christcuck’s razor: if you need a reason to believe, you don’t — and if your belief depends on justification, you’re not a true believer, you’re a functional atheist pretending for comfort. real faith doesn’t argue, explain, or beg to make sense. it simply is. the moment you start defending it with logic, morality, or social utility, you’ve already confessed you don’t trust it on its own. you don’t believe in god — you believe in the idea of belief, because the alternative terrifies you.

>>22842872 (OP)
so now you brought your thread to /pol/ because you've been shown to be wrong on /x/.

>>22842873
making up lies doesn't help your case, post the thread if you think you won

>>22842874
your entire point is simply wrong but you refuse to listen. your pic says 'IF your belief depends...' but thats not the case
your pic says 'real faith doesn't argue explain....' but that goes exactly against the New Testament....but again, you refuse to listen.

your pic says 'the moment you start defending it with logic, morality etc..you've confessed you dont trust it.' But thats also simply wrong and also against the New Testament.

surprisingly, you again refuse to listen

>>22842875
so you failed to post the thread because you got BTFO

also you just failed christcuck’s razor like a perfect midwit — real belief doesn’t justify itself. the moment you start explaining, you admit it’s not faith, it’s fear wrapped in logic. you don’t believe in god, you believe in not having to face the void.

>>22842876
you're stuck on this dumb point like a scratched record. the thread is there for anyone who bothers opening /x/. You seem to entirely not know what you're talking about and refuse to listen to the very people you think your gottcha applies to.

seek Christ anon because this kind of irrational belligerent blindness is the sort of thing He can set you free from.

>>22842877
christcuck’s razor: belief that needs defense is already dead. you’re not defending god, you’re defending your fear of not believing — classic midwit behavior.

Show your flag, kike. Or at least denounce the talmud, you rat.

>>22842872 (OP)
>let's keep believing something came from nothing

>>22842872 (OP)
This is the most pants-on-head retarded shilling I have seen all year.
Obvious shill bait thread.

>>22842878
>belief that needs defense is already dead
no it isn't. you've got two anons patiently trying to get you to understand this but you refuse. defense is just to show that the objections of the unbelievers is not true. its to stop their mouths, disarm their sinful nature, and perhaps open the way for them to hear the Gospel.

>>22842880
Maybe the universe has no beginning

>israeli flag
>hates christ

yup, story checks out

>>22842883
Maybe the laws of thermodynamics is le wrong

>>22842885

>>22842872 (OP)
Christkikery is just a personality accessory for these fags. You have another element here that "believe" because they think it's owning the jews. However you'll notice that none of them put any effort at all into being christlike people because doing so would require investing more effort than screeching "christ is kang" or posting the handful of bible verses they believe to be antisemitic.

>>22842884
>israel stands with an 85% christian country
Shit like this is what I was talking about. This fag doesn't even understand geopolitics but thinks he's owning the jews in some way by worshipping one.

>>22842887
If they were serious I'd expect them to donate all money they spend on luxury items like video games to charities like wycliffe Bible translators or against malaria foundation

>>22842884
dawg I just don't wanna worship jews

>>22842888
The disconnect is that so few modern christians know what the jews actually worship.

Most have never even heard of the talmud or zohar and just blindly worship the hooknose

>>22842872 (OP)
>muh christcuck
Kek not reading any of that lmao

>>22842872 (OP)
Christ is king.
He rules over you.

>>22842887
Based post.

Let's see what christcucks have to believe according to their book

> In Ezekiel 4:12-17, the prophet is instructed to bake bread using dried human excrement as fuel, symbolizing the dire conditions of a siege and the Israelites' impending exile.

>>22842872 (OP)
this is almost true

Proverbs 3:5-6

we must lean on faith and not on our own understanding

OP say a prayer to God and ask him for faith

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kt4rWLVAW5g

>>22842872 (OP)
"if you need a reason to believe"

I dont. Atheist's are the ones throwing reasons to not believe.

No one cares about you pieces of flesh... I may an that is what you believe we are, right?

>>22842895
Dawg I just don't wanna worship jews

>>22842889
Yep they refuse to do the most basic things instructed by christ, like giving up their riches and going to all nations to spread the word. Instead they mock the poor and claim only Whites can go to heaven. They're really lucky this shit is all made up.
>>22842894
Kek israelites were the original streetshitters.

>>22842897
say one prayer to God and ask him for faith

give it a try, surely you will be ok regardless

Isaiah 41:10

>>22842891
>he thinks anyone who has read the OT (torah/tanakh) is going to be shocked by the talmud
Hahahahaha nah

>>22842900
>he thinks anyone who has read the OT (torah/tanakh) is going to be shocked by the talmud
A solid opinion for someone who has not read either.
.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABeeKCygNlw&list

>>22842899
American anon I don't wanna read Isaiah 41:10

What about
>Samuel 18:25
>Saul replied, “Say to David, ‘The king wants no other price for the bride than a hundred Philistine foreskins, to take revenge on his enemies.’” Saul’s plan was to have David fall by the hands of the Philistines.

Jews seem to have some bizzare obsession with foreskins. Eww... I don't want to have nothing with jews and their fairytales. Is this that difficult to understand?

They are other religions and believes. The whole world doesn't revolve around Semitic fairytales about foreskins. I don't want to have nothing in common with joos and other sandnibbers

dear CHRISTKEKS.

Let's read another wonderful fairytale about FORESKINS. From your favorite book of course

>Exodus 4:24
>At a lodging place on the way, the Lord met Moses[a] and was about to kill him. 25 But Zipporah took a flint knife, cut off her son’s foreskin and touched Moses’ feet with it.[b] “Surely you are a bridegroom of blood to me,” she said. 26 So the Lord let him alone. (At that time she said “bridegroom of blood,” referring to circumcision.)

Joos have some bizzare obsession with foreskins and you worship them? Ewww...

>>22842901
>doubles down on retardation
How many babies and children did yahweh kill? How many children did the israelites kill? How many little girls did the israelites rape? How many foreskins did the israelites steal? How many non-jewish races did they try to exterminate? Why did the noahide laws come from jewish interpretation of the torah? Why are the actions of moshe cited in the talmud? Same kike shit. The fact that you deny it is very (((sus)))

>>22842902 >>22842904
>Jews seem to have some bizzare obsession with foreskins
The prevailing theory is that because talmudic judaism is a female-centric cult that mutilating the males acts to emasculate their males to keep them cucked and complacent.

>>22842901
The israelites were genocidal pedophile jewish supremacists.

>>22842905
>Jews seem to have some bizzare obsession with foreskins
Lol yes because your jewish god told them to.

>>22842905
no, it creates a rift between the infant and the parent so daddy state can step in.

>>22842906
Even without human sacrifice, the combination of circumcision and ritualistic pedophelia gives jews a tight-knit network akin to gang initiations

>>22842896
>Atheist's are the ones throwing reasons to not believe.
I don't find your personal feelings in God very convincing

>>22842883
Then there is no distinction between "the universe" i.e. Creation, and God. Which is actually what Christianity teaches: that God is One, and at the same time, He is All.

>>22842887
And what does "being Christlike" look like, to you? There's a very good chance that our definitions of that would differ.

>>22842911
The only thing that kristkikery teaches is that you have to be obidient cattle , worship your joo master and present him your forskin.

What are you talking about? Universe? God? It's ridiculus. Christcuck is the last person I wanna discuss something like creation of the world or god

>>22842880
No one believes this. No one makes this argument either

>>22842872 (OP)
Show flag kike

>>22842910
You don't need to. We aren't trying to convert you. We're offering you a way out of your prison, but if you wish to remain imprisoned, we won't stop you.

>>22842872 (OP)
ITT, nervous christcucks

>>22842911

The only thing christchikery teaches it this >>22842902
>>22842903
>>22842894

Some crazy joo stories about foreskins and baking bread using human shit

>>22842913
The Bible teaches none of that nonsense you just posted. If that is what you have seen Christianity to be, I am sorry you haven't found a non-heretical teacher. I wouldn't want to follow that kind of religion either, so I totally understand your position.

>>22842919
bla bla bla bla bla

I WILL NOT WORSHIP JEWS

bla bla bla bla bla bla bla

>>22842916
>You don't need to. We aren't trying to convert you. We're offering you a way out of your prison
Nice contradiction.

You claim I'm in a prison. I'm not.

>>22842920
Right. I wouldn't worship the Synagogue of Satan either. I hear ya brother.

>>22842878
> christcuck’s razor: belief that needs defense is already dead. you’re not defending god, you’re defending your fear of not believing — classic midwit behavior.

>>22842921
You are, but you don't believe it so you don't see it. That's fine. Like I said, no one is trying to convert you. Religion/faith is a personal choice; some people just can't manage it. That doesn't make them inferior in any way - that is exactly by design. Feature, not a bug.

>>22842872 (OP)
it misses the main point, you can't come to Christ unless the Father pulls you (John 6:44), Couple that with John 14:6 and you have absolutely no control over your belief.

This is one of the biggest weaknesses of all Churches - they make it seem like you are the one that chooses, but that's not what the Bible says at all. You know why they do this (the churches?) to get you to give them money, it's really that simple.

It gains them nothing to teach you the truth, that you are saved, and that you should just be a good person. It's so simple, so they can't control you.

>>22842913
naw, only fake churches teach that (pretty much all of them are fake). if God has called you, you will be compelled to read the truth and live your life according to the fruit of the spirit (gal 5:22-23)

Faith comes first.
Matthew 18:2 explains this.
Logic and reason are secondary and supplementary at best.

Jesus Christ is Lord

>>22842925
christkikes toungue my ass (some_kike 322:420)

>>22842924
>You are
Nah, you want me to be because I don't believe like you. You can't even be honest when speaking which proves you don't offer anything worth of value

>>22842872 (OP)
Yeah, modern christians are retarded vulgar masses who need a fairy tale. The remainder of the retarded vulgar masses has turned politics and sports into their new religion. At the end of the day they're all licking kike toes.

>>22842926
>>22842928

>>22842872 (OP)
>ad hominem
>non sequitur (6x)
>cringe
It appears God wins again, as always.

relgion is an ignorance armor. without it you would be just called stupid for your profound lack of knowledge on topics you want to discuss. every time you rely on religion in discussion is like you're saying "i'm too stupid to make my own opinion and will follow the authority instead".

>>22842872 (OP)
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Guaranteed replies

>>22842872 (OP)
TKD
thank you for your time

>>22842912
>There's a very good chance that our definitions of that would differ.
Yes because as I said you don't want to put any effort into actually doing it, so you find loopholes not to and quote a handful of verses you happen to like, like a jew. What you won't be doing is ever, under any circumstances
>defending whores and adulterers
>volunteering to go help the sick and hungry free of charge
>living with only the basic necessities as you tithe to help the poor
>humbly spreading his word to all people of all nations
You're a narcisstic better than thou faggot who would've gotten whipped half to death if you showed up in your rabbi's synagogue.
>>22842919
Lol case in point.

>>22842872 (OP)
This is just trash all around.
>muh razor hu hu
>just like muh philosophy
What a fucking retard.

>>22842875
I'm more on op's side with this. I don't believe in God because that would be like saying I believe the truth.

>>22842872 (OP)

Dear goyim worship me and give me your delicious foreskin (Johny The Jew 322:420)

>>22842940
lmfao

>>22842902
based

>>22842879
I denounce the Talmud and OP is right and you will still cry and worship the jew on the stick.

>>22842916
>We aren't trying to convert you.
Then you are not following the bible

>>22842925
This is actually correct. The churches teach that "you are one of Christ's sheep if you believe". This is the opposite of what Christ said though: He said "if you are one of My sheep, you'd believe". The relationship of sheep:belief has been inverted, in order to bring in more followers and thus more money and temporal power. Modern churches are MOSTLY goats, and not sheep.

>>22842929
I don't want you to be or believe anything. I've said it three times now: I'm not interested in converting you. What you believe has no relation to what is true. For that matter, what *I* believe doesn't either.

>>22842944
Not following your interpretation of the Bible, you mean. Evangelism is a farce - the best conversion method is a life well-lived.

>>22842925
>You know why they do this (the churches?) to get you to give them money, it's really that simple.
Nothing wrong with a bit of charity, the bible encourages it but remember to trow away the merchants from your temples.

>>22842947
Matthew 28:19-20:
"Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age."
It's very explicit, i avoid interpreting the bible or trying to fin hidden meanings.

>>22842872 (OP)
i think most christcucks would admit that they believe in christian morality and it isn't predicated on literally thinking god is real. plenty of christians have crises of faith

>>22842949
christcucks toungue my ass (nigger-faggot 420:69)

>>22842902
if you read the story Saul was acting in evil ways and challenging David to an impossible task

David did the impossible because he was blessed by God and met every challenge he was given by Saul. until David himself started to sin (such as lust and pride) and he was punished by God later in the story

>>22842949
This was specifically a command to find the lost sheep and return them to the fold. That commission has been fulfilled. The Bible has been translated into almost every language on the planet and is the most printed piece of literature ever. The Great Commission is already done, the sheep have been returned. What we have today is trying to make goats become sheep, which is always going to be doomed to failure - you're either a sheep or a goat, you can't turn one into the other.

>>22842946
>I don't want you to be or believe anything
I see no reason to believe your personal feelings anyway. Lol

>>22842952
nah dawg i just don't wanna worship a jew

>>22842954
Then don't. Are you even listening?

>>22842880
>Special pleading: the god

>>22842930
Right. Most normies are still "christian" unwittingly

>>22842910
>I don't find your personal feelings in God very convincing

Dying for your approval lol

>>22842952
and the fact that you are trying to justify this insanity of cooking bread with using humas shit as fuel by some god will is ridiculus. Please stop giving a christcuck. stop forshipping jews. It's not that difficult.

The world doesn't revolve about jews and their fairytales of how some guy wanted to get 200 foreskins for his daughter's hand , about another guy cooking bread on shit etc... Dawg just stop playing with this insanity

>>22842955
Christians don't either - they worship an Israelite. Jews are NOT Israelites, they're Canaanites and Edomites, they even admit this themselves. Why the hell do you think Christians worship a jew? Christ was not a jew, He was an Israelite. He specifically called out the jews many, many times, in fact, His disciples were amazed at how He knew who was a jew or not just by looking at them (because everyone had been intermingling at that time and jews looked almost the same as Israelites).

>>22842955
Philippians 2:10-11

youre going to feel quite silly at the gates when you have to explain this post to St Peter

>>22842956
you’re not upset no one’s listening — you’re upset no one’s validating. that’s not faith, that’s narcissism. you needed your belief to be admired, debated, taken seriously — and when it wasn’t, you cracked. real faith doesn’t beg for attention.

>>22842961
Where does the text say Jews are not Israelites

>>22842872 (OP)
>if you need a reason to believe, you don’t
Da fuck is this even mean

>>22842961
Unironically kill yourself

>>22842872 (OP)
>>22842874
>>22842876
>>22842878
Oh look, some jew/muslim/atheist made a slide thread.

>>22842965
it means if you need a reason to believe, you don’t really believe — you’re just trying to convince yourself. real belief doesn’t need explaining. if you have to talk yourself into it, it’s not real.

>>22842960
The OT is a tragic story about people turning away from God

God wanted Ezekiel to live in a certain way to show the Israelites how terrible their condition would be if they turned from him

God let Ezekiel negotiate and instead use cow dung as fuel, but later he did not go so easy on the Israelites and they were under siege

>>22842873
Lol fippy bippy

>>22842872 (OP)
americans go to church to clap
simple as

>>22842961
>>22842962
please guys no. I love america. In a sense of european culture that was/is still there. I love yankees , dixies , country music, muscle cars etc.

I respect you guys. But this
>yooo dude we wuz da jooz
cope theory. I have heard it only coming from americans. And i know something about orthodoxy at least. You are like mormons that believe that all this crazy jebish fairytales took place in north america. Cmon guys you can believe in god and morality etc without getting your head in the jewish pile of shit. Come on just stop playing with this insanity , world doesnt revolve around jews

>>22842956
>Are you even listening?
To your doublespeak? Yup

>>22842959
>boohoo
Lol

>>22842963
Very amusing, an atheist telling a religious person what faith is or should be.

>>22842975
He's right too

>>22842872 (OP)
religion is like any other facet of life. you have
1) the mentally retarded subhuman nigger cattle masses (most 65 IQ /pol/ christcucks),
2) higher IQ believers who hold some level of skepticism as a result of studying nature (science) as well as scholarly religious works
3) the people at the top who exist to think and call the shots (religious scholars and leaders)

>>22842975
i’m not telling you what faith should be — i’m showing you what yours isn’t. the fact that you need to defend it already proves it’s fake. real faith doesn’t flinch, explain, or seek approval. yours does all three.

>>22842878
Its called apologetics, a study created that ALL religions employ to describe their beliefs

>>22842961
>Jews are NOT Israelites, they're Canaanites and Edomites
Amazing how regardless of what denomination these retards follow they always end up spewing this christian identity nonsense.

>>22842872 (OP)
Show flag, fag.

A very jewish thread

>>22842975
Very amusing, a christbeaner telling a white atheist person what logic is or should be.

>>22842872 (OP)
Nice memeflag you subhuman

>>22842982
Indeed, because christians have found it.

>>22842978
>scream like a retard
>gets called retarded
>n-n-nuhuh, you fell into mah trap
Pretending to be retarded is the same as being fucking retarded you retard.
Holy shit, I hope you're just a bored jeet or a bot and not actually this fucking stupid.

>>22842979
ah yes, apologetics — the midwit tradition of dressing up fear as philosophy. every time belief starts to rot, someone invents a new excuse to keep the corpse propped up. you’re not defending faith, you’re desperately trying to make it sound intelligent so you don’t have to face the silence where god should be. if your god needs essays, debate tactics, and mental gymnastics to be real, then he isn’t.

>>22842986
>christkike makes no effort at actually being christlike
Just like I said earlier ITT.

>>22842964
Revelations 2:9 - I know the blasphemy of them which say they are jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan

There's only one people calling themselves jews today, ergo, they are liars and blasphemers.

Romans 9:6 - For they are not all Israel (the people) who are of Israel (the Roman province).

Paul explicitly points out that not everyone living in the province of Israel/Judea is actually an Israelite/Judahite. There are impostors.

Those impostors have remained there for 2,000 years, while the Israelites moved and settled north, in Europe, becoming Christians.

>>22842986
you failed the razor and now you’re lashing out like a cornered midwit. no faith, no conviction — just wounded pride screaming through empty insults. everyone sees it.

>>22842989
This says nothing about the jews not being Isrealites. What it does say is they are liars and deceiver. And in this context it's talking about the Pharisees

>>22842989
Revelation is about doctrinal belief kot ethnicity.
Notice the Christ nigger removes the context from Romans 9 where Paul in fact proves the Jews are in fact, Jews.

Romans 9
King James Version
9 I say the truth in Christ, I lie not, my conscience also bearing me witness in the Holy Ghost,

2 That I have great heaviness and continual sorrow in my heart.

3 For I could wish that myself were accursed from Christ for my brethren, my kinsmen according to the flesh:

4 Who are Israelites; to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of God, and the promises;

5 Whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came, who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen.

6 Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel:

7 Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.

So Paul, a Pharisee from the tribe of Benjamin clearly states the Jews are his brethren.

>>22842987
Your use of midwit is cyclical. Are you a bot?

>>22842989
>which say they are jews, and are not
Completely ambiguous and meaningless. All this is saying is that some people in Philadelphia and Smyrna were persecuting the church while calling themselves judeans. It doesn't give any indication who they actually are genetically and there's no mention of israel/israelites.
>For they are not all Israel (the people)
The high priests, specifically caiaphas, who put jesus to death were levites.
>Those impostors have remained there for 2,000 years
The bible says that the canaanites were almost completely wiped out which is bullshit since the Lebanese and Palestinians are primarily of canaanite extraction.

>>22842972
Christianity only makes sense when talking about Israelites. No other people matters. It is crucially important that one knows who one is, what people one belongs to. If you aren't an Israelite/Christian *ethnically*, then Christianity, the religion, isn't for you. It's no different than a monkey wearing a crucifix, or a parrot taught to recite Psalms.

Christians are only properly understood as both a race and a religion; where do you think the kikes got the idea from? They certainly didn't come up with that themselves - they are destroyers, not creators. It doesn't really matter what you personally believe - if you're a White European, you're a Christian, and that's all there is to it. You don't have to follow the faith, your salvation is guaranteed because of WHAT you are, not WHO you are. The Bible is just giving you more details on that.

>>22842877
It's just another seething kike who hates christ for correctly naming them the synagogue of satan. All this wasted effort trying to consensus crack here to stem the tide of the spreading awareness that kikes are evil when they could just simply stop being vile.

>>22842973
It'a doublespeak to say "I don't give a shit what you believe"?

Alright.

>>22842936
Retarded attempt at projecting. Christians are the largest sect of charity workers, adopters and donators in the world.

You and your ilk have this insane level of cognitive dissonance I've ever seen on /pol/.
Like arguing with actual trannies.

>>22842993
you’ve got nothing. christcuck’s razor left you exposed and all you can do now is bark.

>>22842995
>Christians are only properly understood as both a race and a religion
Nope. Christianity has no race and no nation. It is rootless.

>>22842880
What part of the prime mover argument leads to the Trinity?

>>22842998
>projecting
Jewish buzzword you got from reddit, grow up if you want a real response.

>>22843002
>ignores everything else posted because it didn't like one word
Classic kike cope.

>>22842978
You can't "show what my faith isn't" - or did you think you could prove a negative? I also have never once said "you should follow my faith or beliefs". Not once. I'm not bothering to defend my faith - you're correct in that the Truth is what it is and needs no defending. I'm explaining to you what my faith is. There is no obligation on you to agree or disagree. I'm not debating here, I'm explaining my worldview.

Calm down, boyo.

I say to you that many will come from the east and the west, and will take their places at the feast with Abraham, Isaac and Jacob in the kingdom of heaven. 12 But the subjects of the kingdom will be thrown outside, into the darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.”

Kikes seem to love the dark sewers and tunnels, maybe theyll enjoy weeping and gnashing their teeth outside while we all celebrate with God. Everyone from the left and right, communist to libertarian are all coming together for the common cause of recognizing kikes are evil. Kikes are screwed the whole world is kicking them out this time. Maybe elon will let them live on mars

>>22843003
>starts off speaking yiddish
>chimps out when not taken seriously
Time to grow up, kiddo. I'm not an atheist either so you can save your reddit fap folder for when your mom goes to bed.

>>22843003
Christian retards are the only ones still thinking about covid lol. This must be one of those "projections" you were talking about.

>>22843008
>plays mental gymnastics at describing a person he literally doesn't know
>gets called out for his kike projection, an attempt to paint his enemy in a disfavourable light
>is statistically wrong, Christians preform the most charities in the world
You don't believe in anything, except for attacking your "fellow" whites.

Rationalizations that amount to sophistry aren't good but all beliefs should be justified. Promoting the idea that belief has to be ungrounded, irrational, and unjustified is stupid and feeds into christcuck delusions.

>>22843013
Christians called out the covid scam
I distinctly remember the schizo posting on /pol/ about covid being the anti christ.

>>22843013
The stupid little fuck didn't even use it right. At no point did I ever claim to be christlike or that I wanted to be like their rabbi, so merely pointing out that they don't embody the values of said rabbi by definition cannot be "projection" in the jewish sense he intended.
>>22843019
>still hasn't grown up
Kek somehow you think showing that 1 in 20 christians does christlike shit is an own. No you gay little twink, it proved my point spectacularly and you're in the 19, not the 1.

>>22843025
>DAAAAAA MARK OF DAAAAAAAA BEEEEEEEST
Yes you're gullible infantile niggers, what else is new.

>>22843026
Looks like he's just going to spam strawman atheist slop the rest of the thread. 100% chance he believes voting works and thinks voting for the (((GOP))) is an act of defiance.

>>22843031
Well statistically he's not White, so of course we're going to be in for some double digit IQ shit.

>>22843034
Kek true. Statistically "he" is also a woman.

>>22843044
Should we tell him the race of the babies that small minority of christians is adopting?

>>22843048
I'd like to buy an N.

>>22843019
The world would be a better place if you killed yourself.

>>22842953
That's your personal interpretation dude, I'm not following it.