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Anonymous No.941474407 [Report] >>941474951 >>941475347 >>941478053 >>941478660 >>941478923 >>941480402
What can be done about the state of modern men?
Anonymous No.941474484 [Report] >>941474951
Anonymous No.941474951 [Report] >>941475017
>>941474407 (OP)
>>941474484
samefag
Anonymous No.941475017 [Report] >>941475340
>>941474951
You lost, tranny
Anonymous No.941475340 [Report] >>941475446
>>941475017
I'm not a troon, I'm just pointing out that you are trying to jump start your own thread.
Anonymous No.941475347 [Report] >>941475391
>>941474407 (OP)
giving them access to trans resources and community while they're young before they end up like that
Anonymous No.941475391 [Report] >>941475859 >>941478791
>>941475347
There is no such thing as trans kids.
Anonymous No.941475446 [Report] >>941475520
>>941475340
But you're wrong, faggot
Anonymous No.941475520 [Report] >>941475942
>>941475446
Have this anon, I think you can make good use of it.
Anonymous No.941475859 [Report] >>941476001
>>941475391
any trans adult was at one point a trans kid.
Anonymous No.941475942 [Report]
>>941475520
Autism
Anonymous No.941476001 [Report] >>941476070 >>941476185
>>941475859
Nah they were just a kid, the gender and sexuality stuff only applies once they've grown up, there are no gay 6 year olds because they aren't sexual yet and there aren't any 6 year old trans men or women because they aren't men or women yet.
Anonymous No.941476070 [Report] >>941476140
>>941476001
>people don't express themselves until they're 18
your brain is mush
Anonymous No.941476140 [Report]
>>941476070
Sure and you think cats can be vegan.
Anonymous No.941476185 [Report] >>941477062
>>941476001
if "gender and sexuality only applies once they're grown up" why are you trying to force genders and sexualities onto children?

you aren't giving them the choice, you are forcing *your* idea of what someone else's identity is and desperately trying to legislate against body autonomy. the fact you see freedom of expression as an issue says a lot about yourself. seek help
Anonymous No.941477062 [Report] >>941477397 >>941477939 >>941478549 >>941478995
>>941476185
>why are you trying to force genders and sexualities onto children?
I'm not, I'm not telling little Timmy that he's a girl because he likes to play with dolls and I'm not telling little Tammy that she's a boy because she likes playing soccer and I'm sure as hell not telling either of them what their sexual preferences are, because their gender expression and sexuality aren't something I can dictate for them.
Their biological sex is irrefutable though, so I will refer to them as the boy and girl that they are, while accepting whatever benign masculine or feminine traits that they have, no matter how atypical they might be when compared to the behavioral norms of their sexes.
I of course think that whatever mental issues they might have should be addressed. But in the case of identity issues where they feel that their behaviors and feelings are incongruent with their birth sex, I prefer the approach of supporting them in accepting those traits that they were born with as something that is just naturally part of their personality, which doesn't in fact conflict with their sex, because there are no hard rules on how masculine or feminine the sexes are allowed to be.
The norm isn't a rule, it's a data set describing how the majority behaves.
Now if someone grows up feeling trans, go through all of the type of help that I describe above and still feels the need to transition once they have turned 18, it is their right to make that choice. Before then I consider any trans treatment of kids as adults meddling with their lives before they are old enough to give informed consent to that stuff.
Your whole accusation about my views on freedom of expression is a straw man, so I'm not going to dignify it with a response.
Anonymous No.941477397 [Report] >>941477424
>>941477062
im not reading all that shit lol
learn to convey your opinion without writing a blabbering memoir
>im not forcing an identity on a child, im just not letting them choose and forcing the identity of my own choosing, which is completely different!
Anonymous No.941477424 [Report] >>941477519
>>941477397
>im not reading all that shit lol
I accept your admission of defeat.
Anonymous No.941477519 [Report] >>941477590
>>941477424
make up what you like, you are ultimately a creep who wants to force sexualities onto children
Anonymous No.941477590 [Report] >>941477776
>>941477519
>you are ultimately a creep who wants to force sexualities onto children
You didn't read my post which directly refutes that claim, so you just look dumb now.
Anonymous No.941477776 [Report] >>941477939
>>941477590
you didn't refute anything you bumbling mess
Anonymous No.941477939 [Report] >>941478007
>>941477776
And you're doubling down on looking dumb.
Lemme spoon feed you then.
>>941477062
>and I'm sure as hell not telling either of them what their sexual preferences are, because their gender expression and sexuality aren't something I can dictate for them.
Here comes the airplane! *brrrrrrrrrrrrooommm*
Anonymous No.941478007 [Report] >>941478099
>>941477939
>and I'm sure as hell not telling either of them what their sexual preferences are, because their gender expression and sexuality aren't something I can dictate for them.
in the same post you wrote that
>Their biological sex is irrefutable though, so I will refer to them as the boy and girl that they are
so uh kill yourself
Anonymous No.941478053 [Report]
>>941474407 (OP)
"men" don't need anything to be done to their state
the faggot in your picture needs a a change to the state of his brain. likely a 9mm bullet will help
Anonymous No.941478099 [Report] >>941478180
>>941478007
Gender expression doesn't change sex, that is just a fact.
But sure be mad and wrong, that is your prerogative.
Anonymous No.941478180 [Report] >>941478313
>>941478099
i'm sure you wouldn't have a problem with letting a minor decide which puberty they go through then
Anonymous No.941478313 [Report] >>941478373
>>941478180
If that was a thing we could actually do, as in wholesale turn a man into an actual woman and vice versa, I still think that should be an adult choice. I think people should mentally mature before they make a choice like that, just to make sure that they are in fact the ones making that choice.
Münchhausen by proxy is an issue in regards to mothers of trans kids.
Anonymous No.941478373 [Report] >>941478431
>>941478313
so instead of letting minors decide which sex characteristics they have, you wish to force your own ideology and gender identity onto them

you are a creep
Anonymous No.941478431 [Report] >>941478589
>>941478373
No, I am merely opposing you doing that to them and leaving the choice up to them, if I were to think like you accuse me of, I would be saying that they don't get to transition at all.
Anonymous No.941478549 [Report] >>941478656
>>941477062
when i was a boy i played with my two sisters a lot, they had barbies & i had action figures. now i'm in my 50s & still a virgin
Anonymous No.941478589 [Report] >>941478726
>>941478431
>leaving the choice up to them
so you agree with me that minors should have access to trans healthcare?
Anonymous No.941478656 [Report]
>>941478549
Okay.
When I was little I thought my older sister was super cool, so one year when she dressed up as fairy princess for Halloween, so did I. The year after that I dressed up as the Ewok Wicket.
Now I'm a 38 year old man and I'm not a virgin.
Anonymous No.941478660 [Report]
>>941474407 (OP)
Let these trans & femboys be. At the end of the day it leaves more options for the real men to stick their cock in. There's a trans chick I have been fucking for a while who now wants me to dick down her wife & possibly move in so I can fuck them both every night.
Anonymous No.941478726 [Report] >>941478773
>>941478589
No, they get to make that choice at 18.
Besides gender change surgeries tend to be more successful when they have fully matured genitals to work with.
Anonymous No.941478773 [Report] >>941478822
>>941478726
>No, they get to make that choice at 18.
after you have already forced your gender ideology and sex characteristics onto them?
Anonymous No.941478791 [Report] >>941478931 >>941478995
>>941475391
i didn't know what being trans was until i was 19. my earliest memory is crying on my bed early in the morning because i was a boy. i cried when i was growing up because i was a boy. i tried to kill myself 3 times, because i was a boy, it was so bad i even convinced myself it was possible id be reborn a woman or just be a normal person.
my entire experience as a kid was wanting to be a girl and hating myself for not being one.
i still don't think it would have been good for me if my parents decided to give me hormones or puberty blockers if they was well known then. i was a child. i tried to kill myself, id have been fine with them and probably wouldn't have tried killing myself if i knew being trans was possible.

i wasn't a trans kid, i was a kid who grew up and realised i was trans. the same way a gay person isn't a gay kid, he's a kid and discovers a part of himself.
for me, transgender wasn't even a word i knew about. i can say for certainty that it wasn't pushed on to me from anywhere, i can't say the same for any kids nowadays.
Anonymous No.941478822 [Report] >>941478931
>>941478773
No, I'm still not the monster you've made up in your head.
Anonymous No.941478923 [Report] >>941478958
>>941474407 (OP)
get rid of actresses, men cross dressing on stage is tradition women in media have done some damage to puritian beliefs
Anonymous No.941478931 [Report] >>941479045 >>941479207
>>941478791
lol stfu grifter
anyone can see through your shit from a mile away

>>941478822
>it's not that i dont think people should have choice, i just think people shouldnt have choice!
Anonymous No.941478958 [Report]
>>941478923
how can you type that with one hand?
Anonymous No.941478995 [Report]
>>941478791
>i wasn't a trans kid, i was a kid who grew up and realised i was trans.
That sentiment was my entire point with this post >>941477062
I have no beef whatsoever with you being trans now, because you made that choice as a legal adult.
I do hope that you received help for your mental issues while you were a child, my childhood was also emotionally tumultuous so I can sympathize with you.
Anonymous No.941479045 [Report]
>>941478931
So this is you quadrupling down on looking dumb.
Anonymous No.941479113 [Report] >>941479218
The question is: WHY DO YOU CARE???

I would like to get an answer from the conservatives of the thread.

WHY THE FUCK DO YOU CARE ABOUT FAGGOTS???

A lot of faggots are wearing dresses an fucking each other. The question is: WHY DO YOU CARE???

My theory is that you are gay deep inside (no pun indeed) and then you get mad, cause you are jealous.

You may say that some faggots fuck children. Well, guess what: SOME PRIESTS DO THAT SHIT ASWELL.

SO... WHY THE FUCK DO YOU CARE???
Anonymous No.941479207 [Report]
>>941478931
chances are anon you believe porn addicts with AGP are trans or that trans is something you can self ID as.
trying to call me a grifter because i shared my experience but my conclusion doesn't line up with yours is hilariously sad.

i hate people like you. i just want to live my life but porn addicts and autistic morons are bundled up with me despite being completely opposite people. my life is objectively worse because you're trying to falsely argue that natural puberty is an ideology. you create an easy to hate idea of a person that is paired with me.
Anonymous No.941479218 [Report] >>941479459 >>941481423
>>941479113
I'm not a conservative, but let me answer your question, because lgbt ideology was shoved into everything, forcing them to care.
Anonymous No.941479459 [Report] >>941480277
>>941479218
"Everything" what? Movies? The TV? Instagram? Well, if you are an adult, you decide what you will see on screens.
Anonymous No.941480277 [Report]
>>941479459
Legislation, policy and sports too, you know things that people care about because they have a vested interest in it.
Anonymous No.941480402 [Report] >>941485136
>>941474407 (OP)
>What can be done about the state of modern men?
but your pic is of a woman?
Anonymous No.941481423 [Report] >>941481537
>>941479218
>because lgbt ideology was shoved into everything
as opposed to the cis straight ideology that is shoved into everything
Anonymous No.941481537 [Report] >>941481967
>>941481423
Your mean normalcy? Yeah, the norm will norm.
Anonymous No.941481967 [Report] >>941482241
>>941481537
you mean the "normalcy" forced by conservatives?
yeah buddy im not sure thats how that works
Anonymous No.941482241 [Report]
>>941481967
Okay anon, you think that.
Anonymous No.941485136 [Report]
>>941480402
A BEAUTIFUL woman, you fucking incel chud