Thread 942451340

This nigga thinks you're stupid.

>>942451340 (OP)
If you believe democrats in any capacity concerning their opposition, then yes, you are immensely stupid

>>942451537
no u

>>942451537
>U BALEEB DEMOCRATS
>literally posting something Donald Dipshit himself said
This has to be a russian
No one's this fucking stupid

Why not just release the files?

I voted for Trump, but this is getting ridiculous. I don't even think Trump is guilty of anything in the Epstein files. I just think he is completely owned by the Jews and the Jews don't want the Epstein files released. It will expose how Israel isn't our greatest ally, but instead a hostile state that holds many of our representatives and elected officials hostage with blackmail. Epstein Island was an Israeli blackmail operation.

>>942451697
>literally posting something Donald Dipshit himself said
I'm aware? I'm replying to the op with the context of trumps post you idiot

>>942451754
As much as I despise Trump, I also see no reason to believe he is a pedo. He's a scumbag with scumbag friends.

>>942451340 (OP)
Which party sent everyone home, instead of negotiating an end to the impasse?
Which party holds ALL THREE BRANCHES of government?
Which party has deferred to the "Unitary Executive" mythos, despite the Founding Fathers creating checks and balances to avoid exactly this kind of top-down control of the United States?

If your answer is "Democrats" to any one of these, you have Daddy's Cock In My Mouth Syndrome, a terminal form of stupid.

>shuts down gov to avoid epstein vote that would prove he's a pedo and not just someone named thousands of times in evidence.
someone is shitting himself, but he's also terrified the Epstein vote is going to pass
kek'

>>942451754
>Why not just release the files?
Why bother release them? What do you expect to actually happen if they do?

being a cuck for a president isnt really being in a place of power, tbh.

>>942451960
>he ran on a promise to release them
>he forced FBI to remove any mention of him
>it took DAYS to do so with overtime
it would show the country that pedos cannot hide

>>942451802
So OP is a democrat? And you're inferring that from what? Only democrats think Trump is a retard? Demonstrably false. What are you? A republican that is predictably falling for the pathological conman's con?

>>942452038
>he ran on a promise to release them
No he didn't. He was asked in an interview if he would, and he said yes with an asterisk. Bongino, Patel, and Bondi were the ones hyping it up.
Trump ran on border security, the economy, and government corruption

>>942452162
>border security
Half-measures or demonstrations only. Fail.
>economy
Tanked. Fail.
>government corruption
He adds more every time he's in the office. Fail. Fail. Fail.

>>942451340 (OP)
People say he had the Best Scores ever on the hardest Cognitive test ever known. That's what they say.

Thank you for your attention to this matter.

>>942451754
Israel is a fucking US colony you fucktard. If it disappears the US is fucked in the middle east.

>>942452162
>...Ignores Qanon, and pretends nine years of "StIcK 2 Da PlAn" didn't happen...

>>942452135
>So OP is a democrat?
Could you tell me where I said op is a democrat?

>>942451960
I'm sorry, is it some extremely difficult or costly process to release them? Is there some hidden benefit to withholding them? Because he and his team have sure put a shitload of effort into not allowing their release.

>>942452208
I don't care what you think he failed at, I'm telling you what he ran his campaign on. Are you actually retarded or a bot?

>>942452238
He didn't run on qanon, see above

>>942452228
>If it disappears the US is fucked in the middle east.
Funny shit considering Israel is pulling most of the evil bullshit in the middle east. You thieving aparthied izies should be driven into the med.

>>942451537
Okay. If you say so. Now, release the files.
>>942451960
>Why bother release them?
>What do you expect to actually happen if they do?
We'll know the truth.

>>942452162
>he said yes with an asterisk
he what

>>942452358
Oh you mean empty promises to idiots who think like he does? Cool story bro. Stay deluded.

>>942451340 (OP)
To be fair, so does this nigga.

>>942452384
Israel is very nice with muslims. If Israel disappears, China will take care of middle east, and they don't like muslmis at all, you won't like it.

>>942452288
>is it some extremely difficult or costly process to release them?
I don't know, I don't care. I'll ask again, what do you expect to happen if they are released to the public?
I'll tell you what I think. I think half of the country is going to believe it's fake or altered if trump is compromised on it, and I think half the country is going to think it's fake or altered if he isn't. I think none of the people committing crimes in that case are going to face any actual repercussions for it, at least not anyone who wouldn't be used as a scapegoat. I think if the case were 100% laid out on the table for the public tomorrow, even if all the proper evidence were collected and still intact, nothing substantial would realistically change. So what's the point? There are other things to worry about that will actually change the outcome of this country, unfortunately, and only about another year, maybe 3, to work on it

>>942452437
>We'll know the truth
Ok, and what then? Can you even be certain you'll actually know the "truth"?

>>942452665
>what do you expect to happen if they are released to the public?
>>942452437
>We'll know the truth.
That's what I think. You seem to think otherwise, and that's fine.
>nothing substantial would realistically change
So, why not release them?
>So what's the point?
Shutting up the people who wants them released, thus clearing Trumo's name.
You still fail to adress that one question; why NOT release them?

>>942452499
>yes*
He didn't say he would dump the files when he campaigned, he actually said he probably wouldn't.

>>942452568
Bot reply fuck off

This board is sooo weird lol. political current affairs debating mixed with naked bitches and porn.

>>942452861
>what then?
Trump can claim his name cleared.
>Can you even be certain you'll actually know the "truth"?
Now we're getting epistemological, aren't we?
See:
>>942452895
>why NOT release them?

>>942452638
I'm a white guy in the US, foreskin felcher. Go club some palies and steal their farm.

>>942452927
So, he said yes but he didn't say yes he said no but with a yes with a *?
lol k this some next level contortionist shit brah

>>942451340 (OP)
The entirety of the US still believes the democratic and republic parties are trustworthy. Are you so deprived of human interaction that you think humanity is some hyperintelligent species? They rely on google, youtube and no actual research to operate. They only read headlines and make that their ideology.

>>942452949
Welcome to 4chan, newfag. Please leave.

>>942452927
>if it speaks ill of my spray tan daddy it's a bot
beep boop useful idiot fuck

>>942452949
Thats what is most stimulating besided hard drugs. /B/ is for the hyper lazy addicts who never do research into anything.

>>942451804
Walking into the dressing room of Miss Teen USA. Owning Miss Teen USA. Having a swimsuit round in Miss Teen USA. Joking about time will tell if his infant daughter will have her mother's tits. Telling a 12 year old they'll date in the future. Only nonces behave like this around children.

trump is a pedo and all trump supporters are either sociopathic racists or <70 IQ brainlets incapable on critical thinking.

>>942452358
His people ran Qanon. He soft-ran on it.
Just like he absorbed the Proud Boys as his own personal army.
Don't be disingenuous.

>>942451960
>Why bother release them?
Because bare minimum blackmailed politicians need to be relieved of power to bring in people not blackmailed.

>What do you expect to actually happen if they do?
It would force the state to respond. The only appropriate response is something equivalent to the Nuremberg trials. Without that appropriate response? Probably riots and a revolt, if I had to guess.

>>942452228
It's the opposite. Control the money, control the country. We wouldn't even have the muslim extremism if not for Israel deposing the PLO by funding the religious sects that would later become Hamas. I mean if you look at the old photos of places like Iran and Iraq before the intelligence agencies, you'd see a people that looked quite similar to our people. Women out and about, not covered up, very liberal looking societies, albeit I'm sure with islamic quirks--not perfect.

The point is it's much difficult to sell NPCs in the west on the idea of ethnic cleansing if the people being cleansed are like them or seem like good, innocent, people. If you can instead cultivate the good, innocent, people into orcs? All of a sudden the proposition is more palatable, even if it's still detestable. Moreover, if they can be orc-ified, so can we. Double moreover, if cultivation leads to orcification then cultivation can go the other way too. Why don't we create allies? Oh, that's right, we want their land. Aww shucks.

>>942452895
>You still fail to adress that one question; why NOT release them?
I did, I don't think there's any point to it and there are other things that need to be focused on with limited time to do it. You're essentially just asking to deal with a bunch of bureaucracy to know whatever "truth" the bureaucrats see fit to tell you instead of pursuing 10 other goals which have a better chance of actually bearing fruit.

>>942452976
>Trump can claim his name cleared
You know that's never gonna happen lol be for real, the government hates him. That's why "innocent until proven guilty" used to be an integral principle of the country

>>942451340 (OP)
Thanks, OP. Going to make another Epstein thread on /pol/, now. Thanks again for the inspiration!

>>942453031
Kinda, yeah. You can look up what he said.

>>942453257
>Because bare minimum blackmailed politicians need to be relieved of power to bring in people not blackmailed.
Not gonna happen. Sorry to break it to you, but stuff like this doesn't work out like it does in the cartoons.

>>942453486
>Without that appropriate response? Probably riots and a revolt, if I had to guess.

>>942453078
You're a shill then? Either way, you're trying to steer the discussion from issues his campaign was run on to how many goals he accomplished in your opinion. I'm assuming nobody here is stupid enough to fall for it?
>>942453200
Oh, *his people* now...
Sure...

>>942453611
You're the only person arguing about the complete non-issue of his vapid campaign promises. Nobody else.

>>942453710
This >>942452038 >>942452162 is where the discussion began.

This >>942452208 is where you started to derail it for some fucking reason. Goodbye now bot

>>942453813
>you're a bot you're a bot ree ree ree
You can keep saying it until you're red in the face but it just makes you look like a paranoid schizo.

>>942453554
>Sorry to break it to you, but stuff like this doesn't work out like it does in the cartoons

>>942453856
The Battle of Athens is not a cartoon.

>>942454151
How many riots were there over a congressman sleeping with a chinese spy? How many over a former president openly groping, smelling, and flirting with children on tv?
I very strongly doubt what you are suggesting to be a likely scenario. It's more likely to be swept under the rug and forgotten about. In any case, as I said earlier, there's other things to worry about right now as well over just the epstein case. I agree that it should have been released and the government should be transparent to be clear, but that is one of those issues that I believe to be more trouble than it's worth by now

>>942451754
It's about securing prosecutions and witness cooperation. Trading small fish for big fish.

You really think that if all of the worst things the Democrats have accused Trump of were true, and they've known about Epstein since the 90's, that they wouldn't have released the files during the Clinton Administration, the Obama Administration, or the Biden Administration?

After Trump usurped Dem plans in 2016, particularly pissing them off with their hopes of a first female president sure thing, why didn't Obama sink Trump is they were so sure the files were so damning? Why didn't they sink him before he ever got to be President Elect the first time? If the Epstein files are the silver bullet the screechiest feminazis think they are to Trump, why not nuke him with it before his second win?

There's a bigger picture at play here that regular dumbdumbs don't get to know about yet. Favours are most certainly being traded, deals are getting made, offers of immunity are getting talked about. If the entire Democrat apparatus ACTUALLY had a sitting president dead to rights on pedophile and rape charges, they'd pull that trigger and make Watergate look like a polite misunderstanding. There would be congressional hearings until the end of the century. There would be military tribunals. People would be getting blackbagged. Dems don't wait until Republicans control the House, the senate, Congress, the Oval Office, have the popular vote and the will of the people to whine about thirty year old water cooler gossip that's unsubstantiated for no reason. If they ever had the files, or copies, they'd keep every Xerox machine in DC running 24/7 to stick stacks of them on every windshield in town. Every media outlet would have copies. Every blogger and streamer would have copies. If they had him, and truly had him, they wouldn't be crying about redistricting and gerrymandering. They'd be coordinating assassinations and renditions.

>>942451340 (OP)
your president is a blackmailed pedophile, btw

do with that information what you will

>>942452605
>>942451340 (OP)
but is this good for Israel??

>>942452664
I'm convinced Evagelion is real

>>942455919
Braindead retard.

>>942455807
/thread

>>942455944
you have no idea what's happening, do you?

The vote will happen....

>>942451340 (OP)
Dems deflecting on how they won every single election last week, NYC, VA, NJ, CA prop50..

god is this boy pathetic
bet he will start a war the moment the house vote to release the Epstein files comes in

>>942456279
And basically every Republican will vote against it and Trump will sue to stop it.

Donkeybros, what are we going to do?

>>942456546
Doesn't matter, ANYONE who wants to run again HAS NO CHOICE but to vote for this or have no future political career. It's is expected most republicans will all simultaneously jump ship when the vote comes. They have a word for it in politics, but I can't remember what it is.

>Being on the voting record protecting pedophiles is a death sentence...

>>942451537
If you believe republicans in any capacity concerning their opposition, then yes, you are immensely stupid

>>942456738
Two drastically different groups, don't draw a false equivalence. That said, a lot of republicans are fucking retards as well, but 90% of democrats are outright corrupt

>>942456712
Yeah this is going to be interesting, I wonder if it will break Trump's hold over the GOP. Rs already know he can only hurt their reelections.

>>942451340 (OP)
Trump supporters are stupid. They are statistically stupid, actually.

>>942457447
>They are statistically stupid, actually.

>according to our statistics, that the same covid "science" came from.

>>942455108
>How many riots were there over a congressman sleeping with a chinese spy? How many over a former president openly groping, smelling, and flirting with children on tv?
We're talking about the Federal Government being controlled via blackmail through ties to Epstein. This is so far beyond 1 bad actor.

>I very strongly doubt what you are suggesting to be a likely scenario.
Internet is sanitized. Sentiment on the streets is that there is too much corruption to vote out. It is only a matter of time before this powder keg explodes.

>It's more likely to be swept under the rug and forgotten about.
None of us are forgetting the Epstein files. None of us.

>In any case, as I said earlier, there's other things to worry about right now as well over just the epstein case.
Nothing else matters. It is the single most important issue of our lives.

>I agree that it should have been released and the government should be transparent to be clear
I don't believe you.

>but that is one of those issues that I believe to be more trouble than it's worth by now
It is the only trouble worth bothering with.

>>942457501
Proving his point.

20,000 pages of files released!

>>942451340 (OP)
>Your zionists are bad but my zionists are good
I'm not sure what's funnier, MAGAshills acting like Shareblue trying to do damage control or leftoids trying to take the moral highground over kid fucking

>>942457578
23,000 pages and the only thing we learnt was that a 15 year old girl said epstein had a tiny dick.
no wonder he killed himself.

>>942457528
>We're talking about the Federal Government being controlled via blackmail through ties to Epstein. This is so far beyond 1 bad actor
That's not just just one bad actor, that's two of the most egregious examples of government corruption and degeneracy that were responded to with barely a couple of glances.
>Sentiment on the streets is that there is too much corruption to vote out. It is only a matter of time before this powder keg explodes
I agree. I think, however, people are much much MUCH more complacent in this day and age than they would have been in the past, as evident by my previous examples. A very sizeable portion of the country thought an election was stolen from them also, and there was one major protest. We aren't at a point where the powder keg explodes, we've been boiling frogs for 70 years.
>None of us are forgetting the Epstein files. None of us.
The news cycle would think otherwise.
>Nothing else matters. It is the single most important issue of our lives.
That is a very naive perception at best. Do you think the government's only been corrupt since epstein? It's displayed corruption since before epstein was even born. This is only the thing until the next thing comes along that is the most important scandal in history.
>I don't believe you
I don't care whether you believe me or not. Your opinion on my opinion is as irrelevant to my life as I assume mine is to yours. Believe what you want.
>It is the only trouble worth bothering with
Until nukes are dropped and the world is ended because the politicians got too busy infighting and kneecapping each other to notice all the European and Asian nuclear powers are going to war with each other or some such thing. Or better yet, imagine the future where americans are still controlled by a pedo mob, but the mob decided the constitution and other founding documents were overrated after Trump got fucked because he was busy worrying about the epstein situation instead of his other business

>>942457540
>you

>>942458709
Your logic is so twisted.

>That's not just just one bad actor-
I literally said that this is so far beyond just 1 bad actor, and in the fits of your fever dream you managed to imply that I implied otherwise. Take the pants off your head and go back to 4th grade reading comprehension, pseud.

>- that's two of the most egregious examples of government corruption and degeneracy that were responded to with barely a couple of glances.
And perhaps if not for the blackmail there would be more than a couple glances, anon.

The rest of your diatribe is not worth wiping off the bottom of my shoe. "It's only in the cartoons where the people rise up and do things!!1" except when it happens IRL too.

I'm sick and tired of paid shills running demoralization to stop the release of the Epstein files.

>>942453126
Remember when Trump fondled and pinched a 10 yearold girls nipples on stage during a press briefing?
Oh wait.
That was Biden.

>>942460725
>Take the pants off your head and go back to 4th grade reading comprehension, pseud.
I was responding to your response to my examples, but sure.
>And perhaps if not for the blackmail there would be more than a couple glances, anon.
These politicians own the media dude. Shit gets buried not just because of blackmail, but because people's jobs and income are on the line as well.
>The rest of your diatribe is not worth wiping off the bottom of my shoe
Yeah yeah, whatever.
>I'm sick and tired of paid shills running demoralization to stop the release of the Epstein files
I'm not a shill, and I'm not trying to stop it. I wasn't stupid enough to expect it to happen in the first place, and I'm still not. I don't know if you're some kid who's new to this game or what, but at some point you gotta realize this is chess, not checkers. There's other things to worry about, and if there's no government willing to prosecute the corrupt, exposing them ain't gonna do shit. Especially when you have a society that idolizes porn and video game addiction, and celebrates being fat and taking hrt which is both unwilling and unable to do anything about it

>>942451340 (OP)
drumpy is a pedo

Pedo drumpf

>>942452038
He didn't. Trump's orbiters are retards who believed Trump's shit and didn't think he was a pedo and see the very obvious connections. Again, this nigga was friends with Epstein and Clinton for fucking years.

His orbiters over promised this and Trump hoped his cult of personality would shut it down, but it's the one thing that keeps coming back and he can't shake off. Now, the next vote is being put off for another week so he can convince his party to vote against, or bomb the fuck out of Venezuela and try to get people to forget

>>942451340 (OP)
He's right, though.

>>942451754
I'm starting to wonder this myself. It could implicate the real architects behind the current destruction of the USA. Peter Thiel, Elon Musk, and other rich assholes.

>>942464419
A criminal on many levels

>>942451340 (OP)
to be fair, most of them are

^

what is Trump hiding? I thought he was supposed to drain the swamp. instead he is growing it lol

would love to hear from any Pro-Trumpers who are defending blocking the release of epstein files

>>942471642
>le why didn't the Dems release it under Biden retort

>>942471732
Hakeem is right. "Pedophile Protection Program"

>>942455807
Very cool analysis my man, now release the files.