Thread 938997446

Instead of deporting all of the 3rd world fake refugees doing the stabbing, the UK does things like this.

>instead of stabbing, try slicing
>introduce butter knives to prevent slicing
the insanity of it all. what's next, bombs that don't go boom?

It is scary that people are so incompetent they can't even imagine taking an angle grinder and giving the knife a sharp tip in under 1 minutes. Your average radically lefty sheep can't even fathom making something with their bare hands or working metal.

Give me an angle grinder with a cutting wheel and I will make all of these knifes have a sharp tip by cutting on the red lines in a matter of seconds.

Thousands of foreign young men of fighting age are being imported into England and Ireland and placed in camps where they are paid, fed and watered. This is a very expensive operation. The politicians who do this strange thing are not the masterminds; they are simply carrying out the agenda of the UN which also operates a distinctly anti-white migration policy. I can think of only one logical reason as to why this perverse and unprecedented action is taking place. Perhaps I have reached the wrong conclusion. Could someone put my mind at rest by providing an alternative explanation for the thousands of foreign young men of fighting age housed in newly built barracks all across our countries?

>>938997446 (OP)
>that can't stab people
How much do you want to bet that someone striking someone in the eye with full force wouldn't still piece into their brain even with that square tip? Plus even if these can't stab, they can still cut. So these are just as effective at slicing someone's throat.

ya, the previous kings try to make peace, good role models; too bad leaders in energy production practice genocide infanticide and hold human life so low. you can buy a mans life to take your place in their judicial system a sick bastardization of what it was built to be, embarrassing

>>938997446 (OP)
The UK should legalize guns so that citizens with a CCW can defend themselves against these crazy knife stabbers.

>>938997586
More likely other things being used as weapons. Like sturdy branches. Pipes. Pipe fittings attached to the end of a sturdy branch.
Hatchet. Screwdrivers make pretty decent stiletto daggers.
Take your pick really. Sharpen up a fucking metal ruler if you really want. Break a window, duct tape a handle to it. That might be a more serious threat than a proper knife or machete too. As it has a chance of shards breaking off inside you when stabbed.
But no. We need to blunt all knives and tie everyone's hands behind their back at all times to prevent people who couldn't give two sodding fucks about the law in the first place from breaking the law that they already broke ten minutes ago and are probably going to break 10 minutes from now too.

>>938997667
Don't know. But every time I try to talk about the subject it gets shut down and the phrase "antisemitism!" gets yelled at me for some reason.

These liberals haven’t seen anything yet. These people coming from third-world countries believe you are weak, and they will exploit that weakness. Still, I see their point because if you were not weak, why would you want them in your country? This will not end well.

>>938997446 (OP)
our government is just so utterly inept it reminds me of that 3 suggestion last one out of the window meme (i'm too lazy to google and modify one)
>how can we fix the problem of gang violence and knife crime?
>ban 'zombie' knives
>ban ALL knives
>address the social and economic reasons that lead to young kids joining gangs and thus getting into knife related crime
out of the window...

god forbid they address any of the actual problems in society; let's just declare it all illegal and job done right? Knives? illegal. Porn? Illegal, crime? illegal.
useless fucking cunts.

>>938997879
Noticing jewish hypocrisy is antisemitic and a sign you are a Nazi.

>>938997643
Speaking of, I need to find a cheap way to sharpen my carbon steel kitchen knife, if that’s even possible.

>>938997890
Why not look at WHO is doing the knife crime? Oh wait, you call that racism.

>>938997944
>Carbon steel
So a regular knife. Any knife sharpener will work, retard.

>>938997890
In the mind of a politician, "why let a good tragedy go to waste?".
That is of course assuming that they aren't putting the pieces in place that leads to the problems in the first place. But assuming that everything is on the up and up and it's just them taking advantage of some random occurrence to further their crooked agenda.

>>938997446 (OP)
"Square-tip" blades make stabbing hurt even more.

>>938997446 (OP)
Scottish Chinese folk have had cleavers since year one - doesnt stop them slashing for their own enjoyment. This is nonsense for the wrong reasons. I quite like the design though.

Would it be inconceivable for people to start knapping stones again if this goes far enough?
'cause it wouldn't be that hard to make a spear or an axe with a stone and a few hours of fiddling about.

>>938998073
https://youtu.be/MhfuuKiTcYQ

>>938997643
angle grinders are illegal in the UK without a loicense. full auto angle grinders are illegal altogether

>>938998082
>Surrounded by thousands of pounds of high purity steel in your modern life
>I could make a weapon out of sticks and rocks
Why is everyone so fucking stupid? Have you not seen the show Forged in Fire? They regularly have challenges where people have only a few hours to make a finished blade with handle out of literally scrap metal. All it takes is a fre hot enough, a big hammer, and determination.

>>938997970
good lord man we can't just admit a certain demographic are responsible for crimes; can't go around offending the darkies now can we and get people complaining. No no it's best to just ban things, hope they get caught up in the crossfire and maybe all those pakistani peadophile gangs will quietly go home too. can't be too careful accusing a brown-skinned person of a crime these days by jove.

>>938998202
Some people are really really really really retarded and fire is hard.
Screwing some plumbing bits together is full retard simple.
That's why. No skill, no equipment, just pick up and grog smash.
And from a function historical perspective, big stick > shitty billy's first homemade scrap knife any day of the week. Not to mention that the big stick will be infinitely more functional as a weapon. Mostly due to reach, and the reality that edge alignment and blade quality are irrelevant. Because Big Stick™.

>>938998322
>No guns cucks are bragging about how they can make sharp sticks
Can you please take a step back and realize just how utterly pathetic and cucked you sound.

This is why we should never give up the right to bear arms. Because in only a few years we will be talking about how maybe if we sharpen sticks we can fight the 3rd world invading hordes.

>>938998003
You say “regular knife” as if I’m unaware that I made a very average purchase on Amazon a year or two back. I’ve not sharpened a knife before so I don’t know if you *can* sharpen a carbon steel knife since it’s the CHEAPER alternative to higher-end cookware such as pure stainless steel you Michelin Star wannabe. My assumption was no for that very reason. The only thing you sharpen is your dildo.

>>938998457
>implying I'm no guns
I'm on the side of "if nothing exists, man will make something" in this arguement as a show of absurdity to the thought you can ban anything.
Furthermore. Assuming you can into the base chemical components, you can make your own pipe shotgun and ammo pretty easy. gunpowder components are easily sourceable. The primer is a bit more difficult. But still doable with a bit of clever shed chemistry (shout out to Tom). Paper cartridge, and away ya go.
If you want to up the crafting skill required, but reduce the chemistry, drill a hole to turn your pipe shotgun from a slide and bang unit, into a single pipe touch unit. Add wooden stock for 1500s authenticity. Congrats. You now have a hand cannon. From here, if you want to get fancy, you can do some clockwork lockwork and into flintlock and keep the annoying match issue out of the question.
And after all this ranting... I wonder how hard it would be to use a bic lighter as an ignition source for a powder charge in a janky homebrew setup.....

>>938998457
Figure I should add in post; Gun Jesus has more of an ass than her.
>Still would though

>>938998517
Carbon steel makes a better blade. Stainless isn't a better blade material, it is lower maintenance material. Carbon steels are harder and tougher and will make the best knife, they are simply vulnerable to rust so they require a tiny bit of care.

This nerd really goes down the rabbit hole on knife sharpening. But here are some super cheap sharpening stones.
https://youtu.be/RPokRrX9DVk

>>938998517
you can sharpen high-carbon steel knives (all steel has some carbon in it, otherwise it would be iron)
there's not a thing in the world that can't be sharpened with the right technique and tools

>>938998711
I am even more confident you are noguns

>>938998892
Those piezoelectric barbecue starters would probably be better than a bic. The bic, after a bit of thought, is just a lazy man's flintlock. The butane really not doing much that a proper powder charge in the pan would do when presenting with the flint and steel.

Do I need to go into detail about Mr. Luty or something?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIhGCRIQnCA

Now. Assuming you're not in freedomland, but in 1984 aka United Kingdom. They just banned hardware stores because they fear you can make weapons. All weapons already banned because UK is full of retards.
They'd have to ban rocks and trees too. Because that's the next weapon in line.
Those that could find a proper pipe. As explained in the post above, could very easily into a ye olde hand cannon.
But why? When you can just sharpen a stick and jab a billy.
The only reason the Luty is worth anything, along with a grease gun or any other blowback chunk of steel with a spring inside a pipe setup, is that the ammo is readily available.

No shit don't give up yer guns if ya got 'em.
But with that said. Look at US gun rights 30 years ago vs today.
Your cake is slowly being eroded, friend. Yet not a single politician has taken lead to the face for it.
I'm starting to think it's you, who is no guns. For you have them, yet choose not to do anything with them.

>>938999116
>But with that said. Look at US gun rights 30 years ago vs today.
>Your cake is slowly being eroded,

The assault weapons ban was in effect 30 years ago 1994-2004. It expired in 2004. About half the states now allow concealed carry without a permit, the 2nd amendment is your permit. Our gun rights are constantly under attack from the left but they haven't actually managed to pass anything meaningful.

It was Reagan in the 1980s who passed the biggest gun control in recent history. That is why civilians can't buy a new fully automatic weapon anymore, it must be made before 1986. You used to be able to acquire the permits and buy a new one until 1986.

Trump banned bump stocks (overturned in court). Republicans let their guard down and don't even hold their own to the same standards they hold the Democrats. Most of what Biden tried to bna (pistol braces, forced reset triggers) has been overturned.

>>938999588
Can you buy a maxim? Which, by the way, is the best gun for home defense. Fuck that Vickers guy. He's a hack.
Or do you need a special tag for that? Pretty sure you can't own a full auto MP5 without special tax stamps and paper work.
What about a tank? Artillery? According to Jefferson you should be able to have any weapon a potential adversary could have.
So why can't US citizens have Davey Crockets?
I want to know. Because I agree with Jefferson when he replied to that merchant curious about cannon ownership.
Every free man has a right to defend himself. Some mother fucker out there who doesn't give a fuck about rules is going to have it, so why the fuck would you be restricted?
Until Jefferson's interpretation of the 2nd is restored, you yanks are but a shadow of your former selves.

>>938997643
>>938998139
You don't even need an angle grinder, you could sharpen it on a rock. There is no way to prevent people from having pointy things, besides turning the entire country into a literal prison. Though I would not put it past them.

>>938999906
Rocks with a potentially dangerous hardness level require a second degree natural element license to handle non-recreationally.

>>939000120
You know. We're all having a laugh right about now.
But when I was a child I laughed that they would tax air.
Carbon taxes are air taxes.
Don't give them ideas, please.

>>938999762
Yes, as an American I can buy a Maxim if I go through the proper paperwork. It is a full auto made prior to 1986. Cost will be the real prohibiting factor considering they are all collectors items. What I can't buy is a new full auto made in 2025.

Yes, you can also own functional tanks, cannons etc. Each explosive tank shell would require registration as a destructive device and it's own paperwork. But cannons and tanks that fire inert solid projectiles are easily owned by civilians.

You clearly don't know 10% as much as you think you know about gun laws

>>938999762
>Which, by the way, is the best gun for home defense
not only is this arguable, but it's also irrelevant. the second amendment protects your right to own weapons of war regardless of whether they are useful for defense of a house or to what degree.
>So why can't US citizens have Davey Crockets?
i don't know what that is, but if it's a weapon, the answer is because the constitution is being violated and the rights of americans to own weapons of war has been infringed upon.

>>939000184
You have to maintain that paperwork and those tax stamps which all costs money and time. To which most who have them get rid of them because it's not worth it for something you can't realistically use at the range.
I looked it up, you have to do the same (or more for destructive devices, don't really know) and get pre approved from uncle sam for it.
Jefferson, when asked, responded with "the fuck? Why you askin' bro? Of course you can have cannons".
I'm fully aware I don't know the minutia, but neither do you.
My point here is that Jefferson clearly stated the minutia wasn't to exist. That no fucking duh you can have any weapon.
And who wrote the fucking thing?
JEFFERSON!

>>939000231
>the answer is because the constitution is being violated and the rights of americans to own weapons of war has been infringed upon.
Correct.
Davey Crocket is a "rifle grenade" sort of mini nuke thing.

>>939000250
Just shut the fuck up already, holy fuck. You have no idea what you are talking about.

>>939000329
You sure about that?
The man who came in with a false premise of me being noguns in the first place? Who's first and every step was a misstep?
It's okay if you want to be sad. I would be too. If my rights were trampled on. (which they are from the perspective of modern day america. And modern day america, from the perspective of the founding fathers who wrote the constitution)

>>938997446 (OP)
pretty fucking sure you can stab someone with that no problem...

>>938997446 (OP)
>>938998139
>open the door while driving down the road
>hold knife point onto the road at an angle
>a point forms in several seconds

at some point UK people are going to have to decide whether they'd like to live like humans with access to tools and silverware or live with brown people who need to be paid for and give them violence in return. its not a hard choice

>>938997970
Nigga leave my Christmas wreath alone

>>939000394
Sharpening sticks is retarded. Potato guns are retarded.
No significant gun laws have passed in the last 30 years. In contrast, they have gotten more lenient. Concealed carry laws have loosed up significantly in about half the states, and assault weapon ban gone.
The tax stamp is a one time cost.
Almost everything you have said is straight up fucking wrong or just retarded. I am going to go beat my head against a rock because it will be more productive than this conversation and cause less of a headache.

>>939000562
You got a license to sharpen that rock with your head?

You still miss my point. All this excess was tacked on later and has to be pulled off at great effort. When it shouldn't have been tacked on in the first place.
My other point being that even if you manged to remove all guns, it's not hard to get a pipe and make a literal ye olde hand cannon.
And you, the damned fool of fools, thinks this = noguns.
bash away! Try to hit the rocks at the right angles to knapp them into a nice hand axe for yourself.

>>939000753
Why do retards always think we will go back to the stone age? Even if everything collapsed and we were hit by a meteor or something, all the steel and metals around you aren't going to vanish.

>Surrounded by thousands and thousands of abandoned cars each with 1,000+ pounds of steel.
>I can't find any steel
>I should probably sharpen sticks and rocks
You are just a fucking idiot. I am out of here.

>>939000947
And this is why I explained that it's easy to make pipe shotguns. But why would you need that when you can jab a bobby and take his SMG and ammo pouch? Seems like a lot of extra work for little gain.
Also, we're talking modern day UK here. Not Fallout.

>>938997446 (OP)
> Hunky dunky headline taking corporate bait.
Knife manufacturer from America here.
These patterns are not new.
This type of non-puncturing knife has been in common use in butcher shops for literally centuries, because the blunt tip won't accidentally puncture a thin membrane like those around certain organ tissues.
This feels like gimmicky marketing for a culture specific problem, but utilizing existing patterns.
This is just such a non- talking point, and the fact an article was made about it is crazy to me. Imagine if someone made an article complaining about the George Foreman right now. That's how this feels to me.

>>938998517
> Carbon steel is cheaper than alloy stainless
You're retarded. Hope this helps

>>939000947
Should also mention, type of steel and thickness matters here if you're making firearms. Barrels are hard. Just look at home made african firearms as an example. A lot have giant blown out holes in the sides for a reason. And as some Kentucky fag named Scott will tell you. That shit will make your neck itch.
So a good pipe is probably best for your shed shotty.
Just sayin'.

>>939000169
> Carbon tax is air tax
What?
Please explain this

>>939000231
>Violates constitution
Originalism unless it's the second amendment, then we ignore all writings from the time which specifically stated the purpose of the amendment.

>>939001185
They tax CO2. Not carbon specifically. Just CO2.
You produce CO2 as you breathe.
Air tax.
Sort of.

>>939001234
>They tax CO2
But they don't tax the air that you breathe, do they? Like, that's specifically not a part of the carbon tax. What else could you mean if that's clearly not true?

>>939001291
Not yet directly. But give them time.

>>939001164
Or if you live in the USA just buy modern firearms, stockpile ammo, and stop being a faggot who talks about what he will do when society has totally collapsed and he will have 10,000 bigger problems than trying to make a homemade gun. If shit has hit the fan that hard you will be trying to find drinking water, trying not to freeze in winter, and trying not to die of dysentery. The fantasy scenario you are talking about will never happen.

>>939001317
I'm not really sure how to reply to that. You're telling me that you believe and post things you don't actually have any justifiable reason to believe.

>>938997446 (OP)
The fact that a teenage girl has had to resort to carrying two weapons for her own protection shows you just how drastically bad the situation is in the UK.

>>939001317
>>939001291
>>939001234
>>939001185
Britain imposed a sunlight tax on the Irish and taxed them for how many windows a building had. You had to pay Britain for access to sunlight indoors. There is an old bank in Dublin that famously closed off all its windows to avoid the tax and they are still blocked to this day.

>>939001413
Again. Not talking total collapse. Talking UK today.
I agree, that stockpiling guns and ammo is the best way. But modern UK doesn't have that option.
They do however have the option of getting a bunch of blokes together and bashing a bobby down and taking his shit.
Which for the umpteenth time is my whole point here.
>>939001467
Rain tax isn't a joke. You get taxed on how much hard surface (roof driveway, sidewalks, etc) you have.

>>939001467
When?
>Introduced 1690, lasted until 1850.
Oh so when the Commonwealth was known for using taxation to enforce the crown's social standards; say like when windows became cheaper to manufacture, so poorer establishments began to have them, so the Crown in an attempt to maintain a social hierarchy, imposed a tax. The same happened in France for the same reasons.

You do know what they call this right? A false equivalence.

>>939001445
Consistent track records of political winds has left me projecting that X will happen if given enough time.
I think is the best way to explain it.
Carbon tax isn't directly taxing air. But fuck me is it close. To the point I don't find the joke of an air tax so funny anymore.

>>939001506
>Rain tax isn't a joke
You benefit from county storm water drainage. Your disproportionate affect on the maintenance of that system definitely needs to be taxed. Are you people all about just simplifying a topic and complaining about the strawman you've made of it?

>>939001612
>It is close
In what way? It's literally tied to production. It's not any different than any other production tax levied throughout Europe. This is a ridiculous claim made by someone equating one thing with another based on speculative flossing.

>>939001662
of course, newspaper reading level is low like grade school low.

>>939001662
The maintenance of that system has been handled by other means for decades. Why impose a tax on rain now?
>>939001707
My cooking fire is production that needs to be taxed?
The carbon taxes are on fuel too. Is going to visit your granny considered production?
You produce CO2 all day too. It's not a stretch to tax your breathing under this logic.
Hell, with the work we do to reduce cow farts....

>>939001707
>Pollution is OK if you can afford to pay me for the damage you are doing to the Earth

Billion dollar mega corporations can eat the cost while the restrictions kill innovation and small businesses trying to compete.

>>938997446 (OP)
Pointless