Thread 939993536

Jimmy Kimmel wasn't censored, he was fired by ABC. He can still go stand on a street corner and spread misinformation.

>>939993536 (OP)
Sort of like how right wingers cried when they were "censored" over covid, or George Floyd or any number of other examples of freedom of speech being taken as being owed a platform?
I don't understand how this level of irony is possible.

>>939993536 (OP)
we'll see how you feel when you get fired for saying something against the regime.

>>939993536 (OP)
Same with Charlie Kirk, he can still debate with people while burning in hell. Probably start a pretty successful podcast down there

>>939993536 (OP)
He’s not fired you stupid buffoon.

>>939993682
dilate

>>939993536 (OP)
>he was fired by ABC.
Well that's wrong, but what can you expect with MAGA?

>>939994480
>I just have this image saved ironically mom

>>939993620
Why would I say something against the regime? They're kicking out illegals, arresting criminals, and shit-canning liars.

>>939993536 (OP)
He was fired for saying fuck all nothing via Trump's bullying FCC.

I never imagined I'd be living in a dictatorship during my lifetime. But I also never imagined so many people letting a dictatorship tighten its group through willful ignorance.

>>939997220
You think they're going to stop there. You think none of this is going to impact you. You think that despite the lesson that history tells you about regimes that shut down dissent, crack down on minorities and employ a police state, this is going to end well.
Good luck!

>>939993620
Isnt that what the leftards have been doing for years?

>>939998881
So this is how democracy dies...

with the enforcement of basic immigration laws.

>>939998881
They fucking better not stop there. I want see them institutionalize troons, bar all non-US born people from holding ANY public office, cease all funding to foreign entities, and make expression of commie sympathy a capital offense such that it is actually legal to shoot a commie in the head providing there are at least 10 corroborating witnesses.

>>939993536 (OP)
i'm not trying to defend him, he's a dumbass and should know better. but i'm not sure how you could say his show was censored when it's been off the air for a year now.

except ABC was extorted by the federal government. I couldn't care less if he was fired by ABC, but if the gov't pressured the decision then yes it is censorship.

>>940000327
Try not killing people to silence them then celebrating it on social media

Thanks

The networks have been wanting to get rid of the late night dickheads and their bloated salaries for years, and they just found an opportunity. No one actually watches late night shows anymore, that is why they have to plaster whatever was said on late night shows all over social media the next day. Boomers quit watching late night shows when David Letterman and Jay Leno retired and no one has given a fuck about them since. They are going to way of the variety shows of the 60s and 70s.

>>940000499
>The networks have been wanting to get rid of the late night dickheads and their bloated salaries for years, and they just found an opportunity.
Yep. Corporate only cares about current day politics. Thats why theyre pretending to care about right wingers now, when they used to turn all their logos into fag flags for the left.

>>939993682
Kirk is with the Lord
he can say, along with Paul in 2 Timothy
>I have fought the good fight; I have finished the race; I have kept the faith. From now on there is reserved for me the crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous judge, will give me on that day, and not only to me but also to all who have longed for his appearing.
amen

>>940000666
>From there Elisha went up to Bethel. As he was walking along the road, some boys came out of the town and jeered at him. “Get out of here, baldy!” they said. “Get out of here, baldy!” He turned around, looked at them and called down a curse on them in the name of the Lord. Then two bears came out of the woods and mauled forty-two of the boys.
>II Kings 2:23-24
God will bearfuck the skulls of my enemies.

>>939993604
it's the same irony as right wingers parroting "freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom of consequences"
>while failing to understand the irony of CK's death being a consequence
>they're basically saying CK's death was deserved
lmao

Well except for the part where the only reason ABC took him off the air was because the head of the FCC threatened to take away ABC’s broadcasting license because all the widdle right wingers feelwings got hwurt :(

That’s literally the definition of censorship. Government action taking someone away from their platform due to opinion speech that is disliked by the government.

You’re such pussies on the right. You are the kings of being able to dish it out but not take it.

Charlie Kirk called for a “hero” to free the man that attempted to murder Nancy Pelosi and nearly beat her husband to death. Imagine if Kimmel had done that about Kirk’s shooter? You’d lose your fucking minds. But you don’t give a shit that at Kirk did it. You’re cowards and hypocrites, always will be, and you know it.

>>940000770
based YHWH

>>940000893
>the only reason ABC took him off the air was because the head of the FCC threatened to take away ABC’s broadcasting license
nope
ABC took him off the air because his show was no longer economically viable after Nexstar and Sinclair (two private companies) opted to no longer broadcast the show at their stations
when you lose 2/3 of your audience overnight, advertisers will no longer fund your show
>because all the widdle right wingers feelwings got hwurt :(
Kimmel knowingly spread false information on his show as political propaganda
>That’s literally the definition of censorship.
nope, that's ABC protecting their bottom line
Kimmel is still free to stream on Twitch and lie to his audience of NPCs as much as he wants
>Government action taking someone away from their platform due to opinion speech that is disliked by the government.
link to the FCC order to ABC that stated that their broadcast license would be pulled if they kept Kimmel on
you can't, because it never happened
>Charlie Kirk called for a “hero” to free the man that attempted to murder Nancy Pelosi and nearly beat her husband to death
Nancy wasn't even there, and DePape wasn't charged with attempted murder or conspiracy to commit murder
Paul Pelosi was injured, but not nearly beaten to death; that's an exaggeration
in addition, Kirk was joking (unlike Kimmel, who was simply spreading misinformation), as DePape was never up for bail
congratulations, you've managed to be wrong in nearly every detail

Political satire is one of the oldest and most important forms of free speech.

It challenges those in power while using humor to draw more people in to the discussion.

Equating this type of political speech with doctored deepfakes or illegal content is a serious mistake.

2) From Internet memes to late-night comedians, from cartoons to the plays and poems as old as organized government itself - Political Satire circumvents traditional gatekeepers & helps hold those in power accountable.

Not surprising that it’s long been targeted for censorship.

3) This isn’t a close call or a slippery slope.

Shutting down this type of political speech - especially at the urging of those targeted or threatened by its message - would represent a serious threat to our freedoms and ability to hold those in power accountable.

4) Political operatives like @brhodes aren’t pro censorship b/c people are confused or misled by political speech, satire, or supercuts.

Established gatekeepers are working hard to maintain control over political narratives in light of the democratizing power of online speech.

5) "Anyone who had not seen the debate could have been easily misled into thinking the other candidates stood there in stunned silence for nearly half a minute" while crickets took to the stage to chirp in unison.

Oy, I have to disagree on this one.

8:11 PM · Feb 20, 2020

https://twitter.com/BrendanCarrFCC/status/1230691428327723010

>>939993604
In hindsight, they were right about both.

>>939994480
The image screams "Goliath online."

>>939993536 (OP)
You can stand in front of a meat grinder and stick your cock in trump shit

>>939994480
Jesus Christ imagine walking into a room and your son has MSPaint on his screen and this is what he is drawing

>>940005790
i know, i was just saying that it's pretty funny that the same people who cry about censorship when someone says that the earth isn't flat are the same people who are praising jimmy kimmel for saying the same thing

>>939998971
>>939999316
you think that's all that's going to happen. you think none of this is going to affect you personally.
good. luck.

>>940001685
“And why is he still in jail? Why has he not been bailed out? By the way, if some amazing patriot out there in San Francisco or the Bay Area wants to be a midterm hero, someone should go and bail this guy out… Bail him out and then go ask him some questions.” That's what Charlie Kirk said.

DePape was charged with state level attempted murder, assault with a deadly weapon, and elder abuse. These were dismissed during the trial. He was convicted of other charges.

Nancy Pelosi was asked about Paul's recovery over a year later. She said "He's making progress. He's about 80% there, physically. Traumatically, it's terrible."

>>939993604
Well left wing people don't believe in free speech so there's not much sympathy to be had for Jimmy Kimmel even if it is wrong

>>940010819
he was fired by abc but he still has a contract with disney. that's why he can't say the word 'fuck' on the show.

>>939994480
I'm curious about the sign on the dilation station. Are there at least 71 other dilation stations? Are they all in one big dilationplex or is it a network of dilation stations spread across the country in each strip mall? It seems up to 9999 dilation stations can be built until they have to update the sign with a fifth digit, but presumably the dilation company has not achieved that level of penetration yet.

What happens if you press the buttons on the joysticks? Does this set the machine into overdrive, as the trannies bellows in a deep, guttural Boston accent "OH YEAH I CAN FEEL IT I'M A REAL WOMAN NOW"

>>939993536 (OP)
You are completely and utterly wrong. He was fired for saying the C-word on the air.


He was fired from Jimmy Kimmel Live. He is now on a Disney show that isnt even his own.


He was fired for calling a child a anon

>>939993536 (OP)
Truth.

/thread.

>>939993604
It's not the same at all. In the government's pressuring of Facebook, there were 12 people using bots to make millions of posts. Facebook has long had a policy against this, but they weren't enforcing it. The government asked Facebook to enforce their own policy. These people weren't silenced, they just had to use fewer accounts.

>>939993536 (OP)
FAFO and get some of that cancel culture you created lmfao

>>940013348
abc was fined for not disclosing that he was paid to appear on the show, he was not fired for the content of his show

>>939993536 (OP)
He was fired by ABC, but he's still Jimmy Kimmel on Jimmy Kimmel Live.

And even if he wasn't, the point stands.

People who make these claims aren't being consistent

>>939993536 (OP)
he was fired because he was caught in a lie. he was caught pretending to be a doctor for a fake charity

>>939998266
Why am I almost certain that the only people claiming we live in a dictatorship are American born privileged fuck heads who have never stepped foot in an actual oppressive country? Are any immigrants from Cuba or North Korea saying this? Anyone from China? Syria? Libya? Gaza??? Ever lived in any of those places? Do you know what an actual Nazi is? Jesus lol

>>939993536 (OP)
But he was spreading the TRUTH! He didn't say anything about that piece of shirt, Kirk.

>>940005790
I would just be glad that he's not a leftoid pussy tbh

>>939993536 (OP)
he was fired because the FCC leveraged the threat of state punishment against Disney. Trump's own FCC chairman admitted it.

So much for free speech.

>>940014738
Same, I’d much rather see this than an unironic trans flag in my kids room.

>>940014832
Very funny but the idea of our kids being groomed by transvestites or lgbt activists is a very real fear.

>>940014848
Damn. What an imagination. You must feel threatened all the time.

>>940014638
I had a somewhat distant relative from Nazi Germany but he died around ten years ago. He was disappointed in me for studying Spanish, a language commonly spoken in my state, instead of German, which was not taught at my high school. He was hoping I would defect from the US to "go back" to Germany (I've never been to Europe) and bring back Naziism and a fourth Reich.

He had wanted to divorce his wife for many years, who had helped him come to the US, but she said that if he did she would reveal his real name. He went by Horst, and Hans before that when he had been captured by Russians, but neither of those were his real name and no one else knew it. They took his true name to the grave.

>>940014832
A leftoid trying to joke about someone feeling victimized is not something I thought I'd see today.

But then it seems that you guys have been hilariously hypocritical as of late

>>940014999
Feeling like a victim, are ya?

Nice imagination.

>>940015044
Not really lol

>>940015085
That's the great thing about being a conservative these days. Through the power of imagination, you can pretend you're whatever you want to (or don't want to) be.

>>939993604
Yeah kind like how that culminated in forced inoculation with experimental drugs.
Was very cool being a part of tuskeegee 2020

Cry more faggot bitch

>>940015157
Kind of like how liberals pretend to be women even when they’re men? Imagination is so powerful.

>>939998971
my favorite thing is when lefties learn how it’s basically impossible to immigrate to canada or any other western country

noooooo you can’t just have closed borders nooooooo

never thought i’d see the left be the pawn of elites who hire scab labor illegally which lowers all of our wages and takes jobs off the table. do they know that if somebody who doesn’t belong here isn’t doing it for 5$ then the business will have to involved american fair wages somehow? maybe the price goes up, maybe the company dies, but it’s all better than the current situation of welfare queens coming in

every notice how every immigrant is a real american but every white person is on land stolen 400 years ago? leftism runs completely on vibes and slogans, no substance

thought i must admit - the main topic of the thread had made me ponder if the right is any better. if kimmel is fired due to low ratings under the smoke screen of blaming trump i get it. if trump influenced the decision directly no free speech fan should like that.

>>940000666
Satanic trips of blasphemy.

>>940015361
take your meds.

>>940015157
The left and the right are exactly the same. Both use the same mental gymnastics to rationalise their own beliefs. Both try to play the victim when it's convenient for them to do so.

Everything you're saying that the right does, the same can easily be said for the left. Literally the same side of the coin.

>>940000878
>liberals

>>940011581
jfc you are so fucking retarded. since you don't belöieve anything I say anyways, how about you do some actual research and read up on what Trump prohibits and says about news stations while being president. please kill yourself if you are too retarded to even do that

>>939993536 (OP)
Good, ABC finally fired him for doing blackface

>>940015601
Imagination land is booming today.

>>940016696
I hope you are just trolling for fun. If not, you might genuinely be retarded

>>940016915
>both sides
the inane cry of the moronic imbecile who neither understands reality nor has any possible solutions to his own made up problems

niggas like you are MEANINGLESS

>>940016956
Nice imagination

>>939993536 (OP)
he was fired because he was planning to go nuclear on the wednesday airing. he claimed he was going to address the situation, but then when ABC execs saw what he meant by "address", they were freaked out

>>939998945
No.

>>940004994
this

>>940017291
>biting satire right in front of the harkonnen pederast?!?

>>940000878
difference being murder is a little more illegal than taking a show off the air

>>940000327
he wasn't arrested, so his freedom of speech wasn't violated, per this comic I'm sure you quoted countless times during the past decade. hope that helps

>>940016199
He did the blackface thing for The Man Show, retard.

>>940018883
>he wasn't arrested, so his freedom of speech wasn't violated
VERY dumb russian detected

>>940018937
see >>940018904
its the comic you've been plastering everywhere for the past 10 years

>>940018904
Yeah, but the head of the FCC shouldn't be personally threatening networks for his personal feelings.

That's censorship. Probably will go to court for that.

>>940018988
Not that anon, dumb russian faggot

>>940018900
that's not blackface in any case
he's just portraying Utah's favorite child rapist who wasn't mormon
>curse of ham

>>940018995
nope, he wasn't arrested so he wasn't censored. per your own definition.

>>940016199
The funny part is if he had been fired for doing black face the same people celebrating and clapping like seals would be the ones calling for the Disney boycotts

>>940019009
my god you're fucking retarded

>>940018995
Doubtful. ABC was able to get rid of a profit drain. Kimmel wasn't making them any money, and he propaganda shtick is no longer useful in today's political climate.
Also, their parent company is trying to buy another company and needs FCC approval. Suing would be cutting off their nose to spite their face. If they win, what happens? They get to bring back a money loser that puts them at odds with half the country and risk fucking up a multi-billion dollar deal.
At 1.1 million viewers for the entire month of August, he's not worth it. There are tik-tok influencers with a bigger audience.

>>940019011
Much like Adam Corolla, you suck at comedy. Forcing that joke in with a crowbar.

>>940019031
Not that anon, nazi faggot. My definition of censorship is the government preventing someone from exercising free speech.

Do you disagree with that?

Patel's feet cheese
Patel's feet cheese
Patel's feet cheese are so sweet
Patel's feet cheese
Patel's feet cheese

>>939993536 (OP)
Or get a stupid podcast like everyone else

>>940019132
Kimmel's show never ran in the red. NO RECENT LATE NIGHT TV SHOW HAS LOST MONEY IN DECADES.

You lie. Hope you die.

>>940019031
>he wasn't arrested so he wasn't censored.
You don't have to be arrested to be censored. The FCC threatening adverse reactions to punish or suppress speech is censorship.

>>940019277
I do not doubt at all that you want me dead for disagreeing with you, you evil fuck.

>>940018995
But the FCC has an obligation to fight misinformation. And that's what they did. Biden laid the ground work on this one.

So why is Trump going around claiming he got Kimmel fired?

>>940019132
August is the slowest tv month of the year. 1.8 million will get a broadcast show in the top 10.

You lied, by the way. Kimmel's share for August was 1.7 million. That's an average over four days a week. That's over 6 million views.

Like most nazis, you suck at math...english, history, and every other subject that isn't a WW2 doc on the history channel.

>>940019372
I most certainly do. Your propaganda costs american lives. I hope you die thousands of deaths in hell, as well.

Patel's feet cheese
smells like
trump cheese

>>940019423
>"We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it"
What was the misinformation? MAGA gang desperately tried to characterize him as anything other than them, and tried scoring political points off of it. I'm pretty sure the part that upset carr more was kimmel pointing out that trump seemed to care more about a ballroom than kirk.

Which would you like to get a handjob from?

>>940019461
Liar
https://ustvdb.com/networks/abc/shows/jimmy-kimmel-live/
Like most of you evil leftists, you lie and then demonize people who disagree with you. And you're so used to being protected by the websites you frequent, you're stunned when called out or when someone presents facts to prove you're lying.

>>940019504
You mean like the propaganda of Kimmel lying about the political affiliation of the murder?
You're an evil piece of shit. You want to murder people and make up excuses to justify it. You should be locked in a cage to protect the population, psychopath.

>>940019692
Your mom. She always puts in a lot of effort.

>>940019423
>But the FCC has an obligation to fight misinformation.
Not misinformation. Just reporting the news with the best information he had at hand.

Literally entertainment news. The same shit Fox News uses to get out of slander cases.

Quit trying to act like you are thinking. You are simply lying.

>>940019740
What lie? Dude had five years pf far-right twitter posts, followed Nick Fuentes, and was a regular republican donor.

Where is the lie?

You should be in a cage for protecting violent right wingers.

>>940019795
Nope. He was lying and knew he was, as the information about the murderer had already been revealed.

>>940019849
Please link these "five years of far right posts" and proof that he followed who you say he follow.

>>940019860
Prove it.

>>940019860
Weren't all the laws against lying repealed by right-wingers?

>>940019932
>Further propaganda
you suck at this

>>940019932
Clearly not, since they're still on the books.

>>940020007
Mind pointing them out for me?

>>940020050
Just as soon as you post links to the "five years of far right posts" from the murderer.

>>940019878
You and I both know his social media posts were scrubbed. We can only go by secondhand accounts.

>>940019878
I think they’re in a Google Drive that has the proof that Obama was born in Kenya and that the 2020 election was stolen

>>940019976
>you suck at this
You suck at lying.

>>940020170
>I don't have any proof. Trust me bro!
Yeah, so it's bullshit. Figures.

>>940020183
>I don't have any proof. Trust me bro!

>rightoids pretending to care about 'misinformation'
kek

>>940020212
Well, why else do you think Patel scrubbed is social media posts?

If he was democratic, Patel would've released that shit in two seconds.

>>939993536 (OP)
>Jimmy Kimmel wasn't censored, he was fired by ABC. He can still go stand on a street corner and spread misinformation.
Truth

>>940020251
ikr

>>940019860
>He was lying and knew he was
He was describing the MAGA crowds reaction to the murder, and looking for political points, not the murderer.

>>940020265
FCC chair can't openly threaten tv networks. That crooked nazi has to go.

>>940020251
>Liar feigns outrage to distract from being unable to backup his bullshit

>>940020291
He deliberate lied and said the murderer was MAGA. It is against FCC rules to lie about a crime in order to deceive the public, and that is what he did.

>>940020301
He didn't. He said that they were in violation of FCC rules, and they were.

>>940020341
>He deliberate lied and said the murderer was MAGA
That's false. Shall I run back the quote?
"We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it"

>>940020301
Tough shit.

>>940020231
The carrion call of the 2020 Republican

>>940020261
Please point out all the times democrat officials "released the information in two seconds"
You're just making bullshit excuses for the fact that you can't back up your lies.

>>940020357
>as anything other than one of them
Are you retarded? You quote what he said an prove my point.

>>940020341
So why didn’t the FCC put pressure on NBC to cancel The Apprentice in the early 2010s when Trump was saying Obama wasn’t born in America?

>>940020370
>NO U!
congratulations on having the argument of a toddler.

>>940020401
You missed a part, king.
>MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize

>>940020291
This guy is actually one of the few sane people in this thread. Kimmel was talking about right wing reaction (and their desperate hope that the shooter wasn't MAGA), not that the shooter was MAGA. Anyone listening to the actual quote objectively would come to this conclusion. Right wing is looking for a reason to justify their corrupt government putting their hand on the scale. Well...it won't always be your guy in charge. As long as you're ok with FCC chairs lording over TV stations' content I don't want to hear any complaints when someone else is in charge.

>>940020444
So what? The part "other than their own" clearly is saying that the murderer is MAGA, which is a lie. Are you really this fucking dumb?

>>940020415
I learned it from you…that’s okay now, right? To use the tactics of the other side when it best suits you to “show them how it feels”?

>>940020460
No, it's not. It's what you want it to mean. If he said the "MAGA crowd was desperately attempting to characterize the sky as anything but green", would that be him saying that the sky is actually green?

>>940020501
Yes, that's the implicit logic. How fucking dumb are you? You fucking zoomers can parrot the shit out of things other people come up with, but are completely unable to think or do even basic logic.

>>940020552
>Yes, that's the implicit logic.
implicit? I thought you were saying he was explicitly lying and spreading misinformation.

>>940020552
fyi - the other dude is right. and you're the actual an idiot. You're hearing what you *want* to hear to justify some corrupt shit. It wouldn't even be an issue if the President weren't some thin-skinned loser.

>>940020566
Do you not know what implicit means? Look it up. Also, please link to where I said "explicit"

>>940020617
It means to imply something. He explicitly stated that MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize as anything other than one of them and tried to score political points. That is a fact.

>>940020607
So, what I get here is that, initially, you guys were claiming that Kimmel was right, that he was MAGA with "five years of far right posts." When called out on that, you were unable to provide any evidence of this, not even a news article saying it, then went off saying that Kimmel "never actually said it". You changed your story and moved the goalposts, and now are just namecalling.

>>940020661
Right. It's implied and the logic of what he's saying is inescapable.
Are you just stupid in addition to being a liar?

>>940020728
There was no implication in it other than MAGA are opportunistic retards, and you're proving the point.

>>940020755
>Story changes again, goalposts move even further, more namecalling

>>940020773
It's not changing. You're changing from >>940020341
>He deliberate lied and said the murderer was MAGA
He didn't, but now it's an implication.

>>940020813
>You can't lie by implication!
You're dumb as shit.

>>939993536 (OP)
Fuck of, Ivan.

So the president and fcc threaten to sue ABC and its not a 1st ammendment of the US constitution issue?

>>940020878
>said the murderer was maga
now
>implied the murderer was maga
Also still not what he said, what he said was MAGA was desperately trying to claim it wasn't one of them, over the weekend, and tried to get political points for it

>>940020907
>Same retarded playbook for 10 years.
>You're a roooooski agent!

>>940020936
Please explain the distinction you have in your head. I want to hear this one.

>>940010819
>all this will affect you too!
Well, I'm not foreign born, I'm not a troon, I'm not a commie, I don't live in a country subsidized by the US...
Do you fuckwits bother thinking before you speak? Or is it all just preprogrammed kneejerk regurgitation of platitudes for you?

>>940020969
I don't know how else to explain it to you.
> MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them
100% true. They did before charlie was even pronounced dead.
>and doing everything they can to score political points from it
Also 100% true.

>>940020907
That's not what happened. Disinformation is not protected as a political view.

>>940021039
It's a lie. The murderer was not "one of them"
The mental gymnastics you're going through to try to deny this clear logical implication would be funny if it wasn't so desperately sad.

Test

>>940020676
My brother in christ...even if he WERE asserting it it's a fair descriptor because he was raised MAGA. Whether he believes it now or not or he did what he did in the name of MAGA or whatever. Calling him MAGA is fine. He DIDN'T but using MAGA as a descriptor for someone raised MAGA would be fine. Again He DIDN'T, but he's not even mischaracterizing. So go ahead and accuse us of intellectual cowardice. We all know his firing wasn't right. We all know he's not saying anything untruthful. You're the one justifying corrupt government action.

>>940021039
>trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them
And turns out they were right and that Kimmel was spreading disinformation.

>>940021081
>It's a lie
It's not a lie. The MAGA gang was desperately trying to characterize the shooter as anything other than one of them. They did so before charlie was pronounced dead, they did so before the murderer was known.

>>940015863
Kek

>>940021112
>And turns out they were right
So you admit that they did do it and that kimmel didn't lie?

>>940021102
So what "how he was raised".
Do you know a single person whose views are exactly the same as their parents?
You're just trying to obfuscate

>>940021081
The murderer was a white male though maybe that’s what he meant

>>940015206
based

It's no matter of so called left or right, it's rather whether one has a spine to withstand and distrust authority.

>>940021157
That's a different guy than me, who've you been talking to. And no, Kimmel did lie.

>>940021229
>He meant something other than what he said.

>>940021190
>Do you know a single person whose views are exactly the same as their parents?
This nigga’s never been to rural america

>>940016441
Yes, free speech, but mis- and disinformation can be dangerous.

>>940021237
You just admitted that they did do it, so it wouldn't be a lie.

>>940021255
What did he say that negated the possibility of that?

>>940021257
>No I don't actually know anyone whose views are exactly the same as their parents, but the people that I hate are like that, for sure! Trust me bro!

>>940021157
They said the shooter wasn't MAGA. Kimmel knew the shooter wasn't MAGA. Kimmel spread disinformation. Pretty clear cut and simple case.

>>940021190
You're the one that's so sure on the meaning of what Kimmel meant. I'm saying he DIDN'T say that, but even if he did there's a boulevard of ambiguity to push plausibility through. I'm saying that even if he did it's fucking meaningless. It's not the gotcha you think it is.

>>940021284
>The MAGA gang was desperately trying to characterize the shooter as anything other than one of them.
Maybe he was implying they're all martians?

>>940021303
>They said the shooter wasn't MAGA
So it wasn't a lie. Thank you for having the courage to admit it.

>>940021266
No, that was a different person you were talking to.
You do realize that there is more than one person on the internet besides you, right?

>>940021260
Actually that's why politics is a danger to society. Because it is built on lies and fraud. Both menacing human relations.

>>940021296
Nigga I live in rural America are you saying I hate myself and everyone around me? I’m not a Republican.

>>940021343
Sorry I misread it, but I responded to you directly on a different post that you seemed to have skipped.

>>940021322
There is no logical way to say something different was implied. You're just coming up with bullshit to deny the inescapable logic.
Anyways, I'm done here. Everything to be said has been said, and you're just going to keep lying and indulging in mental gymnastics.

>>940021327
Well Martians could be MAGA since MAGA is dumb enough to vote and support things against their interest

>>940021303
Weren’t they trying to say for the longest time the shooter was trans?

>>940021385
>There is no logical way to say something different was implied.
NTA, but I mean if you read the whole statement, the logical implication was that MAGA did the exact thing he claimed they did.

>>940021385
>he explicitly said it
>it was heavily implied
Well which is it

>>940021385
"mental gymnastics" ....ok

>>940021448
if I said you were desperately trying to characterize yourself as being anything other than a rapist, how would you interpret that?

>>940021498
Well if I followed rapists on social media, came from a rapist family, dressed as a rapist for Halloween…

>>939993682
Suggestions for CK's name of his podcast in Hell

Prove I'm in Hell
Fire I bid you to burn
Satin by my side
To Hell and never got back
Why is my ass filled with Trannies

any others

>>940021498
That you're losing an argument.

>>940021418
Exactly. And that's what Kimmel was saying, "Anything but one of their own." like, "If we can make them trans then they can't be linked to US!" Kimmel wasn't asserting anything about the shooter, but was commenting on the concern from right wing media that the shooter might have been MAGA or right wing or watch Fox News. So desperate to paint him as "other".

>>940021418
Relevance to case? This argument is about how Kimmel was spreading disinformation, not what you read some rando say on X.

>>940021556
lmao - gave me a good laugh.

>>940021604
Yeah, that’s how I took his comment to mean. It’s weird to me that Trump celebrated Colbert getting cancelled and said “Kimmel will be next” and shortly after Kimmel gets cancelled for dubious reasons and the “freedom of speech” crowd from 2020-2021 don’t find that the least bit concerning.

>>939993536 (OP)
Quick question. Do you think that if poor people are able to vote, they will inevitably vote for socialism and wealth redistribution?

>>940021646
Are you trying to say that MAGA wasn't trying to claim the shooter was anyone other than them?

>>939993536 (OP)
nobody was watching this faggot, they were looking for any excuse to cancel his shitty show.

>>940021646
>This argument is about how Kimmel was spreading disinformation
>not how others on my team were spreading disinformation

>>940021704
Then I guess they could’ve just said “we’re cancelling this show due to low ratings” rather than lighting a firestorm of controversy.

>>940021418
they were saying he likely had some connection to trans people, which is obviously true
he has a trans gf, and has trans friends

>>939993536 (OP)
"Thou shalt not kill...."

>>940020301
>muh nazis
it's not 1943

>>940021704
Yeah, all it took was the FCC threatening to pull licenses for wrongspeak

>>940021702
>accuse the other side of that of which you are guilty
are you saying that liberals weren't pushing the false idea that the shooter was a conservative? Kimmel wouldn't have had to say the right was "desperately" trying to say the shooter wasn't one of them if there weren't and endless stream of baseless accusations.

It's like you say "you're a rapist!" and I say "no I'm not!" then you say "curious, that's what a lying rapist would say. Desperately trying to convince me he isn't a rapist!"

You are why the propaganda works.

>>940020341
Murderer was maga. WTF are you on about?

>>940021788
No I think they were heavily implying the shooter himself was trans which is wrong and anyone who said it their network should get their FCC license pulled unless the person who said it performs seppuku live on air then donate all their money to Charlie Kirk

>>940021831
>Kimmel wouldn't have had to say the right was "desperately" trying to say the shooter wasn't one of them
He wouldn't have had to, if they weren't doing it.

>>940021688
Good to know there are still some sane voices on here.

>>939993536 (OP)
Trump is going after any broadcasting service that isn't a pro-maga propaganda machine. I can't wait for the 6-3 supreme Court decision that states that free speech actually doesn't exist despite the 9-0 decision stating it did last year.

>>940020359
Hopefully it will be tough shit for that unamerican piece of shit in the FCC.

>>939993536 (OP)
trump already said “Kimmel is next..” like 3 fucking months ago after Colbert got cancelled. Tough shit. The Colbert Report is coming back. And your fucked.

>>940021704
I think this is the best explanation, he was already losing them money, and they didn't want to go to bat defending him and just decided use the public backlash as an opportunity to cut their loses

>>940021831
>the right was "desperately" trying to say the shooter wasn't one of them
Nigga the right were so desperately trying to pin the blame on a tranny up until the guy was caught. You had countless threads on here saying a random tranny did it

>>940021874
>He wouldn't have had to
he didn't have to, you are lying. You baselessly accuse, then cite the denial as a confession. It is beyond absurd and not how anything works, except your propaganda.

>>940011581
Jimmy Kimmel is a talentless hack that has yet to be funny in his entire career as a comedian and that's why people don't really care if he got fired.
Still doesn't stop the faceless hypocrisy from the right who cried freeze peach for Rosanne Barr.

>>940021926
Yeah I know when the Chevy chase show got cancelled the network didn’t just cancel it they made up a reason to pretend that’s why it was cancelled since that’s easier

>>940021874
accusing someone of "desperately" doing something has a particular connotation to it, who are you trying to fool?

>>940021961
He did, because they were doing that.

>>940019692
Why are his limbs colored like that?

>>940021988
They desperately try to do it all the time. I remember the minnesota killings, and people desperately claiming he wasn't a pro-life conservative. That tim walz wanted him to just take out a bunch of pro-life democrats in multiple states.

>>940021883
I want them to take away free speech. Then they can try to take away our right to peacefully assemble. After that it can finally establish a National religion and take control of every aspect of life. No more /b. No more freedom of conscience. Every other word out of everyone’s mouth will be praise god.

Only then will it discover how gay MAGA is.

>>940022001
you are clearly being dishonest and trolling. Denying an accusation and then smugly snarking "oh ho methinks thou doth protest too much..." is asinine. Denying guilt is not a confession. Good day, sir, and happy trollings.

>>940021926
They already acknowledged they had no problem with anything he said. It’s about the merger.

>>940022064
>you are clearly being dishonest and trolling.
I'm being 100% honest here. Looking at kimmel's statement, and hearing it, it was pointing out that MAGA was desperately trying to blame anyone else and score political points off ck's death.

>>940022036
pro-choice*** democrats

>>940022111
He wasn’t criticizing Kirk. He was criticizing MAGA.

>>940022111
>I'm being 100% honest here.
Curious, you are desperate to convince me of your honesty, as though you were a liar.

>>940022144
Exactly, and trump for caring more about a ballroom, and the chairman of the FCC took personal offense to that.

>>940022171
I was personally being accused of being a liar, while pointing out facts.

>>940022111
>MAGA was desperately trying to blame anyone else
even your rewording here reads as "the shooter was a MAGA, they're guilty, and they're trying to shift the blame that they should be just admitting to"
when in fact he wasn't MAGA, and that's a lie

>>940022212
This desperation to score points by adamantly denying that you're a liar is pretty weird, no? I mean, I'm not calling you a liar explicitly, I'm just saying that you are doing and saying the things a liar would do and say, while insisting you aren't a liar and it's simply curious is all. Do you see where I'm coming from?

>>940022283
>even your rewording here reads as
Then you have some mental issues not allowing you to read text without being upset or change what it says.

>>940022283
You’re splitting hairs and arguing semantics and it’s hilarious please keep going anon

>>940022337
I mean I get where you're going, but I would say that calling a shooter a tranny before charlie wasn't even done leaking blood from the neck, with no evidence, is desperately trying to point fingers.

>>940022380
was asserting that the shooter was a conservative before they had any evidence desperate finger pointing?

>>939993536 (OP)
ABC fired him for a stunt gone wrong. He was told to not do it but he did it anyways.

You're just proving that people on 4chan are dumb as fuck and know nothing about media.

>>940022445
Sure. Now did he say that leftists weren't doing that?

>>940022177
Look. Not to sound hyperbolic. But the next thing they’ll try and come for is our right to peacefully assemble. After that, they’ll establish a National religion. Which history has proven is bloody, horrific, and often involved beheadings. So we’ll have to do the best we can to keep the protest peaceful. I’m down to go to jail. IDGAF. I served this country and I’ve had a good life. If that’s what it takes to show the poor people on the right and left what monster the wealthy class have finally become.

MF get some

>>940022452
>the network wanted to stifle his freedom of speech and he told them to kick rocks
>this is now bad according to the same people who threw a bitch fit when Trump got booted off Twitter for inciting J6 which literally got someone killed

>>940022341
>being upset
this has nothing to do with emotion, it's just interpreting the words as said
words have meanings, people phrase things to imply an intended meaning
maybe you just aren't a native English speaker and don't understand what is being said, and are trying to interpret it in the most literal and charitable sense, instead of what was actually intended by the words
you understand these monologues aren't just off the top of the head right? they have writers, and the host works with them, to script what they're going to say, it's phrased in a specific way, ahead of taping the show

>>940022481
>Sure
I respect your consistency.

>Now did he say that leftists weren't doing that?
no, he lied by omission, selectively directing his criticisms one way to deliberately create a false narrative and implicitly validate the leftist finger pointing. That's propaganda, my dude.

>>940022374
>You’re splitting hairs and arguing semantics
and? the hair-splitting is important and valid, how is it not applicable or appropriate to do so?
why was it ok to do that for years when the left was cancelling people for off-color things they said, but now it's not allowed for some reason?

>>940022644
>are trying to interpret it in the most literal and charitable sense,
No, I'm fairly positive MAGA is misinterpreting what he said based on social media that seems to cut out most of what he said and pin it as he was calling the shooter MAGA. Whereas what he said was MAGA was desperately claiming he wasn't MAGA and trying to score political points off of it.

>>940022703
>no, he lied by omission
LMFAO. So we've gone from he directly lied, to he implied a lie, to he lied by omission. What's next, he lied by thought?

>>939993536 (OP)
The FCC threatened ABC to make them do it.
That's Federal censorship of the media.

>>939993536 (OP)
Kimmel is a media prostitute with no dignity, not even comparable to a mercenary, this individual becomes famous with The Man Show then turns feminist in a couple of salaries.

>>940022725
>I'm fairly positive MAGA is misinterpreting what he said
you would be wrong, there's no misinterpretation, everyone knows what he said and what he intended
>seems to cut out most of what he said
the reverse is true, every time someone on the left talks about it, they paraphrase and reinterpret his words, instead of quoting him verbatim, because you can see how badly it was worded when you read his own words, in-context
>what he said was MAGA was desperately claiming he wasn't MAGA
correct, he suggested the shooter was MAGA, which is a lie

>>940022759
>So we've gone from he directly lied
yes, his characterization of the right as desperate was a direct lie.
>he implied a lie
yes, that the shooter was a conservative
>to he lied by omission
yes, by only talking about one side's reaction to deliberately mislead his viewers.

He can be guilty of all those lies. He is a genuine artist, among the masters of his craft.

>>940022644
>>940022948

>"We hit some new lows over the weekend," Kimmel said, "with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it."
This word-for-word he said. Show me the factual evidence that is proven in court that kirk killer wasn't MAGA? Candace Owns seems to think he wasn't liberal, and all the evidence that claims he was has been recanted or is from admitted questionable sources.

>>940022904
He’s gonna bring back The Man Show with Guillermo surrounded by a bunch of big booty latinas.

>>940022948
>everyone knows what he said
apparently MAGA does not. They're wrapping themselves up more than a pretzel to try to defend authoritarian overreach.

>>940022967
>yes, his characterization of the right
His characterization of MAGAs actions was accurate.
>yes, that the shooter was a conservative
He didn't say that, or even imply it. He was talking about MAGAs actions.
>yes, by only talking about one side's reaction
Because he was talking about MAGAs actions.
>He can be guilty of all those lies.
Maybe if he said something other than what he said, but he didn't.

>>939993536 (OP)
Or he could become president and spread disinformation. Seems to be the trend this year.

>>940023109
The only mistake he made was not announcing he’s running for office right before he said it.

>>940022980
>Show me the factual evidence that is proven in court that kirk killer wasn't MAGA?
so you haven't looked at any of the evidence then? because it overwhelming shows he wasn't MAGA, he was a radicalized antifa leftists, with a trans gf, and trans friends

>>940023173
I have looked there isn't any that shows he was liberal. There's more evidence he was a groyper than anything. This remind me when you guys that JFK jr was alive and going to be donnie VP

>>940023102
>Because he was talking about MAGAs actions
that's not what people are taking issue with, stop trying to reframe the discussion about something no one is arguing

>>940023225
>I have looked there isn't any that shows he was liberal.
so you haven't looked
>There's more evidence he was a groyper than anything.
there is exactly zero evidence of this, just people trying to push this fake narrative to gaslight everyone into believing it

>>940023231
>that's not what people are taking issue with
It is what they're taking issue with. They're seeming to ignore the part where it is explicitly stating that's what MAGA is doing and jumping to the part where they think it means he was MAGA, which wouldn't make sense with the words after it.

>>940023102
>His characterization of MAGAs actions was accurate.
as "desperate"? You are a liar. Why are you so desperate to convince me you are not a liar? That's what a liar would do. This characterization must therefore be accurate.
>Because he was talking about MAGAs actions.
that's what I said. That's the lie by omission, deliberately creating a false and advantageous narrative by leaving out relevant information. You have agreed the left was doing the same, but Kimmel neglected to mention that. Curious! Of what might that have convinced uninformed viewers?

You are defending deceitful propaganda.

>>940023231
That’s the only thing to take issue with. Anything else is straw man. Sorry I’m butting in. Carry on.

>>940022980
If that's all he said, he's not even directly saying the killer was MAGA. Just that the right is doing everything they can to say he isn't.
And given how much misinformation is flying around on this topic, it's understandable for people to have differing opinions on the shooter's motivations.
It's not like Kimmel is running a news show. At most he's an opinion pundit, but even that is a stretch.
For the federal government to get involved and force Kimmel's show to be canceled because he had an opinion the ruling party didn't like is fascism, plain and simple.

>>940023340
They take issue because they seem to not understand that he's talking about what MAGA is doing.

>>940023297
>It is what they're taking issue with.
no it isn't, no one's talking about the "actions of MAGA", that's not at all what this is about, you're trying to frame the discussion in a way that lets you win the argument, but making it about something different than it is

>>940023340
>That’s the only thing to take issue with
no it isn't, the issue is Kimmel saying he was MAGA, not what MAGA was doing

>>940023365
>For the federal government to get involved and force Kimmel's show to be canceled because he had an opinion the ruling party didn't like is fascism, plain and simple.
except that didn't happen
but you know what actually is fascism? murdering a political activist because you disagreed with them

>>940023336
>as "desperate"
Almost every time there's news of killings they do it. Walmart stabbing in michigan, you had MAGA desperately claiming it was an illegal, or a muslim or a tranny. Turns out it was a mentally ill straight white guy.
>That's the lie by omission
That's not something that gets you threatened by the FCC. Sharyl Atkinson does it all the time.

>>940023380
>no one's talking about the "actions of MAGA"
That's what Jimmy Kimmel was talking about.

>>940023489
>That's what Jimmy Kimmel was talking about.
among other things, he was incorrectly lumping the shooter together with MAGA, a very important distinction, which is what people are actually taking issue with

>>940023565
>he was incorrectly lumping the shooter together with MAGA
No, he wasn't. He was talking about MAGA trying to pin it on anyone but them.

>>940023416
>he was MAGA, not what MAGA was doing
I’m sorry I hate to go off topic here but does no one see an issue with the fact there seems to be a whole ass political party built around an actual person and not an idea or beliefs?

>>940023416
Im not sure if you’re retarded but I’m butting now. You cannot draw a valid implication about the shooter by what he said. Only that the administration was doing everything they could to distance themselves from him.

That very much implies that he is a liberal. YOU are implying that the shooter is MAGA. Because you’re trying to do the same.

The administration equally wants to distance themselves from him no matter what he is. Liberal or MAGA.

You fucking faggot.

>>940023456

Part of my worry about the right is that they cannot recognize fascism when their team does it. Worse I think that recognized fascism by the right will be applauded by the right. Calling out fascism will be demonized. In fact I see quite often very recently an outcry *against* people rightfully identifying fascistic behavior. Quite worrisome...to me at least. Probably not to the right as much.

>>940023467
>Almost every time there's news of killings they do it.
does the left not? Every time there's violence, they foam at the mouth desperately trying to convince the public it's right wing terrorism. Yet, Kimmel makes it seem like it's a one-sided issue. CURIOUS! Who might benefit from such a convenient omission of information?

>Sharyl Atkinson
is she on cable? You may notice Fox, CNN, and MSNBC aren't "threatened by the FCC" either.

>>940023456
>except that didn't happen
The FCC pressured ABC to cancel his show. And as this says, you can't do shit like that: >>940020907
>but you know what actually is fascism? murdering a political activist because you disagreed with them
If it's done by the government sure. But this was just some random psycho.
Nobody on the left was calling for Charlie Kirk to be killed and democratic leadership denounced the killing.

>>940023633
MAGA isn't a party, they're just the subset of voters that support Trump
and I don't really see the problem with it, how is it different than politics in any other place? if a particular politician has values that the public agrees with and can get behind is that not what politics is?
this is the same thing that happened when Obama was in office, people got behind and supported him and his platform moreso than the party
I find it more concerning that people attach themselves to a particular party INSTEAD of values, which is what Democrats had been doing for so long, you have to support the party no matter what their policies or views are, and a big part of why they're losing support

>>940023816
>does the left not?
I don't think I saw any leftists trying to claim it was a MAGA person that stabbed people.
>Yet, Kimmel makes it seem like it's a one-sided issue.
In no way did he claim or imply it was a one-sided issue.
>is she on cable?
No, she is broadcasted on Sinclair stations.

>>940023591
>No, he wasn't.
why just blatantly lie like that? what do you think you're gaining?
>He was talking about MAGA trying to pin it on anyone but them.
and rightly so, because it wasn't them, but Kimmel was suggesting it was

>>940023456
>murdering a political activist because you disagreed with them
If anybody connected with the government had Kirk killed it was Trump to distract from the bizarre birthday he sent Epstein

>>940023889
>why just blatantly lie like that?
It's not a lie. I'm gaining nothing here except standing up for free speech.
>and rightly so
So you're admitting that what kimmel said was true?

>>940023857
It really is an outgrowth of the gerrymandering that occurred after Obama was elected in attempt to keep him to one term. Failed. But out came the tea party and every Republican who suddenly became terrified they would be primaried if they didn’t keep moving further and further to the right.

>>939993536 (OP)
he was already scheduled to be fired, they had to wait out his contract. its been known well before hand as his views decline

they just used this to term the contract quicker and not pay out

its that fucking simple stop being retarded and played into fighting each other
this is pathetic

>>940021735
Do they have a talk show over airwaves ruled by FCC?

>>940023847
>The FCC pressured ABC to cancel his show.
no they didn't, Trump made a wild claim about maybe they should look into it, like he does with so many other things, they didn't actually do anything
>But this was just some random psycho
that a very large number of people on the left publicly stated they agree with and support, and want to see more people killed
>Nobody on the left was calling for Charlie Kirk to be killed
pretty sure that's patently false

>>940023857
>I find it more concerning that people attach themselves to a particular party INSTEAD of values, which is what Democrats had been doing for so long
Nigger why do you think people attach themselves to a political party? Is it maybe because the political party (supposedly, especially with republicans-small government my ass) represents their values and beliefs? MAGA is fucked because it’s not a group of people centered around an idea or a belief but a PERSON and whatever that one PERSON believes. You have people who are cheering for somebody being censored that just five years prior were crying about the same thing because now that PERSON has told them freedom of speech actually doesn’t always apply. If Trump got on Twitter tomorrow and was like “trannies are this nation’s greatest asset” you’d have MAGA claiming they always respected pronouns and gender identity

>>940023966
>It's not a lie
it absolutely is
>So you're admitting that what kimmel said was true?
the right did push back, yes, that was never contended to begin with
but no, the shooter was not a MAGA, that's where the lie comes in
you're doing the same thing, you're trying to lump together 2 different things as one, and passing them off as if it's all the same thing

>>940024091
We didn’t want him to be killed. We just wanted the sponsored ads in our YT feeds to stop.

I would have settled for a night night alt-right haymaker though. Shooting him? That ain’t left. That’s some Gen Z with easy access to firearms type shit. I love you Gen Z but y’all make permanent decisions in temporary situations. Too much Fortnite.

>>940024161
>it absolutely is
It's not a lie. You admitted already that MAGA was doing it. Him pointing it out wasn't a lie. Me pointing out that he was pointing it out isn't a lie.

>>940023973
>if they didn’t keep moving further and further to the right.
the right didn't move any further right, only more people moved TO the right
the left meanwhile kept moving further and further left until they alienated all the voters in the middle

>>940023881
>In no way did he claim or imply it was a one-sided issue.
he did, by drawing attention specifically to the right's reaction, and then characterizing it as desperate. You are objectively mistaken. This is how lies of omission work.

Imagine, two people tell the same lie. A propagandist talks about the lie his enemy told and doesn't mention the lie his ally told. Does that not deceptively make it look one sided? Of course it does. He's only telling half the story! He didn't have to say his friend told the truth because he didn't talk about his friend at all. His viewers may come away from the show thinking his enemy lied. That is how propaganda works.

>>940024262
That's not a lie. You don't have to both sides as a talk show host.

>>940024256
The list is deep anonymous.

>>940024147
>represents their values and beliefs?
most parties don't perfectly align with any one person's views, if you drew a venn diagram of a party's platform and an individual's views, they don't form a circle, they overlap to one degree or another
people support parties and candidates that align on a subset of particular issues they are more concerned about, for some people it can be a single issue, and the rest doesn't matter
>MAGA is fucked because it’s not a group of people centered around an idea or a belief but a PERSON and whatever that one PERSON believes.
you're only partly right, and are incredibly naive to think any of this goes away after Trump. and it's not one one person believes, many people support these views, and will continue to after Trump leaves office
>If Trump got on Twitter tomorrow and was like “trannies are this nation’s greatest asset” you’d have MAGA claiming they always respected pronouns and gender identity
lmfao, no they wouldn't, they would push back and say that's ridiculous

>>940024229
>You admitted already that MAGA was doing it.
again, I admitted to the part that no one contested in the first place
and again, you're refusing to acknowledge the portion that is the lie
the issue was never about MAGA pushing back, and you know it, you're trying to play this weird game where you keep arguing a point no one is making so you can claim victory

>>940024417
your AI summary of some google search has nothing to do with what we're talking about

>>940024418
>lmfao, no they wouldn't, they would push back and say that's ridiculous
Just like how they’ve pushed back on encroaching on freedom of speech? This thread sure has demonstrated that

>>940024499
>again, I admitted to the part that no one contested in the first place
No... There has certainly been people stating ITT that they weren't, when confronted about it they slip back to "well both sides were doing it". There is no portion that was a lie, because as you've admitted MAGA was trying to characterize the shooter as anything other than one of them.
>the issue was never about MAGA pushing back
The issue is MAGA being upset either by ignoring the first part or being upset that he pointed out they were doing it.

>>940024292
>You don't have to both sides as a talk show host.
remember two seconds ago when you said
>>940023881
>In no way did he claim or imply it was a one-sided issue.

so all of a sudden it's ok that he made it a one-sided issue because he's free to do that as a talk show host? That's the worst kind of concession, tbh, because the only thing you can say in defense of his divisive, partisan lies is that it literally isn't illegal to tell them. You are so accustomed to being immersed in propaganda that you have come to expect it as the norm. Sad.

>>940024418
>and are incredibly naive to think any of this goes away after Trump
No I’m not I’m fully aware someone will step in once Trump dies who’ll gladly appeal to the retards of this country by demonizing brown people and the cycle will start all over again

>>940024646
not having to both-sides an issue isnt the same as making it a one sided thing.

>>940024623
>Just like how they’ve pushed back on encroaching on freedom of speech?
the only person's freedom of speech that was encroached was Charlie Kirk's when he was murdered for things he said

>>940024725
was it encroached by threats from executive branch employees?

>>940024625
>no portion that was a lie
the portion where Kimmel said he was one of them is the lie
>The issue is MAGA being upset
why is that an issue? why don't they have a right to be upset for being painted as political assassins or supporting it when it isn't true?
>being upset that he pointed out they were doing it
no one is upset that he said they were pushing back, again with the intentional misrepresentation of the discussion entirely
it's clear you're unwilling to discuss any of this in good faith

>>940024707
why is the left so incredibly racist and violent?

>>940024724
>not having to both-sides an issue isnt the same as making it a one sided thing.
please explain the difference. Explain to me how selectively ignoring one side and focusing exclusively on the other side is not making it one-sided.

Imagine I hit you, and you hit me back. I'm a talk show host, so all I need to talk about is how you hit me. It's ok that I do that, because I don't have to both-sides our fist fight. It's ok if people come away from my show with the wrong idea about the both of us, because I'm just a talk show host.

>>940024812
>the portion where Kimmel said he was one of them is the lie
He never said it was one of them.
>why is that an issue?
Idk, it upset the FCC chairman enough to make threats against broadcasters to silence kimmel.
>no one is upset that he said they were pushing back
There is certainly some upset that he called them out for desperately trying to blame other people, and like the part you ignored, some are upset because they ignored the first part of it, where he was saying MAGA was desperately trying to blame other people.

>>940024876
Okay, here's a way I can explain it.
What kimmel said, was not both siding an issue.
>with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it
Now, one-siding it would be with extra words
>with *only* the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything *to ensure that only* they can to score political points from it

Do you see a difference?

>>940024836
I must’ve missed the left politician who created a gestapo to round up brown people working in farms

>>940024707
>tolerant left
>calls anyone who doesn't agree with them "retards" and wants them all dead

>>940024883
>He never said it was one of them.
more doubling-down on the lie

>>940024958
I must have missed any politician in the US doing that

>>940025026
Do point out where Jimmy proclaimed that the shooter was MAGA.

>>940025060
start at the top of the thread and read it again

>>940024984
Not “anyone” just Trump supporters.

>>940025102
I've read it, MAGA seems to think that it was implied it was MAGA, but if you read what he said, he said that MAGA was desperately trying to characterize the shooter as anyone other than one of them. That's not implying the shooter was MAGA, it's stating, factually, that MAGA was desperately trying to characterize the shooter as anyone other than one of them.

>>940025138
that is a significant portion of the population

>>940025226
>significant portion of America is retarded
Great contribution anon, you should get into newscasting you can let the whole world know that water is wet and the sky is blue

>>940025057
Yeah, that’s easy to do when you spend all your time in 4chan echo chambers

>>940025167
>MAGA seems to think that it was implied it was MAGA
no, anyone who knows what words mean thinks it was implied, because it was, because that's what he intended to imply
>he said that MAGA was desperately trying to characterize the shooter as anyone other than one of them
correct, which confirms the above, glad you agree
> That's not implying the shooter was MAGA,
it obviously is, I'm sorry I can't understand it for you, probably because you don't want that to be the case so you refuse to accept it
> factually, that MAGA was desperately trying
factually, they were not "desperately" trying, they pushed back on a false narrative, because it wasn't true

>>940025300
so you think it's acceptable to want a large portion of fellow citizens to be killed for disagreeing with your political beliefs? that's disgusting and evil

>>940025328
>4chan
>echo chamber
wut

>>940025334
>anyone who knows what words mean thinks it was implied,
anyone with an above artic temperature IQ knows it wasn't.
>correct, which confirms the above,
It confirms that MAGA was desperately trying to characterize the shooter as anyone other than them
>it obviously is,
It isn't, but that's okay.
>factually, they were not "desperately" trying,
Factually, they were.

>>940025368
If they’re retarded enough to elect a complete retard like Trump and act like the retards in this thread doing mental gymnastics to justify what the FCC did I mean…

>>940025392
>what is /pol/

>>940024954
>Do you see a difference?
the meaning of the 2nd is clearly and unambiguously implied in the 1st. There is no functional difference. Not one of his listeners will leave the show thinking "well he didn't explicitly say 'only' maga, so I guess our guys are doing it too." This is how lies of omission work. This is how you can intentionally create false impressions by only presenting some of the truth.

Talking exclusively about one side is one-siding an issue. You are still defending deliberate and deceitful propaganda.

>>940025617
>the meaning of the 2nd is clearly and unambiguously implied in the 1st. There
No, it's not. Those are 2 different statements. I hope Jimmy actually gets fired so he can sue.

>>940025793
and by sue, I mean the federal government.

>>940025793
>Those are 2 different statements
that mean the same thing to the viewer. You are objectively incorrect and defending lies you think are convenient.

When fox news goes on air and says "liberals are cutting the dicks off of little boys!" why is that considered to be in poor taste? They didn't say ALL liberals, nor did they say ALL boys! Surely, you would defend the difference between "liberals are cutting boys dicks off" and "all liberals are cutting boys dicks off" right? Because they're 2 explicitly different statements? Piss off. Good day, sir.

>>940026368
>that mean the same thing to the viewer.
maybe to a brain rotten MAGA, sure.

>>940025816
>>940025793
I'm happy the retard gir canned.

I also he hopes he does sue the federal government and wins, so there is precedence that stops the Biden politics that allows government to meddle in those affairs.

>>940026576
>that stops the Biden politics that allows government to meddle in those affairs
I don't remember the FCC threatening to yank broadcasting licenses for wrongspeak.

>>939993682

If he's in Hell it's because he was too soft on faggots.

>>940026620
True, they only overreached on social media platforms during Biden. FCC complaints of news distortion were rejected since all them were due to distortion in the favor of DNC.

>>940026960
They did? They threatened companies? Did they do it in 4k like the FCC chairman did?

>>940026620
>I don't remember the FCC threatening to yank broadcasting licenses for wrongspeak.
Fox 29 (WTXF-TV) license renewal, in part due to Tucker Carlson, google it.

>>940027010
>>940027010
Murthy v. Missouri (formerly Missouri v. Biden)

>>940027202
check National Rifle Association of America v. Vullo for something that actually involved Executives branch and threats of regulation.

>>940027154
>Fox 29 (WTXF-TV)
Wasn't that because they broadcasted provable lies?

>>940027348
Yes, that is a good example too. However, I was focusing om media cases.

>>940027391
Like Kimmel did?

>>940027154
Also those weren't FCC employees making the claims that they were going to yoink it. Whereas the current chairman was making threats.

>>940027459
It went from direct lie, to implicit lie to lie by omission. That's different then airing broadcasts saying that dominion hacked our elections.

>>940027426
But that case was dismissed because they couldn't prove there was a real threat stated, whereas the chairman of the FCC did make a threat unless kimmel was punished for wrongspeak.

>>940027463
No, they just approved the baseless complaint from a democrat proxy group. In fact, when you really think about it, they went further than the current case with Kimmel spreading disinformation.

>>940027569
>they just approved the baseless complaint f
They looked at the complaint, and still approved the license. That wasn't federal employees making threats to take licenses away.

>>940027503
Listen, if I say that all through this conversation you have been trying hide that you are anything but a cumgargling cocksucker, that means I said you are a cumgargling cocksucker.

>>940027610
You've been saying a lot, but there was no lie. MAGA was trying to point fingers at anyone but MAGA.

>>940027603
The license was approved after it was clear Trump would enter office.

>>940027628
he was saying the shooter was MAGA if you lack reading comprehension.

>>940027689
Their license was still approved, and federal regulatory officials didn't threaten to take the license away. There's a big difference here.

>>940027736
No, he said that MAGA was desperately trying to claim he was anyone but MAGA. That's facts.

>>940027757
Didn't threathen? They basically did not renew their license and they were operating under a temporary extension, that is going further than what happened with ABC.

>>940027783
And by saying that he was saying the shooter was MAGA.

Whereas it is fully known to anyone he was a faggot furry who banged a trannie up the ass.

>>940027854
What the fuck are you talking about? There was no threat from an executive branch employee. That's illegal from the start.

>>940027887
He never said that. cope