Thread 941959670

So when do things get better? Is this better? Are things more affordable? Are jobs flourishing and increasing pay?

>>941959670 (OP)
That orange nigger lied to you

>2 million illegals deported, now about to massively ramp up with firings of ICE ass dragger bosses
>massive overhaul of EBT/SNAP/Section8 fraud will have long term economic benefit
>lack of WW3
>left wing media propaganda operations getting their ass handed to them on multiple fronts

VOTED FOR ALL, FUCKIN AY

>>941959670 (OP)
Start by explaining what your faggot numbers mean retard OP

>>941959882
>>941959882
We are entering a period of layoffs before any bubble burst. Thats the crazy part - mortgage .com, general inflation when markets were simpler...lay offs were the result not this. This is the oligarch class operating with no fear as the government now supports this behavior and they control the flow of information. Wild.

>>941959670 (OP)
HES GONNA BOMB THE HURRICANE VICTIMS TO THROW SALT ON THE WOUNDS

>>941960028
That people who have jobs are losing them because companies revenues are drying up as expenses rise and consumer confidence drops to all time lows? Meanwhile some companies who are positioned favorably and generally represent a very alite "not main street" skills set can also lay people off because of technology and zero effort to manage the shift by Republicans?

>>941959955
We know Democrats deported people but let many stay as they were processed. So has the Trump version made anything better? Serious question - I actually agree immigration policy needed and still needs more focus and disprove of systems like Europe.

>>941960270
OK, but the OP post does not indicate any of this 'information'
it just shits out unrelatable seemingly made up numbers

>>941959955
>300k deported, they estimate the rest "self deported" and were asylum seekers and refugees etc
>there is no overhaul to these and ebt is the card snap uses dumbass
>I don't think us invading Venezuela will be ww3 but it's certainly not peace
>right wing media is seeing a decrease as left wing media gets the trump boost again
Cope better

Shalom! Still voting Trump!

>>941959670 (OP)
when he closed the border, removed DEI from everywhere, and ICE actually do their jobs and go after illegals to deport them, and cleaned up DC

>>941959670 (OP)
2 weeks

>>941959670 (OP)
didn't you hear what he said before he fired another head of the bls? the reports are fake made to make republicans look bad. isn't that obvious to you that's what is really happening? ywnbaw btw leftist!

>>941960368
These numbers are headlines and widely reported. At best you can argue the underlying business benefits to the stock holders, but the numbers are not at all hard to confirm.

>>941959670 (OP)
>So when do things get better?
it's not.
this is what he was elected to do:
dismantle the us government.
destroy the us economy.

>>941960735
Yeah that was crazy and its led to the decline in real investment. No one trusts our currency or agreements so they give headlines but we see no real action. Shit Korea had a factory with Koreans teaching Americans how to make their product and we deported them...at best any agreement is just to let them back to exactly what they were doing. But they clearly are just gonna say anything to keep bases in Korea until Trump is gone. All these negotiations from Trump result in nothing real. Look around, no one can point to anything real.

>>941960462
I mean its such a crazy stretch to say replacing professionals with Instagram experts like RFK was some improvement...but lets go there. What is better? Where is anyones life better?

>>941961490
>replacing professionals with Instagram experts like RFK
do you have any idea who RFK even is?
and quote often these "experts" are just corporate plants put there by lobbyists and the corporations, the last people that should actually be in those positions, because they're completely compromised and don't have the interest of the people or the country

>>941961490
so removing harmful food additives that other countries already did years ago is now a bad thing?

>>941959670 (OP)
>Is this better?
Of course it's better. Who the fuck cares about jobs lmao, the important part was that big CEOs could earn more money and they're earning more money than ever.
If you weren't born Indian or Jew and you won't ever be one of those CEOs, it's your problem.

>Illegal niggers getting bussed back across the border.
Sounds better to me, boss.

>>941959670 (OP)
>fewer jobs
>but significantly more illegals deported and no longer competing for the remaining jobs
sounds like employability is going up, not down

>>941962172
Bizarre. You see real numbers from corporations laying people off. No mention or clear relation to immigration but that's all you can say. Farmers are losing sales becsuse Trump who is also helping Aegentina and Brazil take our market share, but its not not even about deportation. You seem really mixed up about the world but thats exactly how they like you.

>>941962286
>You see real numbers from corporations laying people off.
lots of tech companies that over-hired during covid, and are now getting rid of staff they don't need
has nothing to do with any administration or their policies

>>941959670 (OP)
Another engineered economic crisis.

>>941959670 (OP)
this is much better.
these are the unskilled low tier niggers getting laid off.
needed to happen.
now we need Trump to lay off a shit load of federal workers for the shutdown.

Also: I have lots of cash hoarded for when the poorfags start selling their shit on craigslist to make rent

>>941964588
your plan is to buy things from poor people, obviously used, probably low quality stuff they can afford?

you seem like the average trumpfag with your empty imbecilic head and cartoonish clownish evil

>>941962343
sure go ahead and
>believe whatever CEOs tell you
like a faggot
see if I care
lulz

>>941959670 (OP)
when r grocery prices coming down?

>>941959670 (OP)
>So when do things get better?
2029-2030
Is this better?
Presently, no.
Are things more affordable?
No. Prices continue to increase.
Are jobs flourishing and increasing pay?
Layoffs continue and wages are stagnant.

>>941959670 (OP)
What did these numbers mean, in your head, when you wrote them? Because we don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

>>941959670 (OP)
>>941960095
I tried telling idiots here his policies would cause a recession if not a depression but no one here fucking listens.

>>941960270
>companies revenues are drying up

>>941968337
This. Genuinely can't believe that a bunch of retards voted for a grifter who's best known for grifting.

>>941968400
>April

>>941960462
He hasn't closed the border and doesn't controlled private companies hiring processes.

Closer to UBI, this is all good news

>>941968424
Good job, you can read. Now read the rest of it idiot.

>>941968451
I don't think I should have to tell you this, but April was 7 months ago.

>>941968470
>>941968451

>>941968489
Maybe the issue is that you think things stay the same forever or something. 6 months is a long time in the economy. Things have not stayed the same.

>>941959955
>>lack of WW3
It's on its way don't worry. In the meantime I guess it's time for war with Venezuela, which is bizarre.

>>941959670 (OP)
2 million illegals have already either been reported or self deported, legal refugees was reduced to just 8,000 a year , we're going to fully end the leftist redistricting schemes to disenfranchise white voters, the stock market hit an all time high, and the military had a huge influx of volunteers. All wins to me.

Leftists are malding about it and shooting people while we deport their entire foreign born / illegal voting base. Vae victis commie scum

>>941968596
Delusion the post

>>941968596
Okay, but when are actual issues going to be addressed? Illegals aren't a concern, other than for farmers exploiting them as illegal labor, but nobody cares about them

>>941968596
Its not enough

>>941968574
>war with Venezuela
My money is on some kind of Libya style overthrow where we fund a bunch of militias or rogue military groups and bomb key targets for them to actually stand a chance.

It would help Venezuela if Maduro wasn't a complete loser who has like a 15% approval rate too

>>941968660
Illegals aren’t a concern for you but for trumps base they are a major issue.

>>941968596
No hotel workers though. We like the illegals that work at hotels. They're safe from ICE and can't be deported.

>>941968693
Whats the orange mans approval rating right now?

>>941968693
Don't really understand why we're bothering though, if you want to make a real difference on drugs go after Mexico.

>>941968703
No they aren't. It's just a way to trick stupid people.

>>941968703
That's because Trump's base is entirely retarded people

>>941968723
Trump doesn't care about drugs. That's why he smuggled in the Sinaloan cartel and made a deal with them.

>>941968772
Well his son needs coke

>>941968660
>Illegals aren't a concern
Your demographic warfare in fact IS a concern. Now we are deporting them, hopefully we overturn the dreamers and deport all of them too. Banning trannies from sports is great, revitalizing the military is great, getting all this foreign investment in industry is great (hence the stock market hitting an all time high) and the wider wave of conservatism and normalizing the deportation of migrants, illegals, and refugees is something the entire western world needs more of. It's nothing enough that just Poland and Hungary and more recently Italy have been doing it. It's all everything I voted for so I'm pretty stoked

They all have to go btw, hopefully we can deport communists next for being traitors

>>941968788
We have Pepsi at home.

>>941968798
Except the ones working at hotels, right? Those are the illegals we like.

>>941968798
Yea America first like give Argentina $40 billion!

>>941959882
>orange nigger

The year is 2025
you can now say 'orange nigger'
EVERYONE knows who you are talking about

THE FUTURE IS NOW
THE FUTURE IS SAD

>>941968798
>>941968829
Yeah! And fuck American farmers too!

>>941968798
>blah blah blah blah fox news nonsense
Kill the richest 10 Americans and you'll immediately fix more problems than you would by deporting 2 million illegals. But you don't approve of that because the republican party is the party of the jew

>>941968863
Mangione 2025-forever

>>941968842
>its 2025
Correct
>you can say orange nigger
You cry about people being nazis when they say nigger so no, apparently not.

>>941968845
Isn't that why Europe got mad over chickens? Cause America was good at selling it?

>>941968891
Yea dont call them nazis...

>>941968714
Higher than 15% lol, also I don't believe any of the stats that comes from the neo liberal owned mainstream media anyways. You're all liars to your very core , a culture of degenerate, deracinated psychopaths. You lied about Russiagate, you lied about covid, you lied about "muh 34 felonies" , you lied about Ukraine, you've been lying about crime rates and illegal, you lied about Charlie Kirk

At this point the only solution to you is force. Hence why we have the national guard and ICE going into your degenerate , drug polluted neighborhoods and tearing them apart like they deserve to be.

>>941959670 (OP)
This is a bait thread. If you went outside you'd know what you are asking is just you trying to bait.

>>941968798
Someone who actually has a life and works in America. Though you got baited by this thread.

>>941968972
How much higher than 15%? 2x? 3x? 4x?

>>941968845
>muh farmers!!!
>land cant vote!
>dumb uneducated rednecks are spreading the virus!!
Haha your cognitive dissonance is adorable.

>>941968972
>ate fox new propaganda for so long that the truth is now lies to you

>>941968993
Yea America first by sending $40 billion to Argentina!

>>941968893
What are you even talking about? American beef isn't being bought at all. American farmers are being undercut by importing foreign beef to lower the price. How stupid are you?

>>941968863
Completely and vlatantly ineffective. Luigi is going to be given life in prison or the death penalty and i garuntee that insurance company hasnt taken any financial losses due to it. But the group of spics asking for handouts at home depot that stand in my fucking way every time i have a cart of shit have disappeared and I see it as a net positive in my life.

>>941968972
>Russiagate
>Ukraine
>the only solution is force
And the Russian shill outs himself.

>>941968993
(Rich) farmers are trying to make you sympathize with them to give them govt gibs due to their retarded economic plan of growing stuff to sell to China after voting for a guy who promised to ruin all trade with China. No bailouts for retarded business decisions, I say

>>941968993
It's not land that's suffering, retard. It's farmers. People. Trump cut all the programs they rely on and how he's fucking them over on beef and soybeans. Two staples that the vast majority of farmers in America raise. You've never grown anything in your life.

>>941968532
>>941968451

>>941969019
>yeah!!!
Ok, so 40 billion is our entire nati9nal budget? Makes sense if youre a crybaby asshole just shouting shit...

>>941969055
sure whatever

>>941968972
You shouldn't believe the numbers provided.
Gupp stated, by the way I'm going to quote this because it's so fucking funny. Gupp stated, "In summary, accurately estimating the LGBTQ+ population is challenging due to the sensitive nature of the information, which impacts reporting. People who don't feel comfortable answering, or who don't see gender or sexuality as a defining part of their identity, are not typically included in the final count for that specific questions. This is standard practice in survey methodology and does not indicate and intentional attempt to manipulate the numbers."

>>941968723
>, if you want to make a real difference on drugs go after Mexico
He's trying lol, did you see all those mexican senators begging him to go in while accusing their president of being a traitor? Mexico needs to take a page from El Salvador unfortunately, our military won't fix all their problems they just need the courage and will to violently overthrow the cartels themselves. No whining about proper jurisprudence and human rights, just crack some skulls and start killing it you need to.

We know it can be done. Mexico has allowed the rot of narcos to fester because it is spiritually polluted , if they want to solve one they need to solve the other.

>>941969055
Lol no he isn't. Mangione is going to walk free.

>>941969088
Is Argentina apart of the United States of America? No? Please explain this new America first policy to me like im libtard

>>941969099
No he isn't. He's smuggling in cartels and making secret deals with them. You fell for it again.

>>941969096
Hahahahahaha
so they didn't take answers from anyone over the age of 40? Probably not anyone working or in a government job either

>>941969071
Not how farming works in the US. In order to receive federal susidies the farms are required to be owned by an entity the government deems important enough to national interest to receive those subsidies. Such companies as Post, thats how commodities work. Youll understand one day.

>>941969554
no gibs for you farm, cletus. go fuck yourself

>>941969554
That didn't used to be true. Before Trump there were tons of farming programs available to any size of farm. That's why all the farms are closing now and being bought up by corporations.

>>941969083
Nigger im pointing out your blatant hypocrisy. You hated these "farmers" when covid was around, hated them when the 2020 vote occurred, and now you "feel bad" for them. Fuck off shill, its pretty obvious you never gave a fuck and just argue in favor of the "new thing" like a worthless faggot.

>>941969107
Hahaha ok kid.

>>941969622
I've never hated farmers, you projecting retard. That's why I voted against the guy who hurts them when he's in office.

Why do you hate oxygen so much? Don't you know you need it to live? I'm just pointing out your hypocrisy that I completely made up based on nothing at all.

Fucking retard.

>>941969406
Omg the president is a hypocrite!?!?! Color me shocked.
Name a single fucking US president who didnt bullshit their way into office. Now explain how this 40billion is any different from 40 billion in the last administration considering the president, no matter what they say, REPRESENT THE US.

>>941969639
No, really. The state bungled his case so hard there's not really another option. Mangione lives to Mangione another day.

>>941968863
>>941968863
>Kill top 10 richest Americans
>The top 10 - 20 richest Americans get more money , top 1% shifts what it owns a bit
Hahahahah socialists are so fucking stupid. Hierarchy is the law of nature by which we always organize around and it's why every single commie movement becomes a hierarchical hyper violent nightmare. Instead of Elon Musk you get Beria. Instead of Donald Trump you get Stalin. Instead of a the 1% you get the 1 party bureaucracy insiders. Etc etc. You're never gonna "eat the rich" you're going to bootlick the new ruling class while they lie about how liberated you are for serving them.

Communism is a mental disease that needs to have its teeth placed firmly on the curb and stomped. You're a delusional freak and I hope some neo Nazi rapes you in a prison some day

>>941969616
Right, corporate hegemony, as I fuck8ng said
And its been happening since the mid 2000s, go talk to people in nebraska about urban crawl.

>>941969678
How about the Americans he's starving and the farmers he's out out of business? You think 40 billion might help some of them out?

>>941969678
>be the America first party
>run on America first policys
>bails out non Americans first chance he get
>maga cultists, "this is what i voted for"
Bahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

>>941969099
I agree Mexicans want it, but I don't see him trying - all you list off there is Mexicans hoping he'll try.

>>941969672
>muh purposeful spacing format
Nigger any real farms that feed your ass are just fine, you are a child who doesnt understand how commodities work but love ringing the bell for anything because "orange man bad", the economy isnt collapsing and the shelves are more full in grocery stores than 3 years ago. Suck a dick pussy.

>>941969706
>I'm a 7 year old little girl
But totally not mentally ill obv

>>941969697
No really, hes going to prison and youre high as fuck if you think otherwise. Got proof of your claim?

>>941969773
Kek

>>941969733
How many more americans are starving than where last year? How many farms have shut down that produced enough food to actually make an impact? These all seem like measurable claims but i garuntee you cant back them up.

>>941969809
>we need to reduce ranch8ng because of the methane gas
>not muh heckin ranchers!!!
Kek indeed

>>941969773
No, you're thinking of corporate farms. You have no idea what's happening in your own country because you don't care about farmers or anything you aren't told to care about.

https://washingtonstatestandard.com/2025/04/06/usda-cuts-hit-small-farms-as-trump-showers-billions-on-big-farms/

https://investigatemidwest.org/2025/10/29/trumps-deportations-are-causing-farm-labor-issues-he-hasnt-presented-a-viable-long-term-solution/

https://www.npr.org/2025/10/16/nx-s1-5575115/farmers-trump-trade-war-china

Now tell me more about how you don't know any farmers and have never grown anything in your life.

>>941969809
>>941969678
Problem is that Javier Milei is basically Argentinian MAGA - he's Trump's bro, and he puts his friends above the wider American public

>>941969872
Those maga ranchers seem upset about this new nonAmerica first policy the maga america first leader is pushing

>>941969802
https://abcnews.go.com/US/luigi-mangione-new-york-state-case-court-appearance-friday/story?id=119008079

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn83151z0xno

Not long now.

>>941969426
And there you go lying again. Do we need to deport you to El Salvador too? Tactically deploy the National Guard to personally pepper you up? They placed El Chapo's family into witness protection - for ratting because we got them all dead to rights. We're shutting down their human trafficking, we're bombing their collective trade networks, we're getting Mexican senators to beg for an invasion and overthrow of their traitor commie president. And we're also deporting all the illegals they use to traffic shit and blend in this also attacking their market.

Mexico needs to solve this themselves and look to Bukele for the answers. Fuck human rights, fuck muh jurisprudence, just kill them or imprison them all into a little concentration camp and make sure anyone who continues with their narco bullshit is dead or getting raped in prison

>>941969837
Everyone on snap, and 50% more farms than last year.

https://www.hoosieragtoday.com/2025/07/15/farm-bankruptcies-2/

>>941969706
ok bootlicker

reminder that 90% of posts on the internet are bots and shills

>>941969893
Nigger corporate farms are the ones feeding your gay city dwelling ass, ma and pa farms come and fuckin go all the time. Live outside of the 4 blocks of shit heap youve spent your life in and youd understand. The media is always always always going to make it look like doom and gloom. Once the availability of groceries starts to suffer nation wide and more people start actually starving then i think EVERYONE is going to have an issue with whats going on. But since your fantasy isnt a reality nobody gives a shit that youre crying about weak businesses falling apart. Just like you had no heart about the businesses that shut down due to the riots that destroyed them due to pink ffloyd

>>941969926
Holy cope!

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/mexico-sends-26-cartel-members-deal-trump-administration/

>>941969906
Cool story

>>941969977
What percentage are well meaning but fundamentally ignorant / stupid

>>941969926
>They placed El Chapo's family into witness protection - for ratting because we got them all dead to rights
So they are protecting criminals, interesting

>>941969992
Why do you hate real farmers so much?

>>941960095
>$172 million
God you're all so retarded.

>>941970007
those posts are mainly your dumb family members on facebook who fell for the bot/shill posts

>>941969918
Who wouldnt be? I didnt say his doings where right, I just wont be drawn into the hype every time a small issue arises in a presidents policies, id be batshit crazy at the end of any presidency if i did that

>>941968765
From their point of view, you are retarded.

>>941959670 (OP)
I love how people get so assmad over this shit on either side. Find a hobby.

>>941969923
>its a slippery slope according to liberal news sources
Right and i garuntee the story is the opposite for conservative media. You should learn to average.

>>941970006
He literally said that if Javier Milei's party lost in the midterms he'd cut off funds.

>>941970059
>small issue
>new "america first" policy of giving Argentina $40 billion
So much for America first huh?

>>941969992
Corporate farms are all growing corn to sell for feed and soybeans to sell to chinks. They aren't producing anything that matters for americans. The ma and pa farms are the real niggas growing fruits and veggies that actually end up on our shelves, and funnily enough, they aren't getting fucked by the retarded cheeto's dumb trade wars. Remember, no bailouts for farms growing cash crops to sell offshore

>>941970069
This lol. Really nuanced take. Anytime you say the other side is all X or Y.. time to take a break from politics.

>>941970095
Exactly. 100%

>>941969992
Do you understand that corporate farms are why steaks are $30/lb? Farmers don't see profit from increases at the grocery store. Grocery stores who have vertically integrated farmland into their corporate structure see profit from increased prices. Have you ever even seen a farmer before?

>>941969018
>>941969067
>When the neo liberal propaganda hits
Topkek. Like I said, you're all damned traitors being propagandized by internationalist scum into thinking you're some kinds of revolutionaries. I'd pity you if I didn't know you need to die before you gave up on your backwards , cult like beliefs

>>941970094
>they aren't getting fucked by the retarded cheeto's dumb trade wars
Just getting fucked by cheetos immigration policies

>>941970094
>Imagine being this retarded
It's the small farms that are going out of business

>>941969964
> i didnt read the article i posted
Did you not read the fucking article?
>less than the numbers in 2019
Covid hurt more farmers than the BBB homie. This isnt the first round of this we have seen and things arent falling apart mr.doomsday

>>941959670 (OP)
who cares Kamala lost

>>941970138
Not the hotels though. We love illegal immigrants that work at hotels.

>>941969096
What the fuck. Really? No wonder I don't run into a single trans person going about my daily life.

Where is this 2 million deported number coming from? That's over 7k a day. I'm calling BS.

>>941970147
No, that is what the big farm lobbyists want you to think.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mD50nJzDFLA

>ITT: Orange man bad which means everything is bad
Small dick energy crowd is sympathinzing with the farmers they once claimed spread covid and should die.

>>941970166
I didn't vote for the stupid cunt either

>>941970005
>Nigger didn't even read his own link
Topkek look how desperate these guys are

>>941970134
Yes, we know you hate america. Fuck off, kike

>>941970162
Lol did you want me to do Trump's first term too? He's never done anything except hurt farmers and they were still feeling those effects during covid.

https://www.americanprogress.org/article/10-ways-trump-administration-failed-rural-america-10-ways-overcome/

https://civileats.com/2020/11/02/how-four-years-of-trump-reshaped-food-and-farming/

https://www.statesman.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/10/02/fact-check-did-trump-trade-war-lead-to-surge-of-farm-bankruptcies/42716789/

>>941970238
10 inch dick here. I voted for Trump. Not sure what dick size has to do with it. Also Straight White Male with 3 children.

>>941970225
Trump fired everyone who publishes statistics and replaced them with sycophants who are willing to lie for him.

>>941970263
Oh, did I post the wrong one. Here

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/sinaloa-cartel-leader-family-enters-us-deal-trump-administration-mexico/

He just loves releasing cartels members into the US.

>>941970268
There was less food on shevles during bidens presidency, so your standard of what farms are being hurt by him seems to lack any real pull. Like its been said already, ma and pa farms are not the once feeding your gay ass and dont pretend you ever gave a fuck about them to begin with, we arent fools.

>>941970277
Little penis, big claims.

>>941970277
This is the most small dick energy post I've ever read.

>>941970353
There was less food on shelves during donnys first term or did you forget about 2020 already?

>>941970347
Right, they just came in after a deal and walked about freely....nobody fucking cares that el chapos targeted family are being protected because they are ratting on all their constituents.

>>941970353
How stupid are you? Farms closing is the measure of farms closing. You don't just get to say "well we didn't buy as much foreign food so I guess farms don't matter"

What's wrong with you? How did you get this way?

>>941970225
I mean at one point some cretin in his administration (Pam Bondi) claimed Trump had just saved the lives of 258 million Americans via one drug seizure - reality has little to do with the numbers they throw out there

>>941970401
Yea the orange criminal certainly doesnt mind bringing other criminals into the US.

>>941970401
They did. Just like the thousands of illegal criminals he released because he violated their due process. That's why he went after Abracio Garcia so hard. It was to distract you from the real criminals he released.

>>941970379
No, there was less toilet paper. I dont recall ever having to buy individual apples at 300% markup because of the economy or failing farms.

>>941970420
Some prescription drugs will cost 1000% less!

>>941970451
TP and lots of other goods were harder to come by because shelves were empty. Thanks orange man!

>>941970460
Which I guess means you buy it and they pay YOU 900% of what it used to cost? Pretty sweet deal.

>>941970432
>>941970439
>muh criminals!!!!
Ice is still removing them regardless of how "illegal" and a violation of the "constitution" liberals claimed it was. Just sit back and enjoy the show, there isnt shit that crying on 4chan is going to change.

>>941970490
Lol no. You fell for it again.

>>941970485
No no...that was scarcity tactics. Go to school. What the fuck did TP have to do with foodstuffs?

>>941970490
Not at any hotels. We live the illegals that work at hotels, remember?

>>941970512
Fell for what? Im just here for the ride, you allowrd him to be president by not having a good candidate. Good job.

>>941970521
You mean panic buying and lack of supply? Thank cheeto man

>>941970487
Yes, if only it was true...

>>941970532
Completely retarded. After covid the majority of hotels stopped hiring full time cleaners and have 3rd party groups come in a few times a week. Your argument is very moot.

>>941970548
The propaganda. He said "hey look over here at my left hand" and you didn't notice what he was doing with the right.

I'm surprised so many people fell for the bait. Shows you how fucking stupid they are

>>941970548
>you allowed him
That's not how any of it works

>>941970578
Trump is excepting illegals that work at hotels. ICE isn't allowed to go into hotels. Why do you think he did that? I'm pretty sure it's because we stand with hotel workers as a nation and not for any other reason.

>>941970562
No, scarcity tactics, please learn how shitty bussiness practices occur during heightened times of fear brought on by the media. Please, explain to me why toilet paper was ever a thing during covid considering there was never a claim that covid was going to have you shitting your brains out and the only people who made a shortage claim was Bounty and it was temporary but the media jumped on it like flies on shit. Haha, just like you disengenoous fags about trump...youre boring.

>>941970582
I never paid attention to what was in either hand...again just enjoying how mad it makes everyone. Go outside sometimes.

>>941970656
>please explain
Panic shopping and disruptions to supply lines...because covid. Was that suppsoed to be hard?

>>941970592
>not voting is a vote for trump
I like the convenient memory holeing you like to do.

>>941970656
It's because all the retards who fancy themselves preppers have no idea what they need to survive, but they've watched enough TV to know that they don't want to run out of toilet paper. You must be a newfag or you'd remember all the threads of retards posting pictures of their toilet paper towers.

>>941970621
You lost me, whats your point?

>>941970675
Ah, you're a useful idiot. Did you know that the world would be better off without you?

>>941970694
Seems like your non vote allowed him to win...

>>941970693
>>941970701
>panic buying by the preppers
Aaaahahahaha you fucking retards are hilarious. Im good.

>>941970741
I see you were born after 2020?

>>941970713
Oh, nothing. I'm sure it's the unique perspective on hotel workers that was imparted to Trump by owning so many of them that convinced him not to deport any hotel workers.

>>941959955
>2 million illegals deported
Question, what has this actually done? It doesn't seem to have created 2 million jobs. It doesn't seem to have caused a downswing in crimes being committed.

>>941970724
>youre not how i want you to be and should die
See, same attitude you had toward farmers during covid but now you want me to pretend you care...its cute how retarded you all can be.

>>941970735
Good, i dont really give a fuck who our figure head is, i made sure my county taxes that wouod have raised my mortgage oayment stayed low by voting in the general elections which happen nov.4, please go out and vote for something that actually matters.

>>941970861
It is funny how maga farmers are suffering under maga rule.

>>941970861
You are the only person ITT that hates farmers. That's why you don't care about the farm closers. Come back when you've grown your first vegetable.

>>941970753
>panic buting isnt caused by scarcity tactics and the media
I see that youre being a faggot on purpose.

>>941970901
Now we are pretending potus elections dont matter, kek

>>941970758
Ok, so hes actually helping some of them and youre mad why?

>>941970924
Did the media also make the Evergiven get stuck?

>>941970921
The fuck are you talking about, I have a garden which is why farmers can suck my asshole.

>>941970924
Its almost like most people were at home shitting all day instead of at work. How could that ever effect TP stocks

>>941970935
Now we are pretending they matter. Kek

>>941970938
He's not helping anybody. He just doesn't want the illegals working at hotels to be deported. They aren't being paid any more or getting any additional benefits. Trump just decided that out of all the illegals in America, the ones at hotels were fine.

>>941970942
Is the panama canal the only shipping route to the US? Can planes fly? What was the evergreen carrying? What where the ships it interrupted carrying? Did we die?

>>941970957
I told you you were the only person ITT that hates farmers. I don't believe you, BTW. You've never grown anything in your life.

>>941970969
So nothing a potus does matters? Interesting take

>>941970964
Where they? I got covid and the vaccine and shit myself neither times, that only happens with the flu.

>>941970792
It doesn’t matter, he removed people who weren’t welcome and that’s an accomplishment in and of itself.

>>941970994
>Panama canal
>evergreen
Bahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

>>941970978
Ok. Why are you mad about it? Are you an illegal hotel worker?

>>941970994
Oh wow. Did you just compare shipping by sea to shipping by air? You don't know shit about shit do you? I hope I don't have to explain that other ships couldn't get around the Evergiven.

>>941971013
You dont ever poop at home while at home? Interesting

>>941970996
I dont really care what you believe, pretending to care about something is your deal.

>>941971023
>illegals are all criminal thugs that need to go
>illegal hotel workers are fine tho
Kek

>>941971018
>>941971035
>you have to be serious when you argue with me in a /pol/ thread on /b/
Haha nah. Trumps still your president.

>>941971023
Why would I be mad? We love illegals that work at hotels, right? That's what Trump said. All the rest of the illegals are bad hombres, but the ones at hotels can stay.

>>941971037
Nope, my poop is taken care of by an indian family from Dali

>>941971076
Thats a funny way to say youre wrong

>>941971069
If you say so. >>941971085
Stay mad.

>>941971092
Thats a funny way to say youre wrong

>>941971041
More projection? Why? We already know you hate farmers, don't understand politics, and have never grown anything in your life. That's more than I ever wanted to know about you!

>>941971076
>Maximum damage control

>>941971112
Why would I be mad that Trump isn't going to deport hotel workers? It's not like it's a conflict of interest, right?

>>941971112
Why would i be mad? Donny hypocrisy is funny. They are the law and order party hence why he pardoned J6ers and george santos. They are the party of family values hence why they voted for a pedo rapist who pays pornstars for their silence for sex they didnt have

>>941959670 (OP)
the main point is trump's a fag
like his dicklickers

Please stand by while the maga shill bumps his other shill threads

>>941971181
They're the party of fiscal responsibility, which is why they're causing a recession.

>>941971305
And remember America first means israel, qatar and Argentina too

>>941971325
And it means giving ICE all the FEMA money during hurricane season.

>>941971305
have this

>>941971325
America is actually last

>>941961723
Doesn’t he have a worm in his brain?

>>941971545
He killed it with Tylenol but now he has the autism

>>941971545
HAD
HAD a worm in his brain
It's dead now, but it did eat some of his brain
this is totally normal and he should be in charge of americas health decisions....

>>941959670 (OP)
His sons and cabinet are making money hand over first.

>>941971596
Yea why even pasteurize milk...

>>941971596
Did it starve to death

>>941959955
Based. Fuck troonocrats.

>>941968798
Stocks are at an ATH due to rate cuts inflating the economy retard. Been like this since 2021
The real economy is so bad the fed is considering changing how it gathers data.

>>941970901
Muni taxes and bond votes are rarely on ballot same time as general elections my larping friend.

>>941970792
Most of those weren't illegals just people who's status he revoked like hb1 and asylum seekers. Only 300k, maybe 600k by end of year were illegals

>>941971900
dubs
lols

>>941959670 (OP)
I thought we hated corporations. Now we feel sorry for them?

>>941971014
No, it isn't really.
If they are here, they are paying taxes. You don't buy items in the country without paying a tax on them. So if it didn't create new jobs, didn't lower the crime rate, and (this one is so crazy) raised the cost of goods because it displaced farm jobs, then it was a failure. There's no success in haphazardly displacing families that have been established for 10-30 years.

>>941972227
Or like right now, just stop gathering data because you don't like it.
>stick fingers in ears
>close eyes
>say la la la la over and over
>>profit

>>941972823
I mean we know job numbers methodology have been meaningless due to revisions. And 92% of our gdp growth is tech with most sectors seeing tepid to negative growth. Tarriffs, trade wars, and consumers purchasing tightening is all pushing us towards recession or stagflatiom we've had 2 rate cuts and job creation isn't bounding up but inflation is. That's not good.

>>941972754
>If they are here, they are paying taxes
How can you pay taxes if you don't have a SSN?
>buy items
You think local sales tax is going to the free healthcare the Dems are giving them?
Do you think this covers each illegal costing the taxpayer nearly $50k each year?
You're retarded. Stop simping for criminals.

>>941972998
Holy shit retard
TIN
Look it up lololol. All confidence no knowledge

>>941972998
>50k
You mean 9k with 14k hoursehood avg total, per a child. Now Google the average citizen tax burden.

>>941959670 (OP)
Add another 1700 layoffs from GM.
Also a lot of these companies are claiming they are laying off people because AI is taking their jobs but they are actually just outsourcing those jobs to poor countries.
Once again Trump's policies are a complete failure

>>941973123
>TIN
>b-but sales tax
Fuck off, fascist. Neither are enough for how much they leech.
>>941973186
>You mean 9k with 14k hoursehood avg total
No. If I meant that I would have written that.
It was $29k each a decade ago. Now with the debit cards and free hotels/dorms it's approaching $50k.

>>941973192
>Add another 1700 layoffs from GM
Is GM ever not circling the drain? They get bailout after bailout and can't seem to make a relevant product.

>>941973299
>gets caught lying saying can't pay taxes without ssn
>moves goalpost to they don't pay for themselves
I accept your apology for lying. Your numbers don't exist btw. I guess that's another lie. You can apologize now

>>941973429
Shut the fuck up, logfag. You've lost the other 139 times and you're not going to win now.

>>941973482
The false flagging doesn't work when you're the known trumptard
Now apologize to lying 2x to us good anons.

>>941972987
>92%
98% of percentages on the internet are made up on the spot.

>>941972987
Also, most of tech growth is due to a few companies, all of whoch are speculating heavily into AI.
If the AI novelty wears off befor it becomes useful, they'll have to come up with another tulip, like crypto currency to continue grow.

>>941973643
Not this one
Even Bloomberg and Forbes admit it has to be like 60% this year at an absolute minimum
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/without-data-centers-gdp-growth-171546326.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAABTC0Dwugy5jJUapcUPY0ytL9zMyjBEQ2SeeUx4gARTyzph-ZkBQ9CdphAxTZwwIdEmFE3EbK5CdB-BYoopJDnUIQRaT_8G7-Q6nOlJrc-OaPpjzXnHEFPrhqNR8mkxB2AGavQMEjbJtzEmcaNnRIyzT4dybSmQsWCa2eFyY4GI9

>>941973741
Yeah we are in a bubble. Hopefully it cools and doesn't pop but these 40% ytd growths are unsustainable
Meanwhile manufacturing and construction are.down.

>>941973822
All this for AI... who is paying for AI services outside of these same companies?
Anyone here?

>>941961181
>>941961313
rent free

>>941973949
At this point it's way overhyped. Llm are not the quantum leap even if they can be used very well. The more it's used the more.people realize it's not worth thr current cost to use.
Overvalued bubble

>>941960462
cleaned up DC how?
by having soldiers collect garbage?

trumptard idiots

>>941974255
NTA but apparently DC was quite dangerous before the deployment of troops there.

>>941974255
Trump won
You lost

>>941972998
>you need an SSN to pay sales tax
Retard.

>>941974348
>you need an SSN to pay sales tax
Never said that, buttfuck.

>>941974386
>How can you pay taxes if you don't have a SSN?
>Never said that, buttfuck.

>>941975404
>local sales taxes pay for Obamacare and SNAP
Get rekt, faggot.

>>941975484
Yeah, all that money from the W-2 jobs goes right in the trash, right?

>>941975813
>I get a W-2 for all the beer I purchased
dipshit

>>941975813
It doesn't go to municipal stuff anon

>>941975888
You've never had a job, have you?

>>941975899
You've lost the plot.

>>941975986
Make is make sense, fucknut.
If we need all these Mexicans to work below min wage to do the jobs Americans don't want to do (like wiping our asses, according to the left), then how are they paying taxes? They're obviously under the table. But don't worry, folks, they pay sales tax.

.

>>941976125
They work w-2 jobs, retard. Tax is withheld from every paycheck. You'll understand this when you grow up and get a job.

>>941976125
TIN. And sale tax

>>941976294
>They work w-2 jobs
Proof?
If we need them in farming because their labor is cheaper than the min-wage citizens of that area, then how are they getting a W2?

>>941976376
Same way everyone else does, retard. How do you think they work at fast food places?

>>941976437
God damn you're dumb. This has to be bait, and I fell for it again, logzi.

>>941976574
Which part is unbelievable?

>>941976768
The parts where you replied.

>>941959670 (OP)
two more weeks
it's still bidens fault
trust me bro

>>941976830
Lol cope. You're the one telling me my coworkers don't exist and that ICE hasn't been raiding fast food joints.

>>941976882
>You're the one telling me
I didn't say any of that. Fucking libshit liar.

>>941976961
Then you agree with me? What has this whole thing been about then? Are you just embarrassed that you were wrong?

>>941960348
>but let many stay as they were processed.

>We caught you red handed illegally crossing the border
>It is 100% obvious you are an illegal alien, but we are going to let you go for now
>Please show up to your court date a year from now
It was a fucking joke

>>941977177
Better than Trump firing all the immigration judges and not deporting anyone. You know that all of them are coming back, right? Due process is a bitch.

>>941976437
>>941976294
Then they can get proper work permits and come here legally. The government can work with the farmers to approve enough workers for the seasonal crops.

They don't have to be illegal immigrants. You people always intentionally conflate illegal with legal immigrants and pretend they are the same thing. Just because we need cheap workers doesn't mean we need illegal immigrants.

>>941977225
>not deporting anyone
Do you think a single person believes your obvious lies?

>>941977268
Lol you have no idea what you're talking about. Do you have any idea how much that costs?

>>941977301
Some people have "self deported" but the Trump administration hasn't deported anyone because they haven't been able to give them due process on account of the lack of immigration judges. They do have constitutional rights, you know.

>>941977328
>Do you have any idea how much cotton will cost if we free the slaves?
Democrats haven't been this pissed since the last time Republicans took away their slave brown skinned class of people. And last time also resulted in a civil war where the Republicans won and federal authority was established to overrule state authority. States need to abide by federal laws, such as immigration laws.

Cope and seethe faggot.

>>941977022
>What has this whole thing been about then?
Good question. It's like you invented an inconsistent scenario and ran with it again.

>>941977415
Trump wants $100,000 a head for work visas. If I have $100,000 then why would I give that to you to work for minimum wage?

>>941977416
Holy cope!

>>941977385
>They do have constitutional rights, you know

Illegally stepping over a border doesn't magically give you the rights of the citizens on the other side of that border, retard. They don't have constitutional rights.

Why aren't you ulset about Britain breaking the 2nd amendment rights of British people? Oh wait they don't have 2nd amendment rights. If they illegally travel to the USA they still don't have 2nd amendment rights. Legal USA citizens have constitutional rights.

>>941977268
>The government can work with the farmers to approve enough workers
Fuck that shit. Trump already flooded us with H1Bs and all we got are more low-skill, low value jeets and spics. I'd rather we focus on importing more kraut scientists and engineers, people who can build machines to replace the shitskin class while maintaining the majority white country this nation was founded on.

>>941977508
>No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED

>>941977385
>haven't been able to give them due process
They don't have due process. They're not citizens. Deporting them is an administrative action, not a judicial one.
>They do have constitutional rights
Negative.

>>941977591
Are you stupid? The fifth amendment applies to everyone in the whole world.

>>941977621
Sarcasm?

>>941977663
I hope you were being sarcastic. I'd hate to think you didn't understand the difference between an American citizen and a person.

>>941976376
You can be illegal and pay taxes. TIN read up on it

>>941977694
No amendment applies to the whole world. They only apply to US citizens.

>>941977464
>>941977415
I'm still waiting for you to explain to me why I should spend $100,000 to work a minimum wage job.

>>941977726
Cool story.

>>941977508
The 5th to 8th amendment is written to cover all persons on us soils. All.

>>941977464
The cotton gin made slavery obsolete. Automation can make human crop pickers obsolete. Modern robotics have vision systems that can identify things like fruit on a branch and gently pluck them with soft rubber fingers. We don't need immigrant crop pickers anymore.

I literally work with robotic vision systems. I spent hours last week programming a custom medical robot to locate test tubes in a rack of tubes and gently pick them up and move them where they need to go or discard them after reading the barcode.

Image recognition systems are advancing every fast. A few years ago the argument was that robots can't operate in the complex visual environment like a field and randomly shaped branches and locate the produce. That isn't true anymore.

>>941977741
Good point. Stay in your own country with a rich culture.

>>941977734
Lol no. Everyone in the world is covered by the 5th amendment. If you're swedish then you get to invoke the fifth in any American court. Are you illiterate? Read this line to me.
>No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

>>941977792
I thought illegals could just immigrate? I thought they didn't need to be illegals? What happened to that argument?

>>941977797
>in any American court
Ah, what about a Swedish court?

>>941977777
Uh huh. I've seen fruit picking robots for decades, but next year is the year they finally catch on, right?

>>941977830
What argument? Just stay the fuck home. We're full.

>>941961756
It's retarded to point to one good thing and be intentionally blind to all the bad things, like ignoring science so other countries can take over where the US used to be the world standard.

His antivaxx rhetoric and Tylenol causing autism, praising the brain worm is like praising cancer because it helps you lose weight

>>941977840
The American constitution doesn't apply to swedish courts. Do you think that immigration hearings happen outside the US? You might be stupider than I thought.

>>941977765
>I am from another nation
>I legally entered your nation
>Now you can't deport me (even though I am in direct violation of your laws)
>You have to pay for my medical costs and give me housing
Fuck you

>>941977873
This one >>941977268

The one you abandoned when you realized it was a stupid argument.

>>941977911
>The fifth amendment applies to everyone in the whole world
>The American constitution doesn't apply to swedish courts
Which is it?

>>941977937
Not me.

>>941977936
Are you okay?

>>941977936
>legally
God damnit
Meant to say illegally

>>941977947
Do you think a court is a person? You really are stupider than I thought.

>>941977777
checked. UBI when?

>>941977965
Great. You still abandoned the argument.

>>941977936
This. Part of being a legal immigrant is not being an un-American scumbag. I wish they enforced this more often.

>>941977983
So if Fluergen is walking down the street in Stockholm and the police start questioning him, he has the right to stay silent?

>>941978008
You asked a question.
I answered it.
There was no argument.

>>941978085
If the officials harassing him are Americans then absolutely. You seem to be conflating the institutions bound to the constitution with the people to whom it applies. I really don't think you should need the different explained to you.

>>941977864
Why not subsidize the costs so farmers can implement them? We give incentives for things like people buying electric cars. I would rather my taxes buy farmer Bob a robot than have more illegals sucking up taxpayer money.
>Noooo that would make food too affordable!

>>941978110
Cope harder.

>>941978189
Because Trump cut all the farming programs and now all the farms are closing. On the bright side, the corporate farms will probably buy your robots and then sell the fruit for $20/lb in their grocery stores.

>>941977756
Yeah it's called reality try engaging in it once in a while.

>>941978250
TDS

>>941978176
So if an American moves to Sweden and become a cop, the person they're harassing is protected by the 5A?

>>941977936
>you enter illegally
>you get due process if caught
>a state can decided to provide some services as the people decide
What's the problem faggot? You hate rule of law? Or just democracy?

>>941978348
Here you go. Next time try looking things up for yourself.

https://washingtonstatestandard.com/2025/04/06/usda-cuts-hit-small-farms-as-trump-showers-billions-on-big-farms/

>>941978323
>it's called reality
You're not even on topic, logzi. That seems to be your reality.

>>941978414
Log everytime you falseflag it's apparent. You are the trumptard. Everyone has figured that out.

>>941978372
If they work on the embassy then absolutely. How stupid are you? The constitution guarantees that the US government must grant you certain rights. The rights in the 5th amendment apply to every person. That's every person in the world, not just US citizens. Everyone in the world is guaranteed certain rights when dealing with the US government. Illegal immigrants are guaranteed due process by the 5th amendment of the constitution. If you still don't get it then you aren't American and you hate our freedom.

>>941978385
Due process is a hearing where you have a chance to prove you are a citizen. It is pretty fucking simple.
>What is your SSN or other form of ID?
>Who were your parents?
>Where where you born and where is your birth certificate?
Maybe 0.01% of people have legitimate reasons they can't answer those questions but are legal citizens. They can make their case. But if you can't provide this basic info you should probably be deported.

That is due process. You are just intentionally weaponizing the system because you support illegal immigration.

>>941978533
>If they work on the embassy
But if they don't, the harassee is still protected?

>>941978385
>you get due process if caught
Go figure out what this actually is. It's not a big court hearing like you're probably imagining.

>>941978613
If the cop works for the US government then yes. You still don't get it which proves that you aren't American and you hate our freedom.

>>941978595
Huh? Focus bot
No one said they get to skirt due process. What some people want is a path to asylum for those who have been here and been good. That is different than what you are tryingnto imply
Anyone caught gets due process and that's that. But trumps not always followed that has he? That's where people turn on him

>>941978655
Yeah it's an immigration hearing. Fair enough. I am not for skirting this to mass deport. Due process is due process.

>>941978655
5th amendment, retard.

>>941978655
They think every immigration hearing should be a trial with a jury and take weeks. It is ridiculous. It should take someone 30 fucking seconds to say
>Here you go, here is my documentation proving I am a citizen

I lost my social security paperwork before. It wasn't hard to get replaced. I just had to bring some paperwork like utility bills and my student loan paperwork and answer a few details like who my parents were and where I was born. Got a new social security card that easy. The argument that poor people don't have that information is not a valid argument.

>>941978847
This is a strawman
People here are saying fine deport but follow the law. That's all. If you have a problem with that and state they don't have constitutional rights you're going to he called out. Simple.

>>941978847
Ridiculous strawman constructed to justify depriving people of their rights.

>>941978760
>Get pulled over for speeding 100 in a 70 zone
>But officer, I always drive this fast
>Why are you just pulling me over today?
They were always violating the law and criminal every single day. Often dodging taxes and commiting identity theft. They were never "good".

I was looking up if illegals can pay taxes and one of the argument you faggots often use is
>Well they are usually paying taxes through the fake identity they used to get their job
>So actually they do pay taxes!
As if identity theft makes their illegal status OK.

>>941978897
>>941978903
Stepping across the border doesn't magically give you constitutional rights. Fuck off.

>>941979109
No, the constitution does that you un-American fuck.

>No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED

>>941979034
>still strawmanning
>illegals can get a TIN. Any non citizen can get a TIN. Then they can get a paycheck and pay taxes. It's not identify theft that's the system. They only need to provide a name and some sort of documentation they are in the us.

>>941978702
>If the cop works for the US government
No, he's an American in Sweden working for a Swedish government.
I'm just following your logic here.

>>941979109
Actually yes it does faggot.

>>941978781
>Due process is due process
Sure, but all it takes is a passing "you have documents to prove citizenship?".

>>941978842
Yeah, now go find what is required for due process to occur for an illegal.

>>941979316
No you aren't you're trying to insert your own twisted logic. Every agent of the US must obey the US constitution which applies to everyone. Every illegal immigrant has the right to due process because of the 5th amendment. Are you illiterate? Read it out loud, slowly.

>No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

>>941979398
They have to be accused of a crime by the US government.

>>941979374
Yeah you get a court date and the judge can grant more time etc if you have a valid excuse why you don't have papers. It's due process. Why is this an issue?

>>941978847
>I just had to bring some paperwork like utility bills and my student loan paperwork
You have to do a lot more than that just for a realID.
The "poor people" argument the left like to throw around is hilarious. "Black aren't smart enough to use a computer". "blacks can't afford to get to the DMV", "blacks can't afford to get a license". It's amazing blacks vote for Dems at all, the way they're insulted every week.

>>941979149
>>941979318
Wrong. You have to be in as a resident. The Constitution doesn't cover you touching one foot over the line like touching base in baseball, therefore you're now untouchable.

>>941979684
Broh you are so fucking wrong lol
https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/artI-S8-C18-8-7-2/ALDE_00001262/

>>941979417
>you're trying to insert your own twisted logic
Kek, me?
You said 5A protected every person in the world.
I asked about other countries.
You said a Swedish man is protected from an American cop.
I asked about an American being a Swedish cop.
You said a Swedish man is still protected.
You brought up the embassy for some reason.

>Every agent of the US must obey the US constitution
There you go. The Constitution, or parts of it, don't cover everyone in the world. Their location matters.

>>941979684
You're not "untouchable" you're just afforded protections of the 5th amendment and through 8th, and 14th, with some limitations as decided by our courts.
Please read the constitution or SCOTUS briefs before speaking of the laws, you'll look less retarded.

>>941979466
Like being an illegal immigrant?
Of course they do!

>>941979487
>Yeah you get a court date
Only sometimes. Some places just have tons of people asking question about citizenship and it's done in a minute.

>>941979937
And as long as it follows due process no problem right? And if they wish to appeal they have the right too correct? Doesn't mean they'll always get it but there will be a process and that's the right thing to do.
Good we agree.

>>941979753
>Certain procedures, such as expedited removal, allow for faster deportation without a full hearing before an immigration judge for those apprehended near the border or shortly after entry (generally within two years). Even in these cases, however, individuals must be screened for asylum claims or other potential legal relief, which provides a form of due process.

You can't just sprint across the border 20 feet from a border guard, get caught, and get the full due process. You get asked a few questions by the guard and you're sent back. This also applies at ports of entry, where technically they're on US soil.

>>941979879
>You're not "untouchable"
I meant in the deportation sense.

>>941980237
And that's part of due process
You still have 5th amendment protections
You are allowed to prove you ha e citizenship or legal status before deporting
Why are you so determined to ignore very clear laws here? They get some constitutional rights, you're wrong earlier.

>>941980001
Did you see somewhere where I said they don't get due process?
All I said was that it's not necessarily a full court production but can be as simple as asking for citizenship then removing them as an administrative action.

>>941980371
You claimed here
>>941979684
>>941979109
You're not afford these rights. Not our fault you made retarded claims

>>941980305
>And that's part of due process
That's what I'm saying. You or some other anon was acting like you get your court date to state your case in front of a jury or someshit. Unless it's a more complex case that needs the full court proceedings, it can be a simple few questions.
>They get some constitutional rights, you're wrong earlier
I think that was another anon.

>>941980451
I was one of those anons and yeah, I typed that in a profoundly shitty manner and I didn't mean it in that sense. I've been arguing with anons who think an illegal apprehended at the border gives you a full trial like it's the OJ Simpson case.

>>941980505
Maybe you jumped in at a weird time
Regardless most Americans are fine as long as rights are respected. Whatever rights they have
It's the mass deportation before hearings to countries that aren't even their origin while teargassing kids that turns most Americans off these polices. Not some strawman "poor browns boohoo" that's a strawman created by Republicans to hadnwave their own unpopular policies.