Thread 939813482

>42,000+ deaths in fiery auto crashes last year
>100,000+ sustain serious life altering injuries last year.
>Billions in property damage annually.

>Just over 900 cyclists died in these United States last year.

"Anon why arent you wearing your magic styrofoam hat whlst cycling?"

This is not an "eat ze bugs" "live in ze pod" "stay tethered to your 15 minute zone" argument. Eat whatever the fuck you want, buy a mansion and drive all the fuck over the place. IDGAF what your vehicle runs on either be it diesel, unleaded, batteries, thorium or motherfucking french fry grease. I'm not that guy and this is not that thread.

How to stop the bloodbath on our nations roads?

>>939813482 (OP)
>Just over 900 cyclists died in these United States last year.
Every year, around half that number are killed by their own (single-party) mistakes or by crashing into ohter cyclists. This "over 900" number also doesn't take into account where the cyclist was in the wrong when a car was involved. The number of cyclists killed by drivers where the driver was purely at fault is extremely low.

Bicycles need to be banned now. At the very least they need to be regulated and licensed and taxed for using public roadways.

>>939814229
Google AI says no:

"The percentage of cyclist fatalities where a driver is at fault varies by location and the year of the study, but generally, drivers are at fault in a majority of these fatal crashes. Studies and reports from various jurisdictions indicate figures ranging from a low of 49% (Minnesota) to 56% (Arizona) in some years, but also much higher numbers, such as 70% for specific age groups in the UK, and ~83.5% in an older study in Hawaii. Factors like infrastructure and driver attention significantly impact these statistics"

>>939814229
>At the very least they need to be regulated and licensed and taxed for using public roadways.
Cyclists do not cause wear and tear on roadways. Most cyclists have jobs and cars and already pay for taxes and car insurance.

>>939813482 (OP)
This what you're afraid of? This sounds like an "eat the bugs, get in the pod" type of argument.

Plebbit claims cyclists at fault for fatalities just 7.8% but then again their plebbitors. So..

https://www.reddit.com/r/torontobiking/comments/1eo3jql/cyclists_were_at_fault_for_only_78_of_all_the/

>>939813482 (OP)
Dont care faggot. America was built by and for the automobile. Go to France if you want to ride a gay little bike

>>939814376
The automotive death cult has arrived.

>>939814411
Just one more lane. Right bro?

>>939814285
>Google AI
Stopped reading right there. Gemini tells me 1 pint=1 quart. Gemini is not to be used for anything.

>>939814319
Neither do passenger cars and trucks. All vehicles do the same amount of damage until you hit 20,000 lb.

>>939814439
Every source that is not 100% perfect is invalid. Got it.

>>939814319
>already pay for taxes and car insurance
Expect for when they're not and don't have cyclist insurance. This needs to end.
I figured no less from you lefties wanting more death.

>>939814463
>Neither do passenger cars and trucks.
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>>939814508
>you lefties wanting more death.
Ok car cultist.

>>939814438
Is that a sail foam stuck to the windshield in 1988?

>>939813482 (OP)
>How to stop the bloodbath on our nations roads?

>>939814508
>you lefties wanting more death.

Something doesnt add up here.

>>939814471
Is gemini right even 1% of the time? I haven't seen one correct answer from it yet. Ask it about suckers and loser and it only uses lefty propaganda sources and says the statement is correct.

>>939814539
IDK but those are definitely 80s cars. Buick Opel. That boxy 1980s Toyota Celica Supra.

>>939814621
>why dont americans use public transportation?
Thats not what I asked. What I specifically said was "how do we fix this."

Learn to read better.

Even left leaning NPR confirms part of this.

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2011/05/20/136462246/when-bikes-and-cars-collide-whos-more-likely-to-be-at-fault

>>939814656
Get a better job, you’re trying to drag people down

Same with this source. Its the drivers fault most of the time, not the cyclist.

https://floridacyclinglaw.com/blog/car-bike-accident-fault

>>939814724
How do we fix this? How do we make driving safer?

>>939813482 (OP)
Remove women's right to drive.

Force retesting every five years regardless of age.

New testing would include extensive highway testing and advanced defensive driving training.

Force all cellphones to become in operative once moving faster than 5mph.

Problem solved.

Thats really all I'm asking here. No need to get your driving panties in a wad.

Dont you want to reach your destination alive?

>>939814792
I am now on a mission to find this book in mobi format.

>>939814802
>Force all cellphones to become in operative once moving faster than 5mph.
Passenger cellphones? Seems a bit draconian.

All cellphones? What if I'm using mine as a dashcam? What if I have to call a family member in an emergency?

>>939814879
Is important to have goals in life.

>>939814880
ALL OF THEM!

>>939814880
Phone can become operational once placed in the glove box. All operations to be carried out by the car, hands free, with anything relevant being projected on some form of HUD or display in direct eyeline with the windshield.

Dash cam functionality will just become an eventual forced standard with all vehicles.

Passengers can suck a dick and play an original Gameboy.

>>939815225
Woohoo driver gets dome! As a driver myself, I could get with that.

>>939814229
The only bad cyclist crash I ever witnessed the cyclist was tucked and blowing through a stop sign at like 45 mph from going down a steep hill and t-boned a car. 100% the cyclist's.fsult and for taken away unconscious on an ambulance.

In my experience cyclists ignore stop signs all the time.

>>939815844
>In my experience cyclists ignore stop signs all the time.
I do that all the time too after I slow down a bit and make sure nothing is coming from the other direction. Its not like I'm piloting a 4,000 pound light armored vehicle. Its a bicycle and I can literally stop on a dime and give you 8 cents in change.

Also you drivers break traffic laws more often and I can bury you in links that back up my claim.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/carltonreid/2019/05/10/cyclists-break-far-fewer-road-rules-than-motorists-finds-new-video-study/

>>939813482 (OP)
That's because fewer people are riding bikes than driving cars, dipshit. This is the same logic as someone who intentionally gets bitten by a black widow because black widow bites only kill a small handful of people every year.

>>939816010
Thats a lovely strawman. I never said otherwise. All I'm asking here is how to make driving safer.

The dipshit is you. Enjoy your vehicular death cult.

It doesnt matter who is at fault. Its people in cars making the situation dangerous for everyone on the road including cyclists, pedestrians, small animals and pets, road signs, store fronts. Living rooms. Office spaces.

You little 4 wheelers (cars) are the real menace to society as there is no more dangerous form of transportation to be found anywhere.

Except for base jumpers but thats really not a form of commuting and fuck those idiots. They're asking for it.

>>939816200
I will admit that I didn't read the last two paragraphs of the OP. I was just reacting to the first few paragraphs where it looked like you were trying to justify not wearing a bike helmet.

>>939816404
>you were trying to justify not wearing a bike helmet.
I absolutely never wore a bicycle helmet and will not change. I also do not drive as it is too dangerous IMHO.

Dont care what you think. Dont care about any disingenuous personal attacks. Its whatever.

Not gonna the styrofoam hat.

If you're careful you wont need that styrofoam hat. Most cycling injuries happen to people who are 29 and younger. I'm old AF, over 50 and just not going to wear one. Never did. Dont care what you say.

>>939816200
What's with the autistic hate for cyclists and bikers?

>>939816702
Why are you asking me? Fuct if I know but I keep seeing fatties sperg out about "all cyclists." But they never say "all car drivers" or "all motorcyclists."

Weird, right?

>>939813482 (OP)
UK here. I passed a cyclist this evening travelling down a road with no streetlights. He was dressed in full black and had no light whatsoever. These idiots deserve to be run over.

>>939817198
Anecdotal evidence. But where is the hate for dangerous car drivers? Why the hate boner for "these idiots" when you saw one or maybe a few cyclists behaving badly?

Why "all cyclists" when I know for a fact that plenty of them are fairly polite and just trying to get where they're going?

Why the bloodbath among you 4 wheeled tank drivers and how to fix that? Why are you dodging that question?

People in cars cause 18x the fatalities and you're here getting madbro at one cyclist. Make it make sense.

>>939817334
>People in cars cause 18x
Should say "People in cars ARE 18x" not cause.

If you go on the internet and say you hate all cyclists I'm just going to assume that you're a great big fat person.

As tragic as some of these cases are, it's worth it to keep cars legal.