How do you explain evil people? Are they soulless, possessed?

>>22804790 (OP)
Usually I just call them women desu

>>22804790 (OP)
Hurt people hurt people.

>>22804790 (OP)
Sin begots sin.

>>22804790 (OP)
Literally everything is genetics.

>>22804790 (OP)
Everyone is evil. It just comes out in different ways for different people. Perhaps if you were put into certain situations then you would "snap" and commit an evil act. Boom you are now a "bad person" according to the general public, but in a vacuum you are no different from anyone else.

>>22804790 (OP)

>>22804790 (OP)
They're soulless...like most Asians and niggers, and spics. All Jews and Indians are soulless.

>>22804790 (OP)
irrelevant time wasting question

>>22804790 (OP)
>How do you explain evil people? Are they soulless, possessed?
Socrates got it right. They're just stupid.

>>22804790 (OP)
Judaized.

>>22804790 (OP)
thanks, anon.
i will now racemix with the asian.

>>22804790 (OP)
Evil people are most of the time mentally ill.
A sane person cannot be evil. He cannot harm the innocent.

>>22804793
This. We are all so soaked in sin that we could never escape it without divine help.

It's up to us to accept that help.

>>22804790 (OP)
lust provoking webm

>>22804790 (OP)
This one looks like kinda fertile.

>>22804797
Everybody has a soul, wigger.

>>22804799
Please, explain like Socrates would.

>>22804790 (OP)
God is real but that doesnt mean he is a babysitter or infallible

>>22804795
This. It's the fallen nature of man.

>>22804802
This

>>22804790 (OP)
The are human.
That same evil lives in all of us.

>>22804802
"mentally ill" is a made up concept to sell medication at usurious prices.

This whore should be burned

>>22804794
Yup yup exactly this. Its why all Latin-esque countries are ass with money, and the indigenous majority ones are so violent. Genetics has already decided these people would be prone to violence and impulse, and thus are inherently anti social but also communal/clannish

>>22804790 (OP)
Who is she?

>>22804790 (OP)

>>22804790 (OP)
Its a process, people have needs, flaws, strengths, and these evolve over time.
Then theres a physics concept called inertia.
The world is scarcity, and then everything makes sense.

>>22804790 (OP)
Dysgenics. Almost anything you could deem truly evil stems from people that are physically incapable of feeling empathy or practicing self control.

>>22804790 (OP)
what is evil anon why do we all intrisically point to "evils" why do we say this represents evil

what is it representing what is at the bottom of the glass

maybe it is a force of nature a misalignment

maybe not but how can we answer questions when we cannot even define terms

if we say that evil is X we just fall for its trap the answer is we do not know evil we only know its facsimiles


you know its fucked when any person who wants to talk about this has to say

errmmmmm

So evil is a misalignment between personal and societal good's and actions

good's are the extrapolation of personal and socieatal aim's towards developing a better future and present

better is the difference between perfect and achievability

then some sperg just says well who decides that...

and you have to sit there and say were about to.

>>22804807
He would ask you a series of questions and eventually we would see it as obvious. It's late so not enough time to do that

>>22804802
Not all evil manifests itself as a psychopathic schizo murderer. Evil can be insidious and subtle. Like judges and district attorneys who free criminals to give them a "second chance". They think they're doing good, but it comes at the price of a true innocent person's life.

>>22804790 (OP)
I don't factor people into equality unless I've met them in person, There is no factual reason to believe anything a politician says for instance
So by this metric, Politicians aren't people. or are soulless.

Truely evil people I can usually understand quite easily
they usually have a serious flaw in their cognative ability and once you pick that out you explain evil
Psychopaths for instance have physically different brains to healthy brains, that simply put explains why psychopaths are evil
Because they're mentally different from myself

So why should I bother giving credence to any other faggot just because they walk on two legs?

>>22804790 (OP)
Evil is just a concept for things you don't like. You can't expect everyone to do what you personally like.

>>22804819
Evil is what destroys and corrupts. Good is what preserves and benefits. A person who is evil is by definition not good, so they are by definition acting against their own benefit, so they are stupid. (In a nutshell.)

>>22804801
> Finnish flag
You are Asian

>>22804805
Can't be fertile if she's unavailable to you. Don't waste your vril on lusting after pixels, get fit and get squared away, and you will have access to high-quality girls.

All girls want to be fucked by the right guy, but better girls require more sacrifice to do so. The best girls require you give up on all other girls.

Here's the best path: Go to church, make friends with the boomers there, and get introduced to their granddaughter. Hang out with her and take her on dates, call her regularly, and buy her a ring. Marry her properly, invite her family and such. Take her home, rip off her wedding dress, and pour your passion out of your dick and into her depths.

>>22804822
but why is a psychopath evil...?

lets say a psychopath lives in the woods alone

is he evil?

lets say the pschopath is the leader of a tribe
the tribe does not have enough food
he decides who will eat

is that evil?

>>22804824
but i could define you as evil and you could define me as evil...

lol

>>22804790 (OP)
Evil is going against your nature. Not doing what’s best for your prosperity and evolution of your race. Race is everything, it’s our blood and we live eternally though our blood. To forsake your race is to live in opposition to natural law aka God and is Satan worship. Most normies are unwittingly worshippers of Satan they just do not understand.

>>22804790 (OP)
They're weak. Simple as

>>22804825
you too, chang

>>22804829
You really think that killing a child belonging to another race is good?
What is good is to follow the holy spirit, who usually speaks through your conscience. Remember that God loves ALL races (even the vile ones like the Jews).

>>22804827
psychopaths are always good because they punish beta males by cucking and murdering them

>>22804821
>Like judges and district attorneys who free criminals to give them a "second chance". They think they're doing good, but it comes at the price of a true innocent person's life.
It's evil because they are prioritizing their egoism over the good of the criminal and the good of society. The same kind of evil as the cucks who kneel for BLM.

(But actually prison doesn't do anything positive for anyone and has no bearing on past events, especially on impulsive criminals with no future preference. It's evil to send anyone to prison, especially if you're someone who doesn't understand the implications of what life in prison may be.)

>>22804790 (OP)
jewish genes

>>22804790 (OP)
>no penis
Anon, I disappoint

>>22804806
You clearly aren't paying attention to what's going around.

Why do people say "eww gross!' when you eat paper?
It doesn't taste like anything

>>22804833
If that were true, then why do ALL human cultures have built-in mechanisms for ganging-up and killing psychopaths?

It's because psychopaths are bad news for the group in the long term, and the best thing for the race is to kill them all with extreme prejudice. Since you are so "logical", you should not even complain as your head is cut off, after all it's the best thing to do.

>>22804792
are 90% of women hurt then because thats who does it the most often

>>22804828
There's a degree of interconnected between all forms of life. The antelope can call the lion evil for eating him, the lion can call him evil for running away. But both of these perspectives are myopic mud flinging that fails to see the bigger picture. As humans we have the ability to function as a neutral third party when analyzing ourselves to avoid such conundrums.

A differing evolutionary strategy.

>>22804839
That's a fair deduction, if you also don't expect treating others the same way the psychos were treated that made them who they are will yield to different results.

>>22804841
and yet we dont kek

civilized societies cull violent people. some races went through many generations of that process.

>>22804827
Psychopaths are bad for the survival of the group, therefore healthy groups are those who purge their own psychopaths.

A psychopath in a tribe is like a cancer cell in an animal: It prioritizes growing itself over it's relatives, and kills the whole organism in the process. Healthy immune systems kill cancer, and healthy tribes kill their own psychopaths.

>>22804839
they dont have inbuilt pschopath killing instincts

they have outgroup killing instincts and they form groups constantly

>>22804790 (OP)
They behaved as Satan desired them to.
Enemy of Christ, or simply sub-human.

>>22804790 (OP)
We tried to domesticate away any violent trait from humans, in the interest of artificial abstract structures such as collaborative civilization.

Of fucking course this process of forced excision of entire facets of existence from a species, is giving way to surrogates of violence, improvised social engineering redirections an dysfunctional social outlets for that which is an evolutionarily selected behavioral expression necessary for the survival of any species on the planet.

And then you call the byproduct of this failed experiment as evil.

Just become one of those progressive monsters that want to turn humanity into Bonobos, at this point.

>>22804814
>Latin-esque

They hide behind the title of "Latin" but they are indios, simple as. Look to Italy and France for true Latin societies. Mexico, Niggeragua, Venezuela are indios that happen to speak Spanish (most of the time).

>>22804807
Altruism can be justified selfishly, so unaltruistic being selfish makes it obvious they are not just selfish, but evil.
Golden rule, high trust society, etc.

>>22804843
Psychopathy is 70% genetic. They will occasionally occur just like cancer occasionally crops up, and the immune system (social pressures in this analogy) must occasionally excise and destroy them.

>>22804846
a society cannot function without a certain number of psychopaths thats why they are always born at an almost fixed rate throught all of human history

psychopathy is an evelutionary adaptation

>>22804852
Do you think if i dont give into the pressure to a bunch of suckers i would be a psychopath.

>>22804847
People do have an instinctive hatred of psychopaths. It's well documented that people have fine-tuned psychopath detection abilities and react very badly to them, often getting a feeling of deep cold from their subconscious.

It's not perfect, but it's well documented.

>>22804852
Geneticism is an excuse to justify treating others poorly, its a circular reasoning that is always repeated and never proven for this exact reason.

>>22804855
if people have an instinctive hatred why do they still exist


what you are saying cannot be true for the reasons you think the evidence is their existance and the timscale is humanitys and the number of participents is in the trillions

i dont care what misguided study you have read it simpily cannot be true

at best it is mis-understood

>>22804826
This, and remember to ejaculate on her sweet cervix.

>>22804854
No, that's autism, which is different.
Psychopaths have no empathy, they feel nothing when they hurt someone else. Autists still feel for others, they are just bad at reading social queues and such.

An autist might not realize they are hurting someone else, but would care if they did. A psychopath fully understands but doesn't care.

Autists may also place some principle above social pressure (for me it's honesty even at the cost of harming people, myself included). Despite this, they still care about others, they just may push past that. Psychos don't care.

>>22804834
Cuckity cuck cuck cuckaloid cuckolds are evil. I hate that fetish. I want to kill all cuckity cuckcuck cuckaroo cucks. Cuckoo.

>>22804855
>>22804857


lets take 4 trillion people over 700 000 years and lets say thay they cant detect and kill psychopaths

why are psychopaths born at the same rate today as they were back then.....

why is the gene present

if its purely genetic

if its societal lets say it is that makes socieaty a pschopathic epiphenomina

how is that possible people should be able to detect it

>>22804855
link a study so i can shit on somebody's career.

>>22804791
This is the correct answer.
FPBP.
/thread

>>22804856
Sure thing Andrew, it's just single motherhood that makes niggers niggers right?

>>22804856
>This automated natural phenomena which works and exists outside of the necessity of any human conception, delusion or interference is just an evil plot working inside of human delusions and interference

>>22804790 (OP)
a lot of people don't actually have souls

>>22804856
Do you believe in a blank-slate? That's been proven false by overwhelming evidence.

People are both genetics AND environment. The more extreme the environment, the less significant the genetics will be. Generally, the influence of genetics on some trait is given by the "heritability score", some number between 0 and 1, which is the proportion of the variability in that trait in the general population that is explained by factors passed from parents to offspring. For psychopathy in western nations, the heritability score is 0.7. For reference, IQ has a heritability of 0.85.

Heritability is what controls evolutionary pressure, because anything that can be inherited can evolve darwinistically (even if that heritability is not DNA, but rather something like passing on values or whatever).

>>22804862
>be my personal science-butler
Literally just use google scholar. Lazy-ass faggot...

there is an obvious moral framework to the universe and to break those understandings makes you evil. denying them just makes you a fucking moron. it's as simple as that and you all know what i'm talking about

>>22804827
>lets say a psychopath lives in the woods alone

is he evil?
lets say a jew exists
is he evil?

Yes. you idiot
they are no longer people that is my point.
they are another animal now, and should be respected as such, My father was a pedophile
and a psychopath. I know that's big talk but i can prove the former.

Psychopaths are dangerous and rise to power frequently in times of desperation.

>>22804868
anon finding some scientist to discredit would be pschopathic

discrediting some presented scientist would be collaberative

>>22804871
My source is half-remembered shit from psych class and binge-watching a lot of Edward Dutton and Aydin Paladin. I don't have ready-to-hand citations. Putting together citations is a full-time job and I'm not being paid to do that for you.

>>22804870
im not saying they dont do "evil" things

nobody is defending your father your putting a human face on the idea

it would be insensitive to talk about it in the personal and not the abstract

you yourself are justifying his actions with a label (rightly or wrongly) it does not matter

what matters is that being pschopathic is not evil in and off itself the action holds the weight and the label makes the understanding more easy

if a psychopath did no evil would he be evil
the answer is obviously no

thergore pschopathy itself is not evil (the label defining the trait) if not acted on

>>22804827
evil is an abject concept not objective concept
It's not down to a pedophile judge to decree evil
I'm not a theist retard either
evil is simply not a human judgement but abject state of being.

Hylics

>>22804790 (OP)
evil people usually have weird mommy/daddy dynamics
evil men are usually momboys

>>22804867
Thing is the genetics vs enviroment argument is moot when you realize that the way people respond to enviromental factors is also genetically determined.

>>22804874
thats fine but again
lacking empathy is also not a negative trait it is a nuteral trait that can lead to negative outcomes

haveing empathy is a positive state
the opposite of empathy is not a lack of empathy nor is it psycopathy it is active hatred of others

>>22804873
Evil in my honest opinion is an internalized identity.
what i think you're describing is holistic good/bad which is nonsense

Good and bad are the human terms for an abject reality of just BEING an evil creature.

Is this worm evil?
it's just surviving?
is it good then?
>444

>>22804877
No, that's baked into the metric.

For any measurable trait, there is some variability of that trait within a given population. That variability can be compared across related people vs unrelated people to determine how much of the population variability is explained by inherited factors vs random factors. The statistical math is messy, but definitive.

As such, a "heritability score" on a trait *technically* only applies to a certain population under certain environmental conditions, however it's still a useful metric.

>>22804840
Probably, it's often real in their mind even if nothing ever happens

>>22804807
Everybody believes they are doing what is right and best for themselves, so evil people never believe they are evil. Even the edgelords of today.

>>22804873
>if a psychopath did no evil would he be evil
the answer is obviously no

Nature is apathetic to this concept, just because a physchopath gets aborted does not mean that featus was going to be a force of evil.
Killing pets, raping siblings, molesting other children
this is what my father did growing up.
Largely when people try quantify a single person especially for instance at a eulogy as good or bad, just or evil, people will focus on the good things and ignore.... for instance your brother raping you when you're 5...?

I saw this in person at his funeral everyone knew.
Lol

>>22804822
Ducks walk on 2 legs anon do you hate them too? Why do you hate ducks anon?

>>22804878
empathy is a tool.
Not a compulsion or function you have to obey.

>>22804867
I don't believe in a blank slate, i do believe that there are scales of size lower in the structure of human beings that with proper management can neuter all sorts of genetic effects and that this process is not unreasonable to master (nutrition, medicine, etc...)
IQ can also be controlled by this.

>>22804884
Ducks rape to reproduce
Do you love rape anon?

>>22804879
the worm is a worm anon
the world of morality does not apply to animals or insects because they cannot comprehend it

can the worm reasonably be expected to reason on the morality of its existence if found that his existence is immoral could it be reasonably expected to stop existing

again good and evil are not human constructs at all imo however we have no idea what they are so use them as frameworks to extol/denounce

we ignore the difficult question and instead focus on the individual application of the extrapolated interpritation

"this is evil" "that is evil"

instead of what is evil.

>>22804790 (OP)
brain defect
they havent been evolutionary removed because in population of only normal non evil people they thrive
but when evil (psychopath/sociopath) % gets too high group collapses and gets conquered by group with lesser (optimal) number of them
also historically those people had use as executioners, raiders etc.

>>22804886
My general understanding is that the environmental effect on IQ is sort of a 1/x^2 function, such that in-utero nutrition is way more important than infant conditions, which are way more important than childhood, which is way more important than teenage years, which is way more important than early adulthood, etc.

>>22804887
I hate rape, but also find the idea hot at the same time, probably because I've never had to deal with the fallout of it for real, so my monkeybrain says "girls won't give sex? take it by force and see it as 'deserved'".

The civilized part of my brain means that I will NEVER actually do this, but the thought still makes my pp hard despite the fact that I don't want it to.

>>22804826
simp

>>22804890
There is certainly a progression to the stability of the function of organs, obviously in-utero conditions can be easily drifted into mayhaps if the mother is of bad habits ( an alcoholic, a smoker...). Physical effect that all these products have on the mother affects the homeostasis of the embryo. I still do believe however that any conditions of organs ca be managed with a proper treatment. However its a skill issue.

>>22804892
Simps waste their time on girls who will never reciprocate. Gentlemen invest time and resources to get the best possible outcome. Simps never have sex, Gentlemen have permanent guaranteed access to it.

>>22804790 (OP)
Wrong. They're the ones who REALLY see the world for what it is.

>>22804790 (OP)
There is no such thing as evil

>>22804879
>>22804888
why you describe your father as evil or pschopathic that could be true

but at some point he did something good and that is also true

can evil do good
no it cannot
can good do evil
again no semantically speaking

what this exposes in your argumentation is that you are looking for a reason and makeing the evidence fit the reason

rather than examining the evidence and then applying reason

same with above anon saying we can sense pschopaths

i mean maybe sure but the test for that in comparison with reality would have to be something akin to a miricle of scientific excelence

>>22804893
If you think you can eliminate all variability from how people exist in the real world, you're wrong.

And if you did somehow raise everyone in an identical, "perfect" environment, then the heritability of intelligence would be close to 100% in that environment since genetic variation is the only remaining source of variation. Communities that put a lot of work into removing differences in the treatment of boys and girls have actually found that gender-gaps became MORE pronounced, rather than less, because they removed all the factors that might break the biases of biological reality.

>>22804897
lets take for example as fact we can sense pschopaths....

ok something is then supressing us acting on that sense

whatever that mechanism is could be de-coupled studied and applied at all levels of society it would change the way the world functions

>>22804894
>gentlemen
>with no fault divorce
tradcuck

>>22804897
>did something good
I'm talking about the state of being They are with their moral compass and cognative predisposition they are abjectly an evil force that passes through the masses of people in the streets largely going unnoticed

we only really label people as such when they do ted bundy tier mass killings
I think that is factually incorrect
You do not need to be caught by your peers or enemies to be Evil, again it's not a man made construct its intrinsic in their nature.

>>22804790 (OP)
Your personality is genetic and evolution favors evil, who survives and reproduces most, sluts, rapists, murderers. If you kill someone and rape their wife, they don't reproduce, you do. If you genocide another tribe, they get removed from the gene pool, your tribe survives. If you have someone who loves butchering animals, they have plenty to eat, while someone who feels bad about it starves.

>>22804900
In the Catholic Church there is no divorce. Protestant Churches may encourage such cuckoldry, but in the One True Church, it's not possible.

Find a girl who respects that authority, or whose family will pressure her into respecting that authority.

>>22804898
I disagree, with that being said, its not simple.
I don't expect the general population to see this however, there is alot of mechanisms and efforts needed to have the proper metrics of measurement to be efficient at managing all that can go wrong biologically. I like to think of testosterone as a case point, with how its reported to increase aggressiveness, even behavior can be controlled by biology. I agree that we disagree.

>>22804902
You are a nigger.
>>22804903
Catholic Jesuits prefer raping little boys.

>>22804905
>Catholic Jesuits prefer raping little boys.
You loose all intelligence as soon as you have programming and slogans to do your thinking for you.

>>22804790 (OP)
Konnichiwa, baby!

>>22804901
they themselfs do not see their actions as objectivly evil it is us that see the actions as evil

nobody has ever commited an act they consider to be evil

>>22804867
The effects of classical conditioning and child abuse and their consequences are far ranging.
You can abuse people into being fucked up and condition them into associating pain with (action).

I'd argue that conditioning plays a greater role than nature or nurture, children can be made to be wind up toys rather easily.

>>22804908
>nobody has ever commited an act they consider to be evil
Not true.
I've done that lots of times, in moments of weakness I may have done something like masturbating to rape-porn. I KNOW it's deeply evil and hated myself for it, but I did it anyway.
I defeated my porn addiction, so that's not me anymore, but I remember it well. It's completely possible for people to choose something they think is evil.

>>22804906
Yeah and that programming did you really good huh. Like CC+raps in a virtual server since you certainly dont use any windows.

>>22804908
ive only ever seen evil people try to justify their shit they do with enormous self-pity
they fully know they did something evil but hope to abuse your empathy to cloud your judgement

>>22804790 (OP)
being hurt is the excuse
they are genetic shit

>>22804910
what is evil about masturbation to rape porn anon?

you did not rape anybody again im not saying it is or isnt evil

but you in that moment justified the action you did not try to commit evil

your pleasure simpily overrid your sense of wrong-doing

you momentarily suspended your empathy and prehaps that is evil

Type 1: extreme selfishness to the point of throwing others under the bus for your own gain.
Type 2: extreme stupidity that results in destructive tendencies not benefiting anyone.