017, the President directed former campaign manager Corey Lewandowski to instruct the Attorney General to limit Mueller’s investigation, a step the Report asserted “was intended to prevent further investigative scrutiny of the President’s and his campaign’s conduct.”[15]
In 2017 and 2018, the President asked the Attorney General to “un-recuse” himself from the Mueller inquiry, actions from which a “reasonable inference” could be made that “the President believed that an unrecused Attorney General would play a protective role and could shield the President from the ongoing Russia Investigation.”[16]
Anonymous No.938994149 >>938994175
>foreign interference in our elections is totally unacceptable
Except for one nation who can literally be so blatant they name their PAC the American Israel Public Affairs Committee and be 100% open that they meddle in our elections and intentionally steer foreign policy so it benefits Israel.

You are just an antisemitic Nazi if you have any issues with this whatsoever. But Russia dabbling in our elections is a huge deal!
Anonymous No.938994175
>>938994149
Anonymous No.938994360 >>938994439
>>938986397 (OP)
bullshit

Senate Intelligence Committee report of Dec 2020, written by Republicans, says there WAS collusion between the trump campaign and Russian intelligence
Anonymous No.938994439 >>938995613
>>938994360
>Citation needed
Anonymous No.938995613 >>938996350 >>938996444
>>938994439
>Citation needed
>cited a source
holy fuck you are stupid

https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/2020/08/18/press-senate-intel-releases-volume-5-bipartisan-russia-report/
Anonymous No.938996350 >>938997592
>>938995613
>Can't cite where it says what he claims
Anonymous No.938996444 >>938997592
>>938995613
>It is right there in the 1,000 page document
>Just read it and see for yourself
>No I can't tell you what page
Fuck off
Anonymous No.938997592 >>938998001
>>938996350
>>938996444
>cant read
>Nooo...you cant just give me the source. You have to spoon feed it to me
really piss poor cope Ivan. jesus fuck you are so fucking stupid. It was was proven Russia made a large effort to influence the election. Your continued denial means you are either a lying shill or really fucking stupid- which is it?


>No I can't tell you what page
its dozen of pages of evidence. Why cant you read?
Anonymous No.938998001
>>938997592
Are you expecting underage trolls to take you seriously?