Thread 939028857

>be me
>friends with an atheist
>when I say "atheist" I mean REALLY atheist. like, you know the steryotype of the "fedora wearing neckbeard reddit atheist"? imagine that in real life, except he didnt wear a fedora, and he was scrawny as shit (but he was just as abnoxious about his atheism)
>whatever, who cares?
>get drunk with him one night
>we both get pretty plastered (him more than me cuz of how scrawny he is)
>he starts rambling on about gay and trans people for some reason?
>like, he starts shitting on them worse than any christian I ever met (and my parents are religious greek immigrants)

wtf? I dont get it. like, dont get me wrong, I'm not into the fruity shit either, but it just confuses me. if you're THAT militant in your atheism, what reason do you have to hate fags that much? for me it makes sense, I'm greek orthodox. maybe im not as religious as I should be, I'll admit, but still. my god says its wrong, so I'll treat it as such.

but atheists dont have a sense of "objective morality", so I dont get how you can agree with me on gay people while being an atheist. what reasons do atheists have for hating gays?

>>939028857 (OP)
Homosexuals and transvestites are repulsive and insufferable. You don’t have to be religious to hate them.

you can be religious and a shitty person and you can be an atheist and a shitty person. Could be they were raised by hateful folks, could be they're closeted and self-loathing.

>>939028901
>You don’t have to be religious to hate them.

but why tho? without using any god(s), without using any religion, using only atheistic/secular logic and reasoning, why would one hate fags? the religious angle is simple enough, but what are the secular reasons?

>>939029047
They’re annoying ugly tacky narcissistic cry bullies who groom kids. Isn’t that enough?

>>939029065
>i believe everything I read online the internet
I hate retards who willfully remain retarded.

>>939028972
>closeted and self-loathing.
calling this. he got drunk and insecure. this also happens with starwars fans and pedophiles

>>939029151
I don’t need to go online to see homosexuals for what they are: perverts and narcissists. I’m not particularly religious but I understand why our ancestors stoned these freaks to death.

>>939028857 (OP)
If you actually listen to Jesus you wouldn't think trans and gays were so bad though. The haters come from culture, just like atheist. Because Jesus was vehemently against judging people.
But everybody has their brain worms ig... We all want to be accepted and we're trying to evolve and we trust the universe too much in the process.
But I actually listen to Jesus and don't judge anybody till they wrong me personally.
Also, I'm for freedom. Fuck power kink niggers.

>>939029300
>repeats the same buzzwords his handlers taught him
>i ThInK for MySeLf

>>939029428
It’s not a buzzword. Homosexuals are all narcissists, they’re ugly and annoying, most of them are pinkos, and a good proportion are pedophiles. You don’t have to be religious to hate their guts.

>>939029300
'Our ancestors' stoned people to death for wearing the wrong fabric and rarely if ever killed gay or trans people. Gay stuff was actually incredibly common in the past and even rural parts of the world it still is. The Bible hardly even mentions it but one verse and it was more geared towards 'tea boys'. People have some really stupid ideas of what it ancestors' we like. They were super gay, just look at ancient art.

>>939029527
Either way, hating faggots is an ancient tradition. The Germans pressed them into bogs, for example.

>>939029374
please marry me

>>939029496
>pedophiles
>i believe everything I read on the internet
You know this is demonstrably false. Homosexuals don't molest kids any more than straight people do. You are being manipulated by propaganda. You are too dumb to think on your own so you let others do it for you.

>>939029561
History is full of gay poets, kings, emperors, warriors, and saints. The only thing ancient about your view is the ignorance. It might be your grandpa's baggage but or ancestors' were queer as the blazes.

>>939029703
Actually statistics show that homosexuals are disproportionately likely to be child molesters.

>>939029707
History is full of all kinds of things, doesn’t mean you have to like them.

>>939029720
And retards are disproportionately more likely to believe every piece of propaganda from the internet that confirms their bias, whether its true or not.

>>939029720
It's old propaganda used against them. There is no predisposition to like kids if you like the same sex.

>>939029778
No, it’s statistically true. Homosexuals are more likely to be pedophiles. They are disgusting perverts. I don’t need religion to hate the freaks.

>>939029833
Funny how your kind can never cite a source that isn’t from a hate group. Every legitimate study shows no link

>>939029833
Simply saying the same thing over and over again won't make it magically become true.

>>939029891
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/1556756/

>ITT ignorant anons learn that society's attitudes to sexual preferences can change over time and there isn't a universal "right or wrong"
>ITT ignorant anons may also learn that moral attitudes are not necessarily driven by religion

>>939029743
>in the past, (thing I hate) didn't exist
>yes it does
>in the past (thing I hate) was universally hated!
>no it wasnt
>well, who cares about the past anyway?
your only achievement in life is winning online debates in your head by being too retarded to grasp basic principles of constructive discussion
>>939029932
>anon
>learning
if you're not here to masturbate, mess around, or laugh, the website would be better off with you dying.

>>939029914
>1992
>Cherry picked
>Debunked study
find something at least in this century lol

>>939030044
Lost lol

>>939030044
>if you're not here to masturbate, mess around, or laugh, the website would be better off with you dying.
And yet there is the first half of your post. Unless rhetoric makes you cum, I guess

>>939030169
no I'm just retarded and haven't eaten today

>>939029047
you dont know much about biology and about how evolution works do you?

>>939030436
you dont know much about biology and about how evolution works do you?

>>939028857 (OP)
>if you're THAT militant in your atheism, what reason do you have to hate fags that much?

There are PLENTY of non-religious reasons to hate faggots and trannies.

Trannies insist gender is on a spectrum when there is literally over 100 years of scientific data to the contrary.

Faggot behavior is often strongly correlated with mental instability.

>>939030465
more than you obviously, if you have to ask these questions

>>939030044
I think you’re missing the point OP asked why do people hate faggots and transvestite if they aren’t religious I gave you some reasons. Now you’re arguing with me that the reasons are invalid, but that’s not the point.

put your friend in situations where he must fufill his worldview, watch him crumble and beg for death. Your friend hates trans, give him the trans girlfriend, your friend hates gays force him to acknowledge the gay agenda in his workplace, haha, your friend refuses to believe in god, put him in front of the oncoming train.

>>939030668
>>939030668
>the "gays are pedophiles" thing didn't work so I'll change strategies
>uhhh they're mentally unstable!
>also the past 100 years of gender studies show [the opposite of what they show] trust me
How did you see this working out in your head

>>939031289
>literally using the "no atheists in a foxhole" argument for religion
Classic stuff.

>>939031430
NTA but homosexuals are disproportionately likely to be pedophiles per the study quoted above.

>>939031518
>1992
>Cherry picked
>Debunked study
>find something at least in this century lol
Keep up retard

>>939031571
What was 1992 a particularly unrepresentative year for gay pedophiles? Lmfao.

>>939031639
A bumper crop of gay child molesters in 1992, so it doesn’t count.

>>939029047
There's nothing in the bible about hating vegetarians or cyclists, but many people still hate them. I feel like you're sort of being, for lack of a better word "prejudiced" against atheists. Like, you have an idea in your head what they should act like, and if reality doesnt suit your mind, then you think reality is wrong. Im atheist, and I don't hate all transsexuals, but I absolutely think the majority of them have mental health problems that have lead them to believe they are trans, and I say this not just because its statistically true that they are more prone to mental health problems, but I have actually attempted to be friends with multiple of them.

I was friends with one for nearly a decade but his mentality just kept slipping every year. Had to cut him off after he sent me pics of his "tuck job". I explained to him I'm married, and this isnt how a woman would act. Male friends dont act like this with each other. He said I was acting like a bigot. How the fuck is it bigoted for a straight husband to tell his friend he doesnt want to see dick pics? Had to cut him off. I also hired a tranny once for my company, and it was a nightmare. As soon as we hired him, they used a fake number to send me gay porn and tried to groom me for sex. Every other day there was some excuse why they were late or had to leave early. They went to HR and filed a complaint against nearly everyone. This was apparently his tactic. File a complaint against everyone so the paperwork is in place so that if anyone complains about him, the history is already available that he had an issue the person first and is only being retaliated against. Then we found out they were prostituting to old sugar daddy's, and we got him arrested. It was a nightmare.

I know they aren't all crazy, but too many of them have genuine mental health problems.

>>939031672
>this statistic is supported not only by the debunked study in the thread but also this story i made up
Alright this thread is too stupid to argue in for fun

>>939031759
This isn’t for fun, we genuinely despise faggots and transvestites and want them to die.

>>939028857 (OP)
Why do you fags care so much? I basically got into argument over Mexicans and libtard shit the other day with some crybaby faggot. I'm tired of you faggots

>>939028857 (OP)
>but atheists dont have a sense of "objective morality", so I dont get how you can agree with me on gay people while being an atheist. what reasons do atheists have for hating gays?
morals and political beliefs are independent of religious views, are you 12?
you can be christian and be fine with gay people
you can be atheist and hate trans people and be super racist
these are independent axes, people aren't a monolith, everyone has their own collection of views on things in the world

>>939031759
Bro, are you actually a faggot and thats why you're so pressed about your atheist friend because you secretly wanna fuck him?

>>939028857 (OP)
I am an atheist that leans conservative politically. I hate trannys, fags, and illegal immigrants. People automatically assume I am some far left fedora wearing retard when they find out I am atheist. My older brother is hardcore Christian and we debate about it all the time. All he ever does is find the most retarded radical leftist atheist talking points online and then strawman me as if I believe them. It gets infuriating.

Socially conservative atheists exist.

>>939031759
>Cutting off perfectly functional body parts isn't a mental illness!
This. My 6 year old son said he is a pirate so we removed one of his eyes so he can have a pirate patch and chopped off one of his legs at the knee so he can have a peg leg. It is 2025 and I am not a fucking bigot.

>>939029374
you really sound stupid as fuck....are you even a christian? why are you talking about Jesus like that? and those "power kink niggers" are the ones trying to lead people to freedom.

God is definitely real, he/she/it is just a complete fucking douche bag unworthy of any kind of respect, like i don't actually know anything else about him/her/it, but i do know God is a fucking disgrace

OP here, I think yall lost the plot a bit

I get yall have some opinions on gays, or religious people, or atheists, or whatever the fuck, but thats not why I made this thread.

the point was to ask: without using any gods or religious justification, only using atheistic and secular reasoning, what are the reasons a hardcore atheist might have to hate gays?

im not asking weather or not religious people are right, or if being anti-lgbt is bad, im asking what the secular reasons are to be anti-lgbt. thats what I'm confused about.

>>939029047
>repulsive and insufferable
They told you in the first sentence. The rainbow mafia shit the bed and refuses to admit it.