Thread 942124957

Here it is, /b/ros. Will NYC be fucked in the ass by a Mudslime communist?

Mamdani will win and the only repercussions will be Trump trying to punish NYC by stripping funding. Mamdani is, at most, a marginal step to the left for NYC and that’s if any of his proposals even get off the ground.

I can't wait for Zohran to be the best mayor the city has had in decades and watching people desperately try to nuh-uh him for years

wtf i thought this shitskin couldn't win, you all told me he wouldn't get half as many votes as cuomo

Cuomo's gaining ground.

>>942125302
>you all told me
Kek, I said something like "NYC is so fucking retarded and full of terrorists that Mamdani will probably sweep".

It's official. This country has fallen to woke jihadi muslim communist liberal

>>942125948
So, an improvement.

>>942125948
>communist liberal
if only you were less retarded you might understand how fucking stupid you are

>>942125615
Not enough to matter tbh

>>942126039
No, just no
This is a tragedy on par with the fall of Byzantine to the Ottomans from the central steppes

>>942126262
It's really not

>>942125253
what policies will he enact that will make nyc great again? i think the only thing that can fix nyc is a great cleansing fire, failing that, someone tough on crime and corruption. mamdani is none of those.

>>942124957 (OP)
Why are conservatives backing a discraced democrat cuomo over the republican candidate?

>>942124957 (OP)
I'm just glad that insufferable faggot Cuomo is gonna lose, Muhamdani will be deported soon anyway lel.

>>942126262
amerishits really think they compare to either of those

>>942124957 (OP)
hahaha

we won

you racist slimebags

go fuck your cousin

>>942126339
>make _ great again!!

Okay, now try again.

>>942126375
because vidrel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bigZ1fmwD-Q&

>>942127197
what? can you answer the question instead of deflecting?

>>942126385
where do you deport an American citizen to?

>>942126339
I was looking through his platform and it's atrocious. Fewer cops, more crime, higher taxes, rent control... it's all madness and proven failures.

And there's this vague shit like "fighting corporate exploitation", which includes:
banning non-compete clauses
end corporate handouts (whatever that is)
funding challenges to utility companies.
fight misleading advertising (whatever that is)

It's all fucked.

https://www.zohranfornyc.com/platform

>>942127154
>we won

>>942127276
Sounds great. You sound like a scared faggot.

>>942127331
What part sounds great?
Why would I be scared? I'm in California. We're already on this path of destruction.

>>942127255
No I just want you to make an argument that doesn't involve slogans, but I can tell you've already been stunlocked by that

It is called, Mamdani wins!

>>942127276
This sounds pretty good to me

>>942127276
You understand it better than most. I never thought I'd ever vote for a demoncrap but there I was proudly voting for Andrew Como and to save a woke hellscape like New York City from more 9/11

>>942125948
Cry more nigger

>>942127425
What part sound pretty good? Every one of these is working against the residents.

>>942127375
So you've never even had to talk to a NYSEG operator, then? Why do you think anybody should care what you have to say about this?

>>942127476
How?

>>942127440
>I never thought I'd ever vote for a demoncrap
If I were in your shoes I think I'd do the same. It's not looking good.

>>942127476
Taxes are good, actually, especially if the rich have to actually pay them

>>942124957 (OP)
Nah, the worst that'll happen is you'll all laugh at them when he cancels the Pride parade

>>942127508
Nothing in his entire platform betters the city or it's residents. I guess you may consider higher taxes fair to pay for Laquixha's 9 children, but I don't.

>>942127569
>Taxes are good
The bootlickers aren't even ashamed anymore.

>>942124957 (OP)
I'm curious to see what happens when Mamdani fails to deliver. Will he just blame republicans? or will he slip the truth that no business wants anything to do with government run socialism?

>>942127440
>save a woke hellscape like New York City from more 9/11
Yeah you're not wrong.
The Jews might do that again out of spite for this

>>942127606
Billionaires don't have a right to exist.

>>942125253
Yeah, this is almost verbatim what was said about Chicago's socialist mayor.

>>942127626
Finally someone who understands like OP that I am right. As someone who studies the communist lies we've been made to learn I say it's almost certain that there is another leftist rerrorist attack killing up to more people that 9/11 killed like Charlie Kirk

>>942127609
I heard an analyst, don't remember who, talk about what will make or break him is crime. NYC knows how good and how bad it can be, and if crime is bad, he'll get no slack. I'm not a New Yorker but it makes sense.

You know it will never be his own fault. Has any socialist ever admitted his policies are failures? I'm sure it will be Trump or nazis or racists or something.

>>942127720
Cool story. Why do you want to give a corrupt government more of your own money?

>>942127609
what happens to your precious feelings when he succeeds
what he has proposed is rather modest and realistically achievable which is raising taxes on the wealthiest and using the money to pay for buses and childcare
that's what you really hate, how simple "tax billionaires = expanded services for the rest of us"

>>942127720
They must exist. Unless you want to live in a shithole like Kazakhstan. You don't understand the value titans of industry bring to the economy. You'd rather redistribute their "wealth" so Lakeisha can pop out 5 more kids

>>942126178
All communists are liberal, dipshit.

>>942127778
Why do you want to give corrupt billionaires more of your own money?

>>942124957 (OP)
>Mamdani
>Cuomo
>Sliwa
those names...

>>942127809
Wrong as usual poltard.

>>942127799
kazakhstan has six billionaires

>>942127799
Yes, actually, that sounds like it would do more good for people than not

>>942127273
Naturalized citizens can have their citizenship revoked under certain circumstances. They would be deported to their country of origin.

Billionaires exist because they take on risk and are rewarded with stakes in valuable entities, which create jobs and the industry itself. Take away their billions, means selling off their shares, which would devalue the company, creating a catch-22. They don't actually have billions sitting in a fucking bank getting devalued by inflation. Hell they don't even pay cash for their mansions. They borrow. You don't know how any of this shit works.

>>942127779
>when he succeeds
Not him. Most of the things he wants to do have already been tried and failed miserably. The only way he can succeed is if he doesn't follow through on his promises.
>tax billionaires
That's how you get billionaires to leave your city. I swear NY and CA are trying to become flyover states.
Besides, it's "raise the corporate tax rate" and "those earning above $1 million annually—a flat 2% tax", not billionaires. Say what you want about millionaires, which isn't that much, but corporations are everyone: tire stores, restaurants, dentists, clothing. You think they're just going to eat that? No, you'll be paying for it.

Literally punishing the people that make the city operate.

>>942127820
Never said I did. I don't even think about billionaires.

>>942127809
This

>>942127871
Cope harder. Communism is hard left ideology, aka liberalism. To be fair, communism is liberalism on steroids, but its all cancer anyway so not point splitting hairs. Communism requires larger overarching government that is liberally applied. Not my fault you're retarded

>>942128081
If you think liberalism is leftism, I have a bridge to sell you in Brooklyn.

One thing I will give commie libs is that they are right about capitalism. But they are absolutely wrong about communism. Dozens of failed states are proof. Capitalism is the best we've got for now.

>>942127894
What are you left with when the wealthy and the businesses are closed and gone? You have higher taxes on the lower class to pay for the free shit, and there's no returning.

>>942127809
Exhibit A in why the United States is officially over

>>942128121
And yet liberals and leftists wonder why normal people think they're stupid...

>>942128121
You don't have a bridge to sell dipshit leftard

>>942128206
wait i thought it was over

>>942124957 (OP)
Please define the difference between Communism vs Socialism for us.

Thank you

>>942128235
fucking kek

>>942128236
89% tallied, but yeah, it is.

>>942128235
I got these trump shoes nigga
you give me the $200 then in a few years you will have your shoes from me, your favorite shoes-on-layaway president

>>942127872
6 oligarchs you mean. Name one self-made Kazakh billionaire

>>942128081
Reading retarded Americans be confused on politics is the funniest shit. You got brainwashed so bad into bad definitions that none of it means anything to you anymore, you’re just thinking blue vs red.

>>942124957 (OP)
This is day one of people's protracted war against capitalism! Rise up, proletarians!

>>942127276
He's not getting rid of cops faggot

>>942127276
>banning non-compete clauses
Pretty sure those got banned federally during the Biden admin

>end corporate handouts (whatever that is)
Obvious what that is; retard.

>fight misleading advertising (whatever that is)
Obvious what that is, retard.

>>942128537
He's creating the Dept. of Community Safety. Basically another ICE. He's going to recruit a bunch junkie social workers to violently de-escalate violent situations.

Nah jk, it's just going to be yet another money sinkhole that does jack and shit.

>>942128537
He's defunding NYPD, dismantling swat teams, and creating a "behavioral health emergency assistance response division" that you can call when you do need the police, but not the police, on the phone.

>>942128426
shieeeet name one self-made billionaire you can't because a billion dollars represents an economic value that one person can't personally create on their own

>>942128812
A billion dollars is nothing

>>942128710
my state has this, except it's like a social worker or psychologist who goes with the cops on calls involving mental health and it's been very successful, big drop in violence against and perpetrated by law enforcement

>>942127839
Arab, Italian, Polish.

>>942128843
shut up retard

>>942128587
>Obvious what that is; retard.
Really? Is it like giving Amazon a tax break for moving to the city? It doesn't say bailouts, are those still allowed?
>Obvious what that is, retard
Is it? Isn't all advertising misleading? Is a Calvin Klein, muscly guy, underwear ad misleading? What does a non-misleading ad look like? Just a can of salt with the word "salt" next to it?

>>942128812
Technology

Elon Musk – Built PayPal, Tesla, SpaceX, and several other ventures from scratch.

Jeff Bezos – Founded Amazon in his garage; revolutionized e-commerce.

Bill Gates – Co-founded Microsoft; became one of the richest men in the world.

Mark Zuckerberg – Created Facebook while in college.

Larry Page & Sergey Brin – Created Google as a university project.

Michael Dell – Started Dell Computers in his dorm room.

Reed Hastings – Co-founded Netflix and disrupted entertainment.

Business & Investments

Warren Buffett – Self-made through value investing and Berkshire Hathaway.

Ray Dalio – Started Bridgewater Associates from his apartment; one of the largest hedge funds globally.

Carl Icahn – Self-made investor and corporate raider.

Oprah Winfrey – Rose from poverty to become a media mogul and billionaire.

Sara Blakely – Founded Spanx with $5,000 in savings; became the youngest self-made female billionaire.

Startups & New Tech

Brian Chesky & Joe Gebbia – Co-founded Airbnb with minimal startup funds.

Jan Koum – Immigrant who co-founded WhatsApp; sold to Facebook for $19B.

Evan Spiegel – Co-founded Snapchat in college.

Patrick & John Collison – Irish brothers who co-founded Stripe, the payments company.

Industry & Energy

Li Ka-shing – Rose from humble beginnings in Hong Kong to dominate real estate and infrastructure.

Gina Rinehart – Built upon, but massively expanded, a small mining business into a global powerhouse.

Roman Abramovich – Built a fortune in oil and industry after the fall of the Soviet Union.


Would you like me to narrow it down — for example, self-made billionaires under 40, or female self-made billionaires, or from a specific country (like the U.S., China, or Europe)?

>>942128025
You only pay for it when it's not tariffs? I'm okay with paying marginally more, if that actually benefits my country.
For some reason, Republicans aren't about supporting Americans and American Families, instead they have to see the way they will personally benefit, and they'll forget how much they did after they've used those services.

Not really moving anywhere.

>>942128193
Oh yes, you're definitely not brainwashed. Look at how you casually disconnect liberals from "normal people" as though no normal people are liberal.

>>942124957 (OP)
He's not a communist you absolute retard.

>>942128871
In that case, I really hope it works. But c'mon, this is NYC we're talking about.

>>942128960
I'm not okay with paying for tariffs either, and I'm not okay with paying anything more because it's like lending money to a junkie. A junkie that has control over you.
>if that actually benefits my country
That's a really big if. What does NYC have to do with the country?
>Republicans aren't about supporting Americans and American Families
Why, I mean, where the fuck did this idea that the government needs to take care of you become so... automatic? They are unable to help anyone. They can not actually help you. All they can do is steal from you and give it to someone else.

It's over. Enjoy what you voted for, New Yorkers.

>>942129140
>What does NYC have to do with the country.
I'm not even sure how to engage with someone this retarded.

>>942129061
Not yet.

>>942129185
If Mamdani burns the city down, what do I care here in California? It'll be just another Detroit.

>>942129162
The irony of this will be palpable as Donald Trump does everything he can to try and punish New York for this decision.
Pls come back and blame Mamdani after Trump's hissy fit.

>>942129140
>Why, I mean, where the fuck did this idea that the government needs to take care of you become so... automatic?
Welcome to the 21st century. It's nothing like the old days where you were expected to have a sense of self-responsibility and self-determination.

>>942129239
Fucking Trump... already making excuses.
No one cares about Trump.

>>942129140
>Why, I mean, where the fuck did this idea that the government needs to take care of you become so... automatic?
People like you should be sent to death camps and made to perform backbreaking labor until you waste away and die. Digging holes for burying the skeletons of rich people or something.

He's either like most Democrats and promises the sky and deliver jack shit, or he will actually try to implement his terrible ideas and destroy the city.

>>942129246
It's fucking disgusting.

Welp, now I gotta buckle up and see how this Prop 50 gerrymandering turns out.

>>942129226
>If it burns down, how would that matter?
Dude, California's most profitable Metro is 700 BILLION dollars less valuable than NY's most valuable metro.
I'm not certain how that alone doesn't make you uneasy.

>>942129267
>Trump won't do anything he explicitly promised to do.
Ok anon

>>942129313
Fafo reds.

>>942129246
you're losing your mind over a 2% tax on marginal income over $1,000,000 a year
and you probably suck cocks for minimum wage

>>942129307
You want me to die because you think you're entitled to my property?

>>942129327
I don't care. Why should I be uneasy?

>>942129342
>Trump won't do anything he explicitly promised to do
Like the Epstein files? How many promises does Trump actually deliver on?

>>942129307
>People like you should be sent to death camps and made to perform backbreaking labor until you waste away and die
Petunia growers and knitting class teachers like yourself will be the first against the wall.

Please replay that horrifying shit. We’re going to heaven with gorgeous bitches. Gorgeous. Horrifying.

>>942129246
>It's nothing like the old days
Which were horrible, objectively and measurably.

>>942129372
you aren't making $1,000,001+ a year in NYC and won't be affected
I think you're entitled to pay taxes levied by society or go somewhere else of your choosing like Somalia or similar libertarian/ancap utopias

>>942129371
That's $20,000 anon, on top of what they already pay. This country runs on the wealthy and you hate them and want them gone for some reason. NYC would be sent to the stone age overnight if all the $1 million+ earners suddenly left.

>>942128958
>PayPal, Tesla
musk had nothing to do with the formation of either of these

I bet you think he has a physics degree too

>>942129372
If you own more than one dwelling or your possessions were acquired by being a capitalist parasite, yeah.

>>942128983
HE CAN STILL WIN

>>942124957 (OP)
>>>pol

>>942129575
>cherrypicking
He actually did have a part at the roundtable at these.

But go ahead and ignore the dozens of other examples posted.

>>942129446
Usually just the ones that involve attacking Democrat states. Hence my question.

>>942129526
Everyone's affected, dumbass. From the top down. The poor will be hit the hardest, and there will be an increase in the poor if he puts his $30 min wage in action.

>>942129563
>This country runs on the wealthy
what do the wealthy produce?

>>942129581
>a capitalist parasite
Kek, you don't even fucking know what you're talking about.

>>942129595
see >>942129162

>>942129674
The economy. What do you produce?

>>942129631
>>cherrypicking
literally started at the top of the list retard

>>942129684
I'm like 80% sure he means someone who parasitically profits off of the work of others under the guise of being an "organizer"

>>942129674
Literally everything, from planes to clothes to computers and phones to cars to food.

>>942129663
>if he puts his $30 min wage in action.
WTF. LMFAO no way. What the fuck is min wage in NYC now?

>>942129723
>still ignoring the rest of the examples
>still not cherrypicking

>>942129710
>The wealthy produce the economy
Holy shit what a non-answer.

>>942129702
it's a maymay you cancerfag

>>942129710
where do I buy this "economy"?

>>942129724
>someone who parasitically profits off of the work of others
Others that voluntarily trade labor for money? That's not being a parasite. Imagine a time where you don't need employment, just the wealthy owning robots making goods for the poor.

>>942129771
It's the simplest answer for a commie simpleton

>>942129728
>The wealthy produce cars and phones
Nope, all of those jobs are held by people making below 600,000 dollars a year. They wouldn't even be on Mamdani's radar

>>942129311
Like trump then?

>>942129728
>from planes to clothes to computers and phones to cars to food.
wage workers make those

you're literally brainwashed

>>942129803
>all of those jobs are held by people making below 600,000 dollars a year.
Employed by said fucking billionaire pigs

>>942129777
>where do I buy this "economy"?
You buy it every fucking day

>>942129684
I know exactly what I'm talking about. Capitalists and landlords are parasitic; they gain income merely by possessing something and charging a fee to others to make use of it, rather than earning an income through the fruits of their labor.

>>942129839
Why do we need the billionaire employer? What if, instead, the business was owned collectively by it's workers?

>>942129803
You can't be this retarded.
>>942129821
>wage workers make those
Not when the owner of the building/division decides it's too expensive there so he pulls up stakes and moves out. Then $0 becomes the min wage.

>>942129793
No, it's literally NOT an answer.
The economy measures production, so when you're asked "what does x produce" and you say "the thing that includes production" you're not saying anything.
For that matter, NOBODY produces the economy. It's an affectation of the social system we use to exchange goods and services.

>>942129888
Kek no. Collectivists would run it into the ground. It's been proven time and again.

>>942129762
cherry picking implies I went through the list and selected the most retarded examples
perhaps it's entirely coincidental that you put the most retarded examples at the very top
I am under no obligation to read your retarded list of retarded examples of the beginning is so profoundly retarded

have a nice day, retard

>>942129915
>Kek no. Collectivists would run it into the ground. It's been proven time and again.
Actually, the opposite is true. Worker cooperatives are less likely to go under than business firms owned by capitalists. They also have happier employees, better paid employees, and much smaller gaps between the least paid and most paid employees. On average, of course.

>>942129947
>I am under no obligation to read
evident

>>942129904
>You can't be this retarded.
Pls explain why there needs to be a CEO when shareholders make the decisions through board vote? Why does there need to be a board when there's already high level employees?
The whole intent with the stock market was that you could sell shares of your business venture in exchange for money in the short term that you could use to grow and pay back the shareholders in the long term. Profit was implied, but not required, because eventually if a company is worth more, interest would dictate a higher payout for the original shareholder.
The concept of a mass of shareholders holding board positions over businesses and making choices that specifically profit themselves over the interests of the business is an entirely new concept.
This is what YOU don't understand, retard.

>>942129973
Doesn't work at scale. You're dreaming if you think behemoths like Amazon and Microsoft can be run by the employees all being paid the same for the same amount of work. You are fucking deluded, man. It will work for a fucking coffee shop, IF, big fucking IF, you can get the landlord to agree to terms. But a titan of industry like MS or AWS will fold under commie libby workers.

KEK imagining a worker collective opening a datacenter.

>>942130247
>Doesn't work at scale.
Prove it.

>You're dreaming if you think behemoths like Amazon and Microsoft can be run by the employees all being paid the same for the same amount of work.
Maybe they can't. Why is that a bad thing? They could be broken up into many smaller companies. You seem to be implying that the existence of massive international corporations is a DESIRABLE thing, which is pretty astounding to me. Are you deepthroating Jeff Bezos right now?

>>942130247
>IF, big fucking IF, you can get the landlord to agree to terms.
I believe that 100% of landlords should be outright killed.

>>942130339
>Why is that a bad thing?
Because you would kill innovation. Simple as.

>>942130355
>Because you would kill innovation.
How so? You think that innovation can only come from giant corporations? Strange idea.

>>942130393
Yes. Behemoths fund innovation. Where the fuck do you think UNIX was invented? Runs half, if not all, the fucking servers you use to post your commie bullshit.

>>942130443
>Yes. Behemoths fund innovation.
The government and smaller businesses can also fund innovation.

>Where the fuck do you think UNIX was invented?
Why do we need billionaire pedophiles to own everything to invent an operating system? Prove that only a giant corporation could create UNIX. This is a new bootlicker argument I haven't seen before and I want to see how retarded it gets.

>>942130561
>prove the negative
go fuck yourself, commie shitlib

>>942130581
Argument won.

>>942130354
I believe that you're a poor irresponsible rentoid GED owner.

>>942124957 (OP)
Lol businesses are gonna abandon ship and reheadquarter in FL in DROVES. NYC will collapse under its own bullshit without any corporations to use as its personal cookie jar, and the NE is gonna look like the rust belt in a decade. Good luck you faggots, you're gonna need it.

>>942130393
You think innovation can ever come from central planning? Even stranger idea.

>>942130802
>You think innovation can ever come from central planning?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Soviet_inventions

Next.

>>942130354
Loooooool I bet you can't get up off the couch without getting winded and your knees popping like goddamn fireworks, faggot.

>>942130847
Ah, yes. We shan't forget https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hexagonal_chess#Shafran's_hexagonal_chess

Brilliant.

>>942130874
Okay? You're just imagining stuff about me because you disagree with me. It's extremely juvenile.

>>942130900
Now you're waffling about because your central point was immediately refuted.

>>942130847
Holy shit you really just posted that u ironically didn't you jeeeesus fucking christ lolololol

>>942130936
Knight to quad4. Your move, commie.

>>942130755
nah and it's sad to see you coping

>>942130955
Not an argument. The Soviet Union invented things and had a centrally planned economy, disproving the claim that centrally planned economies cannot produce innovations.

>>942130992
Keep dreaming. Soviet Union is the closest you ever got to a commie utopia and it was still a genocidal murderous regime. Of course, that's actually the point.

>>942131047
Whatever lol idc anymore

>>942131096
Argument lost. Bye, commie.

>>942124957 (OP)
Fuck all Republican cunts and anyone still supporting Traitor Trump. Kys.

>>942131119
what is communism?

>>942131224
Trump is an israeli owned shill cocksucker. And commies are deluded retards. I don't know which is worse for America.

>>942131375
Nothing is worse than Trump, the israeli camp faggot acts and whines like a dipshit 12 year old in all his "Presidential" statements. He doesn't respect the office he holds and doesnt care to respect the Constitution.

>>942130755
Florida sucks tho and only caters to boomers.

>>942131745
Florida is garbage. Banning books like nazi snowflakes.

>>942131745
I mean if you paid the slightest attention to business trends at all you'd know that corporations have already been flooding FL, and more specifically Miami, because of considerably more lax regulations and taxes, for years now. Whether that's a good thing or a bad thing is a different matter entirely, but corporate expansion has been unprecedented down there already, and many banks, companies, and prominent business leaders have indicated that this election could push an alarming amount of NYC's legacy business down south. It's not a left or right thing, and sorry if it upsets you to hear it, but it's just the reality of the situation. New York is gonna have a lot of rough water to navigate economically in the very near future.

>>942124957 (OP)
>>>/pol/ is best for this low quality slop.

>>942132115
Your mom is best for some low quality plop, it's why we love her.

The tears flowing from the Guardians of Pedophiles are very salty

>>942125615
>Cuomo's gaining ground.
lulz

what is going to happen to the major aquaduct project?

>>942129563
>This country runs on the wealthy
No, it does not. It's easy to conclude that when you misinterpret the data (as you've done). The fact is that the highest earners are collecting more wealth as a percentage of total wealth than everyone else. Of course the poor are paying less as a percentage of total taxes paid.

You're a stupid person for not being able to interpret that graph correctly, or deliberately withholding information that would otherwise explain it. Either way, you should leave here, or at least never post again, so that the rest of us aren't polluted by your mental deficiency.

>>942124957 (OP)
soo underwear subway day is cancelled?