God bless you /pol/.

No matter your denomination, come and discuss our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ - who died for our sins.

>>22844164 (OP)
Jesus was a pedophile schizo with a God complex.
>Every one of Jesus’ apostles besides Peter was underage (neaniskos is the Greek word used)
>When a woman questions why he hangs out with kids he says “don’t scandalize me”
>Tells these boys he will make them “fishers of men”
>Goes into upper rooms and washes their feet while naked
>Tells them to “eat his flesh and drink his haima” (if you think this means “blood” here, see Ezekiel 23:20)
>Is arrested in a public park at 4am with a naked boy (see Mark 14:51-52)
>When the cops show up he says “why do you come for me with swords and clubs like I’m some kind of leistes”
>The word leistes, which gets translated as “thief” is actually “pirate” and was used in contemporary texts (many examples such as Lucian’s Alexander) to refer to sex traffickers
>Sex trafficking was a big problem in the Mediterranean and one of the big things the Romans did was crack down on the pedo pirates. Julius Caesar himself was kidnapped by them as a kid and afterwards had them all crucified
>Jesus Christ was in fact crucified between two other leistes
There's a reason Jesus's "Most Beloved Disciple" is always depicted as a beardless boy whereas the rest of his followers had beards. Dude liked em young.

>>22844164 (OP)
I take a shit on Jesus a d the cross

>>22844165
And I will bring distress upon men, that they shall walk like blind men, because they have sinned against the Lord: and their blood shall be poured out as dust, and their flesh as the dung.
-Zephaniah 1:17

>>22844164 (OP)
sorry, not interested in worshiping rabbis or jew kings

>>22844164 (OP)
16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him.

18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son. 19 John 3:16-19

9 If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you profess your faith and are saved. Romans 10:9-10

>>22844164 (OP)
(Matthew 24:3) “Tell us, When will these things be, and what will be the sign of your presence and of the conclusion of the system of things?”

>Jesus said that his presence would be signified with...

(Matthew 24:7) “For nation will rise against nation and kingdom against kingdom, and there will be food shortages and earthquakes in one place after another.

(Luke 21:11)...in one place after another pestilences...

(Matthew 24:12) and because of the increasing of lawlessness the love of the greater number will cool off.

>The earth would be ruined and polluted.

“Bring to ruin those ruining the earth.” (Revelation 11:18)

>The message is officially spread of his coming and his Kingdom.

“This good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come.”—Matt. 24:14.

>The Announcement of Peace and Security

“Whenever it is that they are saying: ‘Peace and security!’ then sudden destruction is to be instantly upon them.”—1 Thess. 5:3.

>The Great Tribulation

>Armageddon

We are currently in the pangs of distress Jesus spoke of in Matthew 24 which is part of the last days. We are not in the Great Tribulation. Where we are is in the moment right before they announce peace and security. They are going to announce a word wide call of Peace & Security in some way. Then the Great Tribulation then Armageddon.

>>22844164 (OP)
Jehovah's Witness here, AMA.

>>22844164 (OP)
Shut the fuck up fed, you don't even know the rules of what you speak. There are no gods.

>>22844166
>>22844168

>>22844173
>Repent and suck the jew cock

Nope

>>22844174

>>22844164 (OP)
stop worshiping a jew

>>22844164 (OP)
All the /pol/ Christians are fucking fakers and faggots. Go worship you stick jew you cretins.

Also kek 99.9 of Christians are not anti Semitic unlike you so you are a godamn joke worshipping a jew while hating jews. I denounce the Talmud and I denounce your anti European religion.

>>22844177
>>22844178
>Now the eleven disciples went to Galilee, to the mountain to which Jesus had directed them. And when they saw him they worshiped him, but some doubted. And Jesus came and said to them, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, to the end of the age.”
>Matthew 28:16-20 (ESV)

>>22844177
I’m not faking it

>>22844178
99% of Christians are not even Christians at all.

>>22844164 (OP)
Jew here
Where is your wedding garment?

>>22844181
Of course you would think that. You fucking hate white people, so I hate you.

>>22844183
Not all Christians are white. Not all white people are Christians.

>>22844181
JEHOVAH’S WITNESSES FOUNDER in HELL

We continued walking and the Lord showed me a white man whose hands were stretched out and the surprising thing about this man is that he had a very fine sword inside his tongue and this sword crossed through his head and was coming out of his body. His feet were grabbed by chains and his back was full of blades set in different positions in a way that no matter how he moved, he would be cut.

When I saw this man in this condition, I told Jesus, ‘Lord, please help him. Do something Lord Jesus. Look at the horrendous pain that this man is going through.’

The Lord asked me, ‘Do you know who this man is?

‘No, Lord’, I said. I saw how the knives go through his skin and then through the bones and how they came out of his body. The man only screamed in agony.’

The Lord told me, ‘Judgment against this man has been established. Now I am going to tell you the identity of this man. Because of that revelation, you will have to run from city to city because this will cause you a great persecution but I will be with you.’

He went on to say ‘Rodolfo, this man is Charles T. Russell’.

I said ‘Lord, who is he?’

The Lord said, ‘This man was the founder of the Jehovah’s Witnesses.’

https://z3news.com/w/evangelist-rodolfo-acevedo-hernandez-heaven-hell/

>>22844185
>>22844184
I pleaded, ‘Lord, please help him.’

The Lord said, ‘No, Rodolfo’. And as the Lord moved his hands, immediately I saw that many souls were falling into hell in every way possible, head first, feet first, stomach first etc.

‘Rodolfo, for that cursed man, all these souls are entering into hell. This man taught that God was only a God of love. The Bible says God is a consuming fire. This man Charles Russell took the word hell from the Bible and he took out all the words sheol and Abaddon. Also, he denied the deity of Jesus Christ and also denied the deity of the Holy Spirit and he put only the Word Jehovah in the Bible. He took out Jesus and the Holy Spirit. For this cursed man, all these souls are falling into hell.’ (Rev 22:18-19). Then the Lord said: ‘I curse that man’

Please Jehovah Witness that is listening to me at this moment, I don’t want to offend you. Get out of that sect and come to Jesus quickly. I don’t hate you and I don’t hate your religion either but you are in a farce. Come to Jesus. He is waiting for you with open hands. Charles Russell is in hell because he taught lies!! Don’t follow his lies. When we left this place, these prison doors closed and caught fire and this man Charles Taze Russell cried and screamed and cursed Jesus repeatedly because Jesus said, ‘The judgment has been set for this man’.

>>22844164 (OP)
Christ is not a god. He is mortal, which means he is a deceiver and his religion is fake

>>22844184
The left side can only be seen with no Abrahamic religion and a white race that knows and lives it's inherent superiority.

>>22844164 (OP)
Let us stay in the service of The Lord.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QVAAHst83c

>>22844164 (OP)
>denomination
Is there a single based denomination of Christianity or are they all gay. Want one that believes the Crusades were just, and that don't believe niggers are human, and knows the jews are satans followers, oh and kills gays and pedos

>>22844190
Why did god create niggers? He is a fucking retard.

> God bless you /pol/.
Thats ironic
>No matter your denomination,
It’s almost like the illusion of choice is an illusion
>come and discuss our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ - who died for our sins.
Aren’t these concepts created by the same God? Why do I need God to save me from this things that God made?

>>22844164 (OP)
Opinions on the opinion of jews on Jesus Christ not being the Messiah?

Also how do you even know that’s what Jesus looked like? If Jesus was a brown man would you still follow your God?

> FOUNDER in HELL

Believe it or not jews who are “pure evil” don’t have a hell so why do Christians need an endless torture chamber?

>>22844194
>But the Lord said to Samuel, “Do not look on his appearance or on the height of his stature, because I have rejected him. For the Lord sees not as man sees: man looks on the outward appearance, but the Lord looks on the heart.”
>1 Samuel 16:7 (ESV)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuQz5oEzPow

>>22844164 (OP)
Hello fellow christian, how are you doing ?

>>22844190
Jehovah's Witnesses are the truest and most purest form of Christianity similar to that of the 1st Century Christians. We are the only ones following the Bible to a tee.

Our primary message is that of God's Kingdom now ruling in heaven by Jesus Christ who has been enthroned as King. We use God's name and teach it to others openly. We are the only ones actively preaching the message from your local neighborhoods, your local businesses, to missionary work in the most distance lands in the world. All of this without shedding one drop of blood or firing one bullet at an enemy.

JW are the only Christian sect who's members have never participated in any major war throughout their 100+ year history. In fact, they were imprisoned in the LOLacaust for refusing to war for Hitler WHILE they were imprisoned in the US for refusing to war for the US. Right now, there are JW in prison in Uzebekistan, South Korea, and Armenia for refusing military service. A few months ago Russia officially banned their work for refusing to be nationalistic. They are the most innocent of all the sects.

Here's a video we made for the children.

https://toronto.citynews.ca/2016/05/05/jehovahs-witness-video-under-fire-for-homophobic-message/

>>22844197
Pray for me, brother.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjXPiKt6MFM

>>22844196
How do you know that ESV isn’t the wrong version? Why are you showing me a random image and random YouTube link? Also if Jesus is white why isn’t it mentioned your ESV version?

>>22844198
>neither will they be convinced if someone should rise from the dead.
>Luke 16:31b

>>22844200

>>22844198
So what do you guys also think jesus is god and also believe in the trinity?

>>22844164 (OP)
Fuck off Jew worshipper
>>22844173
>you MUST worship the Jew
I will not

>>22844198
1. That’s not how you pronounce His name, the letter “j” was not known in that part of the world.
2. Ascribing a single name (not even realizing that the Tetragrammaton is an acronym) to the infinite creator of the universe is idolatry.

Hope this helps!

I hate the concept of "nondenominational Christians." I don't care if you're if you're Baptist, Presbyterian, Catholic, Adventist, Mormon, whatever. You do you. The people who are all "It's all Jesus, bro :^)" can go straight to hell. That only tells me you have not done the correct amount of introspection or research to understand what you believe and who else believes like you. If there are communities of people out there that believe that Jesus wants them to use a horse and buggy, I promise there is someone who understands that scriptures in the same way you do. You don't have to hate or try to convert anyone who worships in a way other than yours, but you need to actually have one or you are just using the name of Jesus as a trick to ease either social pressure or your dread of the idea of nonexistence.

Christian’s need a hell to punish there enemies but forget about the paradox of why the tree was in the garden to begin, why the serpent was allowed. They don’t want to acknowledge the paradox. They want to acknowledge Adam and Eve was tricked which isn’t freewill (yes God mentioned it and told them not eat it) but then they have evil for no reason? If they do have freewill already why the need for the fruit? If they don’t then being tricked by serpent isn’t freewill. They ignore the plot hole which the jews cleverly made and blamed the serpent for quick convince but thousands of years later someone did notice. Me. Why do they lie?

>>22844164 (OP)
Why are christkikes like this?

>>22844206
>A predenominational Christian is a Christian or disciple of Christ who seeks to base all of his religious beliefs and practices upon the New Testament itself, starting with the teachings of the Lord Jesus Christ Himself. He desires to recover original New Testament Christianity, or the faith once delivered unto the saints. He is neither Catholic nor Protestant and rejects any and all Catholic and Protestant traditions that are inconsistent with or contrary to the New Testament, no matter how deeply-entrenced these traditions may have become. His overriding goal is to be true to Christ and true to the New Testament.

>And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. (Matthew 16:18, ESV)

All they do is lie and play mind games instead of accepting they don’t have the answers and can’t accept that we have a creator who doesn’t care which is ironic because they’re the ones who preach hell

Who said our maker owed us an afterlife? I could cherry pick dick cutting verses which en eternal bean that made made can change its mind to?

>>22844207
>Why do they lie?
What is Truth?

I love these posts, it shows that NOBODY reads the Greek.

Jesus did not die for our sins, infact modern day christianity is literally a controlled opposition faith for the last 1000 years.

The guy you worship as a literal God, was arrested with a Naked Kid, in a public park, at 4am, high on drugs, with massive boner (side effects of the drugs, which was christed on his forehead) and told the Roman guards that, "I'm not a Lestes" Child Trafficker

Thats why there was a angry mob, thats why they demanded him to be crucified and why he was crucified between two other Lestes.

But what they didn't plan on was the fact that Jesus was arrested in the middle of performing a Mystery cult drug rite that brings you into death and resurrection.
Its why they reported Jesus dying early on the Cross to Pilate. He didn't die from the crucifixion, he went into death from the drugs and was given the antidote after being placed into his tomb. Thats why when the women came to the tomb, all they found was a Fresh boy wearing white linen (initiates garb) meaning he got the Antidote

For those who don't study Ancient Greek, The whole Christ/Anti-Christ is part of an ancient mystery cult drug system. The entire biblical hebrew narrative is literally the Kikes attempt to hijack the faith.

You god was a literal child trafficking pedophile who was crucified for being such.

>>22844164 (OP)

God needs God to save me from God and things God made yet God still makes conjoined twins. Love is discrimination? I’m smarter than the man with a 271 IQ on Twitter who says Jesus is God?

>>22844164 (OP)
Look at Christianity for what it really is - history's most successful psychological abuse program masquerading as salvation. These spiritual narcissists have perfected their mask of divine love while systematically breaking down and reprogramming victims for 2000 years. They'll love-bomb you with promises of meaning and community, then once you're hooked, they'll mindfuck you with eternal torture threats, inherited guilt, and manufactured hatred - all while gaslighting you into thinking this abuse is divine love. And just like any abuser, they've convinced their victims to defend their own psychological torture.

The absolute state of Christian anons proves how deep this abuse runs. These broken victims are so thoroughly programmed they're now eagerly carrying out their abusers' agenda, desperately trying to drag more isolated and vulnerable users into their cult of psychological torture. They're like the textbook abuse victim who becomes an abuser themselves - so warped by centuries of inherited trauma and manipulation that they think spreading their mental disease is somehow righteous. They're nothing but useful idiots perpetuating the oldest running psychological operation in human history while thinking they're "saving" people.

I don’t understand the Christian and I don’t think even the Christian understands the Christian either because look at how much interpretation there is. They even brag about it by saying “I’m apart of this version so my version is right!”

>>22844212
https://youtu.be/Hr2Bc5qMhE4

And when everybody’s an Abrahamist,
Nobody willl Be.

>>22844164 (OP)
thanks but i was born a free man, not a slave or a debtor. i don't owe the king of the jews for existing
>>22844165
stop making stuff up

>>22844208
>Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness. (Matthew 7:21-23, ESV)

>>22844216
>I don’t understand the Christian and I don’t think even the Christian understands the Christian either because look at how much interpretation there is. They even brag about it by saying “I’m apart of this version so my version is right!”
What is Truth?

The irony in Christians accepting a God who plays mind games and can burn people forever but can’t accept a real God who doesn’t have to care and doesn’t need to owe us a thing for making us
The deeper the rabbit hole goes

Christian’s are just scared to die

>>22844209
That's still a belief system, and actively practiced in specific congregations. I promise you there is a "Church of Christ" not far from your house. You also know full well that this is separate from the phenomenon I was talking about.

>>22844165
I love the people telling you to stop making shit up, but they can't read the Greek, because if they could, its literally all there.

>>22844164 (OP)
God bless you too. Let's leave this IDF net-weaving forum and follow Him

I remember someone once said about Christians need a hell because they need answer so desperately for why life has suffering and the need to justify that suffering only to not see everyone and everything and every concept even me typing some from God but they think God is limited to petty mind games and can’t know a person the very made made God made

>>22844193
If we are strictly talking about the religions Jews then most of them are like Paul. They are zealous but blinded and mislead by their leaders and Satan.

There are some who know the truth that the Messiah is/was Jesus Christ. Some hide it out of fear of losing their comforts and social status. Some will go full blown anti-christ and alter text to deny the OT from leading to Jesus. Others have made the sacrifice and accepted Jesus.

All they want is the reward of heaven and to justify the existence of suffering with hell. Thats what a Christian is.
If Jesus said everyone would go to hell they sure wouldn’t think that’s God but everything comes from God

It’s a paradox in the human mind

>>22844221
>be the Pharaoh
>decided to let the jews go
>god says nope
Nice free will

>>22844226

The reason Christians get so much hate is because it’s obvious that kikes and sand nigs are evil, but the Christians think of themselves as the hero’s of the story

Even what is good and evil if everyone acts the same and has there versions of right and wrong. I’m a hypocrite here

>>22844224
>While walking by the Sea of Galilee, he saw two brothers, Simon (who is called Peter) and Andrew his brother, casting a net into the sea, for they were fishermen. And he said to them, “Follow me, and I will make you fishers of men.” Immediately they left their nets and followed him. And going on from there he saw two other brothers, James the son of Zebedee and John his brother, in the boat with Zebedee their father, mending their nets, and he called them. Immediately they left the boat and their father and followed him.
>Matthew 7:21-23 (ESV)

>>22844212
Love isn’t just an emotion — it’s a state that includes reason, will, and action.
Jesus showed this:

> “Love your enemies.” (Matt 5:44)
Not a feeling — a command. A choice.
Other emotions override logic (anger, fear).
But real love includes rationality — it thinks long-term, considers others, and chooses what’s right.

That’s why you can think clearly while loving.
Because love, in the fullest sense, uses reason — not ignores it.

> I love these posts, it shows that NOBODY reads the Greek.

The orthodox Bible is based on the septuagint so you are wrong there. We owe it to the greeks for the Bible.

I don’t hate Christian’s nor Jesus but I don’t like mind games

The Mystery Initiation of the Christ

Your God.

>>22844164 (OP)
I love Jesus Christ.
I once had a vision of my death, Jesus was there, welcoming me.
Happiest moment in my life.

Jesus Christ bless Iran Amen

>>22844203
>So what do you guys also think jesus is god and also believe in the trinity?

No, Jesus is not God. He is a distinct individual from God. The Trinity is a pagan doctrine and Greek philosophy belief.

>>22844205
Nobody knows how his name is to be pronounced because there were no audio recording devices back then to hear anything. Jehovah is the accepted proper pronunciation in English.

>>22844205
>2. Ascribing a single name (not even realizing that the Tetragrammaton is an acronym) to the infinite creator of the universe is idolatry.

(Isaiah 42:8) “I am Jehovah. THAT IS MY NAME; and to no one else shall I give my own glory, neither my praise to graven images.

(Psalm 83:18) That people may know that you, WHOSE NAME IS JEHOVAH, YOU ALONE are the Most High over all the earth.

(Ezekiel 36:23) ‘And I shall certainly sanctify my great name, which was being profaned among the nations, which YOU profaned in the midst of them; and the nations will have to know that I am Jehovah,’...

(Ezekiel 38:23) And I shall certainly magnify myself and sanctify myself and make myself known before the eyes of many nations; and they will have to know that I am Jehovah.’

>>(Matthew 6:9, 10) “YOU must pray, then, this way: “‘Our Father in the heavens, let your name be sanctified.

>(John 17:6) “I(JESUS) have made your name manifest to the men you gave me out of the world. They were yours, and you gave them to me, and they have observed your word.

>(John 17:26) And I(JESUS) have made your name known to them and will make it known, in order that the love with which you loved me may be in them and I in union with them.”

>(Hebrews 2:12) as he says: “I(JESUS) will declare your name to my brothers; in the middle of [the] congregation I will praise you with song.”

>(Psalm 22:22) I(JESUS) will declare your name to my brothers; In the middle of the congregation I shall praise you.

I guess one thing is equal in this world

We will end up in the same place in the end

Death

https://youtu.be/OobVFldn6As?si=9rZYjmIMn2YmybWA


>the story has gotten more intense and serious

>>22844164 (OP)
God bless you too and God shower blessings upon all! We have the most wonderful friend in Christ.

"Godmade all things for Hishonour andglory. Every creature was to manifest His Divine perfections by becoming a likeness ofGod, each according to its capacity. Butman is capable of becoming in the greatest and most perfect manner a likeness ofGod, when he knows and loves Hisinfiniteperfections with aknowledgeandloveanalogous toGod's ownloveandknowledge. Thereforemaniscreatedtoknow Godand toloveHim. Moreover, thisknowledgeandloveis to beeternal; for such isman'scapability and his calling, because hissoulisimmortal. Lastly, toknowGodand toloveHim is the noblest occupation of thehumanmind, and consequently also its supremehappiness. Thereforemaniscreatedforeternal happiness; and he willinfalliblyattain it hereafter, unless, bysin, he renders himself unworthy of so high a destiny."

>>22844233
you're quoting english translations

Christ is a Drug, Anti-Christ is "Antidote"

What you're quoting is literal fairytale.

congrats, you played yourself.

>>22844164 (OP)
Ye and ressurected right after, lmao, so much for sacrifice.
Also sins dont exist, jewish made up shit to make you feel guilty about existing and doing what they want to get rid of sins, which dont exist.
Go die for israel zogbot

>>22844164 (OP)
Jesus was a Jew. Christians are Jews. Jews are destroying the world. Tell a friend.

Praise the lord!

>makes thread for Christians
>Shills and browns immediately flood it
Jewish shills are so stupid lol

>>22844228
it never happened.

All Stories produced and written around 300BC

In a way everyone is the hero of their own story in this war of different worlds and view points

>>22844244
>tell me you haven't read the bible, without telling me you haven't read the bible

Jesus Christ is Lord

>>22844167
>god wants you to repent
Lol hes such a faggot

I'm drunk.
When I was in a deeply emotional state because of some stressful personal circumstances, I witnessed a sunbeam through the clouds in the form of a cross when I looked up at the sky. I started to cry.
I'm still looking for a sign like that every day.

Humans are the most advanced creature in existence. We have the ability to form concepts that go beyond our need to survive. Why does one need to survive? These questions are who we are

if you think reality works like in jewish fairy tales, then you deserve to have your intelligence and understanding hardcapped at the levels of midwit jewish fishermen 2000 years ago
people wouldnt need a bible or for other people to indoctrinate them about jesus if he were god, theyd have ways of independent verification, to come to the same conclusion without requiring 50 synagogues renamed as churches every square block to corral their cattle
they wouldnt need to rewrite endings of gospels because they werent kosher enough if it was actually a divine word
jew worshippers will hoop jump to unimaginable levels trying to reconcile a jewish person who follows torah (ergo being a jewish supremacist who believes its a divine duty to conquer and enslave all non-jews) calling white women dogs to their faces and telling people to hate everyone who loves them even though it breaks the 5th jewish elites larping as god's commandment. then, when something is categorically disproven or inapplicable, theyll try to claim it was really metaphorical, and when that doesnt work, go so far as to claim you need to ignore jesus in order to follow jesus, when the more obvious conclusion is jews were wrong and made it all up in order to disarm you while they wage a war to permenantly enslave you and everyone whose not jewish thatd they lose instantly on a battlefield, so employing useful idiot golems to do it for them becomes a requirement because there is no divine truth backing them and its all just been two millenias of atheist-in-all-but-name traitors fucking over their own people for the benefit of jews
just be smarter than jews, thats really all you gotta do. when youre able to do that, you will no longer need jews to tell about divine things.

Everyone has another thing in common. Maybe man really was created in the image of God because all we do is talk about God

>>22844238
Ok then you are good to go in my books.

>>22844170
I feel like this image just describes the human condition.

People weren’t given the answers and all we have is interpretations

Winners and Losers
Winners get heaven
Losers get hell

Is this right?

>>22844251
Occurrence:

During my sleep I had this dream. In this dream on three separate occasions, I was moving on an escalator and during these movements I’ve found myself completely changed in the blinking of an eye. My whole body had changed into a different person, and that shocked me. I noticed that even the people around me noticed my change. I could sense this powerful spiritual power inside of me, and all around me. This occurrence was so powerful it awakened me from my sleep.

Prophecy:

Then the Lord said, “Do as I tell you, write what I say. The more a person seeks the Lord, truly in their heart, they will find this transformation. This will not be like in man’s words, but truly I tell you, the Power of the Holy Spirit will fill My True Followers. My People will know beyond a shadow of a doubt, they have become Spirit filled Christians. This transformation will transform people into the Army of God. My Glory will be in this person with the Power and Might, and the Doors of Heaven will be opened to them. My Children seek Me, and you will find Me. For all the Power of God is in My Spirit now and forever.

Remember adultery, idolatry, lies, stealing, seeking the things of this world, mean death to you forever. Leave Satan and this world, and seek your God and Savior and live forever in Heaven. Read and listen to My Word for the end is before you. So be it! So be it! So be it!”

>>22844164 (OP)
DEUS VULT my fellow goys, I mean christians.
Let us fight for our holy land which is Israel and protect God's chosen people.

I wonder why God didn’t give us a manual. I guess they will consider the Bible this but then which one?

/pol/ being reduced to schizophrenic desert cult mythology because their handlers said so is both hilarious and sad, what a bunch of idiots

>>22844258
Nope. Winners get paradise earth. Only a small remnant will go to heaven.

Losers will be given a resurrection in that new paradise earth as a second chance. If they change they can stay. If they don't then back to oblivion.

>>22844261
All Bibles are the same. Just different translations. The problem isn't the content within the Bible that is altered, the problem trusting that the translator didn't allow his own personal bias to slip in.

>>22844259
I cut my hair last week and straight after I did that, there was a thread on /pol/ that I read about how long hair and how we should not cut our hair and all that. Last night when I dreamt of having hair loss, I woke up because of that fear. I am never cutting my hair again.

The Trinity has to be the most nonsensical thing in the history of religion. That voodoo shit they do in Haiti is more logical.

>>22844266
The Trinity is a Helenistic philosophical idea and pagan belief. Not a Biblical teaching. We know this because of the definitions used to describe it: Essence, substance, nature, homoousios, and persons is all Greek metaphysical terms originating in Helenistic Philosophy going back to Plato and Aristotle. The word hypostatic union comes from hypostasis. It is a philosophical idea from Helenistic Greek Philosophy. The Trinity can only be supported with pagan doctrine. These terms and beliefs are not found in the Bible but in Plato, Aristotle, and Pythagoras. The Trinity can be traced back through old triad gods, Greek Philosophy, and Hindu avatarism.

The definitions of the Trinity itself: Essence, substance, nature, homoousios, persons, hypostatic union are from Plato, Aristotle, and Pythagoras all taught these centuries before Jesus was born. Just trace "hypostatic union" on Wikipedia. It goes straight back to Plato, Aristotle and Neoplatonism.

Think about this: If I started using word like "Means of Labor," "bourgeoisie," "proletariat," "Base and superstructure" and called myself a Libertarian you'd all cry foul and accuse me of being a Marxist and Communist. Why? Because all my terminology used to describe "Libertarian" ideology is all Marxist in nature. You would all call me a fraud.

Why not with the Trinty? That's where the entire definition of the Trinity comes from. None of the terminologies, definitions, and understanding of the Trinity comes from the Bible. It all comes from Greek Philosophy, Stoicism, Hindus, and Pagans.

>>22844238
lol @ having to change the name of "god" to make it more palatable to goyim. what a fuckin joke.

Christianity is the bdsm of religions

>>22844218
kek

>>22844232
Why do mormons think that whites are gods chosen people descended from Seth?

>>22844171
Why are JWs so insistent on calling it a "torture stake" and not a cross upon which Christ was crucified? Crucifixion was a common form of execution with tons of historical examples. And why are JWs so against marking the symbolism and importance of the cross?

>>22844164 (OP)

>>22844267
The trinity is neo-platonism mutilated. The platonic idea is in this order

>God (Father)
>Intellect (Logos/Jesus)
>Spirit

but the christians mutilated this order and made them equal.

>>22844268
Matityahu gets me every time lol
cant forget Moshe aka Moses, and Shlomo aka Solomon either

>>22844170
This has been said for hundreds of years.
Yeah it all maps, but it has mapped even more so in the past 2 world wars.

>>22844267
What book covers this

>>22844274
we wuz greeks n shiiiiettt

>>22844252
Because it is better to survive than not survive

>>22844278
Jesus is the synergy of Greek philosophy and Judaic revelations.

>>22844274
ps those labels are meant to be applied *ironically* btw
if you think this is 'gnosis' or these people are in any way "gnostic" then youre probably stupid enough to believe in the holocaust and hamas cooking 40 dead babies in ovens

>>22844171
Why do I only ever see jehovas witnesses evangelizing?

I see them CONSTANTLY on every corner with their watchtower or whatever pamphlets offering free bible studies.
They also approach me often. Even though I'm hoodies on, earphones in, no eye contact all the time.
I had a long talk with one of them, he was an older gentleman at a bus stop 10 years ago, almost convinced me to be honest.
I never see a catholic or a protestant or others do so.
Also these dudes are usually tall blonde dudes in shape with a genuineness in their voice and how they carry themselves.
It's clear to me they aren't just doing some chore forced upon them. It's insane.
I'm almost regretful for dismissing them every time.
If I didn't read so many cult stories about them I'd join based on optics alone.

Are they the most faithful Christians today?

>>22844281
>ps those labels are meant to be applied *ironically* btw
how so?

>>22844272
What you are unaware of is the the word cross is latin for Crux. That word was was taken from the words from Greek "Stauros" and "xylon." The Gospel writers all use xylon to refer to the staves or clubs that the mob carried when they came to take Jesus. (See Matthew 26:47, 55; Mark 14:43, 48; Luke 22:52.) The same word was used to describe Christ impaled on a Xylon, or a wooden club/stick.

They also used the word "Stauros" for Christ as well. Stauros means tree, pole, stake, pile where as Xylon just means wood. What you need to be aware of is that the idea of "cross" back then only meant stick and pole. Not two crossed sticks together. In fact, that's how the Romans use to execute prisoners, on poles, not actual crosses.

The concept of using a cross comes from Pagan religions. They used crosses in their religions so the apostates of the ancient world adopted it, like Christmas, to make it easier to convert pagans.

>>22844274
The Trinity is not Biblical.

>>22844276
It's now more apparent.

>>22844277
https://www.jw.org/finder?wtlocale=E&pub=ti&srcid=share

>>22844207
>>22844221
Nigga why you posting undertale/deltarune?
you just woke me from my tinkering slumber just to get mad.

see what you have done.

>>22844282
>Are they the most faithful Christians today?

>(Matthew 7:16, 17) By their fruits YOU will recognize them. Never do people gather grapes from thorns or figs from thistles, do they? 17Likewise every good tree produces fine fruit, but every rotten tree produces worthless fruit;

>(Proverbs 20:11) Even by his practices a boy makes himself recognized as to whether his activity is pure and upright.

>(Matthew 7:17) Likewise every good tree produces fine fruit, but every rotten tree produces worthless fruit;

The religion is the tree. The produce, or fruit, is the people. True religion is identified by the people it produces. False religion produces rotten people, true religion produces good people.

>(John 13:35) By this all will know that YOU are my disciples, if YOU have love among yourselves.”

>(1 John 4:20) If anyone makes the statement: “I love God,” and yet is hating his brother, he is a liar. For he who does not love his brother, whom he has seen, cannot be loving God, whom he has not seen.


Which Christendom religion on earth has shed no blood, shed no tears, and involved in no politics, no wars, no money scams?

>>22844215
>meaning and community
There are no modern day alternatives if you want those.

>>22844266
Monotheism as a whole makes no sense. Society is subject to hierarchy as everything that exists. You are absolutely nothing to the creator, this is a far superior being who has absolutely no reason to interact with the lower ones. He thinks about your existence as much as you think about the existence and problems of microbes

>>22844288
>He thinks about your existence as much as you think about the existence and problems of microbes
God doesn't think. God knows everything at every time.

>>22844280
Jesus is the embodiment of an NPC who calls men like daniel who speak of history and backdate their work to deceive people and men who get swallowed by whales and live inside their bellies for 3 days and fictional characters like Moses (lit. "Moshe") as "prophets"
He celebrates holidays for fake jewish exoduses out of egypt, even though we have historical evidence showing it never happened and jews made the entire thing up.

>>22844289
And? The result is the same. God can't or doesn't want to help everyone

>>22844290
Prince of Egypt was a good movie though. Really shows how evil jews are

>>22844288
I like taoism. Makes no real historical truth claims to dispute and isn't overtly Chinese either.

>>22844242

Love is everything my friend. One day I hope you will come to understand this.

Nobody can die for your sins
Just like nobody can do push-ups for you
Stop being fucking retards. you have to do the work to polish yourself (lead to gold)

>>22844293
Give me a three sentence qrd

>>22844164 (OP)
lets encourage people to preach against mr. obama

>>22844280
>>22844290
whereas greek philosophy actually revolutionizes the way we think and often comes up with new concepts. people everywhere actually understand because applies seamlessly to the real world. when you factor in the population of Athens was only like 10,000 it becomes all the more impressive
jews on the other hand, break their brains trying to understand the simplest parts of greek philosophy that even a toddler can understand. they dumb down everyone around them in the process, human progress stagnates, until people manage to break through the jewish-christian firewall of censorship and reads the greeks. then suddenly there are enlightenments and epitomes, new ways of thinking, human progress suddenly resumes and leaps forward and we are back on a divine footing.
the two literally couldnt be further apart, jews and greeks are antithetical to one another.

I've always been non-religious but lately have started becoming Christian and praying and talking to God but am struggling to keep the faith. How can I be more consistent and devout bros?

>>22844296
See and accept the world for what it is.
Go with the flow, don't try to force things like trying to be a dragon when you are born a fish.
When you are on the right path effort is not required.

>>22844300
Neet

>>22844290
>jewish exoduses out of egypt
Moses brought back the jews to Egypt not the other way around, this is meant of course metaphorically.

>>22844291
Why did God create creation?

>>22844298
Jesus attempted and succeeded in bringing Greek thought to the masses.

>>22844299
Rid yourself of the heresy(common in evangelist) that is dispensationatalism that turns you into a shabbos got

>>22844295
his death for our sins was simply for salvation

we are still to do good works, even more so now

Pilate questioned Him, "Are You the King of the Jews?" And He answered: "It is as you say."
Mark 15:2

Imagine praying to the king of jews

>>22844301
Up for interpretation.
I view it more like everyone has a natural gift, and if you are gifted at technical stuff and have arthritis then trying to force becoming a painter is retarded.
If you follow the path that comes natural to you you will be in accordance with the "way" and you avoid misery, both physical and mental anguish.
Same can done for relationships or whatever you want.
I like it because it is an easy to apply philosophy that works really well with my already somewhat deterministic worldview.
You can call me a retard all you want, it's fine I know it's not for everyone.
I'd be fine with Christianity too if it didn't make so many factual claims that people pick apart.
Basically if Christianity was a philosophy it would be more appealing to me than the traditions of Abraham and his lineage.

>>22844266
Explain these three things;
Why does God say "let us make man in our image"? Who is 'our'?
Why does God say man "is like us and knows good and evil"? How does God know (experience) evil?
Why does David say "the Lord said to my Lord"? (Psalm 110)

>>22844165
>>22844223
are you calling God a hypocrite?

And calling to him a child, he put him in the midst of them 3 and said, “Truly, I say to you, unless you turn and become like children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven. 4 Whoever humbles himself like this child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven.

5 “Whoever receives one such child in my name receives me, 6 but whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin,[a] it would be better for him to have a great millstone fastened around his neck and to be drowned in the depth of the sea.

>>22844307
the god of the bible is a condensed version of the sumerian pantheon of several gods

>>22844306
No. It was a pun.
Neat as in cool
Neet as in it is a similar messagr that neetchads have

>>22844292
i dont watch movies, because its always either jewish nonsense, or some jew's interpretation and vision of someone's elses work, which 9,999 times out 10,000 results in more jewish nonsense.
i just read books. dont have to dumb myself down to the level of a jew and their slaves most of the time and can easily identify whose a based Noticer who perceives things as they are, or some wellpoisoned npc who believes in magic jews or other jewish nonsense whose been lobotomized beyond redemption whose unknowingly acting as vehicle for more jewish nonsense.
if you cant even notice jews, youre probably not worth my time unless its fiction, and even then.. sometimes its not
and 99 times out of 100 you gotta weed out all the christcucks who thinks jews are gods or superhumans who are capable of slaying gods and shit and unironically believe jews are living in whales stomachs for three days until someone tells them its metaphor and cant just simply say "they ripped that story off from the greeks and just made perseus all fucking annoying, whiny and jewish and now the story is unbelievable and supernatural instead of actually possible fuck this bullshit fuck kikes tkd"

>>22844307
>Why does God say "let us make man in our image"? Who is 'our'?

I think it means that the Universal Intellect (Logos) that creates, made man in it's own image, meaning man having the capacity of thought.

>Why does God say man "is like us and knows good and evil"? How does God know (experience) evil?

God knows everything so he knows evil, but God doesn't experience, because experience is a function of time and he is beyond time.
>Why does David say "the Lord said to my Lord"? (Psalm 110)
The first Lord is the Father and the second Lord is Jesus (Intellect).

>>22844164 (OP)
God bless you too frens! <(^-^<)

>>22844198
you dont even believe that Jesus existed before creation.

>>22844311
Im not a christcuck.

>>22844309
Humanity didn't come to know God in one day. It took us many centuries to understanding that God is one and beyond our experience. This line of thought that the biblical God is derived from earlier versions of gods, and somehow this invalidates him, is quite silly.

>>22844307
If you are truly seeking answers to all the reddit gotchas look up askcliffe

>>22844313
God bless! (*^▽^*)

>>22844175
Sorry, nope. Not gonna do it.

>>22844181
Based schizo.

>>22844184
>all pictures on the right are from America (the black heart of Christianity)

>>22844302
This is a cycle + function. Every creature has its own function. Which god is the highest is debatable because it depends on the point from which you look. The main one in the pantheon, the creator of the universe, the creator of universes, the owner of the earth, the deity of the primordial void? There are many of them. And the number of worlds is also numerous

I can explain orthodox Christian theology if anyone actually wants to hear rather than participate in masturbatory self patting on the back

>>22844238
>No, Jesus is not God.
you dont even follow the most basic scripture.

John 1
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made through him, and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4 In him was life,[a] and the life was the light of men. 5 The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it.

6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John. 7 He came as a witness, to bear witness about the light, that all might believe through him. 8 He was not the light, but came to bear witness about the light.

9 The true light, which gives light to everyone, was coming into the world. 10 He was in the world, and the world was made through him, yet the world did not know him. 11 He came to his own,[b] and his own people[c] did not receive him. 12 But to all who did receive him, who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God, 13 who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God.

14 And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we have seen his glory, glory as of the only Son[d] from the Father, full of grace and truth. 15 (John bore witness about him, and cried out, “This was he of whom I said, ‘He who comes after me ranks before me, because he was before me.’”) 16 For from his fullness we have all received, grace upon grace.[e] 17 For the law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ. 18 No one has ever seen God; the only God,[f] who is at the Father's side,[g] he has made him known.

>>22844322
There is only one God and no one beside him. He is the God of this universe and any other universe other than it. But you pose a very difficult question, if this universe of ours isn't the only one then is the Logos creating it the same Logos working in the other universes? difficult question.

>>22844312
>I think it means that the Universal Intellect (Logos) that creates, made man in it's own image, meaning man having the capacity of thought.

> For of him, and through him, and to him, are all things
>All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
> For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him.
All things were created through Jesus. Meaning all things were created to be saved by Jesus.

>God knows everything so he knows evil, but God doesn't experience, because experience is a function of time and he is beyond time.

>For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell;
>For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
>who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:
>And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.
God suffered the wage of our sins.

>>22844323
Redpill us on georgian orthodox vs armenian monophysvite

>>22844322
Typical Russian possessed by schizophasiac nonsense from 90s new age esotericism created by literal Jewish Talmudic sects and their derivative mystics be it hermetic, mason or other traditions.
I wish more people on /pol/ knew just how deeply is complete satanic esotericism rooted in Russian culture, sadly, starting from the era of Catherine 2nd.

>>22844324
Ask him about 1st Timothy 3:16 and watch him squirm and slither his way out with pilpul.

>>22844302
see, youve got the same issue christcucks have that i mentioned here >>22844253
both of you are so committed to your own jewish psyops you will go so far as to believe something means the opposite of what it says, rather than do the sensible thing and just accept the jews who wrote the fiction were either lying kikes or retarded jews.
so long as you do this, you are spiritually semitic and there is no path forward for your soul, youre stuck until you Notice and begin provessing reality in its raw form

>>22844324
The Word/Logos/Universal Intellect/Jesus is by which God creates the world. But they are not God nor equal to him. This is basic Neo-Platonism.

>>22844215
Funnily enough there is a relatively recent Forward (jew4jew publication) article on how Jews failed to penetrare China because of a lack of Christianity.

>>22844218
mercy and grace is free, you cant work your sins off. Jesus took every sin upon himself for you.
you are not born free, you are born under satan. Jesus blood bought your freedom from him.

>>22844322
>the number of worlds is also numerous
proof?

>>22844315
i wasnt talking about you, but im glad to hear it.

>>22844209
>pic
Pure narcissism.

>>22844326
>All things were created through Jesus. Meaning all things were created to be saved by Jesus.
Agree.

>God suffered the wage of our sins.

God doesn't suffer. This is absolute nonsense.

>>22844196
Notice how this shill is literally posting screen shots from a zio propaganda series.

>>22844330
I still don't understand why my position is a jew psyop.

>>22844337
>God doesn't suffer. This is absolute nonsense.
God is not indifferent to our suffering which is why He came to this world to suffer for our sins. Else God is not loving if He had merely created Jesus as a scapegoat for our sins.

>>22844339
Hook me up with an invite code to becoming a small hat member.

>>22844340
So by your logic, before God came to earth to suffer like us, he didn't know how this felt?

>>22844340
Why not just wave you hand and say I forgice you of your sins? No weird humiliation ritual required

>>22844341
I'm not a jew Magyar fren

>>22844327
Orthodoxy is one.
In orthodox theory salvation is contingent on the fact that by uniting human and divine essence in a single hypostasis, personhoods, humans can subsist on uncreatedeness itself hence why eternal life becomes possible through the body of Christ. It is a very important distinction that most Christian denominations do not emphasize, that God is beyond -temporal and pre-sequential, he is effectively outside of time which is why Father can have eternal acts like spiration of the spirit. It is necessary for the union of human nature and divine nature to happen at the linchpin of Christ hypostasis because this gives us a chance to, by emulating the icon of the father which is Christ, enter into a divine communion with uncreated energies of God.
All forms of miaphysitism, monophostism etc. and variations of it ultimately try to attribute a new nature to Christ hypostasis, some kind of a different incarnate state. If this is the case then we can not achieve true salvation because Christ is not literally fully a human, he instead has a new incarnate demigod nature instead of a fully human and fully divine nature that are connected at the person of Christ.

>>22844342
> And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

>>22844334
Mandela effect and egregors. If it wasn't real then it wouldn't work but it's confirmed by personal experience

>>22844164 (OP)
I have no faith, I can't have it. why would god do something like this?

>>22844346
>> And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
Please don't quote Revelation, this is a schizo book writen by a nut. Even the crazy ones of the church fathers thought this book was bs.

>>22844343
Because letting sin go unpunished would not be a quality of holiness.

>>22844350
But it did go unpunished. The sinners were forgiven. Its the jewish chicken thing

>>22844312
"Us" is the trinity, the father is talking to the son and the holy spirit. There are many references to the trinity in the old testament.
Also, the thought that god is beyond time is depending on the christian denomination. Theres some orthodox thoughts that god know all that is, but the future isnt actually reality yet, he only knows all the possible options, not what actually is to come. My personal belief is that god gave us true free will, he doesnt know what were about to do before we actually do it (mby this is heresy idk)

>>22844314
Jesus is a unique son. He is God's ONLY-BEGOTTEN. What that means is that before Jesus came from heaven he was God's first creation ever. Then after Jesus was created, he used Jesus to make everything else. Jesus also calls himself "the only-begotten god" because he was originally a spirit being.

>(John 3:16) “For God loved the world so much that he gave his only-begotten Son,

>(John 1:18) No man has seen God at any time; the only-begotten god who is in the bosom [position] with the Father is the one that has explained him.

>Colossians 1:15 - He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation

>Revelations 3:14 - “... These are the things that the Amen says, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation by God,

Jesus is also God's firstborn. Not just his firstborn but also his very first creation. The only pagan belief is the Trinity that teaches Jesus is his own father. Anyone that believes that is not Christian.

>>22844349
Those are the words of Jesus Christ.
Here's Peter;
>who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you

>>22844190
Christian identity

>>22844351
>The sinners were forgiven.
Not by any effort of their own, but through faith in Christ are their sins forgiven.

>>22844348
Romans 10

14 How, then, can they call on the one they have not believed in? And how can they believe in the one of whom they have not heard? And how can they hear without someone preaching to them? 15 And how can anyone preach unless they are sent? As it is written: “How beautiful are the feet of those who bring good news!”[g]

16 But not all the Israelites accepted the good news. For Isaiah says, “Lord, who has believed our message?”[h] 17 Consequently, faith comes from hearing the message, and the message is heard through the word about Christ.

>faith comes by hearing

>>22844348
God said obey, I’ll take care of you. Man said no. We are living in the result of Adam’s decision.

>>22844352
>the father is talking to the son and the holy spirit
So God is made up of 3 persons that spend their time chatting? this is really too funny to be taken seriously.

Responding to these anons here since the thread archived
>>508013421
>>508013571
both of these are incorrect
Jesus was a Nazarene therefore while he was nationally a jew it's unknown if he would have been ethnically jewish but if he was he still wasn't the same as the other jews in Judea. Based on genetic evidence from the region of Nazareth it's likely he was ethnically Iraqi - Iraqi jew or otherwise.
The images in picrel show what Iraqi jews look like and they do actually look somewhat similar to the earliest depictions of Jesus in artwork like the way his face and hair is often depicted and like the oldest known drawing of jesus (top right)

So while Jesus wouldn't have been some pure white aryan gigachad (as this is just nonsensical and makes no sense for the region and his parentage, nor is there any particular theological reason why God would incarnate Jesus like that), he also definitely didn't look like some brown-skinned manlet like the jew historians 'scientifically accurately' made up.

>>22844164 (OP)
I'm the seed of Jacob.

>>22844354
Again you keep quoting these fake gospels. The only real gospels are John, Luke, Matthew and Mark. All else are bs written later and that includes Paul's letters who is a made up character.

>>22844351
Christ paid the price for our sins. It’s up to you in turn to give your life up in exchange. Your life will no longer be yours. It belongs to God now. Study Bible. Pray. Learn how to make life decisions in a Christlike manner.

>>22844353
>he was God's first creation ever.

>hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high; being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.

>No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.

>>22844357
I heard, I still can't believe a creature? intelligence? whatever baing able to build the universe cares about me.
we aren't ants for him because we would be smaller than atoms.
>>22844358
>Adam's decision.
no, god decided to put eve on earth, and eve sinned

>>22844363
>Christ paid the price for our sins
Why would he do this? are we children or are we men? we pay for our sins each.

>>22844343
Because western theology forgot the salvific effect of Christ, see
>>22844345
God is in three hypostasis, the father is often associated with the infinite logoi which are the created and uncreated forms of all that can be, the son is often associated with the logos which is the word or the code which speaks logoi into reality thus logos manifests uncreated logoi outside of time into time into creation and into sequential reality where cause and effect exists, and the spirit of often associated with spiration and subsist creation as a glue or a medium for logos to operate.
Because God is outside of time God has literal full free will because he is not affected by cause and effect, he can will things ex-nihilo, fully without any reason other than him willing it to exist with no precognition and his will also similarly becomes manifest as reality literally, because of this liberating state God is the only one who is truly free.
Humans were created as the icon of God, humans as creation are by definition within sequential time thus our free will does not become manifest instantly, but we are called to be cocreators of God within creation because. He loves us so much as his icons that he wishes us to be like him in our own limited way within created reality.
The issue is that by definition we can be icons of God only with the free will we are given, which means that God needs to filter out humans that are actually willing to be like him and ready to emulate his attributes.
Because of this as humanity advanced in the fallen state eventually once we were ready God became incarnate as a literal fully human hypostasis, and then he lived a perfect life as an icon of God and showed ultimately that our strength comes from how much responsibility we can shoulder because if a man can shoulder responsibilities of the entire world and die for it he is the greatest man there is. Of course Christ is also fully logos, the son, literally the creator of all matter.

>>22844360
you don't have to speculate that far, the genetics of the region pre and post Rome are well understood, he'd look closest to Samaritans and Lebanese christians

>>22844353
then who interacted with Moses and Joshua in the OT?
only God is to be worshiped, yet Joshua worshiped a man. something even angels do not want.
and Moses interacted with and saw God's back.
Abraham was visited by God visibly and gave him and the 2 angels food.
even Adam and Eve knew God.
why then had God come to man in the flesh as Jesus Christ to reveal God the Father who is not visible to us?
Jesus Christ is the visible human image of God the Father who cant be seen.

>>22844253
Good, I hate them niggas anyway.

>>22844365
>I heard, I still can't believe a creature?
then pray to Jesus Christ to reveal himself to you.

>>22844165
Proverbs 12-19
12 A worthless person, a wicked man,
Walks with a perverse mouth;
13 He winks with his eyes,
He shuffles his feet,
He points with his fingers;
14 Perversity is in his heart,
He devises evil continually,
He sows discord.
15 Therefore his calamity shall come suddenly;
Suddenly he shall be broken without remedy.

16 These six things the Lord hates,
Yes, seven are an abomination to Him:
17 A proud look,
A lying tongue,
Hands that shed innocent blood,
18 A heart that devises wicked plans,
Feet that are swift in running to evil,
19 A false witness who speaks lies,
And one who sows discord among brethren.

>>22844250
Repentance means to change your mind

Romans 6:23
For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.

1 Corinthians 6:9-11
9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God.

Proverbs 5-7 are worth reading for both you.
John 14:6
Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.
John 15:1-4
15 “I am the true vine, and My Father is the vinedresser. 2 Every branch in Me that does not bear fruit He takes away; and every branch that bears fruit He prunes, that it may bear more fruit. 3 You are already clean because of the word which I have spoken to you. 4 Abide in Me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, unless it abides in the vine, neither can you, unless you abide in Me.

>>22844343
>>22844367
By being incarnate as Christ, fully human, and joined at the person of Christ with fully divine God, a path is created from human to divine. It is impossible for any human to walk that path alone and fully, but through the body of Christ we can by his grace infinitely walk this path and in walking this path itself we become like Christ and like the icon of God we were meant to be.
This is theosis, because as we infinitely and without end progress on the narrow road through faith, we infinitely and without end approach to be closer and closer to Christ who is literally God himself incarnate as full human.
Similarly upon eschaton those who have walked far along with Christ through faith will manifest deified bodies like that of Christ once reality will be both material and spiritual at the same time.

>>22844323
Theres a few Orthodox near me but it's pretty uncommon here in USA :> on the 8th the new Episcopal Bishop came over an I got to be the cruifer ^-^

>>22844371
>just pray bro

>>22844369
You are fully correct, the son is the eternally begotten front facing logos. We as humans have never ever known the father through any medium at all but the son.
In fact even the burning bush was the son.

>>22844376
>In fact even the burning bush was the son.
No. Jesus the Christ is not a fucking burning bush. You have let jewish nonsense fuck your senses.

>>22844373
>t is impossible for any human to walk that path alone and fully, but through the body of Christ we can by his grace infinitely walk this path and in walking this path itself we become like Christ and like the icon of God we were meant to be.
Through His Spirit. The Holy Spirit is what gives the believer the ability to live by the New Testament.
> not that we are sufficient of ourselves to think any thing as of ourselves; but our sufficiency is of God; who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.
2nd Corinthians 3

>>22844375
worth a shot, dont you think?
it was when I was desperate and at my lowest that I finally prayed to Jesus Christ and finally was saved and baptized in the Holy Spirit and had a direct personal relationship with him.
you would be surprised what a prayer can do in your life.

>>22844218
> i don't owe the king of the jews for existing

Like it or not, you do. You now have 2 choices. Heaven or Hell. Just remember it’s your choice so if you find yourself there just remember this is what you chose. You wanted life without God, that’s what life without God is.

>>22844353
You are a literal Arianist sectarian satanist. In your metaphysical paradigm salvation is literally impossible because there is no way to participate in a literal communion with God.
In your paradigm humans are slaves locked in a pen who will be rewarded with a childish, ultimately material, reward for good boy points.
Salvation is achieved by literal theosis through faith, which is possible exclusively and only because Christ in his hypostasis creates a bridge between human nature and UNCREATED divine essence.

>>22844377
I don't mean that the son was literally the burning bush, I mean that the voice speaking to Moses stating that I am was the son

>>22844381
Amen. And these people have the audacity to call themselves Christians.

>>22844379
Sounds good :] while I had my problems with Pope Francis I did get Baptized while he was Pope so i'll always have that.

>>22844324
>John 1
>1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

I want you to look at this link of over 70 Bible translations.

>http://simplebibletruths.net/70-John-1-1-Truths.htm

Besides the New World Translation, all these non-JW Bibles translate John 1:1 as "a god," "the word was divine," "the word was godlike."

Why all the "blasphemy"? Because the original Koine Greek language was like that.

This is the Koine Greek original
>kαὶ θεὸς ἦν ὁ λόγος

This is the hyper-literal translation
>kai the·os en ho logos

This is the translation
>kai(AND) the·os(GOD) en(WAS) ho(THE) logos(WORD).

What you need to understand is two things. First, Koine Greek had no lowercase words. It was all capital as seen above. Second, Koine Greek has only the definite article(the) but no indefinite articles(a/an).

So how does one tell the difference between God and god? Because God in the Greek Scriptures is always ho'theos(THE GOD) and any generic god is always theos. In John 1:1 Jehovah is translated as ho'theos(THE GOD) while Jesus is just theos(GOD.) The Koine Greek language is read without indefinite articles (a/an). So the correct translation is "a god." The oldest Bible manuscript in the pic up above is the Sahdic/Bohairic Coptic which was the language of the Egyptians 1,700 years ago. There language does have an indefinite article(a/an). They understood John 1:1 as "a god."

>>22844382
In fact that was Jethro his father in law that taught him everything, but Moses being a jew snake rebelled against him and against God.

>>22844164 (OP)
THAT'S THE PROBLEM A LOT OF "DEMONINATIONS" ARE HERETICAL, THEY DON'T BELIEVE IN JESUS, THEY SAY HE WAS JUST GOOD TEACHER, OR HE WAS A HOLOGRAM, OR THERE ARE MANY "JESUSES" TAKE YOUR PICK, GNOSTICS SAY JESUS DIDN'T DIE ON THE CROSS HE TRICKED EVERYONE. IF YOUR DEMONINATION SAYS ANYTHING LESS THAN JESUS IS GOD THEN IT IS LEADING YOU TO HELL

>>22844324
>>22844385
The Sahidic Coptic and Bohairic Coptic are the oldest manuscripts going back 1,700 years to Egypt. They translated in their own language "a god" because their languages had INDEFINITE articles.(a/an). Koine Greek doesn't have indefinite articles(a/an) only the definite article(the). When both subject and predicates have an article(the) they are treated as interchangeable and the same thing. A good example is Matt 13:38 “The field [Greek, ho a·gros] is the world [Greek, ho kosmos].” The field can be the world and the world can be the field. When both subject and predicate have articles they are considered the same and interchangeable. However, when only the subject/predicate have ONE article they are considered qualitative and not the same. uses 1John 1:5, which says: “God is light.” In Greek, “God” is ho the·os and therefore has a definite article. But phos for “light” is not preceded by any article. God is light but light cannot be God. They are not interchangeable. Light here is now qualitative.

John 1:1 has God as ho'theos and Jesus as just theos. Not interchangeable. So Jesus is only godlike, divine. That's why all those Bibles up above say "godlike, divine, deity." Not God.

>>22844373
>Similarly upon eschaton those who have walked far along with Christ through faith will manifest deified bodies like that of Christ once reality will be both material and spiritual at the same time
Fuck off with your works based garbage georgian nigger.

>>22844386
Moses was a Nordic Aryan. Nice try serpent. Also Moses was a Levite.

>>22844378
It is a synergistic effect with a vector towards the father, humans are united and bound through the omnipresent holy spirit, and through the spirit we can walk the path and the way who is Christ himself, and all of it towards the father because father can be known only through Christ.
This is a simplification of course not that we can in our fallen state even fully perceive the entire spectrum through which God works in us, but the main thing to remember is that through the holy spirit we are allowed to truly walk the path of Christ genuinely, and faith is what allows us to stay on this path.

>>22844384
be sure that you are not only baptized by water but by the Holy Spirit in repentance.

>>22844390
>Moses was a Nordic Aryan.
>Moses was a Levite.

>>22844359
You too will understand soon enough, hopefully before its too late.

>>22844381
>Christ in his hypostasis

Like I said, a pagan doctrine

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypostasis_(philosophy_and_religion)#

In order for you to describe the Trinity you have to resort to pagan influence. What does the Bible say about this?

>(2 Corinthians 6:14-17) Do not become unevenly yoked with unbelievers. For what fellowship do righteousness and lawlessness have? Or what sharing does light have with darkness? 15 Further, what harmony is there between Christ and Beli·al? Or what portion does a faithful person have with an unbeliever? 16 And what agreement does God’s temple have with idols? For we are a temple of a living God; just as God said: “I shall reside among them and walk among [them], and I shall be their God, and they will be my people.” 17 “‘Therefore get out from among them, and separate yourselves,’ says Jehovah, ‘and quit touching the unclean thing’”; “‘and I will take YOU in.’”

>(1 Corinthians 10:21) YOU cannot be drinking the cup of Jehovah and the cup of demons; YOU cannot be partaking of “the table of Jehovah” and the table of demons.

>(Colossians 2:8) Look out: perhaps there may be someone who will carry YOU off as his prey through the philosophy and empty deception according to the tradition of men, according to the elementary things of the world and not according to Christ;

>(1 Timothy 6:20) O Timothy, guard what is laid up in trust with you, turning away from the empty speeches that violate what is holy and from the contradictions of the falsely called “knowledge."

>>22844389
Faith alone is what matters, distinction between works and faith is fake and exists entirely in western discourse.
There are no works, no magical bribe or anything you can give to God.
But the realization of how far we have fallen, realization of how low we truly are and how far away is what God genuinely wants us to be which is like Christ Jesus, it should make you want to do every single thing possible to be like him.
The change of becoming Christ like, theosis, is not a work, it is internal change. But if you do nothing that Christ would and if you bear no good fruits then your faith is dead and you are lukewarm instead of burning like a candle.
Faith works distinction is fake.

>>22844385
I take Jesus word over yours.

John14
5 Thomas said to him, “Lord, we do not know where you are going. How can we know the way?” 6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. 7 If you had known me, you would have known my Father also.[d] From now on you do know him and have seen him.”
8 Philip said to him, “Lord, show us the Father, and it is enough for us.” 9 Jesus said to him, “Have I been with you so long, and you still do not know me, Philip? Whoever has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? 10 Do you not believe that I am in the Father and the Father is in me? The words that I say to you I do not speak on my own authority, but the Father who dwells in me does his works.

>>22844253
>calling white women dogs to their faces
the woman in the parable of the was a Canaanite/Palestinian arab woman not a white woman, I dunno where you got that from.

>>22844395
>>(1 Timothy 6:20) O Timothy, guard what is laid up in trust with you, turning away from the empty speeches that violate what is holy and from the contradictions of the falsely called “knowledge."
Now show us 1st Timothy 3:16 without employing pilpul

>>22844398
*in the parable of the dog

>>22844392
I try fren, though I may sin I ask for repentance every BNNUYday :3 even started during lent to pray at night it feels like it's helping alot

>>22844399
>1Ti 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh,

1 Tim. 3:16 with “God” as above, nearly all other translations today use a word which refers, not to God, but to Jesus: “he” (NIV; RSV; NRSV; JB; NJB; REB; NAB [‘70]; AT; GNB; CBW; and Beck’s translation), “he who” (ASV; NASB; NEB; MLB; BBE; Phillips; and Moffatt), “who,” or “which.” Even the equally old Douay version has “which was manifested in the flesh.” All the very best modern NT texts by trinitarian scholars (including Westcott and Hort, Nestle, and the text by the United Bible Societies) have the NT Greek word ὃς (“who”) here instead of θεὸς (“God”).

What you need to be aware of is that the KJV was based on a mistranslation of a slip of the pen. You see, God is θεὸς and who is ὃς. What happened was that the word ὃς was written in the most ancient manuscripts as OC (“C” being a common form for the ancient Greek letter “S” at that time). Most often at this time the word for God (θεὸς) was written in abbreviated form as ΘC. However, to show that it was an abbreviated form a straight line, or bar, was always drawn above ΘC. So no copyist should have mistaken ὃς (or OC) for ΘC, in spite of their similarities, simply because of the prominent bar which appeared over the one and not over the other. As a result of this error the KJV translators mistranslated "who" for "God."

That's why all those other Bibles up above replace "God" with "who" or "he who". The correct translation should be "he(Jesus) was manifest in the flesh" or "Who(Jesus) was manifest."

>>22844164 (OP)
braindead kike worshiper general?

>>22844164 (OP)
>who died for our sins
No, he died because you filthy kikes spread lies about Jesus to the romans.
So shove that sin up your ass, damn circumcised mutt

>>22844289
So a bunch of rabbis can collect 10% on taxes

>>22844372
Original sin is white guilt. Die jew lover die

>>22844401
repentance is a one time decision. a change of mind. Its saying, God your will, not my will. its surrendering your life to Gods will.
you dont repent over and over again.
its a one time decision to reject the flesh. baptism in the Holy Spirit is a distinct experience, a complete 180° on how you think and how you behave, a changed heart.
also make sure to not fall for pagan practices thought in the catholic church. they could lead you on a wrong path of practices like praying to Mary or saints.
Jesus Christ is the way and the door and the intercessor.

>>22844333
It's not free you become Yahwehs goy slave

>>22844164 (OP)
To help people understand that It's not about race, or backgrounds.
Galatians 2:20
20 I have been crucified with Christ; it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me.
1 Corinthians 12:12-27

>>22844396
>There are no works, no magical bribe or anything you can give to God
>By him therefore let us offer the sacrifice of praise to God continually, that is, the fruit of our lips giving thanks to his name.
>But to do good and to communicate forget not: for with such sacrifices God is well pleased.
>I will offer to thee the sacrifice of thanksgiving, and will call upon the name of the LORD.
Maybe read the bible instead of typing embarrassing walls of texts which i will no longer read.

>>22844395
You are a manipulative snake, there is of course not much else to expect from an Arianist in deep delusion.
First to have the audacity to bring in Paul who was exactly against the likes of your into the discussion is bizarre, but of course you can not address anything because you have no metaphysics since you are even less sophisticated than Arianists.
Just to account for your delusions, first of all God lied to us when we were told that gates of hell will not prevail against the church because in your Subordinationist opinion literally the entire Church including all of the Church father's and living saints in direct communion and succession from Christ's apostles were wrong, since you do not even admit Nicene Creed, therefore church literally failed for a thousand plus years in your paradigm.
I also don't know if you can read Greek or if you have some cope regarding Septuagint being mistranslated but it is impossible to interpret ὁ λόγος ἦν ὁ θεός/the Word was God and any pillpul about use of Theos in this context can not be rational.
What is there even to talk about? In your religion you are rewarded for faith and works through good boy points determined by governing body, you are literally Islam without Mohammad.

>>22844402
>What you need to be aware of is that the KJV was based on a mistranslation of a slip of the pen.
So the Geneva Bible, Luther's translation, the Synodal translation, the Bishop's Bible all mistranslated that verse and led millions to believe that Christ is God?

>>22844333
>Jesus took every sin upon himself for you.
>you are not born free, you are born under satan. Jesus blood bought your freedom from him.
what happened to the billions of people who existed before your kike on a cross died, were the also born under le satan?
You christniggers are actually retarded.

>>22844408
I have more freedom now than I ever had under satan.

>>22844164 (OP)
Save my soul Lord. Keep me in the grace of your light. My sins are many but I will think of you and try harder to be better. Amen.

>>22844413
everyone is a rebel and a sinner.
faith in God saves even before Jesus came as man.
even the bible records people not from Israel believing in God.

>>22844402
When will you mention how your conman Russell literally in the same vein as other conmen tried to claim bogus prophecies and predictions which all failed?

>>22844333
>>22844380
>Suggestion (Wizard Spell)

>When this spell is cast by the wizard, he influences the actions of the chosen recipient by the utterance of a few words—phrases or a sentence or two—suggesting a course of action desirable to the spellcaster. The creature to be influenced must, of course, be able to understand the wizard's suggestion—it must be spoken in a language that the spell recipient understands.

>The suggestion must be worded in such a manner as to make the action sound reasonable; asking the creature to stab itself, throw itself onto a spear, immolate itself, or do some other obviously harmful act automatically negates the effect of the spell. However, a suggestion that a pool of acid was actually pure water and that a quick dip would be refreshing is another matter. Urging a red dragon to stop attacking the wizard's party so that the dragon and party could jointly loot a rich treasure elsewhere is likewise a reasonable use of the spell's power.

>The course of action of a suggestion can continue in effect for a considerable duration, such as in the case of the red dragon mentioned above. Conditions that will trigger a special action can also be specified; if the condition is not met before the spell expires, the action will not be performed. If the target successfully rolls its saving throw, the spell has no effect. Note that a very reasonable suggestion causes the saving throw to be made with a penalty (such as -1, -2, etc.) at the discretion of the DM. Undead are not subject to suggestion.

>The material components of this spell are a snake's tongue and either a bit of honeycomb or a drop of sweet oil.

i resist your jewish spellcasting. maybe you really believe it and are acting as a proxy, but hopefully you can break free too

>>22844282
>Why do I only ever see jehovas witnesses evangelizing?
because they are Bible literalists and follow the plain text of the Bible and take what Jesus commanded his disciples to do in his day as being direct literal commandments to all Christians at all points in time. The only text they have is the Bible, they have nothing additional outside of this that adds additional lore, beliefs or practices like every other denomination/sect of Christianity does (the Watchtower and Awake! articles and pamphlets are not taken as divine or spiritual texts like the jews have with the talmud or muslims do with the hadiths or other Christians do with canonical works of popes or whatever - it's just promotional material).

Not in the Bible? Then they don't believe it. Hell is never mentioned in the text so it isn't real. 'God's Kingdom' is described physically and Revelation says only 144,000 go to Heaven so they don't believe in going to Heaven and think God's Kingdom will physically exist on Earth. The book of Isaiah describes how God's people will be uber healthy gigachads that can run miles and not get sick and the land will be a paradise like Eden so they think this will literally happen after armageddon. The word used for the cross is open to interpretation so they dismiss it entirely since it's suspect. The J-man says you have to go out and be fishers of men preaching in the streets so the yknock on your door incessantly.

The best way to think of it is that Jehovah's Witnesses are the most autistic denomination of Christians, they are autist Christians. To explain Noah's flood that literally happened and make the water levels and geology make sense and the fact the Bible says that the 'floodgates of Heaven opened' they even believe Earth had Halo-like concentric ice rings like Saturn that God melted to release tonnes of water to flood the Earth.
>>22844381
>Christ in his hypostasis
not in the Bible so it isn't real

>>22844290
Absolutely this. Referencing non existent demons like Moses proves he isn't divinely omniscient

>>22844413
> For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit: by which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison; which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.
only 2 percent of the people that ever were lived before Christ.

>>22844164 (OP)
Sin is a Jewish construct. Jesus is a Jew. Christians are Jews by default. TKD. TCD. TAD.

glad to see /pol/ returning to Christ.
God bless you all

>>22844418
human history has proven that man can not govern himself.
we have nothing done but destroying the planet and humanity to this point.
your trust in man is in vain.

>>22844419
>Hell is never mentioned
>and shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

>>22844295
Correct.
Christ wasn't a giant Jewish scapegoat chicken.
He showed the way to defeating death, the rest is on you.

>>22844165
FPBP

/thread

>>22844212
>it shows that NOBODY reads the Greek.
Stop lying you LARPing faggot, you don't read Greek and you've never actually read any of the Bible other than out of context, misunderstood quotations posted by other midwit trannies on r/atheism.

>>22844223
Anyone capable of reading the Greeks would see Christianity in a rather positive light, because they'd know first hand that Plato's One and Christianity's God are just different names pointing to the same self-existent perfect mind.

>>22844295
>>22844426
Based Orthodox frens. Westerners are like small kids who want God to die for them. Even jews think that God chose them but not that he died for them.

>>22844419
Your opinion on this matter literally is irrelevant, the Bible is a bibliotheca, a library of books for the church. The gospel is a word within the church which is the body of Christ in fact the Bible was compiled by the priesthood that despised your Arianist nonsense it is literally irreconcilable for you.
The Church left by Christ is the most important metaphysical structure in existence.
>not in the Bible so it isn't real
Read john 8:58 and 10:30-33, the context of this passage especially if you read the septiguant makes sense only and exclusively if we understand that Christ claimed that he is the I AM, otherwise literally the entire narrative does not make sense since him claiming to be God is what triggers pharisees reaction to perceived blasphemy.

>>22844284
>>22844286
>>22844353
The truth about The Truth is that you’re a false religion that the Bible warned us about. How many times has your Governing Body released specific years that world was going to end? You’ve been saying Armageddon is just around the corner for over a century. Your entire doctrine is based on a lie regarding 607/1914. Why can’t you just admit you are wrong? You also cover up child abuse and kill children with your retarded blood doctrine.

https://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/607-7-times.php

>>22844223
this guy is retarded.
The same word he claims means "little boy" occurs when Jesus meets the rich man.
The rich man even tells him that his youth is over.
Also the young man Jesus was with wasn't naked, the text very clearly says he was wearing a full shroud.
I think this guy is genuinely demon possessed

>>22844430
> Westerners are like small kids who want God to die for them. Even jews think that God chose them but not that he died for them.

>>22844266
>The Trinity has to be the most nonsensical thing in the history of religion.
No, you are just a retarded sandnigger.
Husbands and fathers and sons are 3 different things, a husband is not a father is not a son.
But one man can be a husband and a father and a son. If an ordinary mortal man can easily be 3 different things at the same time, why do you think an all-powerful God who created the entire universe can't be a Father and Son and Holy Spirit?

>>22844435
So God is reduced to father son metaphors? this is silly.

>>22844164 (OP)
>God bless you /pol/.
>
>No matter your denomination, come and discuss our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ - who died for our sins.
God bless you, anon!
May the Lord Jesus Christ bless and keep all of our bro-anons in Christ!

>>22844367
>>22844345
That's a lot of schizobabble over minor religious theology

Eastern Orthodox:
>Jesus is in two natures
Oriental Orthodox monophysite
>Jesus is of two natures

>>22844165
>neaniskos is the Greek word used
neaniskos means a young man/servant

>>22844164 (OP)
Christ is King
TKD

>>22844366
>we pay for our sins each.
If you so choose, you shall.
More to the point, if you fail to choose otherwise.

>>22844436
God is outside of time, father is eternally begetting a son and spirating a spirit, these actions are eternal because they are outside of temporal space, they are one being because they are uncreated, it is Gods very nature to be uncreated.
If all of humanity was somehow uncreated and outside of time, we would be one entity in many hypostasis, we would be every human everywhere all at once outside of time and causality, but that is impossible.
God is one nature, he has three hypostasis, but they are one because God is uncreated and outside of time.
The three hypostasis are also associated with the method of creation, which your Jewish Ein Sof is a corrupted version of.
The father's logoi are manifested through logos the son in omnipresent spirit, this is how creation unrolls.

>>22844345
>instead of a fully human and fully divine nature that are connected at the person of Christ.
That's still the myaphisite position. They just hold that Christ is of rather than in two natures.
https://youtu.be/YffPLPfe4Jk?t=340

>>22844442
>father is eternally begetting a son and spirating a spirit
This makes God a complex rather than a simple essence. Even if you claim that they share one essence still it doesn't make sense, since this assumes an action within God which is impossible since God doesn't change and is already perfect.

>>22844416
kill yourself you mentally ill retard
>>22844421
LMAO
you are a delusional fucking subhuman

>>22844406
The 'original sin' was Satan's betrayal to God.
Ezekiel 28:11-19
11 The word of the Lord came to me: 12 “Son of man, take up a lament concerning the king of Tyre and say to him: ‘This is what the Sovereign Lord says:

“‘You were the seal of perfection,
full of wisdom and perfect in beauty.
13 You were in Eden,
the garden of God;
every precious stone adorned you:
carnelian, chrysolite and emerald,
topaz, onyx and jasper,
lapis lazuli, turquoise and beryl.[a]
Your settings and mountings[b] were made of gold;
on the day you were created they were prepared.
14 You were anointed as a guardian cherub,
for so I ordained you.
You were on the holy mount of God;
you walked among the fiery stones.
15 You were blameless in your ways
from the day you were created
till wickedness was found in you.
16 Through your widespread trade
you were filled with violence,
and you sinned.
So I drove you in disgrace from the mount of God,
and I expelled you, guardian cherub,
from among the fiery stones.
17 Your heart became proud
on account of your beauty,
and you corrupted your wisdom
because of your splendor.
So I threw you to the earth;
I made a spectacle of you before kings.
18 By your many sins and dishonest trade
you have desecrated your sanctuaries.
So I made a fire come out from you,
and it consumed you,
and I reduced you to ashes on the ground
in the sight of all who were watching.
19 All the nations who knew you
are appalled at you;
you have come to a horrible end
and will be no more.’”

>>22844438
It isn't shizobabble, orientals are trying to obscure what they mean because over the centuries they became ashamed of their retarded theology and are trying eucumenism but also are too arrogant to admit they were wrong.
You are missing an important part that ultimately they believe in one incarnate nature, that means that they believe that in incarnation Jesus had a single bizarre new nature and that nature was full divine full human, but if it is one incarnate nature they are basically inventing a new essence of a demigod who is fully divine fully human.
Jesus Christ was a full human full stop and a full divine full stop with zero confusion. The person, the hypostasis itself is the linchpin connecting the natures. The same person who was fully human Christ is the same person who is the son.
This is why personhood matters, because it is our will that determines if we are with Christ or not, we don't lack magical demigod essence.

>>22844443
It is doctrinal for moaphysites that Christ has one incarnate nature, this is a stance they refuse to deny. Human and divine essences are fully distinct and fully non-confused, it isn't through incarnate nature that they are united but through the person of Christ.

>>22844445
>nooo, let me be my own God
its always funny to me that people like you flock into christian threads when you could just hide or ignore them.
it offends you being confronted with God.

>>22844280
The greek is the cheese and the jude is the poison . JUDAISM is a bunch of Phoenician Gypsy hybrids larping as a real nation so that they could be taken seriously. There are no references to the Torah before 300 bc

>>22844444
Why? You have stated literally nothing. Father eternally and infinitely begetting a son is part of his uncreated nature.
Truly and completely absolute divine simplicity creates a God that has a full separation from creation to a point of atheism basically because if your profess full divine simplicity either God is entirely isolated from creation and unable to act or reality is animistic/pantheistic and creation is part of God.
Eternal begetting and eternal spiration are the mediums through which creation is possible.

>>22844451
>Eternal begetting and eternal spiration are the mediums through which creation is possible.
As a hierarchy not as equals. The Son is beneath the father again similar to neoplatonic hierarchy.

>>508025011
Jesus uses the name Gehenna when he says this, referring to the literal actual place the valley of Gehnna/Hinomm which was a physcial location in Jerusaleum where dead bodies were burned. Since at the time Jesus was using it as a figure of speech to describe how non-believers will be cast out and destroyed (like throwing waste/corpses out of the city) and the concept of Hell inspired by Hades was a later addition syncretized into Christianity, JWs therefore don't accept Hell as a thing and dismiss it entirely. They also base this on the fact that it's never mention in the old testament and in fact in the old testament an alternative death state/word is described - Sheol - which describes being asleep in darkness forever. The word Tartarus similarly gets used in one of the epistles so in order for it not to be a contradiction JWs figure that it's just where when you die you're just dead and Hell isn't real and Jesus was just referring to the firey pit in a figure of speech manner.
>>508025429
>the Bible is a bibliotheca, a library of books for the church
>The gospel is a word within the church
the books were each written individually over time long before the early Christian church existed so they are not the church, they are God's divinely inspired word written by various prophets throughout time. The written word of God >>>>>>>>>>>>> the institution of the church in the worldview of the JW. The institution is of no importance hence why they have minimal hierarchical arrangements and very threadbare congregation buildings. The church is considered to be the people themselves and the buildings and institution don't matter, only the word matters.

Also btw JWs think the early Christian church got co-opted by Satan and what the church turned into (Catholicism, Protestants etc) are actually the false prophets that Jesus warned of being personified by the Whore of Babylon in Revelation. JWs literally believe that (You)r church is the Antichrist.

Christ is Lord! Amen!

>>22844398
from the jewish bible, genius
yes, they changed her to a canaanite when they realized it wasnt a good look to call white women dogs when youre writing in their language and trying to recruit these people to your side
its like you dont know that they were making it up and editorializing it as they went or something

>>22844416
literally nobody had even heard of these people before a century or two before jesus, even though they knew of, or had often been to the area they were now calling "israel". and the ones who had, called them a nation of deceivers who you should never trust. shouldve listened to them and not the jews.

>>22844510
>hes wearing a jew hat
pottery

>>22844439
gotta stop using jewish apologist sources
it means young boy, specifically one who is still growing
when do boys stop growing? about 17, so theres your ceiling. the floor is when pubrrty begins 11-12, thats why the diminutive form σκος is used.
the word you are looking for which means young man is νεανίας. today, you would call that boy a boy, not a man. and jesus would be a kidnapper who has no business being with naked 12 year olds. this really shouldnt be a huge deal, consider like 8 of the apostles were around that age. impressionable, uneducated *youths*. and jewish too, so a good chance theyre fags, or atleast bi-curious.
how many of the apostles had families? wives? children? continued bloodlines?

>>22844447
so they spent centuries arguing over shit greeks had already fully conceptualized and long moved past
where have i seen that before..
jews and jew worshippers are like the short bus of humans' theology.