Thread 22865576

Linux now runs games faster than Windows 11

https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2025/06/games-run-faster-on-steamos-than-windows-11-ars-testing-finds/

Nearly a decade ago, Ars testing found that Valve's "Steam Machines"-era version of

>SteamOS (a variation of Linux) performed significantly worse than Windows

when SteamOS's Linux game ports were tested on the same hardware as their Windows counterparts.

>Today, though, Ars testing finds recent games generally run at higher frame rates on SteamOS 3.7 than on Windows 11.

As you can see in the included charts, SteamOS showed noticeable frame rate improvements in four of the five games tested. Only Borderlands 3 showed comparable performance across both operating systems, with Windows eking out ever-so-slightly higher frame rates in that game's benchmarks.

For the other four tested games, the stock Lenovo Windows drivers were sometimes significantly worse than those included with SteamOS.

When playing Returnanal at "High" graphics presets and 1920x1200 resolution, for instance, changing from Lenovo's Windows drivers to SteamOS meant the difference between a hard-to-take 18 FPS average and a downright decent 33 FPS average.

Sideloading the updated Asus drivers showed a noticeable improvement in Windows performance across all tested games and even brought Homeworld 3's "Low" graphics benchmark test to practical parity with SteamOS. In all other cases, though, even these updated drivers resulted in benchmark frame rates anywhere from 8 percent to 36 percent lower than those same benchmarks on SteamOS.

These results might seem a bit counterintuitive, considering that games running on SteamOS must go through a Proton translation layer. But Valve has put in consistent work over the years to make Proton as efficient and cross-compatible as possible; not to mention its continued work on Linux's Mesa graphics drivers seems to be paying dividends for SteamOS graphics performance.

>>22865576 (OP)
>downright decent 33 FPS average

Nigga I'm not gonna switch

Cool and not surprising

>>22865576 (OP)
Unless OEMs like Dell/HP start loading Linux on their prebuilt systems, 99% of people are not going to use it. The only reason why they were willing to do it for Chrome OS is because the computers they put it on were so cheap they could just be written off if they didn't sell. Oh, and also because Chrome was so familiar to the average normie that Chrome OS didn't generate tons of support calls for OEMs. Linux would be an absolute nightmare disaster for OEMs to support and the computers they sold it on would have a 99% return rate. Steam OS works because it's a purpose built device. No one is trying to rely on it as an actual computer. Imagine the panic and frustration of your average normie booting up a Linux computer and not being able to run Zoom or Teams or set up their printer. That computer would be going back to the store so fast that Dell and HP wouldn't even be able to sell through the first production run. This is why the "year of the Linux desktop" has never happened and why it never will happen. Even with the "support" from OEMs (shit skins making $0.14/hour over in India providing such "support") it's still a non-starter for your average computer user.

>>22865576 (OP)
>spacing and obsessed with childrens toys
Checks out. Go back.

>When playing Returnanal
>Returnanal

>>22865578
Retarded normie spic

>>22865580
can't you just, NOT be retarded and switch out your OS?

>>22865576 (OP)
If you're going to run windows 11, run windows 11 LTSC. It's a stripped down no bullshit version that runs faster and cleaner. Linux is a better choice, but Windows LTSC runs pretty good. There is very little other than the OS with this build too.

>>22865580
Dell offers Ubuntu as an option. It's literally happening.

When will there be good alternatives to MS office and adobe? The current freeware stuff like libre office and gimp are dogshit.

>>22865583
...said the dirty smelly gypsy inbred shitskin.

Daily reminder that your dirty race was expelled from the Indian subcontinent (they were the "untouchables") and now they plague the continent with your presence. Carlos III should've finished the job here.

https://www.museuvirtualgitano.cat/en/history/last-pragmatic-decree/

>>22865580
I actually have Dell laptop that came with Linux on it. It's an XPS 13 Developer Edition. Good product overall.

>>22865581
Faggot

>>22865580
IT JUST DOESN'T WORK, TRUST ME BRO

>>22865576 (OP)
Kekked until my sides hurt over the Seagate drive. Holy shit.

>>22865588
>...said the dirty smelly gypsy inbred shitskin.
kys spic.
Whiter than you BTW.

>>22865576 (OP)
>>22865577
>games faster than Windows 11
Saar JavaScript is the future

>>22865576 (OP)
>muh 10 fps
don't care, 5090 go brrrrr
also I have to use autocad so

>>22865585
If you're going to run windows use 10 LTSC and disable all updates and possible communications to microshart servers, never install 11, never install 12, winblows is a dead OS, competely jeeted to the ground.

>>22865576 (OP)
Kek at the seagate.

>>22865584
>can't you just, NOT be retarded and switch out your OS?
I can, yes. Unfortunately 99% of normies can't.

>>22865586
>Dell offers Ubuntu as an option. It's literally happening.
And they have for decades. Nobody buys them except for businesses that use them for niche purposes.

>>22865593
Cope, you shitskin gypsy. I don't like you. Europeans don't like you. Niggers don't like you. Not even jeets liked you, that's why you're even here, polluting our beautiful continent with your presence. Fuck off.

>>22865576 (OP)
So, THIS year is year of the Linux desktop yeah? They've been saying that for decades - Linux is just too neckbeard for anyone who want to be productive.

>>22865576 (OP)
The way you will know linux is taking over is when those poo tech videos on jewtube change from being in notepad to being in vi. Normies are extremely incapable when it comes to technology. The only reason we pretend normies are capable is because most os changes over the past 25 years have been slightly changing something but keeping it mostly the same. Look at how windows 8 flopped due to an entire ui redesign. Then they stair step it with 10 20h2, 21h2 and 22h2 changes. Doing the same thing now with windows 11 and 24h2. My company kvetched so hard over the new right click menu I had to bake a registry change into gpo to fix right click on login to go back to the old look.
If there were a flavor of linux which was truly a windows clone then maybe it would have a chance. But the closest to windows is still too difficult for a normie to sit down and be able to use it without hand holding. Maybe if linux got big in the late 70s and had buddies at IBM they could have been the top dog but they didn't so they aren't.

>>22865599
>Cope, you shitskin gypsy. I don't like you. Europeans don't like you. Niggers don't like you. Not even jeets liked you, that's why you're even here, polluting our beautiful continent with your presence. Fuck off.
t. poop coloured skin having, t50 eye wearing, 70iq on average cocaine monkey

>>22865576 (OP)
linux is for trannies. just keep using windows.

>>22865596
win11 is crap. I also intend to use win10 LTSC in the future for the rare times win is better than linux as win10 is really the last decent windows on the same tier as vista.
However, you do realise that after some point win10 will become obsoleted much like XP and win7(to a point) have been? As in programs simply won't run on them.

>>22865603
>linux is for trannies. just keep using windows.
t. 80iq shartmerican't mutt

>>22865576 (OP)
This is the problem with Linux:

>I want to run X program? Can I?
No. You'll have to find a free alternative that sucks ass that no one uses so you can't even look online to teach yourself how to use it (not that normies do this even with mainstream applications).

>I'm looking for a printer. Can I use it with Linux?
Yeah, probably, but you can't just follow the instructions that came with the printer. You can't even go to the manufacturer website and manually install it. You have to hope and pray that it will show up and just automatically work in Linux otherwise you'll have to open the terminal and get advice from self righteous assholes online who think it's normal to spend 6 hours to set up a printer. If you were using Windows you would be up and running in 5 minutes.

>I have this Zoom/Teams link but it doesn't work!
Tough shit. You're either stuck in the browser or you have to install Windows. Either that or hope that the world adopts ScreenDolphin or whatever retarded free alternative there is in Linux, which will never happen.

>So I spent days researching and found Libre Office or whatever the retarded thing is called but my documents look messed up when I open them!
Too bad. You have to reformat them all. Oh, and don't you dare export the reformatted document to .doc or .docx because when your colleagues go to open your document, it will be scrambled.

>Fuck this shit! I want to buy Microsoft Office!
Too bad. Microsoft Office doesn't work on Linux, and neither does any other normal program except for Chrome and Firefox. I hope you love the terminal because it's time to update your useless applications that no one uses so your computer won't fail to boot the next time you turn it on.

>>22865604
>you do realise that after some point win10 will become obsoleted much like XP and win7(to a point) have been? As in programs simply won't run on them.
Then I will only use the programs that require no internet connection that don't work on linux and if I need to use the internet I go on linux, I already have it installed on another drive anyway.

>>22865604
>Win11 bad
>Win10 good
Tale as old as time.

Wincucks are so fucking stupid.

the reality of GNU+Linux is that every month something new is broken and you find that the issue is fixed upstream 3 months later but no new release is ever made so you build your own local version but it breaks every time the distro packages update and 2 years later there are working packages in the wild but now dozens of other things are also totally broken

>>22865576 (OP)
DRM is getting a proper scheduler too so it should be less awful in the near future. The FIFO one is too easy to accidentally stall.

There is too much jewish spyware on kike-rosoft, all the intelligent whites switched ages ago. Seriously, there’s like 50 or more outgoing requests to Mossad, JIDF, Palantir, Bill Gates, Soros, and CNN’s servers every time you type or interact with the computer. Just proxy your device and look at the content of the outgoing requests full of your family photos, screenshots of your computer, the exact pornography you like (Blacked ofc) as well as your current geographic coordinates to any patrolling drones. Who would want Soros to have all that data on you??

>>22865608
>>Win11 bad
>>Win10 good
>Tale as old as time.
>Wincucks are so fucking stupid.
Hey nigger retard, know what nuance is?

>>22865576 (OP)
safe for what? safe from whom?

>>22865607
I can only hope that winblows gets left in the dust and linux becomes mainstream.

>>22865608
>doesn't add anything besides installing more jeetware and NSA backdoors
Yes, 11 bad
10 itself is worse than 7 but only necessary because certain things don't run on 7, such as CUDA

>>22865576 (OP)
But what if I want to play more than 40% of PC games?

>>22865587
Just run the windows versions on Linux.

>>22865617
>I NEED to earn fake points in addictive multiplayer vidya instead of having a tinge of privacy during the last decade on Earth
ngmi

>>22865617
haven't you heard of WINE?

>>22865592
I wish it was a joke.
Each successive HDD I bought the past few years lasted less and less.
My raptor started croaking in under a month.
Competency crisis etc.

>>22865576 (OP)
>https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2025/06/games-run-faster-on-steamos-than-windows-11-ars-testing-finds/

wow who could have predicted this

>>22865620
https://areweanticheatyet.com/

>>22865576 (OP)
K but i did some surface level research on some normie tier linux distro, i think it was Mint, and found out its a total pain to run certain games, and impossible to mod most games too. is this still the case?

>>22865613
>NEW WINDOWS BAD
>why?
>IT JUST IS REEEEEEE
Every fucking time with (You) people.

Ever since getting winshit 11 at work, it has only been a straight improvement.

>>22865614
the bad people. surely your not one of those "if you have nothing to hide you have nothing to worry about" people?

>>22865576 (OP)
I switched to Linux Mint last year and have been playing more games on Linux than I did on Windows just due to the ease of installation and for other stuff like FSR, framerate capping and forcing v-sync in games that don't give you the option. Linux is complicated in other areas but vidya is unironically a much more streamlined experience than on Windows now, and with more options overall.

I honestly had trouble making the switch at first but I stuck it out and I'm glad I did. You basically just need to commit to only use Linux for a solid month to force yourself to become familiar with it. Past that point it's like a breath of fresh air compared to Windows where you have no control over anything.

>>22865624
many games run out of the box
many require you to find arcane workarounds hidden in forums or reddit posts, or compile earlier versions to run them
many games, especially multiplayer games with anti-cheat will not run no matter what you do

I'm using windows 7 for music recording, photoshop, pr0n, pirating, and movie watching.
I use OSX for my work as a software dev.
And Linux across all the servers I work in.
They each have their purpose.

Your files won't be safe when quantum computers break the encryption.

>>22865628
i see. i basically only play a couple not so mainstream multiplayer games with friends every weekend so i guess i'll hold off.

>>22865576 (OP)
Linux ran games better than windows 15 years ago. It’s just normies are only discovering this NOW.

>>22865630
And when that happens some angry programmer will make quantum encyption calm down chud.

>>22865625
Delusional, 11 performs worse than 10 in almost every metric while offering nothing in return besides having more jeetware, worse UI and a more locked down system, 10 is already bad in that regard, there are processes you're not allowed to terminate and files you're not allowed to access even if you're an admin, basically forcing the idea that you don't own the product you pay for, which is pure cancer. Never installing shitblows 11, sorry, 12 will be even worse in that regard, no doubt some subscription-based AIDS so you'll have to pay monthly just to use your own computer while only being allowed to access what big brother allows you to, windows folder will be completely hidden unless you're a superuser or some shit, just so you couldn't meddle with the preinstalled rootkits that come with it.

>>22865633
Doesn't matter, the stuff you encrypted before then will be decrypted and read. Only your new stuff will be protected.

>>22865576 (OP)
>Whirlpool
favstian

>>22865634
>inane tech illiterate babble
Yep, it's definitely new windows seethe.
Again, a tale as old as time.

>>22865578
id switch, but i can't afford to
my whole system is tailored for Windows.

plus after the spectre/meltdown fiasco and the leftist infiltration of most of the open source and Linux community, i can't bring myself to trust Linux

>>22865625
>Ever since getting winshit 11 at work
lmao this nigger works in an office

>>22865576 (OP)
only retards like you think that, because you don't understand how software works.

shipping software for linux is hell, linux is a fragmented piece of shit with no respect for backwards compatibility, GNU retards who made the userspace of most linux distros will change the libc or any userspace component without thinking twice, they don't care about breaking your software.

steamOS is welcome, but it's not going to change anything.

>>22865637
>no argument
I accept your concession

>>22865640
That's by design to keep nonfree cucks like (You) at bay sadly. The method to the madness actually works.

>>22865576 (OP)
>runs games faster
not locally, only in the cloud. No real games are available locally on Linux.
>inb4 MUH WINE DOE
memeshit
cheers

>>22865642
yeah, and making important software like photoshop, autocad and other work tools never come to linux, so linux can be the irrelevant piece of garbage that it is in peace.

>>22865576 (OP)
>an OS with bloatware that sends your data back to daddy every five seconds coded by degree mill jeets and women isn't very good
What a huge surprise

Done I need some gay middleware that will also hog resources

>>22865585
But what about botnet
How can I get hardware drivers when the OS isn't supported

>Linux
It's "systemd/GNU"; no one calls Windows "NT" or macOS "Darwin"

>>22865580
>>22865586
>>22865589
https://youtube.com/watch?v=5Qj8p-PEwbI

>>22865576 (OP)
Reminder 100% of computers have backdoors for all governments to access freely. They can update your bios remotely while your PC is powered off and embed persistent mallard across OS installs.
https://www.zdnet.com/article/minix-intels-hidden-in-chip-operating-system/

>>22865576 (OP)
why not RAID a few SSD HD?

>>22865576 (OP)
sad thing is, on the fastest cpus, they run games faster on linux now since windows is a clusterfuck

still using windows since the only reason for me to have this cpu is to play esports

>>22865612
they just straight up take screenshots every 3 seconds in windows 10 to send to the mossad

>>22865576 (OP)
>>>/g/

>>22865651
get a bunch of dead m.2 ssds

buy "Corsair mp700 PRO SE 4TB" which is 14,000 mbp/s ssd on amazon

Return back the dead ssds in the amazon box to get a refund

infinite speed storage for basically free, you can record to it at like 4k 240fps uncompressed

>>22865576 (OP)
Linux is fucking garbage.
I am not reading that wall of text.

I am sick of Linux users and their walls of text. Fuck you.

>>22865653
you know you can just block anything you want incoming and outgoing right? like you can even do it with windows built in firewall.

>>22865576 (OP)
>Retard posts a bunch of garbage spam trying to justify to himself why he’s better off keeping Linux
You’re obsessed with Linux and that’s fine, but not everybody is a Linux obsessed retard OP

(((ars))) cucknica has been 200% comped since Gamergate at least. But I have to agree with them. Linux is superior and has been since at least 2004.

>>22865576 (OP)
Is this the part where we all talk about Linux for two hours?

>>22865657
I have a highly modified version of Windows 10 with ReviOS playbook and I don't think it sends these screenshots

but if it doesn't, I don't really care how much of my gay hentai they screenshot

>>22865659
>Linux
Save your breath. I have already stopped reading.

>>22865657
>trusting windows firewall
Retard
>setting up your own firewall to block all temetry
Firewalls are intended to stop outside access coming in, not the opposite. I'm possible unless you have a list of Microsoft telemetry IPs.

>>22865576 (OP)
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Kr2Bev84S-k

>>22865664
I don’t care

>>22865662
>Save your breath. I have already stopped reading.
Because Windows crashed again, right?
Just wait a little while, its only going to take as long as you have been waiting for your "dad" to come back from getting cigarettes for Windows to reboot.

>>22865627
I don’t care

>>22865612
I don’t care

>>22865668
>>22865669
>>22865665
Don't you have Emus to surrender to, you bogan half-abbo bastard?

>>22865653
I don’t care
>>22865667
I don’t care

>>22865670
I don’t care

Is trannyhub still available on Lenus?

>>22865625
>techretard has an opinion
name 5 improvements

>>22865580
>Unless OEMs like Dell/HP start loading Linux on their prebuilt systems, 99% of people are not going to use it.
wouldnt it lower the price if no MS license needed? Or is MS strong-arming them to prevent that from happening? i.e. 'if you sell any with Linux then you cannot sell any with MS'. I wouldnt put it past them.
Been using LInux Mint ever since MS canned their DVR app MCE, of 6 PCs only one running MS - Win8.1

>>22865674
Don’t you have some coding to go and do?

>>22865576 (OP)
what kind of files you have that you would want to be encrypted

>jew is mad and sliding the thread
>>22865677
What are you favorite fetishes? Can I have the contact info to your parents?

>>22865576 (OP)
>Lenovo's Windows drivers
No fucking wonder you get performance improvement over that shit.

>>22865580
Linux is my life. My primary system is Debian at home. At work I use Linux containers. My router runs on OpenWrt and my phone uses LineageOS.

>>22865576 (OP)
Tranny jannies hate data encryption

>>22865576 (OP)
ok cool

>>22865576 (OP)
Whomst cares

Is it worth it installing linux if you're already using windows? I'm thinking of doing it next time windows kills itself and forces me to reinstall it

>>22866754
yes now DO IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>22865677
Linux users have to encrypt their child porn so the feds can't find it

>>22866754
it depends on what you use your computer for
you can always use proton or a windows virtual machine to run windows shit if you need to

>>22868905
You can always run Linux in a virtual machine to run Linux shit like uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

>>22868911
aaaaaaaaaaaaaa

>>22865642
>That's by design to keep nonfree cucks like (You) at bay sadly. The method to the madness actually works.

This is absolute grade-a cope.
Even Linus Torvalds agrees with the other commenter's post and Torvalds has been saying it for years:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PmHRSeA2c8&t=283s

Linux is great for servers. It will always be niche for desktop due to its inherent problems. I say that as someone who has used Linux as my main driver for 15 years up until recently (Debian, Arch, Fedora, Gentoo, SUSE, Slackware, their derivatives - I know my way around all of them).
You can embrace reality or reject it. The latter becomes masturbatory after a certain point - it's not that you've embraced something better, but rather that you want to believe you're elite and convince others to use what you use so they can see how elite you are as well.
Accept that people will use what will work and that Linux, as great as it is, has fundamental flaws that will not suit it for all use cases.