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Anonymous No.939458894 >>939458946 >>939458956 >>939458978 >>939459009 >>939459056 >>939459214 >>939459300 >>939459533 >>939459822 >>939459885 >>939459942 >>939460172 >>939460644 >>939460756 >>939461033 >>939461411 >>939461536 >>939461561 >>939461700 >>939461886 >>939463041 >>939463102 >>939464063 >>939464148 >>939464570 >>939470873
Its amazing how hard it is to get something this simple.
Anonymous No.939458946 >>939459001
>>939458894 (OP)
>why not both
or would you rather we be malnurished and weak for our overlords?
Anonymous No.939458956 >>939458993 >>939459187
>>939458894 (OP)
who cares. beef is tasty.
if you can't afford food, well, whose fault is that?
Anonymous No.939458978 >>939460153
>>939458894 (OP)
Fuck off Klaus. I vill not eat ze bugs.
Anonymous No.939458993 >>939459094 >>939459199
>>939458956
According to the UN, the United States
Anonymous No.939459001
>>939458946
>why not both
Because real men eat ONLY meat.
Anonymous No.939459009 >>939459189 >>939459237 >>939459544
>>939458894 (OP)
The nutritional profile of that 1kg of beef is 50x greater than that of the grain.
I would die if all I ate was the grain. Whereas if I consume the entire cow, organs and all, I'm far more likely to thrive.
Anonymous No.939459056 >>939459253 >>939460644 >>939461561 >>939462012
>>939458894 (OP)
Here's another one, OP.
Anonymous No.939459094
>>939458993
>According to the UN
Anonymous No.939459187 >>939459220 >>939459651 >>939461697
>>939458956
According to cannibals, humans taste like pork.
Anonymous No.939459189
>>939459009
Lengua tacos, man. It's the one reason I can never hate Mexicans.
Anonymous No.939459199
>>939458993
and the UN, and all the associated international agencies, is pretty much on the payroll of the CCP these days....
Anonymous No.939459214 >>939459307
>>939458894 (OP)
most commonly available grains do not provide all of the essential amino acids that humans need to survive, let alone thrive
in addition, growing and harvesting grain results in innumerable animal deaths and much animal suffering due to depriving them of water (which is instead used to irrigate or water grain fields), the application of pesticides, herbicides, and other chemicals to grain crops, and the animals who are literally crushed or otherwise killed by harvesters
veganism just shifts the killing of animals from direct slaughter to indirect slaughter
Anonymous No.939459220 >>939459577
>>939459187
They call it "long pork".
Anonymous No.939459237
>>939459009
>implying you digest 50x more nutrients
Protip: you don't. You just get cancer.
Anonymous No.939459253 >>939459820 >>939460063
>>939459056
And it would be more environmentally conscious for you to stop posting online, turn off all your electronics and go out and touch grass. But I guess neither of us will do things that are efficient but not enjoyable.
Anonymous No.939459284 >>939461725
Anonymous No.939459300 >>939460204
>>939458894 (OP)
You don't actually care about animals or the environment, you just enjoy feeling morally superior.
Anonymous No.939459307 >>939459342 >>939459848 >>939460153
>>939459214
>be me
>work for large organic agriculture firm
>tour a lot of farms
>wholesale slaughter
>they pay me to eliminate deer, rabbits, and feral pigs mostly
>even if you're organic vegan
>blood still touched your food
Anonymous No.939459342 >>939459400
>>939459307
proof?
larping hard it seems
Anonymous No.939459388 >>939459531 >>939459697
>stop eating meat so that niggers can keep breeding uncontrollably

No. I will continue to eat steak. Fuck off. Niggers can grow their own grain. Oh wait, no they can't because they are too fucking stupid, lol. Not my problem.
Anonymous No.939459400
>>939459342
Like what? I'm not going to post my company logo on /b/.
Anonymous No.939459531
>>939459388
Post belly
Anonymous No.939459533 >>939459859 >>939460629 >>939461450
>>939458894 (OP)
>A cow weighs 1kg
Ok, rajesh.
Anonymous No.939459544 >>939461536
>>939459009
https://www.health.harvard.edu/healthbeat/5-principles-of-a-healthy-diet

This is really THE most thorough and well-supporter research on the human diet, and you're just plain wrong. I could link a lot more research, but you can easily find it by digging through that website a bit, and I doubt you'll even look at the link in the first place.

In short:
"Abundant research shows it's important to eat enough protein, but there are many ways to get that protein, and some are more healthful than others. People who limit how much meat they eat tend to have lower risks for chronic diseases. Plant protein sources (beans, lentils, soy foods, nuts, seeds) and seafood offer the most health benefits. Getting enough protein, along with physical activity, is important for staying strong, healthy, and independent."
Anonymous No.939459577 >>939460424
>>939459220
I thought that was just the dick.
Anonymous No.939459651 >>939459956
>>939459187
I love pork, I eat it every day. Do you think Pajeets taste like spicy masala pork?
Anonymous No.939459697
>>939459388
Post belly and do vore IRL please
Anonymous No.939459820 >>939462342
>>939459253
There is no more grass because your reckless destruction of our environment makes it spontaneously combust on a regular basis. Even the fucking water is on fire... the WATER is ON FIRE! Wtf are we going to put that out with?
Anonymous No.939459822
>>939458894 (OP)
>1 KG of beef
>Feeds 2 people
Holy shit OP. You really are a fucking retard.
Anonymous No.939459848
>>939459307
sounds about right
it always gets me how almost all vegans are horrified by hunting, but hunting is one of the most humane ways to eat, assuming you're a good shot and ensure that the animal doesn't suffer unnecessarily, and you use all of the parts of the animal
a single large whitetail deer can provide dozens of pounds of meat, deerskin for clothes, shoes, or cordage, antlers for knife and utensil handles, etc.
even if you're not fond if organ meat, you can feed it to your dog, they love that shit
but most vegans are terribly ignorant about the world in general and how food actually gets to the table, whether that food is all plants or not
Anonymous No.939459859
>>939459533
Its the weight of the edible meat not the whole cow, retard
Anonymous No.939459885
>>939458894 (OP)
No shit 1 kilo of food feeds less than 20.

That also doesn't take into consideration nutrients and fuck you
Anonymous No.939459909 >>939470981
Anonymous No.939459942
>>939458894 (OP)
How many square feet to get 16kg grain?

How many square ft is cow

What is nutritional value of simple carbs

V

What is nutritional value of cow.

The leftist is an evil pedophile shill of the globalist pedophiles.
Anonymous No.939459956 >>939462217 >>939470981
>>939459651
If you cook it in spicy masala, then yes.
Anonymous No.939460060 >>939460204
Anonymous No.939460063 >>939460116
>>939459253
>on 4chan
>tells someone else to touch grass
Anonymous No.939460116 >>939460372
>>939460063
I'm aware of the hypocrisy. The point is we all do shit that's not the most efficient or effective or even good for us. But we will do what feels good. And eating a steak or burger feels good.
Anonymous No.939460153
>>939459307
So? It's an unwanted diet, not kryptonite. There are bugs in everyone's food, but you still freak out and go make posts like this: >>939458978
There is also rat droppings, and parts of rats and birds in everything. Human shit. You name it.
Anonymous No.939460172 >>939460502
>>939458894 (OP)
vegans usually either cease being vegan or die young of starvation or other diet related issues
Anonymous No.939460204
>>939460060
>>939459300
You don't actually care about genocide or the raped children, you just enjoy feeling morally superior.
Anonymous No.939460372 >>939460430
>>939460116
>But we will do what feels good
Well, if you're an empty robot who's a slave to your most basic instincts. That's why you get fat and lazy, because you go for the foods with the most fats, salts and sugars. It really doesn't have to taste like anything, because your core instincts says these things are rare and you have to eat as much of it as possible.

However, if you're a thinking being, who has free will, you can realize these instincts are not useful in a modern context, and you actually should do the most rational choice. Rather than living your life like a bacteria that only consumes and shits.
Anonymous No.939460424 >>939460626
>>939459577
Dick isn't really meaty, it's a sponge. It's more like a delicious blood pudding but you gotta tie it off and amputate while it's hard.
Anonymous No.939460430 >>939460569 >>939460875
>>939460372
>However, if you're a thinking being, who has free will
Anonymous No.939460502 >>939460796 >>939470981
>>939460172
Not true. If you had the truth on your side, why would you even need lie about that?
https://www.health.harvard.edu/healthbeat/5-principles-of-a-healthy-diet
Anonymous No.939460569
>>939460430
I like how the gluttony part is illustrated with the very not-vegan McDonald's.
Anonymous No.939460626
>>939460424
But telling your someone to suck your sponge doesn't really have the same ring to it.
Anonymous No.939460629 >>939460757 >>939461450
>>939459533
>A cow only contains 1 kg of edible meat
Wow, hindus are dumber than actual niggers...
Anonymous No.939460644 >>939461106
>>939458894 (OP)
>>939459056

You can raise cattle on marginal land you fucking retard, grain only grows on arable land. Additionally, cattle and other livestock eat shit that we don't, such as almond husks, corn husks, wheat chaff, etc. They don't even take much water because the water they drink just gets pissed out into the ground and immediately re-enters the water cycle and fertilizes the land.
Anonymous No.939460756 >>939460825
>>939458894 (OP)
so 1kg of beef feeds 2 people
and 1kg of grain feeds only 0,8 "people"
Anonymous No.939460757 >>939460893
>>939460629
They are saying it takes 16kg of grain for every kg of beef. A cow eats way more than 16kg of grain in it's life.

Not saying I support OP's argument, I simply understand it.

People need to understand the concept of the steelman argument. It is the opposite of the strawman. Instead of misrepresenting your opponents argument, try to understand it even better than they do so that you can understand the true weaknesses in their argument. That is what steelman is.
Anonymous No.939460796
>>939460502
only 1.5% of the U.S. population is vegan at any given time, and only 50% of people who try veganism are still vegan after 5 years
vegans who raise their children from infancy on a vegan diet often lose custody because their children are malnourished and miss developmental milestones
it's a very sick cult
Anonymous No.939460825
>>939460756
also cattle converts inedible plants into edible beef, tallow, milk and dairy and into leather and other products.
Anonymous No.939460875
>>939460430
This one is very interesting, because
#1. could also be White pride/Proud Boys
#2. should include all the billionaires like Musk, Trump, Bezos, Zuckerberg
#5. definitely not vegan
#6. is a right-wing shitposting webshite
Anonymous No.939460893 >>939460962 >>939461450
>>939460757
Steelman sounds like you've already made up your mind to disagree and are just looking for details that satisfy your cognitive biases while you pretend it is the use of logic.
Anonymous No.939460962 >>939461047 >>939461450
>>939460893
Not necessarily. If you seek to understand their arguments even better than they do you are searching for the truth.

And the truth is niggers aren't human and they don't deserve one cent of assistance.
Anonymous No.939461033 >>939461330
>>939458894 (OP)
You might note that what's feed to cattle is the lowest quality grain, stuff that's not useful for processing into human food and wouldn't be grown otherwise.
Anonymous No.939461047 >>939461134
>>939460962
>you are searching for the truth.
That would imply accepting the possibility before your search that you might be wrong and the other person right and being willing to admit that if necessary. This is nothing like what you do, just admit it.
Anonymous No.939461106 >>939463218
>>939460644
>You can
Doesn't mean that is what people do.

>cattle and other livestock eat shit that we don't, such as almond husks, corn husks, wheat chaff, etc.
Ok. So feed them that, don't breed so many of them, and don't kill them. Just have them hang out and chew on stuff we don't eat. No problem.

>They don't even take much water because the water they drink just gets pissed out into the ground and immediately re-enters the water cycle and fertilizes the land.
And heavily pollutes the groundwater with all kinds of shit. The meat industry is one of the heaviest polluters.

On a side note, I doubt those 5 cows are the backbone of the meat industry. 293.2 million cattle were slaughtered in 2020. We breed to maintain a population of a billion cattle worldwide. Most of them are fed antibiotics, which "trains" bacteria to be resistant. Not to mention the huge amounts of sewer this creates, which, as you said, is often just let out into the ground soil or water.
Anonymous No.939461134 >>939461477
>>939461047
>Attempting to strawman what steelman is

Hilarious, you can't even make this shit up. Fuck off.
Anonymous No.939461330 >>939461395 >>939461438 >>939461551 >>939463104 >>939463381 >>939463601
>>939461033
It uses the most acres of arable land of any food product. Globally it uses 75% of all agricultural land. All of that has to be watered, tilled, plowed, transported, etc.
We could actually let most fields just grow over, or if we absolutely must, build something useful there. I think we should let the shitty soil just be retaken by nature, and use the most fertile lands for human food rather than propping up this extremely destructive meat industry.
Anonymous No.939461395
>>939461330
Look dude, if you hate humans this much, just kys. Set the example. No one gives a shit about your retarded mystical view of biology
Anonymous No.939461411 >>939461578
>>939458894 (OP)
Eat deez nuts, you fucking vegan homo.
Anonymous No.939461438 >>939461560 >>939461578 >>939461670
>>939461330
And the commie reveals his true form.

You realize it would require authoritarian overreaching and a police state to control what people do with their land like this, right?

Commies always result in famine because you have a bunch of fucking elitist retards who have never worked on a farm for 1 hour telling farmers how to do their jobs and what to do with their land. And they thought they were working towards utopia every time.
Anonymous No.939461450
>>939459533
>>939460629
>>939460893
>>939460962
>shitposting spambots
Anonymous No.939461477
>>939461134
Yeah I knew I was right. I "steelmanned" you lol.
Anonymous No.939461536 >>939461628
>>939458894 (OP)
Animals eat what I cannot digest easily, and converts it into forms I can. I then eat the cow and get those nutrients.
>>939459544
So your argument is that current diets get too much protein, and to cut the steaks smaller and make the meat last longer?
Anonymous No.939461551 >>939461670 >>939461675
>>939461330
Anonymous No.939461560
>>939461438
No. They result in "famine" because they choose to kill off a bunch of people on purpose for economic reasons.
Anonymous No.939461561 >>939461810 >>939462172
>>939458894 (OP)
>>939459056
The underlying concept is trophic levels. Actual farming is more complicated than just energy efficiency so I don't think veganism is a very environmentally friendly practice, but the less meat you eat the better.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trophic_level
Anonymous No.939461578
>>939461411
>>939461438
>lost the argument
Anonymous No.939461628 >>939461689 >>939462360
>>939461536
>your argument
This is Harvard research. If you have any questions about it, go to the website and read.
Anonymous No.939461670 >>939461780 >>939462044
>>939461438
>>939461551
He said something land being "retaken by nature". That's completely against any communist ideology I've ever heard of. The communist countries of the 20th century were far worse ecologically than their western rivals.
Anonymous No.939461675
>>939461551
When you don't have the facts to back up your side, you resort to shitposting. It's sad, really.
Anonymous No.939461689 >>939462026
>>939461628
>go to the website and read.
You do know this is 4chan, right?
Anonymous No.939461697
>>939459187
A lot of humans are fatter than pigs. If you roast them you have to keep draining the fat into a jar or something like that lady in Australia did.

Anyways what is a ghost migrant?
Anonymous No.939461700 >>939461759 >>939462081
>>939458894 (OP)
Cows eat grass
Anonymous No.939461725 >>939461775
>>939459284
Well that's revolting. What the fuck do you put into the prompt to get something this horrible?
Anonymous No.939461759 >>939461957 >>939462081
>>939461700
Not anymore, not most of them anyway. You probably think the farmer wakes up when his alarm clock the rooster tells him to and he goes and feeds the chickens by hand from a bucket.
Anonymous No.939461771 >>939461794 >>939462101
Open that mouth whiteboi. Got some food for you right here
Anonymous No.939461775
>>939461725
> asking for a friend
Anonymous No.939461780
>>939461670
>The communist countries of the 20th century were far worse ecologically than their western rivals.
indeed
Anonymous No.939461794
>>939461771
> loses debate
> resorts to nigger dicks
Anonymous No.939461810 >>939461913
>>939461561
>Level 1: Plants and algae make their own food and are called producers.
>Level 2: Herbivores eat plants and are called primary consumers.
>Level 3: Carnivores that eat herbivores are called secondary consumers.
>Level 4: Carnivores that eat other carnivores are called tertiary consumers.
Why would it be better to go through all layers rather than stopping at level 2? How would that be worse or even as bad as adding one or more layers? We already know 75% of agricultural land is used to create feed for slaughter animals.
Anonymous No.939461822 >>939461875
What's stopping you from eating Andy's log?
Anonymous No.939461837
>>>/tv/214330637
Anonymous No.939461875
>>939461822
It's all been taken to compost into fertilizer to grow the grain that feeds the cows.
Anonymous No.939461886 >>939461929 >>939462145 >>939462333
>>939458894 (OP)
Grain has l3d us down a hrroible path of jaw shrinkage while our teeth cluster and and get worse.
Grain has made us fat and weak.
Anonymous No.939461913
>>939461810
>We already know 75% of agricultural land is used to create feed for slaughter animals.
this is misleading because it counts all of the natural pasture that's used to graze animals instead of just arable land that's used for grain crops to feed livestock
only about 13% of the world's grain supply is used as animal feed
Anonymous No.939461929 >>939462160 >>939462202
>>939461886
Grain made it so that people don't starve to death. Stop being such a retard.
Anonymous No.939461957 >>939462084
>>939461759
Cows it the parts of the crops I can't eat
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Anonymous No.939462012
>>939459056
They want to put Muslims in the farmland
Anonymous No.939462026
>>939461689
The land of the opinionated and ignorant. Yes, I've heard of it.
Anonymous No.939462044 >>939462070 >>939462132
>>939461670
>Forcing farmers to give up their land and give it back to nature isn't commie
You are taking property from people and saying you know how to use it better. You get to decide what everyone does with their land order to reach your vision of utopia. It is 100% commie. Fuck you, faggot.
Anonymous No.939462070
>>939462044
Idk maybe soylent green is yummy and we don't need farmers. I'm not a chud though tee hee
Anonymous No.939462081 >>939462216
>>939461700
>>939461759
Most of them it soy, actually. Which is funny, considering all the conservatives who are so afraid of the "feminizing soy". They don't know they consume the most female hormones out of everyone.
Anonymous No.939462084 >>939462406
>>939461957
I don't think you know anything about agriculture, or spelling.
Anonymous No.939462101
>>939461771
No, thank you. I don't eat meat.
Anonymous No.939462132 >>939462276
>>939462044
>You
How fucking retarded does someone have to be to think the post you're replying to was made by a communist supporter?
Anonymous No.939462145 >>939462187 >>939462284
>>939461886
Natural selection has almost entirely stopped with humans. Jaws aren't going to change shape unless there is some selection advantage. Nobody is starving or surviving because their jaw wasn't optimal for eating meat or grain.

Sexual selection is pretty much the only form of selection still experienced by humans. I would argue what jaw shape looks the best is what will shape jaws moving forwards over the next thousands of years.
Anonymous No.939462160 >>939462258 >>939462355
>>939461929
Retard alert. While it has made it possible for us to advance, it has also harmed us and made us weak.
You can stop being an ignorant fag anytime.
Anonymous No.939462172
>>939461561
Here's a useful image and quote from the very website you cited:

"An energy pyramid illustrates how much energy is needed as it flows upward to support the next trophic level. Only about 10% of the energy transferred between each trophic level is converted to biomass."
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Anonymous No.939462187 >>939462327 >>939462367
>>939462145
>Natural selection has almost entirely stopped with humans.
No. Natural selection never stops. The environment is just different.
Anonymous No.939462193 >>939462305
Retarded bootlickers will never follow this cause "kill = good"
Anonymous No.939462202
>>939461929
>Grain made it so that people don't starve to death.
not really
the advent of agriculture permitted the development of the first civilizations, mostly around rivers like the Nile, the Tigris and Euphrates, and the Yellow River in China
it didn't really prevent bouts of mass starvation, because the larger, denser population centers that arose because of agriculture were susceptible to crop failures due to drought, pests, or warfare
if you have a population of 20,000 in an ancient city dependent on agriculture, they can't all just disperse into the countryside and return to hunting and gathering
Anonymous No.939462216
>>939462081
I love telling people this. It ends a lot of threads dead in their tracks. Just stop using that fucking speech to text app that keeps spelling "eat" as "it".
Anonymous No.939462217
>>939459956
Nah man they're saturated in spices giving the meat a nice flavor.
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Anonymous No.939462258 >>939462308
>>939462160
You are a moron. Without the excess calories provided by the domestication of grains, we wouldn't have civilization at all, nor would useless people without talent or ability be able to make a living cleaning up shit or doing repetitive grunt work. In the past, they just got kicked out of the tribe and starved to death in the wilderness.
Anonymous No.939462276 >>939462396 >>939462582
>>939462132
Proposing the government take control of all land and deciding how it is used, forcing farmers to give up land because some elitist faggot who has never farmed thinks he knows best is textbook commie bullshit.
Anonymous No.939462284 >>939462407
>>939462145
Wrong. Jaws and chins are getting smaller. Teeth are crowding and pushing eachother out because of this. Men in general are getting weaker due to their diets and overall sedentary lifestyle.
It compounds over centuries. Natural selection is working just as it should.
Anonymous No.939462305
>>939462193
>mindlessly follows the globohomo narrative
>calls others "bootlickers"
Anonymous No.939462308 >>939462440 >>939462463
>>939462258
YOU are the moron. We were never meant to consume mass grain. It is only going to get worse.
Anonymous No.939462327
>>939462187
Yes. The main thing affecting who contributes to the gene pool now has been the invention of video games and anime. Once the genes of those people who are immersed in that shit are weeded out it will be something else.
Anonymous No.939462333
>>939461886
No. That's cooked food.
Anonymous No.939462342
>>939459820
Put it out with colder water you fucking retard
Anonymous No.939462355
>>939462160
>although you're right, it makes me angry
great argument
Anonymous No.939462360 >>939462827
>>939461628
According to the research you're presenting, it's reasonable to simply reduce red meat and balance with other meats if necessary.
You seem to specifically be trying tonuse this research to claim people should switch to non-meat sources as a primary source, which isn't supported as a necessity by your own evidence, and the OP is a reductionist take on agricultural scaling, not diet.
Conflating shit is the core of shitty arguments. kys
Anonymous No.939462367 >>939462500
>>939462187
Read the rest of my comment, you fucking retard. I said sexual selection is the primary mode of selection these days. Yes, there is still selection, there always is. The ability to chew meat or grain better isn't deciding if someone lives or dies like it might have 100,000 years ago when they might only have meat or grain to eat.
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Anonymous No.939462396 >>939462437
>>939462276
Yes. And the governments who did this were historically the most anti-environmental ones. I can't put this any simple than that, so have a nice day I guess.
Anonymous No.939462406
>>939462084
>No argument
Cows has the teeth and stomach to chew and digest things humans can't
Farms aren't feeding cows rice, wheat and potatoes because that's too expensive to feed cows instead they hit the farms that plant and harvest wheat, rice, potatoes and other stuff and they pay for the byproduct of harvesting that shit they would otherwise throw out
Anonymous No.939462407
>>939462284
When did I saw jaws were getting bigger? Nice strawman.
Anonymous No.939462437 >>939462481
>>939462396
>My version of communism would work
Every fucking time
Anonymous No.939462440
>>939462308
Yeah, because those African tribes that never developed agriculture are doing so well. Oh wait theyre all in mud huts dying of starvation and AIDS.
Anonymous No.939462463
>>939462308
>Never meant
So what? It doesn't change the fact that civilization wouldn't exist without domestication of grains, nor that death by starvation is much less prevalent because of it.
We weren't made to live outside of sub-tropical Africa, either
Anonymous No.939462481 >>939462549
>>939462437
This will be at least the second, possibly third time: I AM NOT A COMMUNIST. You have to be pretending to be this stuupid.
Anonymous No.939462497
One is food for slaves, the other is food for humans.
Anonymous No.939462500 >>939462571
>>939462367
You're an idiot. Natural selection isn't some mystical process with goals or direction-- it's just a description of how organisms survive and reproduce in an environment.
Anonymous No.939462549 >>939462626
>>939462481
>Not a commie
>I just propose taking control of other people's property and deciding what they can do with it on a massive national scale that would transform the whole society

So you are just a retard who doesn't even understand what communism is. Got it.
Anonymous No.939462571 >>939462702
>>939462500
Where did I say it has a goal. Quote me. All you can do is strawman.
Anonymous No.939462582 >>939462769
>>939462276
>take control of all land and deciding how it is used, forcing farmers to give up land because some elitist faggot who has never farmed thinks he knows best
Family farms are almost entirely a thing of the past now and neo-liberal capitalism did it more completely than any communists could dream of.
Anonymous No.939462626 >>939463104
>>939462549
>I just propose taking control of other people's property and deciding what they can do with it on
Point out the post where I said this.
Anonymous No.939462629 >>939462800 >>939462918
Anonymous No.939462702 >>939462799
>>939462571
It's implicit in your argument. Think it through.
Anonymous No.939462769 >>939462888
>>939462582
I agree. Unrestricted capitalism is almost as bad as communism.

Communism is when Jews take control of your government and use it to control the economy.
Capitalism is when Jews take over your economy and use it to control your government.

If only there was another option.

Maybe one that in only 15 years took a small nation in crippling economic depression to a scientific and industrial powerhouse that was a leader in almost every aspect of science, industry, and technology.
Anonymous No.939462770
beef tastes better and did whites suddenly run out of food?
Anonymous No.939462799 >>939462837 >>939462908
>>939462702
>Can't quote it because I never said it
Thanks for admitting you are just pulling shit out of your asshole.
Anonymous No.939462800 >>939462948 >>939463041
>>939462629
source?
Anonymous No.939462827 >>939462889 >>939463523
>>939462360
If you actually read the Harvard research, it's recommended to cut out red meats completely as they are carcinogenic and cause a lot of chronic health issues. Fish and poultry are really the only meats they say are fine. Although they are not required as long as you get enough proteins from healthy sources (i.e. legumes).

If you want to know more about this study, it's the largest study on the human diet ever. It's been running for 70 years or something, last time I checked, and it has almost 300 000 participants. Walter C. Willett, who ran the study, probably has a lot of online talks about it. He has published over 2000 research papers and reviews, so you have more than enough to read, if you care. Walter Willett is very clear about red meats being very harmful.

https://hsph.harvard.edu/profile/walter-c-willett/
https://hsph.harvard.edu/news/planetary-health-diet-associated-with-lower-risk-of-premature-death-lower-environmental-impact/
Anonymous No.939462837
>>939462799
>So retarded he doesn't know what "implicit" means.
Anonymous No.939462888
>>939462769
>If only there was another option.
Get rid of government AND economy? That'll happen within our lifetimes, those of us who's lifetimes don't end suddenly in the process.
Anonymous No.939462889
>>939462827
red meat tastes the best.

Checkmate faggot
Anonymous No.939462908
>>939462799
What else should he be pulling out of it?
Anonymous No.939462918
>>939462629
>what are excrements
A cow requires a lot more than 16kg of grain to produce 16kg of beef. Cows shit a lot. They don't use 100% of the grain they eat. Most of everything they eat is just turned to shit.
Anonymous No.939462948 >>939462990 >>939463056 >>939463090
>>939462800

javascript:quote('939458894');
Anonymous No.939462990
>>939462948
so no source? got it
Anonymous No.939463041
>>939462800

Source: OP image + math
>>939458894 (OP)
Anonymous No.939463056 >>939463090
>>939462948
The shitposting bot malfunctioned. Lol.
Anonymous No.939463090
>>939462948
>>939463056
I win by default, the best kind of win.
Anonymous No.939463102
>>939458894 (OP)
There is not enough land capable of growing vegitables.
The reason why we eat beef, pork, and chicken so much is because we are able to farm the food that they eat much easier and is far larger quantities.
In addition the scraps from produce go to feed animals.
We literally can no support the amount of people in the world on just vegetables and fruits alone. There is not enough farmable land for it.
Anonymous No.939463104 >>939463252 >>939463451
>>939462626
Having the majority of farmland return to nature.
>>939461330

So you just are imagining a childish fairytale world where all the farmers just magically agree with you and do it voluntarily. So you are just a child proposing pie in the sky nonsense, got it.
Anonymous No.939463218
>>939461106

>Doesn't mean that is what people do.

Yes, it literally is you fucking retard. It's way cheaper to use marginal land for livestock. Arable land is MUCH more profitable when it's actively farmed. You know absolutely nothing about this you urban-dwelling neoliberal faggot.
Anonymous No.939463252 >>939463381
>>939463104
Someone else said something about the poorest farmland returning to nature, no one said anything about "the majority of farmland". I just pointed out, this isn't even what the communist countries did with their power. Apply a breathalyzer to your computer so it doesn't allow you to post when drinking.
Anonymous No.939463381 >>939463601
>>939463252
>, no one said anything about "the majority of farmland"

>>939461330
>We could actually let most fields just grow over
>Most fields

>no one said anything about the majority
>Most fields

So you are just a gaslighting asshole who thinks people are too dumb to remember what you wrote a few minutes ago.
Anonymous No.939463451
>>939463104
>implying farmers are retarded
If you give them the incentive, they will do it. The problem is that farmers are fucked over and forced into providing a lot for very little profit, compared to what they produce. Food stores often sell products for over 15000% of what they paid the farmers. What the stores also buy decides what the farmers produce. A farmer isn't going to grow something the stores don't buy.

Because of these factors, the farmers are forced to produce as much as possible of whatever the stores are requesting. This destroys the environment, and hurts everyone. It hurts the farmers, the consumers, the animals, and the local population being polluted by the local meat manufacturers.

What you eat decides what the stores buy in, which affects what the farmers make. And, of course, legislation can leverage things in favor of a pivot. The farmers will provide what sells. They don't just produce shit that doesn't sell, just because they have strong opinions. You got to give them a way out as well. A way to transition. This last one is the hardest for the large meat factory "farms", that aren't really farms, because they're just meat factories. It's hard to transition a death camp into something not death-campy.
Anonymous No.939463495 >>939463623
I'm getting bored of winning debates against you meatheads, *yawn*
Anonymous No.939463523 >>939463887
>>939462827
>cows are sacred and not good for you at all
>other meat is healthy and perfectly fine, but stop eating it anyway because plants are healthierer
What is the methodoly used to determine beef causes cancer more often than other meats, controlling for all possible outside influence? Maybe it's the charcoal causing it and creating numbers, people do love their summer BBQs. There are certainly far healthier ways to prepare beef than a charcoal fire.
Also, if other meats are fine as long as you're getting all your nutrition in your diet, why do you seem to not be okay with even that? Why say it's recommended and healthy then argue against it in favor of plant based as a primary source? Pick a lane.
Anonymous No.939463601 >>939464404
>>939463381
Did I make the two of you fight?
I'm >>939461330
My comment was in reply to the guy I replied to. I meant the shitty fields he mentioned that are not suitable for human food. I should've said "most unnecessary fields". I see that was unclear.
You can go back to fighting now. I don't want to be a part of it, really. Just thought this might clear it up a bit.
Anonymous No.939463623 >>939463711
>>939463495
>loses
>declares victory
nigger
Anonymous No.939463711
>>939463623
Harsh desc of yourself son.
Anonymous No.939463887 >>939466687
>>939463523
Look up research by Walter C. Willet in some medical journals. He has over 2000 research papers and reviews. Willet isn't Indian, so idk why you think he says cows are sacred. You can try to fight me all you want, but it's really the most solid research ever done on the human diet ever carried out that you're having an issue with. I'm just going to refer you to Walter C. Willet, and it's very easy to dig into it from there.

Understanding that you're probably a bit mentally impaired, I'll give you some help:
https://hsph.harvard.edu/?s=meat+cancer
https://www.health.harvard.edu/search?content%5Bquery%5D=meat+cancer

The studies are referenced on each article, so you can use your medical skills (which are great, I'm sure) to assess the validity of the research methods.
Anonymous No.939464063
>>939458894 (OP)
1kg feeds 2, so 16kg feeds 32.

Their own propaganda sags that an equal weight of beef feeds more people than grain.
Anonymous No.939464088 >>939465513
>Be vegan
>Be annoying retard
Anonymous No.939464148
>>939458894 (OP)
We get it but meat is also an important part of our diet. The solution is to eat less meat, not get rid of it entirely.
Anonymous No.939464404 >>939464496
>>939463601
>I jumped in the middle of a debate between two people and said one of them never said something, when they actually did say literally that
>I have no idea what the fuck I am talking about
>But you are still wrong!
Anonymous No.939464496
>>939464404
Anonymous No.939464570
>>939458894 (OP)
eat algae instead, you piece of shit
Anonymous No.939465513
>>939464088
>be meat sucker
>have to barge into threads and seethe at people who don't share your murderous indifference
Anonymous No.939466687
>>939463887
Please simply state your claim in clarity. If you're not making a thesis driven argument using specific references, you're literally just pedalling literature for the sake of it.
Anonymous No.939466959 >>939467399
Don't do wrong.
If you do wrong you are wrong.
Anonymous No.939467399
>>939466959
Is eating meat wrong?
Anonymous No.939470873
>>939458894 (OP)
someone doesn't math.
1 kg is 2.2 lbs. 2.2lbs would feed 3 people. the meat from one steer weighs 399 kilograms. so I steer would feed 1197 people.

16kg would feed about 35 people.
Anonymous No.939470981
>>939459909
>>939459956
>>939460502