Thread 939425798

The murder rate in the 25 states that voted for Donald Trump has exceeded the murder rate in the 25 states that voted for Joe Biden in every year from 2000 to 2020.

Over this 21-year span, this Red State murder gap has steadily widened from a low of 9% more per capita red state murders in 2003 and 2004 to 44% more per capita red state murders in 2019, before settling back to 43% in 2020.

Altogether, the per capita Red State murder rate was 23% higher than the Blue State murder rate when all 21 years were combined.


https://www.thirdway.org/report/the-two-decade-red-state-murder-problem

>>939425798 (OP)
Low IQs mostly, and too many guns.

We've been killing blue staters that try to move here.

>>939425911
"A post on X from March 6, 2025, describes "WhoIsMakingNews.com" as "Zionist shitlib trash" run by "democrat party media people." This suggests a perception of left-leaning bias, possibly aligned with mainstream Democratic or liberal perspectives. The term "shitlib" is slang often used by critics (sometimes from the right or far left) to denote establishment liberals. However, X posts are anecdotal and not conclusive evidence."

Garbage.

>>939425911
Racist. Why do you say the states with the highest black population are "low IQ"?

Like cavemen, they have under developed brains. It's a low IQ and small penis thing, just like their hero 'tiny hands' - so sad!

>>939425942
no one wants to live in your shithole state chud

>>939425798 (OP)
Better send in the national guard!

>>939426094
You're hearing voices, pedophile.

>>939425911
>One shot propaganda website run by a democrat LGBTQ activist.
Try harder

>>939426134
Because they're also the most Republican states
And everyone knows Republicans are really dumb, they vote against their own interests
Retards
(Also their small penises make them angry)

Do you get paid to post this propaganda garbage or are you doing it for free?

>>939426301
Everyone knows Republicans are stupid and violent and vote against their own interests.
Also hate anyone not like them and hate themselves for being closeted homosexuals
Literally common knowledge

>>939426348
>People that don't like I want are voting against their own interests, blah blah blah
Why in the world would they vote in the interests of people like you who hate them? Voting democrats is very, very obviously not in their interests. You'd kill them or put them in reeducation camps if you could.

>>939426354
>>939426301

it's not propaganda, the stats are there with citations

>>939426421
>Everyone knows......(A bunch of retarded bullshit)
kek

>>939425798 (OP)
Per capita
Racial breakdowns

>>939426421
Take your meds, crazy guy.

>>939426423
Projecting
They don't hate Republicans they just know they have to handle them gently because they're stupid

>>939426423
>reeducation camps
Take your meds.

>>939426463
Sorry you can't handle the truth nuke

>>939425798 (OP)
impressive thats so true youve really changed my mind very nice
now lets see the racial demographics

>>939426442
I simple look at the methodology shows that they massaged the data until they got the result they were looking for. The sort of thing dumb people will buy because they don't understand what's going on.
You're either dumb as shit (most likely), or intentionally misinforming and misleading people.

>>939426169
>>939425911
>>939426348
>>939426421
Hard projecting

You protest too much methinks

>>939426487
>My obvious propaganda is true because reasons!
You are an evil, deceptive person.

>>939426500
They massaged the data, okay saar
Any data you don't agree with is wrong

>>939426553
God, you're dumb. Reread what I wrote again very carefully, because it's clear you didn't understand it.

>>939426423
>>939426444
>>939426463
>>939426524
There were more (you)s but fuck it lmao

Literally enjoy laughing at all you dumbasses who will back up anything your shitty club does


And ya fuck most Dems too but that doesn't make you any less retarded sorry

>>939425798 (OP)
I didn't know we could gerrymander statistics. That's interesting.
Now gerrymander the statistics for how many cities we would have built on the moon by now if we didn't have to babysit black people and pay taxes to live away from them while pretending to enjoy their company.

>>939426686
I was hoping someone had posted it.

>>939426597
Whatever you say rajeet

> Even when murders in the largest cities in red states are removed, overall murder rates in Trump-voting states were 12% higher than Biden-voting states across this 21-year period and were higher in 18 of the 21 years observed.

"The largest cities" — yeah, all Democrat. 12% higher? Is this first-degree murder? Second? Manslaughter? So light on the details... for some reason. Is self-defense included?

Police shootings?

Oh my god... we haven't done the gun control think and lumped in suicide with murder, have we?

Finally, I don't count Third Way as anything like objective, they're just another Dem false front:

"Tired of gridlock? Try the Third Way!"
"What's that?!"
"Vote for all Democrat policies!"

>>939426686
so?

the red states are violent, why don't they have better policies to fix this?

>>939426763
We could have been building the Star Trek future, but lefties said we needed more diversity

>>939426779
Seriously, sometimes I wonder how it is you can manage to turn a computer on and start up a web browser. You have to be the dumbest person who regularly posts on /b/

>>939426844
except lefties are responsible for basically all tech and scientific innovation

> pic related


whups guess that argument doesnt work huh

>>939426853
>occupy democrats
bait used to be believable

>>939425942
Nobody is moving to your shitty state.

>>939426906
>Bank headquarters
kek
You really are just a complete dumbass.

>>939426299
It's pretty well-established that Christians are pedos.

>>939426906
>lefties are now shilling for big banks and corpos

>>939426849
You have to be the easiest person to bait on /b/ lmao

> be me
> grow up in red state
> get bullied and made fun of
> for getting good grades
> for liking to read
> for not being into muh guns
> or the same 10 boring heehaw country songs
> gtfo as soon as i finish high school
> go to college
> meet smart interesting people who don't all think the same thing
> get kickass job in the city
> tons of good restaurants, museums, concerts, etc.


never looked back

>>939427126
IKR? It's amazing how easy it was for the propagandists to turn them from "Occupy Wall street" to "suck Wall Streets dick at every opportunity"

>>939427066
name one major cultural, technical, artistic or scientific thing that came out of a hick state

hint: there aren't any

you idiots just drive machines to feed the people who actually create value

>>939427160
>I'm not really retarded, I just pretend to be for hours every day!
kek

>>939427174
then everyone clapped and Taylor Swift showed up at your house and sucked your dick

>>939427203
except you worship the ultra rich (trump, musk, etc)

>>939427231
nah, i'm not really into her. she's boring and looks like a barbie doll.

>>939427216
Powered flight, invented in North Carolina,
Moon landing, headquartered in Houston, Texas and Florida.

thread really touched a nerve huh?

sucks to be total failures, doesn't, chuddies?

>>939426923
Why is this a list of the most black neighborhoods? Are you racist?

>>939427234
I don't worship anyone, crazy guy. I'm not a democrat.

>>939427276
anything in the last 50 years? ahahahahahaha

>>939427277
>Post retarded shit
>Get called retarded
>UMADBRO?
kek

>>939427296
riiiiiiiiiiight

>>939427277
>i-i-im winning!
Keep telling yourself that, xister.

>>939427286
>Moves goalposts
kek

>>939427276
You don't know why they launch from Florida, do you?

>>939427313
>more leftist cope and projection
you're adorable

>>939427365
Closer to the equator, easier orbital solutions.
Stop trying to move the goalposts. You ask for a single thing, I named to of the biggest achievements in scientific history.

>>939427405
>to
two

>>939427216
Name a blue state invention. And buttsex doesnt count

>>939427405
>You ask for a single thing
I didn't ask anything, that was my first post. Nice quick use of google by the way. The point I was insinuating is that NASA is a national effort. You seem to think everyone who ever worked there is from those states. They guy who got them into space to begin with wasn't even American, he was German. Get more mad now.

>>939425798 (OP)
yeah, i drive fast whenever i go through hick parts of my state because i don't want to catch a stray bullet that some feral bubba shot

>>939427567
>he was German
You're gonna lose your shit when you find out what kind of German he was

>>939427403
>>939427504
>>939427312
>>939427322

fyi

>>939427567
I didn't use google at all. That was just off the top of my head.
Your point was "Name two things red states have done" and you got two of the biggest scientific accomplishments of the twentieth century.
So you hem and how and try to move the goalposts.
Note that I said "headquartered" in Houston and Florida, also.
You really do not have to be publicly this stupid, nor is anyone buying your attempt at samefagging.
"First post" my ass.

>>939427649
Now, I wonder what happens when you break those stats down by race...

>>939427699
top 10 are all white af, retard

hahahahahahaha

>>939427649
it's way more entertaining watching you faggots dance around the nigger plague lol

>>939427661
You're arguing with a leftist. Leftists are incapable of intellectual honesty

>>939427405
You mean you can't see how that is the same as Biden being'soft' on crime? That makes no sense

>>939425798 (OP)
>https://www.thirdway.org/
NICE BLOG, FAGGOT!

>>939425911
>whoismakingnews.com
>lefty media propaganda machine run by jews

>>939427893
What? Mister 90's crime bill responsible for the mass incarceration of black men was soft on crime? Who said that?
The "soft on crime" wasn't at the federal level, it occurred mostly in city level jurisdictions, and had a lot to do with Soros backed DAs.

>>939425798 (OP)
Let me guess, what drove murder up in these states was cities like:
Jackson MS
Memphis TN
New Orleans LA
San Antonio TX
Little Rock AK
St. Louis MS

And I'm not digging into that propaganda source, but I'm guessing they're also using UCR data, which blue cities and states don't like to report to. I say this because Oakland has the biggest increase in the country over the last 20 years by over double. LA and SF have also seen dramatic increases, which means California should definitely be on the list.

lmao OP abandoned his thread because no one was falling for his propaganda

>>939428299
Because he got BTFO after posting those two propaganda sources and then was too dumb to even understand the criticisms.

>>939427339
I just entered the thread. But I'm looking at something interesting. The graphic in your OP post is misleading because it uses the scary red arrows to show per capita rates higher in Republican states, but actually highlights many states with lower homicides than Democrat ones. For example, why are Montana and ND highlighted but not Oregon? Now let's pivot to a second image. The map of homicide rates per capita in Republican states is literally a map of how non-white a given population is. By census area (image in my next post) for Alaska, the area with the highest crime by far is Yukon-Koyukuk with a white population of 25%, and one of the lowest is the Southeast Fairbanks area with 82.70% white. This only fails to hold for the North Slope Burrough in the far north, the Aleutians (Caveat: 44% Asian, and asians are known to be lower crime. Combined: >42% white and asian for east, >59% for west) and Dillingham (~25% white) but all are extremely rural areas.

Montana is listed on your OP graphic, and that's 88.9% white. Fair enough. But on the county map, almost all of the homicide per capita comes from one county: Roosevelt, with a white population of 35.8%.

Most of these liberal maps of IQ, crime, and such are just racial maps. That's it. That's literally all there is to it.


Some links, you can find the rest. I'm phoneposting so it's annoying going back and forth.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yukon%E2%80%93Koyukuk_Census_Area,_Alaska
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southeast_Fairbanks_Census_Area,_Alaska
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montana
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roosevelt_County,_Montana

>>939428354
>>939425798 (OP)
Here's the county map. I can go through it more exhaustively.

Now as a final note, most crime from red states comes from the southern, highly metropolitanized areas like Atlanta. Yes, another racial map. Red states are more diverse than blue states, and this leads to higher crime rates and greater anti-minority sentiments as whites are subjected to these crimes.

If you spit on an image of China you feel the relief of their soul. When it comes, it cleansed me.

>>939428337
hell probably try again tomorrow with the exact same shit

>>939426500
Yeah I've been looking at also it and it doesn't make sense. Then they go on to claim (erroneously) that poverty causes more homicide, and red states are poorer, although they seem to forget to use per capita at this point. This is some ShareBlue bullshit.

>>939426853
Not per capita, dungus.

>>939428406
>>939428354
Lousiana is the highest crime and has a white non-hispanic population of 55.8%, that's a lot! Now let's see where the crimes come from:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orleans_Parish,_Louisiana
>Orleans Parish, white population: 31.61%
>Black: 53.61%
Oh. Monroe in Ouachita Parish:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ouachita_Parish,_Louisiana
>30.1% White
>60% Black
Oh. And the lowest crime rates? Areas like Cameron Parish:
>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cameron_Parish,_Louisiana
>White population: 92%
Oh.

I could go on. So not only is the OP infographic misleading, it's also wrong. And even any map of crime, economy, or IQ is just a racial map. That's really it.

>>939426906
>tech and scientific innovation
California: Professional and Business Services
Oregon: Retail Trade, followed by Food Services and Drinking Places
Washington: You got this one correct. Microsoft, Amazon, Boeing, etc
New Mexico: Oil and Gas
Colorado: Community, business, and personal services
Minnesota: Real Estate
I'm not going to keep going. You're dumb as fuck and I've already done too much.

Nigger. Dumb shit nigger.

OP is hereby declared guilty of imbecilism. Thread adjourned.

where did op go?

>>939427174
r/thathappened
You should have stayed there

>>939427234
You mean Biden handing out billions to big auto and silicon valley? Or you mean Obama handing out billions to big auto and the banks?

>>939427174
>Obvious larp
>Doesn't actually know what it's like in a red state
kek

>>939427313
Left can't meme.
They can only steal and play opposite day.

>>939429227
probably posting in a bbc thread

>>939427405
Another big reason is because there's a large body of water to ditch if shit hit's the fan, instead of throwing debris from SF to Jersey.

>>939427699
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>>939429351
OP raped to death

>>939427649
>motherjones
what the fuck is with you people and your shit sources?

>>939429333
And the funny part about Biden is that he's pretty much been the antithesis of what they claim to want for his entire career. A shill for the big banks, pro-security state, pro-war, and was Israel's goto guy in the senate. Biden was chosen by Obama as VP in order to assure the big banks that he wasn't going to prosecute them for the sub-prime mortgage crisis, either.
The complete opposite of what they claim they want.

>>939429436
Protip: Shit sources are the only place they find what they want.

>>939427649
How many of these are suicides?

>>939429466
Every day is opposite day in the mind of a lib. Their entire existence relies on DARVO.

>>939428354
They're only counting the increase. So if Idaho's rate went from .03 to .09, that's a 300% increase, but if California's went from .400 to .500, that's only a 25% increase.

Another Shareblue shill thread BTFO. Mr Soros will not be happy

>>939429502
https://publichealth.jhu.edu/center-for-gun-violence-solutions/gun-violence-data/state-gun-violence-data/alaska
>Alaska had the 3rd highest gun suicide rate in the country overall in 2023.
>Alaska had the highest gun suicide rate for American Indian/Alaska Native people in 2023.
You tell me.

>>939429773
Man, this was one of the funniest YLYLs I've been on in years.

>>939429809
>>939429502
OP raped again btw

>>939429502
>this is a huge and growing problem and is why i am against gun control!

give me your number one reason why guns in the hands of the general public are necessary to a civil society and i'll get back to you.

>>939429809
>American Indian/Alaska Native
And you see just that in this chart. >>939428406
Jesus fucking christ those are some depressed people. I guess suicide sounds nice when your wife is a butterball in sealskin and you haven't seen the sun for 11 months.

>>939429925
First amendment damn near guarantees a civil society. Just look how many gun homicides there are among whites in red states.

>>939429996
Imagine how low the rates would be if whites were allowed to carry in blue cities.

>>939429943
Depression is always high at high latitudes. Humans are a sub-tropical species and the adaptations to arctic and sub-arctic regions is mostly cultural.

>>939429925
>explain to me how self defense is necessary
fucking kys, you're no good to anyone alive

>>939429925
Those are all subjective values. Why "ought" a society be civil, or liberal, or free, and likewise rustic, conservative, or ordered are subjective. A value judgement like
>I ought to be able to defend myself and not be required to rely on government to protect me, the people ought to have the means to fight asymmetric warfare...
Are subjective values and no more or less worthwhile than
>We ought not to fear being killed by guns, we ought not to allow access to killing tools...
>We ought to rely on the justice system rather than individual...
But yes, if blacks and hispanics couldn't have guns, the US crime rate would be lower than Finland's. Still, I prefer to have the capacity to defend myself than to hope the nearest black american virtuously surrendered his own weapon.

>>939430200
Gun homicide*

>>939430096
I'm looking at that chart again and that's not too far off from the US average. I've seen different numbers but it's around 60% or 2/3s.

>>939429925
Kinda weird how you set it up for only your predetermined reason
>explain to me why naked women in public aren't necessary for advancement in cancer research
You're just talking nonsense, man.

>>939426829
The countryside isn't violent. The cities are, and the cities are blue.

The problem is the combination of niggers and liberal policies.

This thread is gold.
Why do shitlibs even bother?

>>939425798 (OP)
the top 10 states (including D.C. for our purposes here) by murder rate are full of niggers, beaners, and Injuns
D.C. has the highest murder rate by far, and it is solidly Democrat with about 60% of its residents being niggers or beaners
so the correct question is "Why are shitskins so violent?"

>>939427649
>Gun deaths
Notice they don't say murder or homicide. You always have to pay attention to how these sneaky anti-gun faggots word things.
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2025/03/05/what-the-data-says-about-gun-deaths-in-the-us/#what-share-of-u-s-gun-deaths-are-murders-what-share-are-suicides

>>939432964
they do something similar when they talk about "gun deaths" in "children"
they don't split out suicides, and they never tell you how many of those "children" are 17.5 year old gangbangers who died in a turf war over the drug trade

10/10 thread

>>939432063
Those DC numbers are a lie. They're much higher than that.

>>939433099
When it comes to guns, "children" are 19 and under.
Another one is school shootings. Any gun fired in a school zone - that multi-block radius around a school - is a school shooting and 99% of them are gang shootouts.

>>939433487
They also flip flop on the definition of mass shooting mid debate. They love to say we have hundreds of mass shootings every year.
Pic related.
>More than one a day!
Then they say whites do most of the mass shootings and post the Mother Jones stats. But Mother Jones says we have had under 200 mass shootings since 1982.
They intentionally want to make it seem like whites did those hundreds of mass shootings when it was almost all nigger on nigger gang violence.

>>939433964
Part 2
But they ignore per capita. Yes whites have done the most mass shootings, but it is less than their % of the population. Whites are under represented in mass shootings no matter how you slice it.

I struggle to stay calm when I debate these people because I know all their tricks and can see how they are lying.

>>939434627
Lost.

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pretty racist of you, though

>>939426686
What the fuck kind of demographic is "none of the above"?

>>939435243
>African Africans
for one

>>939435243
reptilians

>>939434910
you don't think the crime rate would be lower under a biden administration?? hmmm

>>939429925
You think we live in a civil society? Really?

>>939429502
probably all of them

>>939435458
bottom text

>>939425798 (OP)
Ok so
>you want us dead
>concerned about us killing eachother
Pick one. You are simply against republicans in power, stop the concerned faggot larp.

>>939425798 (OP)
man i hate fucking hicks

they make it embarrassign to be a white guy

>>939437542
You feel embarrassed because those dumb hicks debunked your propaganda?

>>939435781
The USA as a whole hasn't done great economically with the last few presidents either, except Obama

>>939427649
gun death does not discrimitate between self defence and murder.

>>939437815
The boost during Obama had more to do with increase in domestic oil production than anything.

>>939425798 (OP)
Silicon valley and microdosing
oh wait where again did a fucking bank collapsed ?

>>939425798 (OP)
like you know shit about statistic.

>>939425911
>and too many guns.
No such thing.

>>939427649
No one ask what Hawaii is doing right.

>>939440112
apparently there gang that steal spam in hawaii.

>>939440112

what they are doing right is they have the highest rate of fish eating and also the lowest of heart attack,

>>939425798 (OP)
more niggers more murders more whites voting to control it.

>>939426226
>>939427025
triggered both snowflakes, nice.