Thread 22854260

I now eat a plant based diet after years of keto/carnivore, the high meat & fat lead me to developing brain fog, dizziness and fatigue.

A plant based no fat diet thins your blood and removes the build up of deposits in your vessels!

>>22854260 (OP)
Yea but being vegan makes you gay so nah.

>>22854260 (OP)
When did you get your sex change?

Wrong, sugar and sneed oils do.

>>22854260 (OP)
youre a malnourished woman

>>22854261
Dairy causes low sperm counts, Onions does not.

>>22854260 (OP)
led, not lead

>>22854263
Seed oils along with animals fats and animal protein. And yes too much highly processed sugar especially when combined with fats can cause this.

>>22854260 (OP)
Just watch any drain cleaning vid, I recommend Drain Cleaning AUSTRALIA. That's not carbs he's blasting out of those clogged pipes.

>>22854260 (OP)
Yeah I'm sure that "meat eater" is eating actual meat and totally not frozen Tyson Foods processed chicken finger slop full of seed oils.

>>22854260 (OP)
> I now eat a plant based diet
What a faggot

>>22854260 (OP)
Most likely big food shilling here, nobody can be that retarded.

>>22854265
Onions lead to smaller balls.

Wow a cartoon picture. Truly convincing

>>22854261
/thread

>>22854265
You're not having a high sperm count with low zinc

>>22854260 (OP)
Props.
If you're trying to get "her" this helps a lot. She's a voracious meat eater but her heart is telling her not to do that. No one's brave enough to direct her.

>>22854260 (OP)
Just eat a balanced diet, don't overeat, stay active, and don't eat at night. Fat stays burning.

>>22854267
Wrong.
The only bad fats are PUFAs. They are easy to oxidise and oxidized fats are what's unhealthy.
>animal protein is bad
neck yourself kike

>>22854260 (OP)
I have determined from research and experimentation that consuming less meat is indeed healthier
Nikola Tesla avoided meat due to the acidifying effect it had on the body
Pythagoras abstained from meat for philosophical reasons.
Adolf Hitler himself wasn't much of a meat eater!
one thing is for certain: the carnivore diet is by far the funniest meme diet, especially after learning that B12 deficiency is even more common for them than vegans

>>22854260 (OP)
I knew this. I've been trying to cut down on meat but I still eat fish.

>>22854269
Unprocessed meat still can cause this

>>22854265
All that sperm just to shoot it into a guys anus? Not worth it.

>>22854277
Why even bother there won’t be a USA once trump’s term is over

>>22854260 (OP)
>cartoon drawing
OMFG SCIENCE

>>22854260 (OP)
Humans are supposed to die when they get old. Boomers being still alive is a mistake.

>>22854260 (OP)
>I now eat a plant based diet after years of keto/carnivore, the high meat & fat lead me to developing brain fog, dizziness and fatigue.
I was the opposite. Low carb helped me a lot
>A plant based no fat diet thins your blood and removes the build up of deposits in your vessels!
Not quite. Purpose of the gunk in your arteries is to repair blood vessels. So low fat + high cardio = removal of build up.
So in a sense you are right but not just cause you cut out meat, and if you are eating high fat vegan stuff like avacado and nuts it won't make a difference

>>22854260 (OP)
Enjoy your stomach, prostate cancer, and leukemia. Eating veg and fruits causes cancer. Yes, even organic and home grown.

AIDS is from fags.

>>22854260 (OP)
Plant based diets do the opposite of thin your blood. There's just no way to tell bait from proper retardation around here anymore, it's all mixed together.

>>22854260 (OP)
>how do you cope with that
By eating more meat and drinking more milk.

>>22854260 (OP)

That's old debunked stuff m8. I mean that in a good way.

Seed Oils are the primary cause of this. What do unhealthy people eat? Lots of fried food. Food fried in seed oils. Enriched grains which cause inflammation. Sugar which causes inflammation/diabetes etc.

The average persons diet is a constant inflammation trigger and it's why people get tired/feel sick after eating fried food/American bread etc. Your body is having a poison reaction, inflamming and this spikes blood pressure, damages veins/arteries and drains your bodies healing elements like Glutathiome.

Stop eating all seed oils, enriched grains and sugary things. Fruit sugars are much safer and the average apple or banana has 1/20th the sugar of a processed snack.

>>22854260 (OP)
>cope
you dont cope with it, you counteract it with exercise instead of sitting on your ass until your heart explodes

>>22854260 (OP)
Plant diet is for girls and faggots

>>22854260 (OP)
I workout, go running and swimming every second day. Im sure im fine.

Also I'm white and I haven't seen a single nigger in weeks.

>>22854260 (OP)
I want to die anyway.

>>22854279
Great comment, all of the great spiritual sages of the past eat miminial or no meat

>>22854260 (OP)
have a cheeseburger ffs who said they wanted you to live a long time?

https://rumble.com/v6un6j9-kali-burger-advertisement.html?e9s=src_v1_ucp_v

I rather have limited size arteries full of testosterone than normal arteries full of söy and estrogen.

>>22854279
also it's good to eat eggs and drink kefir to get the essential amino acids that are harder to get from a plant-based diet
for the record I still eat meat a couple times a week, but it's not a staple in my diet anymore

>>22854260 (OP)
be careful, anon. you can only do vegan for so long - many vegans start developing issues after ~5 years. listen to your body.

>>22854260 (OP)
Lack of creatine made you dumber. And I´m not teling you off, but more like for you to check it out and learn how to avoid that as a vegan.

>>22854283
People have always survived the collapses of empires. Staying fit helps. The government WANTS you to give up, stay fat, or stay weak. Resist.

>>22854260 (OP)
Sure go extinct for the whole foods

>>22854287
>Eating veg and fruits causes cancer. Yes, even organic and home grown.
No, vegans have the lowest rates of cancer and all cause mortality out of all groups.

>>22854260 (OP)
The italians know best when it comes to food and one of their most famous once said it's better to live one day as a lion than 100 years as a sheep

>>22854265
Mariam Nabatanzi, look her up, had 44 children by the time she was 40. She and her family live on ugali which is boiled corn meal. I suspect most of it is from USAid.

>>22854260 (OP)
Ok thanks for the info glowie

>>22854279
I had bloodwork done back when I was eating red meat everyday and I was low in b12 & folate

>>22854260 (OP)
They all look like number 3, but it's not plaque buildup, it's microplastics.

>>22854305
Better to live as a rhino than a lion. Lions are bitches compared to rhino's and elephants

>>22854260 (OP)
Here's an esoteric redpill: your body is weaker if you believe it to be weaker.

Physical health, to a large extent, is downstream from the mind. If you put a lot of stock into this hypochondriac bullshit, OP, then you make yourself more vulnerable to it.

You can protect yourself from ailments by having faith in your own strength and resilience.

>>22854281
Not really, no.

>>22854304
That's because they die of malnutrition before they can develop cancer

>>22854264
OP WNBARW

OP is a fag who can't into cost-benefit analysis. Go ahead and list the downsides of your plant based diet if you're so smart.

>>22854260 (OP)
disinfo , my exwife was a vegan and i had to force her verbally to eat some more fucking meat , she suddenly looked and felt better and quit being a skeleton.
i will keep drinking milk , keep eating meat and keep doing the opposite of what bart simpsons tell me.

>>22854260 (OP)
lies

>>22854260 (OP)
vegans never die, fact
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zssA5v7hxE&list=PL4TF_jVJJY6CoroPvAcG75KeZVfqYo8Xc&index=3

who wants to live longer?

>>22854279
Delete this now. We oligarchs are funding the high fat carnivore diet so more people will have heart attack and cardiovascular disease to depopulate. Don’t make us make fun of you.

>>22854260 (OP)
That's why being niggerlilled is healthy. Watermelon and chicken all day every day. Eating chicken won't harm you.

>>22854260 (OP)
they just invent new diseases

>>22854310
idk having a harem of bitches who bring you all the food you want and will literally bite your dick if you don't fuck them enough sounds pretty great to me. how does being a rhino beat that?

>>22854302
what’s the point? So you reproduce and have children/ globohomo wants your kids gay, hyper sexualized and on drugs. So you fulfill your biological purpose only for Jews to then screw up
Your offspring’s world mentality to the point it becomes hostile to their own existence . If death is a threshold then nothing we do here matters

>>22854260 (OP)
veganism leads to vitamin deficiencies, you're damned if you do, damned if you don't

>>22854260 (OP)
That's why I inject myself some dishwasher every second tuesday. Don't overdoit though.

>>22854260 (OP)
Anything but the clot shot, goys

>>22854260 (OP)
>picture
completely false. not how it works

Yes Goys! Just eat the things that people only ate as a last resort for eons. The delicious fatty steak is actually bad for you. What you really want is an inedible, tough to digest high fiber'low flavor veggie high if oxalates with zero fat to provide satiation.

>>22854325
You can manage all of it. Just educate yourself. The average person would benefit from taking vit d, omega 3 and b12.

>>22854313
Vegans have the longest lifespans of all diet groups.

>>22854260 (OP)
Nice try anglokike. This Doctor eats nothing but meat for 5 years and here are his CAC scores

>>22854329
Steak doesn't have a strong flavor

>>22854260 (OP)
Assuming this was true (it's not).
Vegetarian is the best choice, you get to enjoy yummy cheese and eggs with barely any damage to your arteries.

>>22854332
More carnigore retardation.

>>22854260 (OP)
>The fiction
You eat animal fat your body turns it into bad cholesterol and it clogs your arteries
>The reality
You eat a lot of sugar and your body converts it into bad cholesterol which clogs your arteries.

LDL, "Bad Cholesterol" as it's called, is how the body transports fat around the body.
When you take in a fuck load of simple carbohydrates you have an excess, which is stored as fat.
So your body is going to produce excessive LDL in the process of making you a fat ass because you're taking in way more than you're burning.

It's not "I'm eating animal fat and thats just automatically transported around my body as LDL and clogging my heart!", because dietary fat is going to be first up on the list of being burned calorically after sugar.

Basically veganiggers don't define what LDL is, make it like it's this shit you only get from animal meat and that it will kill you. They don't even talk about how the body can produce LDL without ever taking in a single bit of animal product.

>>22854260 (OP)
Everybody dies.

>>22854260 (OP)
Was this controlled for obesity?

>>22854330
Oddly enough a Monster energy drink has massive amounts of both b12 and niacin. It's almost like it was made that way on purpose.

>>22854335
>numerous studies
>doesnt list any

I can smell you from here, lardass.

>>22854336
dietary cholesterol has no impact on blood level cholesterol for most of the population

>>22854324
So you want me to just... give up? Oh wait... nice try glownigger

>>22854260 (OP)

These two rules are all you ever need to know about diet; all else is self-absorbed dick-waving.

1. Eat enough but not too much.
2. Mix it

As explained by Dr Magnus Pyke OBE FRSE FRIC @04:45

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OL1kT3-BPuo&t=630s

>>22854277
This. Diet is fascinating because you can get into a bunch of gory details but ultimately the answer always loops back to this in the big picture. Eat a balanced diet containing all the usual food groups and avoid ultraprocessed food, empty calories, etc.

>>22854332
He eats so much meat that he never gets into ketosis so calling his eating style the carnivore diet is factually wrong. He's running off glucose.

>>22854280
>I knew this. I've been trying to cut down on meat but I still eat fish.
it's fat and meat. for example, you should never eat cheese.

>>22854338
Good luck becoming obese on a vegan diet lmao. Do you enjoy eating 10kg of vegetables per day to reach 2000 kcal?

>>22854263
It's just cholesterol.

>>22854277
Pritikin nailed it back in the 60's. Basically eat like a vegan but add 100g of lean meat per day.

>>22854335
I was Vegan for a few years late 1990's. Now carnivore. Feel better now at 55 than when I was in my 30's. Glad you have 4 stomachs like a cow and can digest seeds, grains etc. More meat for me.

>>22854347
>rice, potatoes, pasta, beans, fruit
If a vegan is only eating leaves they deserve to die.

>>22854336
Dr Robert Lustig has shown all this with his lectures. Its really the Sugar Jew. Saturated fat Jew gets blamed when he is really kindof like Stephen Miller

>>22854339
It's probably addictive not only because of the caffeine, but also because of giving you those vitamins you're deficient in.

>>22854325
multivitamins, son.

oats. oats m'goats
OATS

>>22854353
I've never even had 1 sip of a Monster. My buddy drinks at least one a day.

>>22854345
Fatty cope

>>22854351
Pasta isn't vegan.

>>22854347
I just drank 1 liter of palm oil. That's just me.

>>22854260 (OP)
All men die, not all truly live.

>>22854356
That's a little degenerate if sugarfree, incredibly degenerate if the sugar one.

>>22854357
He showed his blood work and he had zero ketones which means he is running off glucose or alcohol.

>>22854321
The fried batter will. Chicken is great for you when grilled or roasted though.

>>22854260 (OP)
Nice drawing you have there.
Meanwhile in reality that problem is non exercise .

Vegans are deficit in b12:

http://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamaneurology/fullarticle/784788
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16219987

High fiber diets reduce serum half life of vitamin D3:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6299329

Vegans have weaker bones due to lower calcium intake and vitamin D3 levels:

http://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/486478
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21092700

Vegans have a worse memory compared to non vegans due to creatine deficiency in vegans:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21118604
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14561278

Vegans have less gains compared to non vegans:

http://m.ajcn.nutrition.org/content/70/6/1032.full

Vegans are deficient in omega threes:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16087975
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16188209
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12323090
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12323085

Vegans are deficit in carnitine:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21753065
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2756917
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1628441/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11043928

Vegans are deficient in taurine:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3354491

Vegans are deficient in iodine:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12748410
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21613354

Vegans are deficient in Coenzyme Q10:

>>22854324
looser mentality

>>22854349
there is no need to eat lean meat. Simply consume non fat dairy and/or whey powder smoothies. Meat is such a hassle.

>>22854260 (OP)
>the high meat & fat lead me to developing brain fog, dizziness and fatigue.
No it didn't.

>>22854260 (OP)
>check out these illustrations that have no bearing on reality
is this the power of science?

>>22854347
>>22854351
It's nearly impossible to get obese if you eat real food. Unprocessed meat, grains, fruits, etc. are all very filling. What gets people fat is goyslop which is all calories and no nutrients.

>>22854364
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16873950

Vegans are deficient in iron due to the fact that iron from plant sources is less bioavailable than iron from meat sources:

https://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/Iron-HealthProfessional/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11269606

Vegans are deficient in vitamin A:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19103647
http://m.jn.nutrition.org/content/137/11/2346.full

Veganism causes broken bones:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21092700
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17299475.


egans have a lower sperm count than non vegans:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3257705/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/35465

>>22854370
Vegans have lower testosterone than non vegans:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1435181
http://m.ajcn.nutrition.org/content/42/1/127.abstract
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/159772
http://m.jap.physiology.org/content/82/1/49

Veganism causes loss of libido and erectile dysfunction:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21353476.

Children who are raised on strict vegan diets do not grow normally:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/4067152
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8005079

Children develop rickets after prolonged periods of strict vegetarian diets:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1874810/pdf/canmedaj01383-0052.pdf

"There are some links between vegetarians and lower birthweight and earlier labour"

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7788369

Effects of vitamin B12 and folate deficiency on brain development in children:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3137939/

>>22854260 (OP)
Do the orthodox diet and have days with meat and days without. You will be healthy. Don’t abuse it though and get fat on bread.

>>22854279
THIS SO MUCH THIS!!!
https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/926/230/4ba

>>22854371
Particular attention should be paid to adequate protein intake and sources of essential fatty acids, iron, zinc, calcium, and vitamins B12 and D. Supplementation may be required in cases of strict vegetarian diets with no intake of any animal products."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2912628/

These next five are case studies:

Cerebral atrophy in a vitamin B12-deficient infant of a vegetarian mother:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25076673

Severe megaloblastic anemia in child breast fed by a vegetarian mother:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8442642

Consequences of exclusive breast-feeding in vegan mother newborn - case report:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19748244

Nutritional vitamin B12 deficiency in a breast-fed infant of a vegan-diet mother:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3948463

>>22854260 (OP)
>>22854279
Meat is definitely overrated. Cutting back on red meat and processed meat is among the top 5 dietary changes you can make if you take the average Western diet as baseline. Red meat is inflammatory and too much saturated fat will throw your cholesterol numbers of out whack.

>>22854260 (OP)
>Excess fat gets stored in fat cells.
>Over excess fat builds up somewhere
It's called exercise sloth
That's how you prevent this with a high fat diet. Lot's of exercise.

>>22854281
probably if you only eat lard and fat off the meat
in copious amounts

Eating animal fats doesn't cause clogged arteries

>>22854261
I feel compelled to state that I went home with a woman I met on a train a couple nights ago and spent the night in her bed. What a time not to have a condom, but how was I supposed to know that was going to happen?

>>22854375
No. The number 1 dietary change that the average westerner should do is cut out ultraprocessed food.

>too much saturated fat will throw your cholesterol numbers
This is a myth and not supported by actual data.

>>22854364
>>22854370
>>22854371
>>22854374

This place is filled with bots and shills is pointless to argue or post evidence Carnivore diet is master race they want you to eat ze bugs and won't stop to save the weather many retards already fell ley the npcs dies like the jabs.

>>22854279
>these retards of the past didn't eat meat!
the average college graduate knows two or three times more than all of these people. in terms of creative problem solving, perhaps they excelled, but creative problem solvers have determined meat contains high concentrations of specific required nutrients.
>anecdote
I probably could not survive without meat or dairy. I'd have to actively be eating around 1/3rd my waking hours and design my meals to accommodate the lost vitamins an nutrients. As someone who is 6ft 3, gargantuan, I eat around twice as much as most people in history. Your research and experimentation is stupid.

>>22854366
My personal recommendation would be vegan for 6 days a week (lots of fruit and juice till dinner then load up that starch) then once a week make clams linguine. Baby clams are the highest source of b12 available.

>>22854369
The fat you eat is the fat you wear.

>>22854383
Juice is unhealthy as fuck.

>>22854260 (OP)
>t.

>>22854385
>Juice is unhealthy as fuck
M O O N spells juice.

>>22854336
clogged arteries are a product of being completely sedentary, not strange nuances in the ways your body digests things. most issues are in habits, not biology.

Just did some cardio at home. Thanks 4chan and fuck onions niggers.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7kGnfXXIKZM&pp=ygUbY2hyaXMga25vYmJlIHZlZ2V0YWJsZSBvaWxz

>>22854379
report back when you discover the reason for her blood clogging.

>>22854260 (OP)
you should stop eating OP, permanently, so you won't get sick

>>22854388
That's the point. If you burn the calories you take in, LDL doesn't have a snowball effect of clogging your arteries.

If you're going to be a lazy fuck, just don't eat a lot or change your diet.

Veganiggers blame the food itself with the goal narrative that "Humans are mammals meant to die at 30 and also biologically obligate omnivores that are supposed to eat mostly plants ergo we intellectuals have concluded that modern man must be vegan to live at 80"

>>22854260 (OP)
The number one killer of vegans is still heart disease, your picture is fake.

/thread

>>22854380
>No. The number 1 dietary change that the average westerner should do is cut out ultra processed food.
breakfast cereal is ultra processed and is actually very healthy if eaten with skim milk.
I grew up on cereal and milk and am perfectly healthy.

>>22854260 (OP)
how come every vegan and vegetarian is fat?

>ITS THE MEAT GOY!
>NO ITS THE FAT GOY! PROTEIN IS FINE GOY!
>NO WAIT ITS THE SUGAR!
>NO JUST KIDDING ITS JUST CARBOHYDRATES IN GENERAL
>ACTUALLY U SHOULD JUST EAT RAW VEGGIES, HAVE FULLY GREY HAIR AT AGE 20 AND LOOK LIKE A METH ADDICT!

Bro shut the fuck up nigger, keto has been fine for me, and all my bloodtests turned out to be fine.

Stay away from jew oils and cook everything yourself (i mostly% ground beef / bison), cheese, lettuce / other veggies thrown in.

You cant stop me nigger jew.

>>22854278
>PUFAs let bad
Fuck off with your misinfo greekike, fish oil and nattokinase helps dissolve arterial plaque and reverse Alzheimer's and rebuilds myelin.

>>22854324
There's no point to anything dude, whatever you get you'll lose and anything you start will end. Teleology is gay, the real telos is the friends we make along the way.

>>22854261
Fpbp

>>22854383
bizarre advice. also gross. I don't consume most fruits because of the sugar content.

>>22854323
I'd rather be a lobster, lobsters are psychic.

>>22854260 (OP)
How many vegans and vegetarians did they study compared to meat eaters? I would factor in the mental illnesses of the vegans and vegetarians also.

>>22854394
Cereal is not healthy either, it has little to no nutritional value.

Better off with porridge.

>>22854260 (OP)
You'll have bigger problems than clogged arteries as a vegan.

Eat raw meat.
Simple as.

>>22854335

>Bought and paid for studies are le based
>Heckin actual scientific research using your own body as a means to test things is le stupid

Koolaid drinkers like you deserve to be purged from the planet.

>>22854382
>the average college graduate knows two or three times more than all of these people
not true at all. the average college graduate is actually pretty stupid. you have already outed yourself as a midwit in the first sentence of your reply.
that's also a terrible example because those college graduates tend to agree with the benefits of eating more plants and less meat
>responds to >anecdote with conditional hypothetical anecdote
you are clearly not very smart, maybe just spend the day doing some research on this instead of shitting up this thread with your offensively retarded hypotheticals. or maybe at least don't be so confident about being a retard. I'm embarrassed that I even took the time to finish reading all of that

>>22854401
Also juice has hardly less sugar in it than cola.

If you want to be healthy drink water.

>>22854390
Sorry I don't follow what you mean. I don't know what her diet is like. I was just commenting that vegan = gay or low test does not hold true for me personally.

>>22854260 (OP)
>Meat & Dairy lead to Aethrscorolsis
Not significantly. The #1 caus of aethrosclerosis is smoking.

>>22854395
wut? Harley and Freelee have been doing this for over 30 years. They have never gotten anywhere close to fat. If you look up Harley today he is still ripped af. The steroids he did permanently changed his facial structure but he has been ripped all year round for 30 something years.

>>22854331
What's the suicide rate of vegans?

>>22854260 (OP)
It's true. I recently switched to a diet of 100% corn syrup and I've never felt more healthy.

>>22854265
[ciatation needed]

>>22854409

Carbonaed waer

>>22854394
>>22854404
If you absolutely have to eat a grain in the morning it should be oatmeal.

But it's better to eat something with fat in it, likely to cure any depression you have all by itself. Eggs, yogurt, bacon, whatever, just something with some animal fat in it.

>>22854260 (OP)
Umm. This is absolutely correct. Just admit it that vegan food tastes like shit and has a terrible texture.
Don't do vegan to save the animals. It's for YOU.

>>22854409
Do you think fruit is unhealthy as well?

>>22854316
Based and red(meat)pilled

>>22854279
>especially after learning that B12 deficiency is even more common for them than vegans
Lmao, vegans have to inject themselves with B12 to survive. Pure cope.

>>22854407
>it's healthy because i said so

>>22854413

Not enough

>>22854396
good post. things to prepare at home for even the most inexperienced cooks.
>eggs and toast
>spaghetti
>chili
>any type of fruit/vegetable smoothies
>sandwiches
>grilled cheese and tomato soup
>tuna salad
>tuna sandwich

i'm vegetarian [and a genius]

Care about in any shape or form is utter faggotry.

>>22854418
checked
You dont like potatoes, sweet potatoes, rice, bread, pasta, beans etc? My bean and rice burritos are fucking awesome.

>>22854419
Fruit is good, juice has about the same sugar content as cola. And that's not even touching the artificial additives the cheaprr brands have.

>>22854268
Beause retard like you rasheed flush their cooking oil down the fucking drain and poor cold water after it, cajsing solidifiacation and later calcification.
Only indian blood ways like yours are comparable to sewer pipes since your nothing more than shit its normal that only shit flows trought you sewer veins. Normal human beeings have a rather normal cardiovascularsystem

Kys poojet

in truth, meat is poisonous: consuming flesh greatly shortens the lifespan, and tends to make the carnivore quarrelsome, violent, and quite stupid

>>22854419
most fruit juice sold in stores has tons of added sugars, preservatives, and despite whatever fruits it shows is usually 50%+ apple juice. real fruit juice can be good for you, but it's hard to find that in stores.

>JUDEN GOLDSTEIN FUNDED STUDIES SUGGEST MEAT = BAD CHUD
>I ONLY PUT IN MY MOUTH WHAT MR. GOLDSTEIN TELLS ME TOO CHUD, I AM HECKIN LE SMART.

>>22854404
>Cereal is not healthy either, it has little to no nutritional value. Better off with porridge.
That is dangerous advice. Breakfast cereal is fortified with essential vitamins and minerals. The non-sugary fortified breakfast cereal is extremely healthy and I'd recommend this cereal for children instead of porridge.

>>22854417
Yeah scrambled eggs and porridge is a pretty good breakfast.

>>22854312
>>22854377
Inuit mummies have it

>>22854260 (OP)
You're brown

>>22854408
>the multi-disiplinary study required to graduate college doesn't ACTUALLY make people literal polymaths!
>it makes them dumber, also, it makes them agree with me!
kill yourself. I will murder you with my bare hands in open combat.

>>22854291
What they almost never mention is that polyunsaturated fat polymerizes, exacerbated by cooking with it at frying temperatures. So you are ingesting a form of plastic that your body tries to break down but can't.

>>22854422
>Because based on literally 15 years of testing both diets have concluded its is the best thing i can eat

Fixed that for you, dumb slavic monkey

>>22854261
It's true. One day I had salad for lunch and instantly thought of gay things like Israel being right, and Ukraine Slava.

>>22854260 (OP)
There's no evidence than being vegan makes you live longer.

i get most of my energy from moonlight and the air

>>22854260 (OP)
>Things that never happened.
Because you are a lying vegan, I am going to post this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrH46p1I3UA

>>22854433
why can cereal be fortified to be full of all those, but then they say if you take multivitamins you just end up pissing most of them out?

>>22854260 (OP)
>Covid will cause a winter of death
>Yawn

>>22854260 (OP)
Ya can confirm. My LDL is virtually non-existent at this point. I'll still eat meat and fish every so often, but it really isn't worth it. All the japs are carb maxxing with some fish here and there and they live long healthy lives. It clearly works.

>>22854433
>Breakfast cereal is fortified with essential vitamins and minerals.
No it's not. It's the nutritional equivalent to chaff.

Have porridge, have muesli which is the only good way to have cereal.

>>22854437
again, outing yourself as a midwit
it's embarrassing anon
are you new here?

>>22854260 (OP)
>teeth
>baldness
>heart vessels
Do you think this is fucking WebMD, retard?

quinoa was fortified by the gods themselves, the white man is a fool

>>22854260 (OP)
Vegan in avarage live not longer

>>22854428
The sugar in fruit and the sugar in juice are the exact same sugar. To take it even farther. The sugar in fruit is the exact same sugar in white table sugar. They are the exact same molecule. Saying fruit is good but fruit juice is bad is some fucking extreme retardation.

>>22854441
But there's lots of evidence that makes you gay

>>22854452
Harder to over consume fruit flesh though, to be fair. Most meme diet shit is burying the lede.

>>22854260 (OP)
LET ME EAT ZE BUGS PLEASE!

>>22854454
>Harder to over consume fruit flesh though, to be fair
When you are a fruit
Faggot

>>22854452
>The sugar in fruit and the sugar in juice are the exact same sugar.
No shit. The sugar in mexican coka cola and in fruit is the same. It's the quantity that's the issue with fruit juice, even squeezed juice you are consuming far more sugar due to the volume you'll have than if you just ate the fruit.

>>22854260 (OP)
That drawing of scary arteries with made-up captions convinced me.

I will now eat grass and stay weak and docile forever. Thanks, Dr. Goldberg!

Going to make some extra bacon for my burger in your honor.

>>22854444
>why can cereal be fortified to be full of all those, but then they say if you take multivitamins you just end up pissing most of them out?

Because it's much cheaper to eat a basic diet every day and take a multivitamin, rather than buy all the foods necessary to get essential nutrients. The food industry wants your money!

>>22854260 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywsVg2Zyffg

There is no robust data suggesting saturated fat causes atherosclerosis:
https://academic.oup.com/eurjpc/article-abstract/29/18/2312/6691821
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31841151/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2824152/
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0735109720356874
https://bmjopen.bmj.com/content/4/4/e004487

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9794145/
>Thus, from 1961 on, the AHA recommended that all men (and subsequently women) decrease their consumption of saturated fat, replacing these fats whenever possible with polyunsaturated vegetable oils, as the most promising measure of protection against heart disease.
>The 1961 American Heart Association advice to limit saturated fat is arguably the single-most influential nutrition policy ever published, as it came to be adopted first by the U.S. government, as official policy for all Americans, in 1980, and then by governments around the world as well as the World Health Organization. It is worth noting that the AHA had a significant conflict of interest, since in 1948, it had received $1.7 million, or about $20 million in today's dollars, from Procter & Gamble (P&G), the makers of Crisco oil. This donation was transformative for the AHA, propelling what was a small group into a national organization.

>>22854454
It is impossible to over consume just sugar. You burn it or piss it out. Sugar has never been shown to create visual fat stores. If you stuck a tube down someones throat and poured 2kg (8000cals) of sugar into their stomach they would weigh 2kg more in that moment. The next day they would be the weigh they were just before the sugar bomb. If you did that for 1 month the person would lose bf.

>>22854459
IM LE VEGAN GHOUL LUUK IN MY FACE THE DIET WORKS

>>22854458
see
>>22854465

>>22854465
>impossible to over consume just sugar.
Greatest vegan nutritionist.
>You burn it or piss it out.
>piss it out.

>>508383198
o-okay..?

>>22854265
"onions" is so full of estrogen it can change the sex of reptiles, amphibians and fish

>>22854457
When will the jannies ban low quality comments?
>>22854465
Uh... Ok nigga. You go do that. If you're pissing sugar, you're literally diabetic.

>>22854470
>if I repeat a lie, it becomes true
basically everything in America is made with basedbean products. This is just retarded and false.

>>22854468
Head over to Australia and have a race with Harley. He's around 50 so you should beat him, right? He's consumed thousands and thousands of kg's of sugar. Surely he must be near dead now after 30 years.

>>22854472
Kek. Uncanny.

>>22854260 (OP)
Just take Repatha

>>22854470

Onions themselves don't contain human estrogen or testosterone. However, research suggests that onions contain certain compounds that may influence hormone production in humans, particularly testosterone.

Literally 1 google search you stupid ass nigger

>>22854465
liver failure and kidney stones is what lies ahead of the vegan ghoul.
>eternal torment up to his day of death
not even demons will use them because theyre too weak.
whats the purpos of this.
laughing at them?
why do you want to take away energy from our precious demons. this is not good.

>>22854471
Sure it is a sign of diabetes but also completely natural body function if you over eat sugar. You can look all of this shit up but you faggots refuse and then come on here and spout your expert bullshit..

>>22854474
You have diabetes if you have sugar in your piss.

People get fat because they don't consume enough carbs and consume too much fat. If you get a lot of calories from fat, then your body is starved of carbs, and your blood sugar will crash, creating food cravings.
However, if you abstain from fat and only eat starchy foods, your body will get plenty of sugar to power it all day, and hunger will be nonexistent.

>>22854260 (OP)
Lipids on a vessel isn’t a cause of damage but a result of inflammation of the endothelium. The inflammation is done by VLDL ( very low density lipoproteins) produced by carbs metabolism

>>22854481
checked
this. sugar is energy to kick lifes balls everyday.

I switched to a pure meat and cheese diet a few months ago and went from being an obese person to looking unironically like chad with a well developed maxilar muscle

Unironically the entire trick to make your cheecks stop looking like a fat woman is to chew a lot, coincidentally chewing meat is optimal for this.

Cut out all sugar and flour based food from your life and you will look like chad in 6 months.

I lost unironically like 30kg in this time.

>>22854483

>Rotting teeth
>Sugar crashes
>High inflammation levels
>High mucus production

Think ill pass

>>22854348
It's calcium

>>22854469
newfag outed

>>22854479
>but also completely natural body function if you over eat sugar.
No it's not. If you have glycosuria you have consumed too much sugar that your body hasn't managed to digest it all.

You reaching that point it causing damage to your body. You are not pissing out excess, you have consumed to your body's limits.

>>22854471
>hen will the jannies ban low quality comments?
When your whore mother stops sucking them off

>>22854486
Calci-YUM!

How to troll the shit out of poltards with minimal effort: page 1.

>>22854260 (OP)
Intermittent fasting, how humans are supposed to operate. You store fat so you can eat it the same day. Also has huge autophagy benefits.

>>22854485
>brush your teeth and floss after eating
>high fat diets cause 'sugar crashes'
>low fat diets are low inflammation
>Carbs are water soluble and much easier to digest than fats and proteins.

>>22854490
You've misspelled plague buildup

>>22854260 (OP)
Veganism sucks, I was vegan for 12 years and got sick all the time.
Went back to eating meat a decade ago, never felt better, and my blood work comes back flawless every year.
Not to mention, the group who has died the MOST of people I’ve known in the past decade have been my old vegan acquaintances - cancer, heart attacks, MS….veganism doesn’t make you ANY less prone to getting any disease, only jew retard “experts” claim this despite there being no actual data to back it up.
Oh well. OP, nobody wants your overpriced shit-tier fat diet, so kill yourself and fuck off.

>>22854261
Fpbp. OP is gay as usual.
>>22854491
Shut up, bitch, before I take your bussy by force.

>>22854260 (OP)
i was le organ meat, fat and high protein for 15+ years but had some veggies like broccoli and carbs too
i'm aiming to do more phases of raw keto vegan, i feel much better on it than the standard diets i've had in the past

>>22854485
sugar is ph neutral.

>>22854494
Plague.

Jews cause plagues.

>>22854260 (OP)
If you exercise, limit oils, drink tons of water and have a ton of produce in your diet, you will not get atherosclerosis. No alcohol, smoking, vaping, sugars, etc. The obvious

>>22854260 (OP)
Atherosclerosis comes from damage to your vessels. Fat deposits, in the absence of collagen, build up to heal the vessel damage.

So the solution? Get to the root cause of the damage done to the vessels. If not, then eat a lot more Vitamin C so collagen takes precedence over Fat when healing up vessel damage.

>>22854260 (OP)
Full veggie made me feel like a skeleton. Full carnivore makes me feel sick. The best meal is a cheesy salad with lots of veggies and Italian dressing. That shit is like Popeye eating spinach, instantly makes me feel right.

>>22854498
what happens when your body breaks it down

>>22854498
Sugar is broken down by bacteria into acid. That's the tooth decay sugar causes.

>>22854260 (OP)
>But you now you have an untreatable condition called "being an insufferable cunt!"
Which may cause indirect death if done in the wrong areas.
>Chose life, Chose Bacon.

I'm not reading the thread but you had no energy because you were on a keto diet you fucking retard. You just jumped from one meme diet to another

>>22854465
This is some funny junk science, I bet you are one fat fucking jeet.

>>22854397
L-Lysine, Glycine, and K2-Mk4 are the only things that remove calcified plaque. Niacinamide rebuilds myelin.

Most fish oil is rancid. The studies on fish oil in animal models show it's not even close to being good.

>>22854505
Choosing bacon in the UK is very likely to cause death.

>>22854493
>brush your teeth and floss after eating
I did, still got cavities
>high fat diets cause 'sugar crashes'
Nope
>low fat diets are low inflammation
Depends on what you are eating my guy, plenty of vegan foods are inflammatory
>Carbs are water soluble and much easier to digest than fats and proteins.
Easier to digest, but far less nutrient dense and almost no usable protein

Ive tried so many types of vegan diets, and all i get are emotional rollercoasters, depression, rotting teeth, mucus from hell and drooling while sleeping, moodswings, dizziness.

The only good thing i can posit is it is easier on your stomach for sure, and its far cheaper than buying meat all the fucking time.

>>22854499
Yeah I was thinking about the holocaust as I was thinking typing about plaque. Anyhow, since you weren't a faggot about it, calcium supplements increase plaque in arteries if you don't take K2 supplements alongside with it.

>>22854433
>JUST EAT FROOT LOOPS DUMB FUCK GOYIM!

>>22854498

Are you stupid or retarded?

Sugar promots bacterial growth, they eat the sugar and poop, their poop is acidic and eats through your teeth, it also loves to stick to your teeth, which is why you should brush twice a day.

>>22854488
What is alimentary glycosuria? Keep educating me expert.
>There’s also a temporary form of glycosuria — called alimentary glycosuria — that happens when you eat a lot of carbohydrates at once. It takes longer than usual for your blood and urine glucose levels to stabilize. Unless you have a condition that affects your blood sugar levels, symptoms should go away within several hours.

>>22854433
>JUST EAT FROOT LOOPS DUMB FUCK GOYIM!

>>22854260 (OP)
This is the correct dier;

1. MEAT COOKED WITH FAT
2. EGGS
3. HATE.
4. PUSSY
5.PURE COCONUT WATER PLUS LEMONS.

I am here to tell all of you that sugar = Carbohydrates

There is no practical difference in how the body perceives them, it all ends up turning into fat if you don't burn them up with physical exercise immediately.

This is the real reason people are obese, they think they can get away with consuming either of those without physical exercise because muh 2000 calories per day.

Most doctors are dead wrong and know nothing about nutrition

You can thank me later faggots.

>>22854511
Not too surprising, Calci-YUM is a brand of sugary yogurt we have here. And yeah calcium is bad for you in excess for that reason.

It's called atherosclerosis
Everyone aged 50 has it...


Read up about endothelial dysfunction

You are literally rotting on the inside

>>22854260 (OP)
post physique veganfaggot (you wont)

>>22854263
It's called cholesterol and CRP - inflammation

>>22854514
>temporary
>eat fruit, drink juice every day.
It's not temporary if you've recommended high daily intake.

>>22854444
>multivitamins

>not eating liver once in a while.

>>22854260 (OP)
>People die from stuff

Don't care still eating burgers.

>>22854279
>Meat eaters need to take vitamin supplements to survive and not vegans
Why are you telling such a bold lie? That is the opposite of reality.

>>22854523
>eating fast food
>not realizing yids are waiting for you there with spicy ingredients

>>22854452
not entirely, there is sucrose in table sugar, and most fruit has fructose. honey has more fructose than high fructose corn syrup too. sucrose has less of an effect of blood sugar as it is more complex. it needs processing by the liver to activate it. this is why diabetics use orange juice to raise blood sugar if it's too low.
if you got the same amount of orange juice from whole orange segments, you might not be able to eat that much at one sitting. so with juice you get the cell wall broken down and the nutrients, including sugar, are easier to take up by the intestinal walls. same goes for anything in a blender. this is why dr greger recommends a low fat, whole foods plant based diet rather than a "vegan" diet, which is in its simplest form, a diet free from animal foods. he recommends whole grains, beans, fruits, etc and has all kinds of studies to back his findings up. he does recommend greens in smoothies, as the blender makes the nutrients more available. but do the same to wheat, and it becomes more like sugar. the exception is pasta, which is pressed into shape so hard that it becomes resistant again to digestion. these resistant starches feed your gut bacteria, which then feed you short chain fatty acids.
i just came off doing high fat diets for years, and i am doing a lot better in the first couple of weeks. i did keto and carnivore for arthiritis, and it seemed to work for a while, but made things worse in the long run. it turns out keto and carnivore mask the high blood sugar, as your bod can't uptake any glucose because the cells are full of fat.
it turns out the best diet for diabetics is one very high is carbs, low in protein, and very low in fat.
https://youtu.be/j53TpAK-x-A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoZZBfUUrvE

>>22854470
Men need estrogen and testosterone, retard
Without estrogen male body doesn't function properly

Read about basic biology

>>22854518
A 3 week fast or more has in some patients kick started cell regen

>>22854272
lol

>>22854528
>3 week fast or more

How do they survive? I can't last more than 16 hours, I start to become weak and brain fogged without food. I eat a snack bar and I immediately gain energy..

>>22854279
And lets not forget what Einstein said:
>"So I am living without fats, without meat, without fish, but am feeling quite well this way. It always seems to me that man was not born to be a carnivore."


>>22854421
He did not mention anything about veganism? He literally said that consuming less meat is healthier. You have to educate yourself on the difference between vegan and vegetarian.

just eat normal fucking food
why is this so hard for americans

>>22854524
your reading comprehension needs work, bud
I said carnivores, not "meat eaters"
carnivores do have higher rates of B12 deficiency than vegans, particularly because vegans generally know to supplement that and thus avoid them iirc
carnivores also need to supplement fiber, vitamin C, and potassium (if they don't get enough bone broth), which is more than vegans have to supplement
the carnivore diet is obviously one of the least healthy meme diets (obvious to everybody who does'nt just believe everything they see on social media, that is)

>>22854260 (OP)
Take bromelain on an empty stomach. The enzyme breaks down fibrin which is what holds these blockages together. Studies have been done with rabbits, they reverted them from the equivalent of a 50 year old human's level of arteriosclerosis to that of a 20 year old. It's cheap too, and it has other benefits like anti-cancer and anti-inflammatory.

>>22854531
>

>>22854263
Kek!
SNEED OIL!!!

>>22854521
Did I say you consume sugar nonstop all day? Better set an alarm. How many times a day do you fucking eat?
>Breakfast 6am
>Lunch 12am
>inner 5-6am
how fucking hard is this to understand? If you ate 3 meals of just sugar (say 2000cals) you will spike your insulin and it will come down after 2 hours (this is literally the diabetes test) your body will refill every cell in your body with glucose. Glucose is the fuel every cell in your body runs off. Your metabolism will ramp the fuck up. And you will just piss out any surplus. In addition, water with added sugar re-hydrates you 60% more than just water. It's why they give you IV bags with sugar in them.

>>22854531
I did mention vegans having lower rates of B12 deficiency actually, which is true and hilarious
>>22854421
most of them just take sublingual tablets, and they are basically the cheapest supplement you can get
anyway, don't forget to take your six tablespoons of meta mucil per day if you're a carnivore! enjoy the heavy metal poisoning

>>22854510
>I did, still got cavities
Then you aren't doing it right. I brush and floss after every meal and only eat twice a day. use rubber fingertips and nitrile gloves to make flossing easier and less painful.
>Nope
High fat diets cause sugar crashes because your body isn't getting enough sugar to survive. The brain and muscles need lots of sugar. it's super important. So high fat diets stimulate hunger and create hunger pain and make you tired.
>Depends on what you are eating my guy, plenty of vegan foods are inflammatory
I solved all my inflammation problems by abstaining from fat. I can use the computer all day every day without carpel tunnel or painful knuckles or any pain at all because my body is free of inflammation due to my very low fat diet. when I ate fat, I had excruciating pain in my hands from inflammation.
>Easier to digest, but far less nutrient dense and almost no usable protein
that's a bonus. you can eat more starchy foods. more fiber is good for you too. fat is unsatisfying, that is why many fat eaters are also alcoholics. I eat simple starchy fibrous meals and take a multivitamin to get my nutrients.

>>22854291
This is so close. It's not just seed oils or one specific thing. Sure those are bad, but you are right saying it is inflammation. Modern diet is basically trash. Even "healthy" diets (let's use vegetarian to illustrate) are full of garbage unless you are eating organic. And even then those vegetables they love to label as superfoods are not particularly good due to a load of things you probably shouldn't be eating. Even "real" bread uses fortified flour, fortified with things you do not need.
Top this off with food that lacks minerals due to industrial farming practices and gl being able to eat healthily.
Those "superfoods" with antioxidants shut down aldh, your primary detox pathway, meaning you never get rid of things you should.

>>22854537
>Did I say you consume sugar nonstop all day
Yes, you did.

>>22854516
simple sugars have no additional nutrients. I always say starch, or fibrous starch, when talking about my diet.

>>22854516
This guy gets it.
Americans got the FATTEST starting in the 1980s when a fake “science” organization called the Center for Science in the Public Interest took a bunch of shitty data, got their palms greased by big food companies, and pushed the “you don’t get fat if you don’t eat fat” plan. Thousands of new low-fat/no-fat foods were launched, and suddenly, obesity skyrocketed.
Why is that? Because, as the Argie said, your body doesn’t know sugar from any other carb, and every person can only process so many calories per day before they gain fat no matter WHAT they eat. If you eat 10k cal of sugar a day, you’ll get fat. If you eat 10k cal of pasta per day, you’ll get fat. If you eat 10k cal of fatty meat per day, you’ll get fat.
You can’t outrun CICO no matter how hard you cope and lie to yourself that there are foods you can eat in unlimited quantities and not get fat because they contain no fat. Anyone who thinks they’re special and can get away with it is retarded and should enter the Canadian suicide pod.

>>22854541
Green text where I said that.

>>22854473
i avoid onions like the plague fuck that shit. there is nothing good about onions other than its cheap. if you eat it youre a kike bug nigger and def NOT WHITE

>>22854260 (OP)
>how do you cope with that?
Quite well. I don't intend to die at the ripe age of 90 something, full of dementia and god knows what.
We live too fucking long as it is with modern medicine which can't keep up with degradation of the brain. Wait until you've cared for a parent with dementia before you post this retarded vegan shit again you smarmy little cunt.

proofs? all i see is a drawing

>>22854265
>>Dairy causes low sperm counts
Fake news.

>>22854539

You do you senpai, ill keep eating meat broski

>>22854530
I can go 10 days without food while others find fasting a stressful experience. The choice is between being sick and unwell VS experiencing some food cravings but allowing your immune system to repair what could still be salvaged and feeling much better.

>>22854260 (OP)
This is why you eat a varied diet and don't go full carnivore like a psycho.
And preferably axe all ultra processed foods if you can.

>>22854544
>>22854383
>My personal recommendation would be vegan for 6 days a week (lots of fruit and juice till dinner then load up that starch)

>>22854551
>varied diet
middle ground fallacy

>>22854546
Based people think life past 65 will be like life at 25 when in reality it can be hellish especially with shit like dementia.

>>22854543
>Americans got the FATTEST starting in the 1980s when a fake “science” organization called the Center for Science in the Public Interest took a bunch of shitty data, got their palms greased by big food companies, and pushed the “you don’t get fat if you don’t eat fat” plan. Thousands of new low-fat/no-fat foods were launched, and suddenly, obesity skyrocketed.
You know, this is an interesting point, i think the answer is even more sinister, the much simpler truth is that "vegan" or "Vegetarian" diets are actually meant for a war time economy because they are MUCH faster to produce than raising animals. However, this wasn't the intended diet to keep forever, it was supposed to be temporary, however we are right now coming to the point that most people have spent their entire lives eating literal fucking garbage that should be fed to animals to fatten them up.

Pic very related. (((they))) know exactly what they are doing, it is all intentional.

>>22854550
How do you stay alive that long? You can easily get electrolyte imbalances and a lethal ventricular arrythmia (cardiac arrest)

>>22854555
Follow up on that

>>22854543
Lard's popularity in the United States declined significantly in the mid-20th century, specifically from the 1950s onward

Its unironically the oils

>>22854546
plenty of people function perfectly fine into their 80s and even 90s, and are even able to still enjoy life up to 100+
there are even examples of this in third world shitholes
don't be such a pussy

>>22854559
>and some are even able to still enjoy life up to 100+*

>>22854554
>>22854559
My grandparents went out relatively easy since they had lots of comorbidities like type 1 beetus and whatnot. Coma + stroke and so on.
My father however started getting alzheimer type dementia in his mid 70s, lasted until his mid 80s. Didn't know who any in his immediate family was, thought his mother who he had a falling out with 50 years earlier to the point of never speaking with her again was coming to pick him up and shitting + pissing in the corners of the room because he couldn't figure out where the toilet was or how it worked.

No fucking thank you. I'll pop a clog in my early 70s and be done with it. If I live longer and get dementia, I'll go end it in Switzerland or something with at least a semblance of grace.

>>22854559
>people are able to enjoy life up to 100 +
Lol when does the enjoying start

>>22854533
But nobody is realistically comparing carnivore diets to vegans. It's almost always comparing normal diets that include meat compared to vegans. Specifically using the word "carnivore" is facetious and meant to be deceptive to make vegan diets not look retarded in the only way it can which is compared to another ridiculous diet.

>>22854260 (OP)
>brain fog, dizziness and fatigue
Commonly happens because your body can't hold on to electrolytes with that diet. The solution wasn't to do a 180 with a weak plant based diet, but to include fruit and honey. At a minimum 100 grams per day, up to 300 grams if you're being extremely active. Your new plant based diet is going to fuck your gut up in the long term. Without animal fat, you're going to struggle to produce hormones like testosterone. There is no plant alternative to the micro nutrients found in meat, meaning you will become micro nutrient deficient. You'll lose bone density and develope ostioperosis. Plants have defence chemicals that humans aren't capable of dealing with. Plants have oxalates that bind to minerals in your gut and cause you to become mineral deficient.

The redpill is that humans aren't supposed to eat plants, and plants don't want you eating them. Eating the fruit of a plant is different because you consume the fruit and spit out the seeds. That's how the plants reproduce. That's completely different to wheat for example, where you eat the seeds, or spinach, where you eat the plant itself.

>>22854495
12 years is crazy. Most stop after 5, only the most insane go to 10 years. Hope you don't have any long term issues from that.

>>22854552
Yeah, theyre called meals you pedantic faggot. Everything I have said is scientific fact. Do you enjoy being belligerently ignorant? I thought that Americans had a monopoly on that.

>>22854558
>Lard's popularity in the United States
Lard today, particularly in the US does not resemble lard in the 50s. In large part due to animal diet. When Australia says we don't want US beef it is primarily because our beef is already good and yours is grain raised trash with yellow, toxic fat.
So it isn't as simple as
>Just go back to lard
Because at this point, you couldn't without overhauling your beef industry

>>22854561
Oh and my father's body was really fucking strong so him dying took almost a month. Thank you, modern medicine.

>>22854556
It's not that bad, honestly. If you're psychologically strong you can muscle your way through it. Day 3-4 is the hardest because you begin crave and fantasise food. The urge fades by day 5 and you simply stop giving a shit as you get overwhelmed by mind clarity.

If milk was bad the world wouldn't be ruled by peoples who carry the mutation for lactase persistence.

>>22854547
There is none, it's literally impossible to nor die from a vegan diet

>>22854534
I was wondering if anyone would post this.
I'm on this along with a spike detox.
I can really feel the difference. Stuff works.

>>22854569
Unironically just do the mongol diet + excercise.

Meat + dairy, pretend you are a steppe mongol, this diet worked really well for me and i gained muscle and lost weight drastically.

>>22854561
Its fucking awful seeing someone degrade like that, i saw it with my granny it sucked. I totally agree if i ever get diagnosed i will blow my brains out

>>22854569
>If milk was bad the world wouldn't be ruled by peoples who carry the mutation for lactase persistence.
But we were not able to drink gallons of it every day if we had the urge to. Nor did historical milk animals produce all year round. Not did they eat what they do now and try to off load toxins in their milk.

>>22854562
watching your family grow exponentially has got to be pretty enjoyable, no?
my grandmother was pretty spritely even into her 90s, as was her mother before her, and she was very content with her life before she got cancer
>>22854561
if you don't have good genes for longevity then I could understand the pessimism, but I am still of the belief that you should try to live as long and healthily as you can and continue passing down what works and what doesn't to progeny via experience/observation
Dementia scares the shit out of me, too, and I'm pretty sure my dad is starting to get it, but he also has abused the shit out of his body so it's no surprise. his brothers are doing just fine, because they didnt do drugs, went to the doctor regularly, ate healthily, etc
>>22854563
what? of course people are realistically comparing carnivore to vegan. they are two meme diets which are polar opposites. were you born yesterday?
>Specifically using the word "carnivore" is facetious and meant to be deceptive to make vegan diets not look retarded in the only way it can which is compared to another ridiculous diet.
you sound pretty insecure, anon
it's called the "carnivore diet"
they identify as carnivores
are you okay?

>>22854561
What if I told you it's possible to be more healthy than the average 60 year old at the age of 80? That's really what living longer means. You achieve greater health and that extends the amount of time you remain capable of cognitive.

>>22854575
>Dementia scares the shit out of me, too
The thing is, everyone gets a form of dementia. It's just a matter of living long enough. Modern medicine can keep you alive for a very long time, but it does not work for the brain.

>>22854271
It's been the gospel preached by incompetent fools, and their disciples and propaganda apparatus since Ancel Keys in the 60's.
"Let the little children come to me, and do not hinder them, for the kingdom of heaven belongs to such as these." Politicians are instructing their propaganda agents to chase down the young who have disconnected from old media like TV and print media, so they can administer the "approved opinions" into their malleable and impressionable young minds.

>>22854576
You don't know shit from shinola, kid.

>>22854577
>The thing is, everyone gets a form of dementia
maybe, but again there are plenty of cases of people living to 100+ and being perfectly lucid, mobile, etc.,
I choose to be optimistic and shoot for the stars, because I have the genes for it

>>22854575
You cannot compare our run of life to our grandparents they bought properties that cost them a bag of beans and a chicken we will own nothing and enjoy life to 100 +

>>22854260 (OP)
you'll kill yourself decades before my heart attack, faggot

>>22854582
wut dat

>>22854581
I can and will, and you should too
it's your birth right, after all

>>22854583
an air pump. I'll grow my own fish if needed. I'll feed them vegans.

>indians barely eat any meat. look how strong they are. look how buffed they are. they are not meek and weak by any means and they win all the gold medals on every olympics and are the best ufc fighters. meat eaters are so weak and they are so meak that they lose every physical competition. also we must remember indians are also mentally strong. they were not annexed by the anglos that tried everything to annex them.
>we must stop eating meat fellas.
>it is making us gay.

So Britain is funding the causes that USAID used to fund now, is what I'm getting from this. Must be heartbreaking choosing between giving money to their New Brits, or giving it to Ukraine, or funding libtarded globohomo agitprop.

>>22854583
I looked it up its some form of air pump, probably for a fish tank, i was also curious, thought it was a fingerbox intially
>>22854584
My grandparents raised 8 children on a single paycheck and owned their own home.

>>22854260 (OP)
Looks like it's animal revenge, baby!

>>22854588
we won't get that in our lifetimes, but we can still work toward that future for our progeny (as if I'll ever have any kek)

wtf janny? You moved it at 330? fucking retarded.

>>22854955
jannies are know-nothing retards as we saw in the leaks (using aliases tied to real names, edu emails, etc).

veganism/food threads will always be political in nature since there's a long standing attempt by elites at poisoning and weakening ordinary people for the purpose of depopulation, using dangerous meme diets like veganism.