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Anonymous No.941390546 [Report] >>941393989 >>941394795 >>941396615 >>941403688
An entry level car (billy the college student's only option) in the US costs around 17-$20,000. In China you can get a car with the exact same features for around 3-$4,000. This is the minimum viable product for a "car," and even from reputable manufacturers these entry level vehicles are extremely poor options.

Why? Because steel is vastly cheaper. Electronics are vastly cheaper. Plastics manufacturing is vastly cheaper. Manufacturing space itself is vastly cheaper and less regulated against manufacturers. Automotive industry is far less reliant on human labor. Electricity is vastly cheaper.
>inb4 China shill
These are the facts. This is why China is undergoing a middle class explosion and the US' middle class is imploding. Everything is magnitudes cheaper and gets cheaper every day.
Anonymous No.941393989 [Report] >>941395072
>>941390546 (OP)
I think the best solution is for the US government to impose extra taxes on its citizens, then. Extra taxes for everything. They can be hidden by just taxing all incoming goods from everywhere, even things we absolutely can't make in the US, or can't make without them costing 10x as much, put extra taxes on those things too. Then the companies importing them are forced to either pass the extra costs on to the customer or go out of business. This will improve things for everyone by making it so no one can afford the basics to even live. Then no one's looking at how expensive cars are.
Anonymous No.941394795 [Report] >>941394926 >>941395102 >>941395671
>>941390546 (OP)
I like not getting arrested and executed in a fucking van because I used a vpn to access YouTube. If you where in China, it would be illegal to even be on this website.

But hey I guess some people just like the taste of Winnie the Poos cock in their mouth so much, shilling for China is worth it. Enjoy that cock op.
ßeany No.941394926 [Report] >>941399345
>>941394795
>have an acceptable quality of life while being responsible for what you say online
or
>not be responsible for what you say online while having an inteolerable quality of life
Pretty easy choice tbh
Anonymous No.941395072 [Report]
>>941393989
Americans paying higher prices for everything seems patriotic.
Anonymous No.941395102 [Report] >>941399345
>>941394795

They don't execute people for using VPN's in China. Chinese use VPNs quite regularly. Their quality of life has drastically improved in recent years.
Anonymous No.941395671 [Report] >>941399345
>>941394795
You vastly overestimate how many "rights" you actually have.
Anonymous No.941396615 [Report] >>941397960
>>941390546 (OP)
>what is buying used
>what is a loan

Hey retard, China's cars frequently blow up, and fall apart.
For all our problems, I would much rather have a slightly more expsensive but safe car is the US.
Anonymous No.941397960 [Report] >>941398086 >>941403792
>>941396615
This is not true, US and China have virtually the same automotive safety standards and accident rates. 4-5x is not "slightly more expensive."
Anonymous No.941398086 [Report] >>941398179 >>941398199
>>941397960
probably there are different usage patterns between the US and China that make certain small low-range vehicles that are affordable to produce effective products for the Chinese market when the same is not true of the US.

then there's the Chinese government subsidies
I dunno it's probably more complicated than American car companies aren't willing to produce $4000 cars
Anonymous No.941398179 [Report]
>>941398086
>probably
I'm talking about the same class of vehicle with the same mileage performance and features. New commuter cars are virtually the same all over the exporting world. The only major difference is that entry level all-electric commuter cars aren't available in the US.
Anonymous No.941398199 [Report] >>941399421 >>941403792
>>941398086
>it's probably more complicated than American car companies aren't willing to produce $4000 cars
Correct, and this is why:
>Because steel is vastly cheaper. Electronics are vastly cheaper. Plastics manufacturing is vastly cheaper. Manufacturing space itself is vastly cheaper and less regulated against manufacturers. Automotive industry is far less reliant on human labor. Electricity is vastly cheaper.
Anonymous No.941399345 [Report] >>941401086 >>941401345
>>941394926
I don't know. I have a really good quality of life, and I don't have to worry about being dragged out of my house, and killed in one of China's infamous execution vans for the crime of watching YouTube.

>>941395102
No but people get in trouble bypassing "the great firewall" using vpns. Accessing very simple sites, like for example 4chan. And execution is so common in China they have vans that come to you to do it.

>>941395671
I have the right to browse the internet without fearing for my life. I have the right to have an opinion about my country that isn't positive without fearing for my life.
Anonymous No.941399421 [Report] >>941401137 >>941401345
>>941398199
yeah Communist China
the tradeoff is having to live there
Anonymous No.941401086 [Report]
>>941399345
>my entire argument is "chyna kills you for watching youtube"
do you even realize the point of the firewall? it's to have alternatives to all web services that are native, that's the entire point
Anonymous No.941401137 [Report]
>>941399421
China having a communist part in power does not make it a communist country, brainlet
Every nation nationalizes some industries
Anonymous No.941401345 [Report]
>>941399345
>>941399421
Huh, funny how according to all the institutes that track human freedoms internationally say that even India is considerably more oppressive over personal and economic freedoms than China
Anonymous No.941403688 [Report]
>>941390546 (OP)
You might be missing the point in America, my man. You are the minimum viable product.
Anonymous No.941403792 [Report] >>941404031
>>941397960
>>941398199
Wrong again, fucko.
Anonymous No.941404031 [Report]
>>941403792
The US has the most traffic deaths in the world, China is in 8th place. Despite obviously having way more people.