Thread 22846802

which ones worse in your opnion? and you cant say both.

>>22846802 (OP)
cigarettes are known to be bad
i think vaping still isn't researched well enough, but i don't like heated plastic and random chinese compounds in the liquid
probably both retarded
just smoke cigarettes without inhaling

>>22846805
>just smoke cigarettes without inhaling
>calls something retarded, then says that
no. you have to choose based on your own knowledge and experience and general concensus.
personally i think vaping is "healthier" than cigarettes without a doubt.

>>22846802 (OP)
Cigarettes are not bad for you. They simply cull the weak.
Vapes on the other hand inject chemicals that lower your T and makes you infertile directly into your bloodstream.

Vaping, because all of that shit comes from China and has zero real regulation.
People are breathing in god knows what carcinogens and heavy metals.
Not to mention the amount of waste that comes from vapes.
Instead of buying what's basically a piece of paper and some plant matter, people are buying a shitton of battery devices and chugging them in the bin.
Not that I really give a fuck about the alarmist environmentalist bullshit, but you can't ignore the retarded wastefulness of that hobby.

>>22846832
>>22846827
Are you serious? imagine the day when people would be shilling cigs before vapes because "they're from china"????
what the fuck are you saying? do you even know whats in a cigarette and can you not compare that inside a vape which you can look up?

>>22846849
>tf
>tp

>>22846823
>no. you have to choose based on your own knowledge and experience and general concensus.
i need more experience...
>personally i think vaping is "healthier" than cigarettes without a doubt.
could be
>>22846832
virtue signalling lol
>>22846849
>do you even know whats in a cigarette and can you not compare that inside a vape which you can look up?
i don't think you can know or look up what's in a vape or a cigarette, not as a consumer atleast

see how shit gets boring when it's not twitter rhetoric nonsense?

i hate myself alot im hiding this thread

I really want to quit smoking but its just so comfy or whatever. There's nothing quite like a coffee and cigarette first thing in the morning. I cant even get nictoine vape here anymore otherwise i would at leadt try it.
It's apparently like inhaling aerosol?

I was a smoker for about 6 years and I've been vaping for around 15 years. I started vaping when you had to order vapes off of fasttech and juice off of shady dudes in parking lots. Quitting smoking was the best thing I ever did and I've had no I'll effects from vaping all these years. I guess we'll see in another 15. I will say I don't cough or feel like shit like I used to smoking cigs.

Also, hats off to the cancer associations and big tobacco for convincing people cigarettes are somehow safer, lmao.

>>22847832
the problem is they could be right, not to say cigarette smoking is safe. Its absolutely not. Vaping needs to be around for another 50 so years so the long term affects can be noted.

>>22847839
"Could be right" is true, but it also conveniently disregards the probability of them being right, which is extremely low and also an extremely harmful approach since people will continue to smoke cigarettes based on a low probability "what-ifism"

How many cigarette-related deaths are we willing to put up with before admitting that it seems vaping is a no-brainer alternative?

>>22847839
>the problem is
Calling on you to respond or submit. Stop killing people.

>>22846802 (OP)
Both

i think its vapes because we've heard a lot that they are "healthier" and so younger and younger people start vaping and giving themselves nicotine addiction. I had never seen such a thing with cigarettes (not many at least), probably because the smell alone would give them away

I WANT A FUCKING CIGARETTE RIGHT FUCKING NOW AAAAAAHHH WHY SHOULD I QUIT ANYWAY WHEN IDGAF HOW LONG I LIVE FUCK OFF GIVE ME A SMOKE NIGGERLOVERS

>>22850493
Snag up a vape. Maybe a vuse or something to start.

famotidine

Well I tried some fucking vape and it was ok. Nice brief light-headed feeling after a puff but now 5 minutes later i feel like im going to throw up.
But i dont feel like a cigarette anymore at least.

>>22847832
Here in Aus its all about protecting the kids but i have a suspicion that it has more to do with protecting the tobacco companies.

Ohh fug i dont feel well at all