Thread 941048627

I'm an atheist. I can see no rational, logic, empirical reason to think your god exists.

AMA

>>941048627 (OP)
Who do you have to win the Stanley Cup this season?

>>941048724
I grew up in Boston so I'm a Bruins fan

>>941048901
Dumbest troll argument I've seen in a while

>>941048901
BELIEVERS' LOGIC:
>Talking snakes exist
>God "made" light before god "made" suns to shine light
>God is perfect yet created flawed humans that god himself wanted to get rid of.

>>941048627 (OP)
Science has helped nasty jews enslave the lands. Ironically science IS a religion.

>>941049314
Israelis are talking snakes. Suns give energy, the ionosphere projects the light, God is disgusted by the jews. You flaunt your sins in his face.

>>941048627 (OP)
i bet you still believe in enlightenment or that the universe is conscious or that consciousness causes the wavefunction to collapse

>>941049926
You're thinking of closeted atheists (deists, pantheism types, etc)

>>941049816
>God is disgusted by the jews. You flaunt your sins in his (god's) face.

Prove to me your god exists

>>941049992
>prove
Setting the bar that high is just mean, everyone knows they can't even provide evidence.

>>941049926
>i bet you still believe in enlightenment or that the universe is conscious or that consciousness causes the wavefunction to collapse

No. I don't know if the universe is conscious, nor do I know if consciousness collapses the wave function.

I do know that the word "enlightenment" exists, and I do think that you and I have "consciousness".

>>941049992
on another board there's some dude who always goes on about how the bible is perfectly accurate and has no contradictions (people just interpret it wrong) also when i asked him about the genesis he said its just metaphorical also he says that all evidence points towards Jesus being "Christ" and all other religions being false

i wish you could argue with him because i just got tired lol

>>941048627 (OP)
You’re right of course, religion isn’t rational or logical or empirical. God is great, though.

>>941050142
Consciousness definitely does NOT collapse the wavefunction; that is just a common misunderstanding of the observer effect. Science has shown that the observer need not be conscious.

The double-slit experiment merely demonstrates the physical phenomenon of wave-particle duality, not anything related to consciousness.

>>941050060
>But I *believe*! I have *faith*! My beliefs and faith proves that god exists.

A person's beliefs and faith does not empirically prove the existence of god

>>941050252
>God is great, though.

Your god doesn't exist

>>941050433
Your gender doesn’t exist

>>941050295
Well duh/what I mean. They have nothing but faith which is garbage

>>941050504
Faith isn’t garbage, it’s extremely powerful.

>>941050475
Like your god, Satan doesn't exist either.

Why do you bring up gender. Why do you call your god "He". Is your god a male, with male genitalia. How do you have knowledge of your god's cock to call your god "He"?

>>941050554
Self deception is powerful? At best you're experiencing a placebo effect, which ain't nothing but imo you can accomplish it without looking/sounding retarded

>>941050554
>Faith isn’t garbage, it’s extremely powerful.

Faith is powerful. But a person's faith is not proof of their god's existence.

>>941050741
>How do you have knowledge of your god's cock to call your god "He"?

What is it you think they're doing on their knees all the time?!

>>941050820
I didn’t say it was. God is great.

>>941051320
It’s too bad you can’t enlighten hylics or NPCs. They’re doomed to rise no higher than their programming.

>>941051320
>God is great.

If your god is so great, why did your god create evil and a devil? Was it really a paradise if it includes poisonous fruit and snakes intent on hurting humans? Why did your god put Adam and Eve in such a dangerous place yo begin with?

>>941051839
I don’t know, but if I look out the window I can see the greatness of God’s creation.

>>941051320
i'm not sure if i understand. if you're not a christian, then why would you think that i am?

>>941052009
You can believe in God without following organized religion. That’s just one aspect of spirituality.

>>941051873
Tbf..... I don't think the Chinese and sand niggers see what you see rn.

This is a silly argument. It's been pretty well established that the belief in an all-powerful god figure is a result of an individual's brain wiring. Logic can never overcome intrinsic belief.

>>941048627 (OP)
that's because you're trying to understand the strawman version of God that people tell to children. start with the Greeks if you are serious about trying to understand the worldwide phenomena that is religion. or just say it's stupid and call it a day. what will it be man of science?

>>941053518
.......why the Greeks? They didn't start religion you twat.They were ONE OF SEVERAL who had examples of one.

Also also, I'm still not convinced science isn't the answer about any of them existing. There's so much we've learned from over so many centuries that it's kinda hard to just outright deny it. Even if you're just about the science, even science will tell you how connected so many things are, the ways they do or don't go together etc etc.

My argument has always been the first ideas of God were just humans called God for their role in existence.(kingdoms etc).
Theory wise, we were meant to both accept and deny what is. The murder porn online alone tells you just how vastly different everyone views shit alone.

>>941053829
well that's a nice idea. why don't we leave it at that and live the rest of lives without thinking about it any further?

>>941054406
Don't be such a communist about religious theories.

China's already doing wonders killing theirs for believing in any that isn't their social program God Xi xin ping.

"THE BOOK: On the Taboo Against Knowing Who You Are" by Allan Watts is what got me interested in spirituality in general. maybe it is of interest to you too

>>941054509
if that's all that God is to you then who am i to disagree?

>>941054661
If what's God to me? Elaborate.

>>941054782
dude i don't want to argue about your ideas of God. just read some philosophy and don't base your entire view of religion on what some braindead fundamentalists say or do. start with the greeks because they are the foundation of the western canon. you can do whatever you want though i'm not your boss

>>941054918
........you realize the idea of Christianity alone came from sand niggers right? Thats...literally just a history books perspective alone. Even the white man's edition of it admits that....you're also in a thread TO debate it wtf is that cop out because I asked for a clarification?
Also...."the foundation of the western canon" is the biggest stretch I've seen yet xD personally I thought Egyptian gods were interesting to learn about. Greek gods did have some appeal to them but most of them treat humans like garbage happy meal toys.


But sure bro. Greek gods set the grounds for the western world alright.the Greeks totally didn't slaughter countries to live their lifestyle of raping kids or anything.

>>941055235
you don't have to do it if you don't want to

>>941055376
And they would kill you if you didn't practice what they do.

Do you not know this? You'd think that'd be the first thing you'd admit. Especially about why Noone practices the worship of Greek gods outright anymore.

Just as a historical lesson of collapse.

atheists are insufferable

>>941055923
what makes you so sure there isn't one? if you can't prove a negative, then you can't prove that there isn't one.


you are assuming that we know nothing about the nature of reality.

>>941049761
>religion is what helps the jews
>trump is a christian
>president-orange helps the zionists

>science is bad, u see
>cuz its a religion
>like my religion