Thread 940999715

A poll 4U fortune. We all concede that Trans women are not and can never be women. However there are in fact Trans women. So I poll you now. How many accept the existence of Trans women? Do you concede that Trans women exist and that their existence is acceptable including their very real feminine penises? Or do you choose to live in a false reality where you choose to believe these Trans women are just silly men simply because they have a pretty feminine penises?

>>940999715 (OP)
The latter. You have a penis then you're male. If you don't like that you're a male then I'm sorry for your misfortune

>>940999715 (OP)
Well as you already stated trans people do in fact exist regardless of what an outside observer feels about their beliefs. Conceptually for me its no different from religion. Muslims or Christians or Jews have a bunch of nonsense superstitious beliefs but they do exist and in fact have every right to exist within those parameters as long as its voluntary so the same applies to trans people who want to believe they are a different sex. "Femininity" and "masculinity" do indeed have a lot do with aesthetics and little to do with actually biology so to some extent they have a point. The only real problem they're having is surgical technology is so crude in terms of modification to people's bodies that almost nobody is very successful at a full on gender change. As surgical technology improves that will likely resolve itself. Trans people are definitely not going to disappear, so acceptance on some level isn't really up for debate. If they are citizens with rights their beliefs a out themselves shout be respected. Its not really an option to some extent because you can't really genocide an idea even if you want.

>>940999715 (OP)
No. Men cannot be women. Men cosplaying is all they will ever be, and vice versa.

>>940999715 (OP)
No discussion on the topic is viable until the distinction between sex and gender is unilaterally recognized.

>>940999715 (OP)
i'm a trans woman.


i'm a trans woman.


i'm a trans woman.


i'm a trans woman

>>940999715 (OP)
I believe that transvestites are just silly men in dresses.

Right now, just mutilation

But if science progresses, defiantly someday...

>>940999715 (OP)
Trans women exist and are women.

Their gender identity is male to female.

They are women.

They are trans women.

They are a woman.

They are a trans woman.

They are a woman and a trans woman.