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Anonymous No.941468624 [Report] >>941469374 >>941473329 >>941476085 >>941480747 >>941481597 >>941481992 >>941484582 >>941485445
Oh
Anonymous No.941469374 [Report]
>>941468624 (OP)
That's why i keep one in every cupboard of my house.
Anonymous No.941473329 [Report] >>941476085 >>941479039
>>941468624 (OP)
Anonymous No.941476085 [Report] >>941476535
>>941468624 (OP)
>we need water to survive
>*drowns*
I guess we don't need water to survive then
>>941473329
Did Charlie Kirk support shooting people for their opinions?
Anonymous No.941476535 [Report] >>941478646 >>941479039 >>941481255
>>941476085
"I think it's worth it to have a cost of unfortunately some gun deaths every single year so we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other god-given rights. That is a prudent deal. It is rational."-Charlie Kirk

Find another hill mate. This one looks like a lost cause.
Anonymous No.941477303 [Report] >>941477363 >>941477505 >>941477537 >>941477672
Despite mostly saving lives, there are deaths every year from vaccines.
Guns are the same way.
So you folx making fun of CK's stance on guns are awfully anti-vaccine right now.
Anonymous No.941477363 [Report]
>>941477303
Deep Thoughts from a Shallow Mind©
Anonymous No.941477481 [Report] >>941477648 >>941478683 >>941478904
>we need water to survive
>guns save lives
false equivalence. guns are not necessary for survival, and whether or not they save lives is highly circumstantial. guns likely take many more lives than they save in all contexts.
>vaccines can kill
vaccines are not devised to take life, like guns are. that is their intended purpose, to be efficient death bringers. any deaths that arise out of vaccine use are 100% unintended and most likely stem from complications, and on a case by case basis. the same is not true for firearms, as they are instruments of war that are intended on dealing fast and efficient death.
Anonymous No.941477505 [Report] >>941477648 >>941478142
>>941477303
Anonymous No.941477537 [Report] >>941477692 >>941478079 >>941478351 >>941479442 >>941494173
>>941477303
Guns are tools of death made for the specific purpose of taking lives.

Vaccines only exist to save lives.

If there were fewer guns then fewer people would die. If there were fewer vaccines then more people would die.

Regardless the accidental deaths from vaccine side effects is many orders of magintudes fewer than the intentional deaths by guns.
Anonymous No.941477648 [Report] >>941478201
>>941477481
>false equivalence.
>>941477505
>strawman
you were correct: false equivalence; I was wrong
Anonymous No.941477672 [Report]
>>941477303
It pains me that retarded people think like this. These people just exist and walk around.
Anonymous No.941477692 [Report] >>941477913 >>941478064
>>941477537
>If there were fewer guns then fewer people would die. If there were fewer vaccines then more people would die.
I mean... in the long run, by making human population boom, reducing infant mortality, one can argue they do cause more deaths. Deaths which wouldn't have happened if people died before they can reproduce.

Not taking a stance against you, just pointing it out.
Anonymous No.941477913 [Report] >>941478345
>>941477692
>the cause of death doesn't matter
...just pointing it out
Anonymous No.941478064 [Report] >>941478345
>>941477692
you are technically correct, by virtue of extending human life, more human death will inevitably follow, but those deaths are not attributable to vaccines. death is an inevitability, a natural result of being alive, and senescence is the culprit, not vaccines.
Anonymous No.941478079 [Report] >>941478152 >>941478345 >>941478350
>>941477537
Are you aware of the concept behind mutually assured destruction?

Also, the intention behind an invention, and it's actual usage aren't the same.
Coca-cola, when it was invented, was intended for medicine.
Anonymous No.941478142 [Report] >>941478201 >>941478350
>>941477505
So did CK die by a gunshot or not?
Anonymous No.941478152 [Report] >>941478249
>>941478079
>Are you aware of the concept behind mutually assured destruction?
what's that got to do with either this thread, or the price of wheat in Southern Zambesia?
Anonymous No.941478201 [Report] >>941478249
>>941478142
>>941477648
try reading faster, if possible
maybe run your finger along under each letter in each word
Anonymous No.941478249 [Report] >>941478350
>>941478152
Here is the link. Nukes, and guns, both were invented as killing machines, and are necessary to defend from them

>>941478201
We already moved on to mutually assured destruction as a deterrent, slowpoke
Anonymous No.941478345 [Report] >>941478752
>>941477913
>>941478064
People arguing like this is a thing, just vaccinating you against them fren.
>>941478079
inb4 nukes save lives
Anonymous No.941478350 [Report] >>941478792
>>941478249
>We already moved on to mutually assured destruction as a deterrent, slowpoke
>>941478079
>Are you aware of the concept behind mutually assured destruction?
10/21/25(Tue)11:53:11
>>941478142
>So did CK die by a gunshot or not?
10/21/25(Tue)11:55:00
time is a difficult concept for some people
Anonymous No.941478351 [Report] >>941478415 >>941478534 >>941478584
>>941477537
Guns and the threat of violence is literally the only thing stopping Tyrone and his buddies from breaking into every house and running a train on all your wives. Resulting in more pregnancies. Resulting in more deaths over time. Checkmate faggots.
Anonymous No.941478415 [Report] >>941478478
>>941478351
>is
*are
Anonymous No.941478478 [Report] >>941478531
>>941478415
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem
Anonymous No.941478531 [Report] >>941478559
>>941478478
not even *remotely* ad hominem
you're trying too hard
an ad hominem would be if I called you homeschooled because you don't know the difference between singular an plural verbs
Anonymous No.941478534 [Report]
>>941478351
>running a train on all your wives
Anonymous No.941478559 [Report]
>>941478531
*and
Anonymous No.941478584 [Report] >>941478735
>>941478351
incorrect, "tyrone and his buddies" are characterized as innately barbaric and bloodthirsty, which is a narrative that only moronic white supremacists believe. the fact is that human beings as a whole have a tendency to enact violence on their own kind and for a variety of reasons. perceived racial differences may sometimes come into play, but this factor is by no means the only or even the primary reason for acts of violence the world over.

a better strategy would be to separate non-violent people from those who are predisposed to violence, and the use of firearms by individuals will never affect such delineation on a systemic level. individually, you may use a firearm to dissuade others from crossing your boundaries, but that doesn't mean that those who were motivated enough to deal you harm wouldn't find a way to do so in spite of however many firearms you keep close to your chest.
Anonymous No.941478646 [Report] >>941478683 >>941478752
>>941476535
Do you think access to water is worth the cost of a few drownings every year?
Anonymous No.941478683 [Report] >>941478869 >>941478907
>>941478646
>>941477481
we've been through this already
Anonymous No.941478735 [Report] >>941479023
>>941478584
This is why pickpockets target police, gang members, and convicts with face tattoos at exactly the same rate as the elderly and drunken college kids.
Anonymous No.941478752 [Report]
>>941478646
>>941478345
Called it
Anonymous No.941478792 [Report] >>941478869 >>941478965 >>941479123
>>941478350
>CK: guns save lives
>you: but he died to a gun tho!
>libs: vaccines save lives
>rednecks: but ppl die to a vaccines tho!
Similarly to the rednecks dunking on vaccine desths, you're still ignoring all the lives saved in order to dunk by pointing out a gun death. It's not a strawman if the comparison is accurate.
Anonymous No.941478869 [Report]
>>941478792
>>941478683
why do you keep trying?
Anonymous No.941478904 [Report] >>941479023
>>941477481
It's not an equivalent, it's an analogy. Does the fact that drownings occur invalidate the claim that water is necessary for life? Does the fact that assassinations occur invalidate the fact that guns can be used to protect people?
Anonymous No.941478907 [Report] >>941479008
>>941478683
You can't say "guns are likely to... " in one post and then refer to it later and say "we've been through this" as if everybody agrees with your first post, pal
Anonymous No.941478965 [Report] >>941479134
>>941478792
Try using MAD as an argument again
that was highly successful
Anonymous No.941479008 [Report]
>>941478907
repeating the same thing over and over and over is not an "argument", pal
Anonymous No.941479023 [Report] >>941479269 >>941479352
>>941478735
a skilled enough pickpocket could hit anyone and not suffer any consequences. maybe you need to git gud. if you don't then you deserve whatever darwin award you get.
>>941478904
as beings of reason and intellect, it is possible for us to devise an environment in which the risk of drowning is effectively negated while also having access to clean drinking water for whatever applications you have in mind. the analogy is not apt, and it does attempt to equate the perceived necessity of gun ownership with the fundamental importance of water. what you propose is a false dichotomy. we don't need to choose between one or the other.
Anonymous No.941479039 [Report] >>941479064 >>941479101 >>941479161 >>941479302
>>941473329
REFUSING TO TOLERATE A SINGLE TYRANNICAL SOLUTION TO GUN CRIMES FACTUALLY DOES NOT MEAN YOU SUPPORT THE GUN CRIMES THEMSELVES YOU FUCKING BRAIN DAMAGED RETARD.
SHOW ME WHERE HE SUPPORTED MURDER OR ASSASSINATION?

>>941476535
YOU ARE IGNORING THAT HE SPECIFICALLY WANTED THE 2A TO SAVE MILLIONS OF OTHER LIVES.
Anonymous No.941479064 [Report] >>941479160
>>941479039
all caps
See Rule 2
Anonymous No.941479101 [Report]
>>941479039
all caps
Trump University scholar, or petulant 12 yo?
Anonymous No.941479123 [Report]
>>941478792
>>CK: guns save lives
>>you: but he died to a gun tho!
NO ONE CLAIMS THE 2A WILL SAVE ALL LIVES ESPECIALLY SNIPER SHOTS FROM WHERE YOU CAN'T SEE THE ATTACKER. THE POINT IS TO SAVE AS MANY LIVES AS POSSIBLE AND STRENGTHEN MILLIONS OF INNOCENT PEOPLES MORAL ABSOLUTE RIGHT TO SELF DEFENSE.
Anonymous No.941479134 [Report]
>>941478965
>sarcastically saying that was successful
There you go again, alluding to some sort of consensus in the room about you being right in the past, despite that what you're alluding to having been right about is still being discussed.
Let me guess, you were an engineering student?
Anonymous No.941479160 [Report] >>941479212
>>941479064
>Rule 2
WHERE ARE /B/s RULES POSTED?
I GENUINELY DON'T KNOW
Anonymous No.941479161 [Report]
>>941479039
bye
not worth my time arguing with a 12 yo posting in all caps
Anonymous No.941479212 [Report]
>>941479160
>WHERE ARE /B/s RULES POSTED?
>I GENUINELY DON'T KNOW
color me shocked
try harder newfag
(Protip: that's an ad hominem)
Anonymous No.941479269 [Report] >>941479300
>>941479023
You don't know what an analogy is. You don't know what a false dichotomy is. You are not a being of reason and intellect
Anonymous No.941479289 [Report]
do better, low effort.
>niggers tounge my anus
Anonymous No.941479300 [Report] >>941479333
>>941479269
says the retard.
Anonymous No.941479302 [Report] >>941479367 >>941479500 >>941479647
>>941479039
Was he or wasn't he in support of some people dying so others could have guns?
Matthew 26:52, from something else he believed and lived by. Start getting the hint.
Anonymous No.941479333 [Report] >>941479373
>>941479300
did you have help with that clever reply?
Anonymous No.941479352 [Report] >>941479373
>>941479023
You rn
Anonymous No.941479367 [Report] >>941479530 >>941479844
>>941479302
When people die by vaccine deaths, do you frame your view of that as "support of some people dying so others could have life"
?
Anonymous No.941479373 [Report] >>941479435
>>941479333
thought of it all by myself, retard. glad you were impressed.
>>941479352
huh?
Anonymous No.941479435 [Report] >>941479470 >>941479471
>>941479373
seriously dud, we're laughing *with* you, not *at* you
Anonymous No.941479442 [Report] >>941479497
>>941477537
>Guns are tools of death made for the specific purpose of taking lives.
Sometimes lives need to be taken.

>If there were fewer guns then fewer people would die.
So? People are very numerous and the world would probably benefit from a decline in their overall numbers. The great bulk of the population consists only of eaters who do not meaningfully contribute to progress, and the environmental cost of maintaining their existence is utterly devastating to nature.
Anonymous No.941479470 [Report]
>>941479435
*dude, although "dud" would also be appropriate
Anonymous No.941479471 [Report]
>>941479435
yeah I know :) you're a fun guy.
Anonymous No.941479497 [Report] >>941479593
>>941479442
>Sometimes lives need to be taken.
Charlie agreed, look what it got him
Anonymous No.941479499 [Report] >>941479579
Americans are such pussies. Imagine feeling scared in your own home without a gun.
Anonymous No.941479500 [Report] >>941479541 >>941480102
>>941479302
ACCEPTING THE INEVITABLY OF SOME DEATHS IN THAT SITUATION DOES NOT MEAN SUPPORTING THE INDIVIDUAL SPECIFIC MURDERS OR THAT ONE IS AGAINST FINDING OTHER SOLUTIONS TO SAVE THEM.
Anonymous No.941479522 [Report] >>941479552
Women Have Vaginas
Anonymous No.941479530 [Report] >>941479771
>>941479367
Gosh, do I sound that much like Charlie?
Anonymous No.941479541 [Report] >>941479605 >>941480591 >>941480614
>>941479500
why do you type in all caps, like a 12 yo?
Anonymous No.941479552 [Report]
>>941479522
Anonymous No.941479579 [Report] >>941479648
>>941479499
>Americans
all Americans are alike, amirite?
Anonymous No.941479593 [Report]
>>941479497
Okay? The guy who killed him apparently felt the same, so I dunno what your point is supposed to be. People kill eachother sometimes if they disagree strongly enough?
Anonymous No.941479605 [Report]
>>941479541
He has cruise control on.
Anonymous No.941479647 [Report]
>>941479302
He wasn't in support of people dying, he merely accepted that there is a cost. Allowing good people access to something has the risk of allowing bad people to access the same thing
Anonymous No.941479648 [Report] >>941479890
>>941479579
Yup
and all Brits are alike
and all Deutsche are alike
and all Scandinavians are alike
...
Anonymous No.941479771 [Report] >>941480389 >>941481117
>>941479530
>guns likely take many more lives than they save in all contexts.
Honestly, this is what this argument ultimately boils down to. Nobody actually has the data to objectively prove or disprove this. Date for crimes committed is easy to find. Data for crimes deterred, stopped, or otherwise prevented can only be speculative until everyone has a brain chip and Big Brother can read everyone's thoughts at all times.
Anonymous No.941479844 [Report] >>941480175
>>941479367
If administering a vaccine causes the death of the individual being vaccinated, an argument can be made that the vaccine is flawed and should be banned. But if a bad actor forces a patient to overdose on a vaccine (I don't know if that's possible), killing them, then the vaccine isn't the problem, and it shouldn't be banned. It's the person who administered it who is at fault. The second example is more like the gun situation
Anonymous No.941479890 [Report]
>>941479648
I wish that were true
Anonymous No.941480102 [Report] >>941480496 >>941480592 >>941481326
>>941479500
What I'm hearing is, you'd be fine with the death of someone as long as it was someone you didn't know personally or heard that they died for your guns.

Is that the position you're defending? You're okay with murder in the abstract sense, so long as it's not at your doorstep or someone you don't personally care about and you have something to gain from it?

See, I also can make bad faith arguments, straw man your position and whatnot.

Put down that caps so we can talk.
Anonymous No.941480175 [Report] >>941480327 >>941480333
>>941479844
>an argument can be made that the vaccine is flawed and should be banned.
that argument can only be made by an anti-vax pseudoscientist
try harder
Anonymous No.941480327 [Report] >>941480428 >>941481117
>>941480175
Why is it ok to ban substances that temporarily alter your consciousness, but not ok to ban substances that permanently alter your immune system and dna?
Anonymous No.941480333 [Report] >>941480478
>>941480175
A vaccine that kills patients is fine?
Anonymous No.941480389 [Report]
>>941479771
All hail Neuralink
Anonymous No.941480409 [Report]
Nukes literally do save lives. If we didn't build ours, they would use theirs to enslave or kill us.
>...heh! Shouldn't have built it then!
Yeah, if your best solution is to use a time machine to go back and prevent the United States from ever having guns, you're a retard.
We live in the now. And now, we need guns to protect against criminally minded people with guns.
Anonymous No.941480428 [Report] >>941480475
>>941480327
false equivalence, again
Anonymous No.941480475 [Report]
>>941480428
It's really not though. Heroin and Meth are perfectly safe when used as directed. One might even say they can be beneficial.
Anonymous No.941480478 [Report] >>941481409
>>941480333
Charlie Kirk would say "yes"
Anonymous No.941480496 [Report] >>941480591 >>941481489
>>941480102
WHEN DID I STRAW MAN YOU?

NO THEIR DEATHS WOULD STILL BE ILLEGAL. THEY DID NOT DIE FOR ANYTHING BUT A EVIL PERSON DOING EVIL TO THEM. THE REASON WE DID NOT SAVE THEM USING THE SPECIFIC SOLUTION OF GUN CONFISCATION IS BECAUSE IT INFRINGES ON THE RIGHTS OF EVERY OTHER LIVING AMERICAN TO DEFEND THEMSELVES FROM RAPE AND MURDER. THAT AGAIN DOES NOT MEAN I AM ADVERSE TO SAVING THEM SOME OTHER WAY.
Anonymous No.941480591 [Report] >>941480748
>>941480496
>>941479541
Anonymous No.941480592 [Report] >>941480614 >>941481489
>>941480102
>You're okay with murder in the abstract sense, so long as it's not at your doorstep or someone you don't personally care about and you have something to gain from it?
NO ONE IS GAINING FROM THEIR DEATHS. WE ARE GAINING FROM REFUSING TO SAVE THEM IN 1 SINGLE SPECIFIC TYRANNICAL MANNER BECAUSE THAT SOLUTION WOULD HARM MILLIONS MORE.
Anonymous No.941480614 [Report]
>>941480592
>>941479541
Anonymous No.941480747 [Report]
>>941468624 (OP)
kyle rittenhouse would agree
Anonymous No.941480748 [Report] >>941481121 >>941481187
>>941480591
Off topic and not him, but why are people so butthurt about caps? It's not real life, nobody is actually aggro in your face yelling at you causing you a physiological reaction making you upset. It's literally just a different font. Like, I'm not going to take your argument seriously because you use helvetica instead of times new roman? I don't get it.
Anonymous No.941481117 [Report]
>>941479771
>If administering a vaccine causes the death of the vaccinated, then the vaccine is flawed and should be banned
not necessarily. it may be the case that the vaccine is flawed in some way, but the resultant death may have happened for a variety of reasons outside of the vaccine's efficacy. maybe it was malpractice, maybe it was an allergic reaction, maybe it was taken with another substance that triggered an unprecedented reaction, etc. banning the vaccine should only be advocated for when we know for certain that it has no value and only causes harm (like street available heroin for example).
>if a bad actor forces a patient to overdose on a vaccine, killing them, then the vaccine isn't the problem
this would be an example of malpractice.
>The second example is more like the gun situation
yes, negligence is a factor in gun deaths, but that only bolsters the argument that the average person is unfit for gun ownership. basically, the idea would be:
1. gun related death as a result of negligence is unacceptable.
2. most people are incapable of safely owning, operating, and maintaining firearms, and restricting the access of unauthorized persons thereof.
3. therefore, it may be prudent to deny firearm access to the general population, save for but a few who can demonstrate such fitness for gun ownership.
>>941480327
>Why is it ok to ban substances that temporarily alter your consciousness
the general idea is that these substances are unsafe because they make due bodily harm, or inadvertently influence an otherwise reasonable person into enacting violence upon themselves or others. I don't subscribe to this notion.
>not ok to ban substances that permanently alter your immune system and dna?
the point of the vaccine is to render a targeted immunity to specific ailments, so such alteration would be justified in meeting that objective.
Anonymous No.941481121 [Report] >>941481798
>>941480748
a 12 yo (or a 12 yo mentality) uses all caps
prove me wrong
Anonymous No.941481187 [Report]
>>941480748
>because you use helvetica instead of times new roman
false equivalence, we've been through this
Anonymous No.941481255 [Report] >>941481574
>>941476535
I like cars, I don't like drunk drivers.
See how easy it is to focus on the behavior, not the object?
Anonymous No.941481305 [Report] >>941483750
Kirk lived.
His memory still lives.
Anonymous No.941481326 [Report] >>941481607
>>941480102
I don't think most people really care if random strangers die.
Anonymous No.941481409 [Report]
>>941480478
So he agrees with you?
Anonymous No.941481489 [Report] >>941482161 >>941484229 >>941484839
>>941480592
>>941480496
Where did I advocate total gun confiscation? There's your strawman. I claimed Charlie Kirk supported some gun deaths so long as 2A stands. I proved my argument with a quote from Charlie Kirk.
My other quote also still stands, maybe start looking into protecting yourself from RAPE AND MURDER via other means than your metal phallus.
Anonymous No.941481574 [Report]
>>941481255
Let me do another strawman. So you're in support of mandatory breathalyzers for all cars sold in US?
I can see why people do these logical fallacies, it's quite fun.
Anonymous No.941481597 [Report] >>941485481
>>941468624 (OP)
Do you wish Charlie Kirk were still alive to preach gun ownership? Or are a few deaths worth it to get rid of guns?
Anonymous No.941481607 [Report] >>941482021
>>941481326
It's gonna be a different world when they start to.
Anonymous No.941481798 [Report] >>941482057
>>941481121
Idk bro, my 78 yr old father sometimes types in all caps because he has no idea where the caps lock key even is, so i'm inoculated against it. He's lucky to be able to type in the first place. I guess that could be seen as 12 yo mentality, but mostly it's just ignorance.
Anonymous No.941481992 [Report]
>>941468624 (OP)
More people are saved by guns in this country than killed by them
Anonymous No.941482021 [Report] >>941482322
>>941481607
They won't. Humans simply aren't designed like that.
Anonymous No.941482057 [Report]
>>941481798
What are you, fuckin' 55?
Anonymous No.941482161 [Report] >>941482238 >>941482332 >>941483308
>>941481489
Devil's advocate for the 12 yr old who can't seem to articulate his argument. The point he is trying to make is that Kirk's quote has context. He is not supporting any/all gun deaths, especially not those as a result of someone expressing their right to free speech (as Kirk's was). He is supporting gun deaths as an extension of preexisting crimes of passion, conflict, self-defense, accidental death, etc.
Anonymous No.941482234 [Report] >>941490289
Crying won't bring him b-ACK!
Anonymous No.941482238 [Report] >>941482419
>>941482161
show us where he articulated those distinctions
Anonymous No.941482322 [Report]
>>941482021
One can always hope for some emergent behavior.
Anonymous No.941482332 [Report]
>>941482161
made up wishful thinking
Anonymous No.941482419 [Report] >>941482486
>>941482238
Honestly, I was never a fan and only vaguely aware of him before his death. But I know his stance on free speech was strong. He probably would be right at home on 4chan in that respect. I am sure there must be quotes from him out there saying something to the effect that responding to someone's speech with violence should never be tolerated. Regardless, that is my perspective and I am sure the perspective of a lot of 2nd amendment supporters.
Anonymous No.941482486 [Report] >>941483234
>>941482419
>I am sure there must be quotes from him out there saying something to the effect
I'm not
Anonymous No.941483234 [Report] >>941483310
>>941482486
I mean he does say a lot that free speech is supposed to be an alternative to violence. That it should preempt or deter violence. Expanding on that there is a reason the 1st amendment is 1st and the 2nd amendment comes after that.
Anonymous No.941483308 [Report]
>>941482161
Bad argument to be honest. Pro gun argument for ages have always been people gonna crime, with legal gun, illegal gun or without gun and gun related accidents don't happen with responsible gun ownership, ( aka: It's a tool for death, not a toy, treat it like one ). To most of people on his opposition, that argument was basically " Can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs ".

Anyways, nil nisi bonum
Anonymous No.941483310 [Report] >>941484353
>>941483234
> He is supporting gun deaths as an extension of preexisting crimes of passion, conflict, self-defense, accidental death, etc.
still waiting
Anonymous No.941483750 [Report]
>>941481305
Legacy of being an idiot.
Anonymous No.941484229 [Report]
>>941481489
>Where did I advocate total gun confiscation?
WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT YOU RETARD. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT WHAT CHARLIE WAS OPPOSING WITH THAT QUOTE.
Anonymous No.941484353 [Report] >>941484450 >>941484673
>>941483310
Like I said, in the Bill of Rights, they put things in a specific order for a reason. Free speech comes before the right to bear arms. Implying that when in doubt of when this right applies, refer to the other rights. That's my perspective at least. It's kind of a moot point in the end anyway. Killing someone is a crime either way, whether youre killing them because you disagree with their free speech or just because you dislike them, whether you're using a gun or telekenesis doesn't really matter. I don't think Kirk was an advocate for committing crimes, and it seems like that's what people who take this quote out of context are implying.
Anonymous No.941484450 [Report] >>941484666 >>941484869
>>941484353
I think people are doing themselves and the country a huge disservice by "taking sides". Everyone should be operating from the assumption that everyone thinks what they think because they actually genuinely believe what they think will cause the most good in the end, and not simply being a shallow partisan or a selfish "b-but muh guns" kind of person. Perspective.
Anonymous No.941484582 [Report]
>>941468624 (OP)
>supports doxxing uneducated conservatives
>gets doxxed
>cries
>works at Pizza Hut
Why do they brag about degrees they don’t even use?
Anonymous No.941484666 [Report]
>>941484450
If someone could show me objective data on the efficacy of guns as a deterrent, I would be open to having a discussion about it. But that conversation is currently impossible to be had. So all I can base my opinions on is my own perspective and experience. I for one would certainly be committing a lot more crimes if I wasn't worried about getting shot or prison raped. I can't be the only one.
Anonymous No.941484673 [Report] >>941485069
>>941484353
and not a single word about CK's imagined thoughts like in your original post
Anonymous No.941484839 [Report] >>941485131 >>941486586
>>941481489
>Where did I advocate total gun confiscation?
Why don't you? How many deaths are acceptable just so some people can keep guns?
Anonymous No.941484869 [Report] >>941485212
>>941484450
Debating about guns is useless. We pro gun people already won the culture war in America thanks to COVID. Even the silent majority of liberals outside of raped state are progun in the US states and just begrudgingly vote the way they do for better healthcare. If the Democratic Party dropped gun control they wouldn’t lose any votes. It’s no coincidence the people taking the anti-gun stance on 4chan are usually stinky Europeans.
Anonymous No.941484892 [Report] >>941484968 >>941485024 >>941485271
What gun law proposed by Democrats would have prevented Charlie's shooting?

The gun was a single shot bolt action rifle. It wasn't semi-automatic and couldn't be converted to fire rapidly. It did not use high capacity magazines. It was not an assault weapon. It was not a handgun (used in the overwhelming majority of gun violence).

Democrats always say they don't want to restrict hunting weapons. This was a hunting weapon.

The shooter had no mental illness diagnosis. Hey had no criminal record. He would have passed a background check.

The gun wasn't purchased by him, it was stolen from the family.

That being said. How would more strict gun laws have stopped this? Be specific.
Anonymous No.941484968 [Report] >>941485060
>>941484892
reddit spacing, but no random all caps
what's up?
Anonymous No.941485024 [Report]
>>941484892
I have a pretty big xwitter account and I just ignore anti-gun people. It’s better to deny them a debate as it denies them a voice too. Just focus on writing politicians you need to write. We already flipped most of the country to constitutional carry and the federal judges keep blocking other restrictions.
Anonymous No.941485060 [Report] >>941485097
>>941484968
If you don't use reddit spacing then people say.
>Didn't read that wall of text
Both reddit spacing and wall of text are responses for mental midget retards who can't criticize what was actually said.
Anonymous No.941485069 [Report] >>941485172
>>941484673
I can see you are exactly the type of person taking these arguments in bad faith and taking sides saying Kirk got what he deserved. Can you not hold two ideas in your mind simultaneously? People should be allowed to own guns and also people shouldn't get murdered for saying words? Seems pretty easy to me.
Anonymous No.941485097 [Report]
>>941485060
but you *always* use random all caps
are you OK?
Anonymous No.941485131 [Report] >>941485973 >>941486586
>>941484839
>No one was consuming alcohol during prohibition

Pic related, maybe this problem requires a different approach.
Anonymous No.941485172 [Report]
>>941485069
still didn't show
> He is supporting gun deaths as an extension of preexisting crimes of passion, conflict, self-defense, accidental death, etc.
I'll keep waiting in anxious anticipation though
Anonymous No.941485212 [Report]
>>941484869
I just want to make clear, I support the 2nd amendment and I also do not own a gun. I also believe the two party system in this country is one of if not the biggest problems we as a country face, and 99% of people who identify as Democrat or Republican are hurting the country more than they are helping it.
Anonymous No.941485271 [Report] >>941485520
>>941484892
This guy gets it.
Anonymous No.941485445 [Report] >>941485716
>>941468624 (OP)
More guns would have prevented it.
More guards with guns would have prevented it.
You will never get less guards with guns, only more.


So whats your point, aside from that your dad beat you unfairly and fairly?
Anonymous No.941485481 [Report] >>941485631
>>941481597
>get rid of guns
the copium oh my LANTA
Anonymous No.941485520 [Report] >>941485973
>>941485271
The only way this could have been realistically prevented is either mass confiscation which would just leave all the guns in the hands of criminals, or by a surveillance apparatus so powerful it can literally read the thoughts and words of every single person everywhere all the time. Both of those options are fucking shit.
Anonymous No.941485631 [Report]
>>941485481
What?
Anonymous No.941485716 [Report]
>>941485445
>less guards
*fewer
learn2english
Anonymous No.941485973 [Report]
>>941485520
See
>>941485131 and picrel for first part
Jokingly I would say second is against 4th amendment
Anonymous No.941486586 [Report] >>941486786
>>941484839
>>941485131
This guy obviously smooth brained, not going to understand the point. I'll spell it out for ppl. Japan has some of the strictest gun laws in the world and basically nobody is able to own guns and the prime minister was still shot with a home-made gun. Same thing with the other guy in the post below, the kid fucking 3D printed a gun to kill the healthcare CEO.
TLDR: Confiscating guns wont stop people from getting shot either.
Anonymous No.941486786 [Report] >>941486974
>>941486586
Literally nobody has a good answer to this, everyone just wants to feel self righteous screaming Think of the Children! and calling each other bad guys. What would happen if Americans would stop being brainwashed into fighting among themselves and actually started addressing the really big societal issues causing ppl to want to fucking kill each other in the first place? If anything Luigi was on the right path.
Anonymous No.941486974 [Report] >>941487002 >>941487128 >>941487281
>>941486786
Because discussing the actual problem is "racist".
Anonymous No.941487002 [Report] >>941487128
>>941486974
Anonymous No.941487128 [Report]
>>941486974
>>941487002
And let's not forget how many of these "whites" are "white".
Anonymous No.941487281 [Report] >>941487428
>>941486974
Funny enough, this was the exact point CK was making when he was shot. I've also seen clips of him saying it's because they come from broken homes with absent fathers on drugs or in prison and people say he is being racist and "spreading hate" but you can't come up with a solution for the problem without naming the problem first. Fuck logic though amirite? Go team blue!
Anonymous No.941487428 [Report]
>>941487281
It's dey culcha
Anonymous No.941487475 [Report] >>941487550 >>941490625
one less fascist in the world, sadly killing them one-by-one is not fast enough to fix the US
Anonymous No.941487550 [Report] >>941487891
>>941487475
You won't do shit. You have never even been in a fist fight and are completely inexperienced when it comes to violence, keyboard warrior.
Anonymous No.941487891 [Report] >>941489765
>>941487550
In my experience, anyone who uses the word fascist to talk about anything that happened outside the 1930s and 40s is actually a literal faggot. Very easy to spot.
Anonymous No.941489765 [Report] >>941490300
>>941487891
Read a book
Anonymous No.941490289 [Report] >>941490471
>>941482234
>Crying won't bring him b-ACK!
POP goes the weasel!
Anonymous No.941490300 [Report]
>>941489765
This one ok?
Anonymous No.941490471 [Report]
>>941490289
Game over.
Anonymous No.941490625 [Report]
>>941487475
>Calls someone fascist
>Supports killing them to suppress their opinions because too many people might agree with them
Anonymous No.941494173 [Report]
>>941477537
>Vaccines only exist to save lives.

KEK imagine being this oblivious. A vaccine saves the lives of its hosts in the same way a police officer with a gun saves the lives of the citizen. the vaccine is literally the same exact example you dope. Both cops and vaccines save and take the lives of both. Your moral compass is aliened as if all life is sacred and should be saved. But its not and it never can be by human hands.