Thread 22867572

The west isn't dying because of Christianity, it's dying inspite of Christianity, in every sense of the word, in the form of atheism, secularism, politically liberalism.
It's dying because of the aforementioned contrarianism.

>>22867572 (OP)
Imagine your greatest intellectual contribution to the world being "Idk"

>>22867573
You nailed him.

>>22867572 (OP)
The idea that Christianity “built” Europe is pure historical revisionism. Europe existed long before Christianity infected it. The Greeks and Romans had already developed philosophy, architecture, law, and governance centuries before Christcucks arrived to leech off their accomplishments. Christianity didn’t create civilization—it hijacked it. When Rome fell, it wasn’t Christianity that saved Europe; it was Christianity that plunged it into the Dark Ages, where scientific progress stalled, intellectual curiosity was suppressed, and religious dogma replaced reason. The Renaissance—the actual rebirth of European civilization—only happened when Europe rediscovered its pre-Christian roots and broke free from the stranglehold of the Church.

Even in the so-called Christian era, the greatest European advancements weren’t because of Christianity, but in spite of it. The Scientific Revolution, the Enlightenment, and the Industrial Age all came from challenging Christian authority, not embracing it. Every time Europe moved forward, it was because men rejected blind faith, superstition, and submission—the very things Christianity demands. If anything, Christianity held Europe back, forcing progress to fight against it every step of the way. The only thing Christianity built was an empire of control, censorship, and forced obedience—and Europe only truly thrived when it started tearing that empire down.

>>22867572 (OP)
Damn good point. But I'm STILL not gonna worship Jewsus.

>>22867575
>The idea that Christianity “built” Europe is pure historical revisionism.
Because Christians are Marxists.

>>22867575
Cope against the pattern.

Female pubic hair is the only thing that protects countries from wokism.

Pubic hair protects women from bacteria, viruses and parasites.

When the fashion for pubic hair removal began in America in the 90s, wokism began to enter, now that hair removal is the norm, wokism has invaded the west. In China and rusia, pubic hair is the norm and there is no wokism. In Japan the trend of removing pubic hair is just beginning but 80% still leave pubic hair so they still have some protection.

>Muh radical feminist doesn't shave
Radical feminist aren't like 0,1% of women, most women that vote woke parties shave.

Pubic hair = fertility, tradition, large families

Shaved = globalism, childfree, woke.

Go to any woke porn page and you will see they promote shaving..

>>22867580
Just wait until you find out about global warming and pirates...

>>22867572 (OP)
>>22867574
I have never seen a Christian fight off a bully, I never seen a Christian stop brownoid fucks from plagueing the country, I have never seen a Christian be against Israel or jews

I have seen Chrstians:
>kiss nigger feet
>give money to Israel
>apologize to people who killed their family members

>>22867578
You're right. Still not gonna worship Jewsus though.

>>22867578
follow your nigger worshiping leader

Ah! What a comforting delusion—to imagine that the sickness came from disobedience, and not from the very thing once worshipped as the cure. You would blame the fever on the medicine refused, rather than on the slow poison long imbibed. But tell me, what is atheism if not the ghost of your god? What is liberalism but the political translation of Christian pity, of your meekness dressed in new slogans?

You say the West is dying in spite of Christianity? No! It dies from it—from its morality, which taught man to turn his instincts inward, to call his strength "sin" and his questioning "pride." Christianity broke the noble, the commanding, the strong—it tamed them, bled them with guilt, and called the bleeding salvation.

And now, when the altar is abandoned and the cross worn as ornament, you imagine the spell is broken. No—only the names have changed. You call it "human rights," "equality," "compassion"—but I hear the same old slave-morality groaning beneath.

You mourn the death of the body, but never saw the soul had long since been castrated. Contrarianism? Ha! You call it rebellion, but it is merely the final consequence of a world that was taught to kneel.

>>22867572 (OP)
>It's dying because of the aforementioned contrarianism
The west isn't dying. It's changing in a way you don't like. That's all.

>>22867585
Wow, this really nailed it

>>22867575
This argument is emotionally charged but historically inaccurate and philosophically shallow.

Yes, Europe existed before Christianity, but not as the Europe we know. Pagan Rome and Greece had philosophy, law, and architecture, true. But they also had slavery, infanticide, pederasty, brutal spectacles, and no concept of inherent human dignity. Christianity didn’t “hijack” civilization, it transformed it.
The fall of Rome wasn’t caused by Christianity, but by internal decay and invasions. It was Christian monks who preserved classical knowledge in monasteries, copying texts, founding schools, and stabilizing communities. Far from causing the "Dark Ages," Christianity was the light within them. The idea of universal education, hospitals, and universities all emerged from the Church.

The Renaissance wasn’t a rejection of Christianity but a revival within a Christian worldview. Thinkers like Dante, Erasmus, and Michelangelo were deeply Christian. The so-called Enlightenment often built on Christian moral foundations, even when questioning Church authority. The scientific method was birthed by Christian men who believed in a rational, ordered creation by a divine Lawgiver.
Yes, abuses happened within institutional religion. But that’s not Christianity, that’s corrupt men using it. Christianity isn’t blind faith; it calls for truth, reason, and justice. The dignity of the individual, the rule of law, the idea of progress, all rest on Christian soil.

When Europe turns from Christ, it builds homosexual agendas, anti-White humanism, chaos, communism, atheism, consumerism, a world without roots, without stability, worshipping mammon, ruled by antichrist Judaism. When it follows Him, it builds cathedrals, hospitals, and law protecting the weak. Europe without Christ isn’t enlightened, it’s lost.

>>22867588
>But they also had slavery, infanticide, pederasty, brutal spectacles, and no concept of inherent human dignity. Christianity didn’t “hijack” civilization, it transformed it.
Uh your God also permitted these things

>>22867589
>inb4 "N-no, god never permitted that! We stopped slavery, actually!"

>>22867573
Imagine being such a pea brain that you need ANY shit thrown at you like an imaginary friend/sky dad to validate your existence or else you can't cope with your life or being a moral/good person.

I can fathom that we don't have all the answers to what this reality is and everything is unexplainable until proven, you stick to the first shit you were told.

>>22867573
>"The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing."

>>22867585
You have my sword.
My liege...

>>22867585
Christianity did not castrate the soul; it civilized the beast. It did not kill nobility; it redefined it, not as domination over others, but as mastery over the self. The Roman virtue of power was admired in Caesar; Christian virtue admired the man who bore the cross. That is not weakness; that is moral revolution.

Atheism and liberalism are not Christianity’s children but its orphans, severed from the source of their dignity. You are right that "human rights," "equality," and "compassion" can echo the Christian conscience. But remove Christ, and these words become hollow slogans. The 20th century proved it. The rejection of Christian morality birthed regimes that deified the will to power; Stalin, Mao, no pity there, no meekness; just millions of graves.

Christianity does not fear strength. It teaches that true strength serves, protects, and restrains. What you call “slave-morality” is simply the truth that man is not God. Pride was never power; it was the first sin, the original lie. You can crown it with poetry, but it still ends in death.

The West is not dying because of Christianity; it is dying because it abandoned it. The house stands for a while on its foundation, but once you sever the roots, rot sets in. You think we are waking from a spell. No, we are dying from the loss of the very thing that gave us soul.

>>22867590
Both are true. Slavery cannot really be stopped, so God works signals that He hears you and still tells you how to Worship in such situations, He isn't gonna intervene in every single act of evil.

>>22867586
Brown hands typed this

>>22867595
You're right, god isn't powerful enough to stop slavery.

>>22867594
Christianity is a slave religion that has been adopted by the elites for 2000 years to keep the peasants in line.

>>22867594
Bullshit, civilisation is not a gift of the christian nations you retard.

>>22867598
He has trouble with iron chariots, too, for some reason.

>>22867588
> It was Christian monks who preserved classical knowledge in monasteries, copying texts, founding schools, and stabilizing communities
You're one small lying nigger and you know that.

>>22867589
>>22867599
The Bible records slavery, polygamy, and other harsh realities, but that doesn’t mean God endorsed them as ideals. Scripture shows God working within broken human systems to slowly elevate, restrain, and redeem, not through instant utopia, but through moral transformation.

For example, biblical slavery was radically different from Greco-Roman or colonial slavery. In ancient Israel, it was often a form of debt service, time-limited (Exodus 21), and protected by law. Kidnapping for slavery was punishable by death (Exodus 21:16). Foreign slaves could find protection and even join Israel (Deuteronomy 23:15-16). The trajectory pointed toward freedom and dignity.
Infanticide, by contrast, was never condoned. The God of the Bible explicitly condemned child sacrifice (Leviticus 18:21) and called children blessings. Where pagan cultures threw infants to the flames or into the wilderness, Christians rescued them, especially in the Roman Empire.

Pederasty? Absolutely condemned. Unlike the Greeks and Romans who normalized it, biblical law calls such practices abomination (Leviticus 18:22; Romans 1:26-27). Christ elevated sexuality to a sacred union between man and woman, bound by covenant.
Christianity didn’t ignore sin, it exposed it. Christ didn’t approve of man’s cruelty; He died to conquer it. The fact that God tolerated man’s hardness of heart (Matthew 19:8) doesn’t mean He approved of it. Like a doctor dealing with disease, God works patiently through history to heal, not to instantly erase.

So no, God didn’t “permit” evil in the sense of endorsing it, He bore with fallen man to bring him step by step into light. That’s not moral compromise. That’s grace and long-suffering justice.

>>22867594
>Christianity did not castrate the soul; it civilized the beast
No it didn't. Men took advantage of people who couldn't read and didn't have access to the bible. It imprisoned people in bogus rituals and black mail. But that changed with the printing press

>>22867595
>Slavery cannot really be stopped
So much for your omnipotent God

>>22867597
I'm Whiter than you

>>22867603
>The Bible records slavery, polygamy, and other harsh realities, but that doesn’t mean God endorsed them as ideals
He sure did.

>>22867588
>It was Christian monks who preserved classical knowledge
Christniggers scraped the ink off of ancient manuscripts so that they could use the parchment for their gay little poems about jesus

>The idea of universal education, hospitals, and universities all emerged from the Church.
Plato founded the Academy. Christniggers burned the library at Alexandria.

>When Europe turns from Christ, it builds
Hitler

Furthermore, you're a turkroach invader and the only reason you're here is because Europe is still infected with the jesus bug. Once we don the swastika again, your brown ass is OUTTA HERE

>>22867572 (OP)
its dying because the internet has been weaponized to destroy it

>>22867572 (OP)
>Christians import unlimited shitskins
>WE'RE NOT THE PROBLEM THOUGH
Fuck off

>>22867603
>God wrote a very sternly-worded letter to the editor expressing his disapproval.

>>22867594
>Christianity did not castrate the soul; it civilized the beast
>you are nothing but a savage beast rolling in your own shit without the jew god!
Christcucks always end up revealing how they have a jewish hatred of White history and culturem

>>22867575
The Renaissance led to anthropocentrism and anti-theism which had absolutely nothing to do with Greco-Roman culture, not sure what they read and understood.

>>22867602
Actually, this is well-documented history.
After the fall of the Western Roman Empire, Christian monasteries, especially Benedictine, became centers of learning and preservation. Monks meticulously copied classical texts, including works by Plato, Aristotle, Cicero, and others.

Historians like Christopher Dawson and Thomas Cahill have shown how monastic communities preserved not just religious writings, but also Greek and Roman literature, philosophy, and science, keeping the intellectual heritage of antiquity alive through turbulent centuries.

This is not myth, it is fact.

>>22867572 (OP)
Yeah that explains why South Korea, one of the most Christian countries on the planet, has a replacement rate of 0.6. Antinatalism started out in many protestant cults for fear of "enjoying sex" and "invoking God's wrath" as part of conception.

>>22867614
>Christian monasteries, especially Benedictine, became centers of learning and preservation
Not really. It further kept people in the dark

>>22867615
Christianity is very feminist and pro-female empowerment even though they larp as being traditional. They literally worship a jewish woman (Mary) who cheated on her husband and lied and claimed that god inseminated her. Thats peak feminism right there.

>>22867573
Better to be humble enough to admit you don't know than to confidently and falsely assert that the minor canaanite storm deity yahweh is your master.

>>22867588
>>22867594
You argue like ChatGpt you better be a real person.

>>22867614
Faggot, you're lying.
You "people" are iconoclasts and liars.
CAPTCHA M0YSH
Moishe.

>>22867615
Poland and Malta have Japan tier birthrates in spite of their based tradcath majorities.

>>22867619
Thats the Turkroach. He copy/pastes and will sometimes argue back, but he doesnt reply directly to people much anymore because hes a faggot that has no arguement other than "White people are the real jews".

>>22867616
Most people didn't really care about higher education even if it was available, it's documented by chroniclers, they could find scribes but not poets, they had gangbangers but not loyal soldiers, they had labourers but not too many craftsmen and so on.

Just like today where people can learn about anything for free and yet choose to melt their brains on tiktok.

>>22867614
> Monks meticulously copied classical texts
ZERO progress in mathematics was made by Europeans from the collapse of Rome until the late 1400s. We had to patiently wait almost 1000 years for Italy to invent civilization again because Christniggers were busy praying to Jesus like retards. The only thing produced by monasteries was worthless Christian philosophy which does nothing to explain how the natural world works.

>>22867623
You're not wrong. It's poetic really. Then all knowledge and books were kept under lock and key and the people just didn't know. Now information is abundant and instant and yet people choose to keep themselves in the dark


Maybe one day we'll find the Goldie Locks time where everything is just right

>>22867624
> 242
Monks, who would otherwise be the intellectual elite were sequestered, spent their whole life indulging in semitics, and ultimately produced no children.
Thank you, jews.
Dumbing down goyim since time immemorial.

>>22867572 (OP)
Remember when Andrew Wilson made this little faggot cry and rage quit a debate?

Christianity is just Judaism 2.0

>>22867572 (OP)
the west is not dying, the kikes are trying to destroy it for the millionth time. this happened a lot of times in the past. we were able to overcome the kikery and get out shit together. we will do it again.
we all know how will this end, right? i hope, this time, the genocide is real, instead of kicking them somewhere else for the millionth time.

>>22867626
>Monks, who would otherwise be the intellectual elite were sequestered, spent their whole life indulging in semitics, and ultimately produced no children.
i always thought that monasteries were where medieval people put their spergy incels.

>>22867627
I enjoy Andrew a lot and I'm an atheist

>>22867588
it's so obvious that the problem is atheism and rejection of christianity. these retards are either jeets shilling because they are being paid by kikes, or plain ignorant faggots.

>>22867572 (OP)
>Religion that actively wants to bring about the end of days accuses others of bringing the end of days

>>22867631
You don't need to be religious to enjoy a guy who repeatedly tells the most degenerate whiny shitbags on the planet to get fucked.

>>22867602
It's the truth. The embers of rome's glory long smouldered in the church while they labored tirelessly to stoke the fire.

>>22867572 (OP)
Christianity is all about loving jews above anything else including Jesus, so it's no wonder the masses find it totally disgusting.

>>22867630
> spergy incels
On a second thought, being a monk sounds quite nice.

my second son
it is the time
will you become a monk shitposting in Latin
or will you unnecessarily drain my inheritance

>>22867610
the kikes are doing that. specifically, the israeli kikes.
all of the organizations fucking up the world are lead by kikes.

>>22867634
Agreed

>>22867582
>I have seen Chrstians:
>>kiss nigger feet
>>give money to Israel
>>apologize to people who killed their family members
this.

>>22867635
> The embers of rome's glory long smouldered in the church
t. Shakespear(e)

>>22867594
Is kissing niggers feet civilization? If so then I don't want it

>>22867572 (OP)
It's dying because christian men are weak pacifist faggots.

>>22867625
anon, just accept it: most of the world population is retarded and want to remain retarded.
christian monks were the only people who knew how to read or write. they tried to teach both the population and nobility, YET THEY FUCKING REFUSED FOR CENTURIES.
people just want to be animals. smart humans are like 2% of the world population.
this planet sucks and i understand more and more why the elites plan to obliterate most of the world's population.

>>22867642
The Roman Catholic Church is the whore of Babylon.

>>22867638
>the kikes are doing that. specifically, the israeli kikes.
Yes, but the Christians are cheering them on.
Pretending that modern Christianity is totally disgusting doesn't even help Christians.
The biggest sin in Christianity is antisemitism followed by racism, while child fuckers and murders are redeemable.

>>22867633
Yeah, I was about to comment on that, we are in the end-times and these are merely symptoms, inevitable.

>>22867647
>love your enemy goy
>open your borders goy
>give your money to Israel goy
>... time passes....
>"oh no its the end times, how did this happen? see? our religion was true!!!"

>>22867647
>Yeah, I was about to comment on that, we are in the end-times and these are merely symptoms, inevitable.
you niggers always say that we're in the end times
and you're always wrong

>>22867575
Ok ChatJewPT

>Dark Ages, where scientific progress stalled, intellectual curiosity was suppressed, and religious dogma replaced reason.
European civilization, even in the middle ages, always valued reason.

>the actual rebirth of European civilization
The rebirth of European civilisation, after the fall of the Western Roman Empire, was well on its way by the 11th century.
Just look at the monastic complex of Cluny Abbey. Putting aside the architecture, the monks and that lived there such as Peter Abelard always valued reason.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3I9E9yqTx1I

>>22867575
Having chatGPT running on your browser is like having a Jew in your living room

>>22867642
>not true Scotsman
Ahh, good one
What denomination is true then?

>>22867630
monks were basically locked in monasteries for being way too smart. most of them were highly gifted. they were dedicated into the preservation of knowledge. it's thanks to them why we have so much information about the past today. it would've been lost any other way, because the vast majority of the population were nothing but savage animals.

>>22867652
meant for >>22867645

>>22867624
While progress was slower than in modern times, Europe made steady advances in math and science throughout the so-called “dark ages.” After Rome fell, Christian scholars didn’t stop thinking, they preserved and developed knowledge. Monks copied key Greek and Roman texts, including works by Euclid and Ptolemy. Boethius (6th century) passed on ancient arithmetic. The Venerable Bede (8th century) worked on calendar calculations. Gerbert of Aurillac (10th century) reintroduced the abacus and early forms of "Arabic" numerals. By the 12th century, European translators in Spain and Sicily were reintroducing classical mathematical works, which sparked real growth. Fibonacci’s Liber Abaci (1202) brought modern numerals and practical problem-solving into Europe. In Oxford and Paris, scholars were already applying math to physics before the Renaissance, centuries ahead of Galileo.

The idea that monasteries only produced “worthless philosophy” ignores that the very universities that later fueled the Renaissance and scientific revolution grew out of cathedral schools, founded and staffed by Christians.
Europe didn’t sit idle for 1000 years. It laid the groundwork, quietly and faithfully, for the explosion of knowledge that followed the Reformation. Without those Christian scholars, the Renaissance wouldn’t have had anything to rediscover.

>>22867620
>>22867622
What would I reply to you people? You are just endlessly mad at anything Christian. The whole of Europe is fundamentally Christian if you haven't noticed. There is nothing anyone can say to you guys, you are just anti-Christian no matter what. So there is mostly no point. Ok, I get it, you hate Christ and you want a Roman Empire with a pagan Roman Caesar and hail this mortal man.
I'm not the "All I have" anon btw, not every German flag is that one person.

>>22867619
Yeah, I'm thinking those
>>22867585
>>22867575
are ChatGPT, but you guys have no problem with them I suppose?

>>22867575
>chatGPT response
Summerfag

>>22867577
>Involuntary anti-theistic system
>Christianity

>>22867607

>>22867572 (OP)
Why didn't you jjust say jews? Jews hate Christianity and Jesus and wormed their way into entertainment where they encouraged and celebrated degeneracy. They larped as "intellectual" science influencers mocking religion while barely giving a fuck about science itself. Many of those of the current generation got invited to the Epstein island as a private jewish reward. Everything they do eventually resolves into an attack vector on Christianity but you're still trotting out the old "atheist" "political liberal" talking points my dad used to spout. You can just say jews. Your refusal to engage with a more accurate appraisal when you're in safe territory is very telling.

>>22867572 (OP)
>do every single fucking thing in your power to help and defend your jewish god's chosen jewish people
>oy vey we aren't the problem goyim
You may not be the only problem, but you sure as fuck are a big part of it.

>>22867628
Nah, that's islam. Christianity is more a fusion of judaic spirituality and greek philosophy.

>>22867582
>I have never seen
You should lurk moar

>>22867646
if they're not catholic, they are not christians, but actual heretics.
non catholics are basically kike-cultists.
they are a cult of traitors who want to destroy everything our CHRISTIAN ancestors created.

paganism only destroys civilizations. this is the reason why normal people adopted christianity: it's the only religion that gives rights to the poor and working class. any other religion is elitist and promotes slavery.

have you ever read the bible? it says that the rich are going to hell. only the poor go to heaven.

kikes can't stand that so they search for all the heretics and traitors from all around the world to get help into destroying the world itself. because they think some random demon will help them to be the owners of this world, with everyone else as their slaves.

of course, the kikes are nothing but psychos with severe schizophrenia.

>>22867645
that's heresy, dude. you're working for the enemy. they will destroy you, too.

>>22867647
2 more millennium, trust the plan.

>>22867603
Wulfila was a filthy racetraitor

>>22867572 (OP)
>you have to believe that God sacrificed himself to himself to save humanity from the eternal torment that he created in order to save the progress of hundreds of years of cultural and scientific breakthroughs. No, it wasn't the scientific and cultural breakthroughs themselves that did it it's the belief in a sky daddy

>>22867650
you're talking to a shilling jeet, bro.

these people hate reason, civilization and intelligence. they are psychopaths and need chaos to live. that's how their brains work.

>>22867661
>Dad loves me more!
>Nuh uh, he loves me more!

>>22867647
>we are in the end-times
People have been saying this for millenia

>>22867653
> It's thanks to them why we have so much information about the past today
oh look
a wild faggot appeared

>>22867655
> What would I reply to you people?
Have you considered ending yourself?

>>22867656
>I never read the bible
I know

>>22867661
Tbh I've been understanding this more and more. Not currently catholic, but as I look through history at what people serve, it's clear that we must choose between God, money, or country. I see all these split branches of churches as nations trying to claim the power of the church for the desire of their individual states and not to please God. It seems to me that catholics are the ones most interested in properly honoring God's word.

>>22867614
>well documented
You mean a bunch of jew worshippping retards schizobabbled made up shit in books while keeping the rest of us locked in a nearly 1500 year dark age.

Fuck you, fuck all abrahamists, every last one of you lying, jew worshippiing fucks should be thrown in a mass grave along with your jewish masters and muslim cousins. TOTAL. ABRAHAMIST. DEATH.

>>22867572 (OP)
This guy fucks trannies and thinks men can be women.

Its dying because of late stage capatalism

>>22867661
The jews want you to be catholic. It's a brownoid religion that serves brownoid and jewish interests and was very effective at hampering the WASP establishment which was the only thing for decades that prevented total jewish control over institutions.

>>22867644
>n-n-no you dont understand goyim they TRIED to teach you were just too stupid and barbaric to understand anything other than the jewbook schizobabble they exclusively talked and wrote about

Fuck you, you lying jew worshipping cunt.

>>22867674
> money won over a jewish religion
oh no

>>22867572 (OP)
No, it is dying because you of capitalism.

>>22867668
See, there is no discussion with you people, you are just all mad and full of spite. That is because you are antichristian imho. You are in the spirit of antichrist, which is a very unclean spirit outside of the Holy Spirit. But what do I know, right? I'm Christian and therefore I am wrong in your mind.

>hurr christcuck christcuck kys hurrr
Your behavior sometimes reminds of the behavior of demons as they are described in the Bible. They too are just endlessly mad and irrational.

>>22867672
See >>22867679

>>22867657
dude, you're arguing with a kike/jeet. just don't bother. they've opened many threads today lying about history. kikes are scared that more and more people know the truth: that they have tried to destroy the world many times and we aren't going to allow it.

TOTAL KIKE DEATH.

>>22867679
You are worshipping a "god" who is explicitly antieuropean.
You're a race traitor. Yes, even Turks could be race traitors.
Your existence is actively damaging European interests.
There is nothing good you can do, ontologically.
Kill yourself.

>>22867661
>no you dont understand my flavour of jewish cum guzzling is the right flavour and yours is wrong

Classic christcuck cope, when confronted with your universal retardation you start babbling about other jew worship sects and arguing in circles like dumber jews.

>the bible says the poor go to heaven and the rich don't
The fuck it does, the bible, and jesus himself says that salvation is only for the jews.

>>22867644
I agree with your statement here
>understand more and more why the elites plan to obliterate most of the world's population.

I remember reading revelations as a child and thinking how horrific it was with the culling, the whole only 150,000 are the only ones who really make it

But looking at the state of the world and people's refusal to learn anything and everything, it becomes more and more obvious WHY such a thing wouldn't be necessarily wrong in context, most people are just animals living inside their own trappings and desires and the population percentages that took the jab with just a little arm twist is proof that the eugenistists have proven their point.

>>22867668
it's the truth and it hurts you, kike.
soon, you won't exist anymore.
TOTAL KIKE DEATH.

>>22867657
>They larped as "intellectual" science influencers mocking religion
Sigmend Freud, extremely jewish, invented the fake "science" of psychology thinking that he could convince people that "science" would solve the human soul and that we don't need God, just trust in our God of Science.

>>22867685
> if you don't worship jewish god you're a kike
TKD indeed

>>22867665
>strawmanning and coping about jeets when you can't argue with what they said
So... You're admitting jeets are smarter than christians?
>>22867679
There's nothing to discuss, you worship a jewish god, and pray to a dead jewish rabbi who knocked up his own mom so he could die for the sins of the people he exclusively preached to. THE. FUCKING. JEWS.

>>22867573
yeah, the proper way of going about it is to speak authoritatively and with certainty about the things which one does not know.

>>22867681
>they've opened many threads today lying about history.
I never understood this about these kinds of threads, why do they do this so much?
Don't they get this completely destroys their credibility with lurkers?
Why do they have to lie to give their claims false merit, especially when a single search online exposes it easily, but they have been at this since orange heads first election and I honestly only lurk these threads nowadays just to see which side loses it's cool first

>>22867685
>babbling about strawmen
>if you don't join my jew worshipping death cult you're a jew
Nigger you literally worship a dead jewish rabbi who called non-jews lower than dogs and refused to preach to them.

You are astoundingly retarded.

>>22867685
>TOTAL KIKE DEATH.
You're a messianic kike though.

>>22867572 (OP)
Jesus has
-- 2 contradictory genealogies filled with errors
-- 2 different birth stories that don't mesh together logically or thematically
-- 2 different baptism stories with contradictory details
-- 2 different crucifixion stories with totally different timelines
-- 2 different resurrection stories, broadly speaking, although the specific details are wildly different in all 4 accounts

It's just ridiculous.

The old testament has less overlapping scripture so it's harder to find blatant contradictions. But it's filled with so much ridiculous mythology.
-- Talking animals
-- dragons and unicorns, magical things
-- a flat earth
-- the global flood that never happened
-- bloody sacrifice rituals
-- extremely brutal and psychotic bronze age laws
-- Jacob bear-wrestles god in a 1v1 cage match for the name "israel"
-- God "hardens pharaohs heart" against letting the jews go, then as punishment, kills the pharaohs child and all the other children too
-- God makes contracts with the jews for earthly power, in exchange for their soul. Sounding pretty satanic.
-- God is also obsessed with children's foreskins

It's a madhouse. There is no wisdom to be gained from any of these stories. You're training yourself to believe lies.

A true holy book would teach you...
>how to reason and think through things
>how to form a government that isn't a sacrificial theocracy
>how to comport yourself in social situations
>the proper shape of the earth, our place in the universe, maybe some basic astronomy or geology
>some clues about a particular black liquid lying under the ground. It could be all vague and stuff
There's so much that SHOULD be there, that isn't there. Instead we get pages and pages of endless genealogies or goat-sacrifice rituals, it's insanity.

>>22867572 (OP)
It is dying due to christian gynocentrism devloped from the principle of christianity that commands the reverence of all weakness and of everything oppressed, and preaches internal and worldly passivity, hence no attachment to any wordly nobility or dignity nor to any which does not follow its spirit, no zeal for the preservation or production of such. Gradually society rots. Any noble institution which is sacred to the soul demands preservation to the end regardless of moral concerns.

>>22867691
>You are astoundingly retarded
Um, about that..

"Esau-Edom is modern Jewry."
1925 Jewish Encyclopedia, Vol. 5 page 41.

“Edomite Jews began to call themselves Hebrews and Israelites in 1860."
Encyclopedia Judaica 1971 Vol. 10:23

“Strictly speaking, it is incorrect to call an ancient Israelite a "Jew" or to call a contemporary Jew an Israelite or Hebrew." Jewish Almanac 1980, p. 3.

One of the greatest deceptions of modern history is Jews purporting to be biblical Hebrews or Yahudaye. Edom’s religion was practiced throughout the Caanan region, which worshipped deities such as El, Baal and Asherah. This religion was characterised by practices such as human sacrifice, cannibalism. Indeed, the root of the word ”cannibal” is a conjunction of the words “Canaanite” and “Baal”.

An example of the behaviour of the Edomite Jews is to be found in Dio's Rome, Volume 5, Book 68 at Paragraph 32: “ "Meanwhile the Jews in the region of Cyrene… were destroying both the Romans and the Greeks. They would cook their flesh, make belts for themselves of their entrails, anoint themselves with their blood, and wear their skins for clothing. Many they sawed in two, from the head downwards. Others they would give to wild beasts and force still others to fight as gladiators. In all, consequently, two hundred and twenty thousand perished. In Egypt, also, they performed many similar deeds, and in Cyprus under the leadership of Artemio. There, likewise, two hundred and forty thousand perished.” The Jewish Encyclopedia confirms generally the accuracy of Dio’s account at p. 608.

>>22867695
Encyclopedia Americana (1985):

"Khazar, an ancient Turkic‑speaking people who ruled a large and powerful state in the steppes North of the Caucasus Mountains from the 7th century to their demise in the mid‑11th century A.D...In the 8th Century it's political and religious head...as well as the greater part of the Khazar nobility, abandoned paganism and converted to Judaism...(The Khazars are believed to be the ancestors of most Russian and Eastern European Jews)."

“Jews began to call themselves Hebrews and Israelites in 1860 — (Encyclopedia Judaica 1971 Vol 10:23)
>Under the heading of “A brief History of the Terms for Jew” in the 1980 Jewish Almanac is the following: “Strictly speaking it is incorrect to call an Ancient Israelite a ‘Jew’ or to call a contemporary Jew an Israelite or a Hebrew.” — (1980 Jewish Almanac, p. 3)
>The Jewish religion is from the Pharisees. The Talmud is the most important member of that literature. — (Universal Jewish Encyclopedia, Volume 8, page 474)
>“No one can deny that the Jews are a most unique and unusual people. That uniqueness exists because of their Edomite heritage. You cannot be English Jews. We are a race, and only as a race can we perpetuate. Our mentality is of Edomitish character, and differs from that of an Englishman. Enough subterfuges! Let us assert openly that we are International Jews.”
— (Manifesto of the “World Jewish Federation,” January 1, 1935, through its spokesperson, Gerald Soman)
https://archive.is/XFH29

> You are astoundingly retarded.
I always knew that arguing with retards is top areté.
That's why I'm here.
(((I am very intelligent)))
Ignore the echoes, I'm in a fucking well.

>>22867695
I love seeing you retards post this shit kek.
Misuse of The Jewish Almanac 1980

"Strictly speaking, it is incorrect to call an ancient Israelite a "Jew" or to call a contemporary Jew an "Israelite" or a "Hebrew."

The point of this chapter titled "Identity Crisis" is to do a deep dive on the complex history of these words and their changing meaning over time. By only including the first sentence, this quote is attempting to present this as an admission of stolen identity, but upon further reading it becomes clear it is going over the complex etymology of these word's meanings. The chapter lays out some distinctions:

Hebrew:
"Hebrew" came to be the designation of the language of the Bible, and so in general for the postbiblical Hebrew language. The Hebrew language had begun as a north-west Semitic dialect, influenced by the immigration of Aramaic-speaking ancestors of the Jewish people. It is as a term for the classic and universal Jewish language that "Hebrew" is most Jewish[...]Because of the occasional biblical references to Israelites as "Hebrews," the term became a normal alternative for "Jew" throughout the Middle Ages and in modern times. It has occasionally been preferred by Jews themselves as a euphemistic term for "Jew,"

Israelite
Jews are principally called "Israelites" in the Bible [bene Yisraei, "children of Israel") because of their descent from Jacob who, at a major turning point in his career, was re-named by God Yisraei ("He who fights God")[..] Israelite," like "Hebrew," became a common synonym for "Jew" throughout post-biblical history down to modern times, with perhaps less adaptability to pejorative usage than the other terms.

>>22867698
Jew:
The term "Jew" is originally derived from the tribal name "Judah," the name of the fourth son of Jacob. Judahites, that is, descendants of Judah, were organized (along with some neighboring tribes) by their kins-man King David into a mini-kingdom centered in Hebron before David became the first truly pan-Israelite monarch[...]The exile of Judah came in 586 BCE, when large numbers of the inhabitants were deported to Babylon. From then on, "Judean" came to be the principle term for a follower of the Mosaic religion, and it has remained so to the present day. In the book of Esther, set in Persia, the Benjaminite Mordecai (technically a member of the "Ten Lost Tribes") is called "yehudi," Judean or Jew;

>inb4Nuh Uhh
https://www.adl.org/resources/backgrounder/christian-identity
Kikes hate the truth
The idea that the chosen could be the ones who brought about the Renaissance, the enlightenment, the industrial revolution and high trust civilizations.
Oy vey

>>22867695
>no you see the jews aren't the jews because of this schizobabble cope from yet another book written by jews

They believe in the same god, they perform the same rituals, rites, and sacrifices, they follow the same jewish holy books, they behave the same way as biblical jews, they engsge in the same ethnic mafia behaviours, they have been doing this for 2000 fucking years using stolen genes, and genes forced on them through centuries of rape and prostitution.

THEY. ARE. JEWS. You're a jew too, aren't you yoy slimy, lying little rat fuck.

>>22867700
>didn't even read the page
This only applies to 25-50k christians. Christkike idenity is a denomination, like catholicism. Christkike identity's primary theory is that non-Whites were created by Eve cucking Adam with satan disguised as a nigger, then Adam was stuck raising her mixed race child. You're a cuck.

>>22867691
You practice the Talmud which teaches Jews to hate Jesus.
Hating Jesus is very Jewish so its always hilarious when people call others kikes (which means anti Christian jew) yet they act more like jews than anyone else.

So you can larp all you want but you are by far the biggest kike here and you definitely take it up the ass because only jewish sodomites have this level of hatred for Jesus

> inb4 oy vey
https://www.adl.org/resources/hate-symbol/wolfsangel
Kikes hate the truth
The idea that the chosen could be the ones who brought about the Renaissance, the enlightenment, the industrial revolution and high trust civilizations.
Nuh uhh

>>22867574
>>22867573
stop replying to yourself

>>22867700
>NOOOO WE WUZ DA REAL JOOS N SHEEIT CUH ON GOD FR FR DOE
Oh boy, he's doubling down on proving christians are just pale niggers.

>>22867572 (OP)
Liberalism is the result of christianity, though.

>>22867701
>NOOOOO NOOO THEY LIE ABOUT EVERYTHING ELSE NOW BUT THEY SURELY WERENT LYING ABOUT BEING THE REAL JEWS EVEN THOUGH THEIR OWN BOOKS CLAIMS OTHERWISE EVERYWHERE EXCEPT POST 90S THOSE BOOMER JEWS WERE LYING THEY ARE THE TRUE ISRAELITES OYYYYYYY VEEEEEEEEYYYYYYYYYYYY

>>22867572 (OP)
atheism is the final form of christianity

>>22867708
>THE REAL JEWS
Yeah dude nobody but you and kikes want to be "real" jews. Israelites were pedophile genocidal foreskin stealing kikes who should've been gassed.

>>22867703
>he's still babbling about strawmen because I won't worship a jewish god or pray to a dead jewish rabbi that had open disdain towards non jews.

Holy shit the coping is off the charts LMAO

>>22867711
Your butthole is destroyed, isn't it? Tsk tsk

>>22867712
Okay, buddy.
Time to drop your memeflag.

It's so hilarious in these thread wherein I post a link to jewish talking points at the adl and the strangest thing happens where suddenly one side ITT comes to the ADLs defense on this.
It's a perfect filter
Imagine getting personally defensive over ADL talking points, and still acting like you can blend in here

>>22867572 (OP)
100% all these athiests are tranny lovers

>>22867666
god is not a person. it's logos. is the reason and civilization. the abscence of greed, sloth, envy, gluttony, pride and anger, which are the embodiment of evil/demons (daemons, in ancient greek).

if you've ever read the original bible, directly translated from ancient greek (it's original language), you would know it's hellenic thought. it's all a metaphor that summarizes ancient green philosophy for the masses with low IQ.

christianity and the concept of god comes from the ancient greek philosophy. the 10 commandments are a summary of plato's and aristotle's ethics.

i had to study two of the most famous theologists of christianity in high school, since they were from my country: agustin de hipona and tomas de aquino. their main sources were plato and aristotles. they confirmed these as the base of christianity.

most "christians" from today are nothing but heretic cultists who work for the kikes. there's nothing christian in them. they don't even understand the religion. they lack of the hellenic thought that is neccessary to get it. they lack of spirit. they're nothing but animals, driven by desire. just like the freaking kikes.

TOTAL KIKE DEATH.

>>22867713
That won't make you or him any less jewish. The fact remains hating Jesus is what kikes do, and no amount of cope any of you do will change the fact that Jesus haters are practicing the Talmud

>>22867708
>NOOO YOU DONT UNDERSTAND WE WUZ DA REAL JEWS EVEN THOUGH I JUST TRIED TO TELL YOU WE HATE THE JEWS BECAUSE OF THEIR EVIL WAYS
yeah you're not fooling anyone with two or more braincells to rub together rabbi, so which one is it, are christcucks the real jews? or are christcucks against jews even though their holy book AND church explicitly forbid it?

By the way, I appreciate you proving my point by lashing out like a called out jew.

>>22867714
Imagine wanting to be an ancient Levantine kike pedophile who cuts the foreskins off of corpses. Only two groups want to do this.
>kikes
>25k christkikes or .00001% of christendumb
Nice company you're keeping, wannabe kike.

>>22867718
Why do kikes who practice the Talmud like you try so hard to larp as antisemites?

>>22867572 (OP)
The West is dying because we turned away from God in favour of the state and secular institutions. We've seen now that our leaders need to be kept in check by a higher power because when they don't believe in one, nothing limits their corruption and selfishness.
We've seen this.
The Bible is also clear about people being ruled by foreigners when they reject God.

>>22867675
the jews hate catholics because they have been persecuted by them. and rightfully. they want you to be heretic, either from "christian" cults, or straight pagan.
jesus said kikes are satanic and they hate him for that.

TOTAL KIKE DEATH.

>>22867706
I think it's funny how people fail to understand that the story being so complex is a foundation of why it's true. If it weren't true, it would be easier to do what the muslims do and say "It all came to our leader in a vision! We will follow everything he says". Instead, Christians say "I have pieced together the story of the strange religion that came out of the desert, and it is the truth, and being the truth, it is complicated".

If it weren't true, I'm sure many people would prefer to just swallow a lie, a simple "God is good, just believe" kind of lie. Instead, it's the truth, and the truth is complicated and will involve study and meditation to fully grasp.

To me, your mockery only underscores your own ignorance. Christ is King.

Kek jannies had to shut it down after it was pointed out that only 1 in every 100k christkikes think Whites were the real israelites.

>>22867719
>Trashes on well known as the largest white nationalist groups labelled as extremists for their anti semitism by the ADL, SPLC and ZOG
found another one lol

> thread got moved
lol
lmao
jewish religious control of the West isn't political
but antiwhite spam stays for hours
do not redeeem saaaar

>>22867732
>Gets moved right after real info on jewish heritage and Christian identity is mentioned
Your tranny jannies got mad

>>22867731
Christkike identity faggots aren't even accepted by christendumb dumbfuck see >>22867725
If you think you're a real jew drop address and I'll come search under your floorboards for your inbred kike family

>>22867734
> your
The fuck I have with jannies, faggot?
And don't get me going about christian eunuchs, from Origen to you.

Friendly reminder that Europeans were never part of the abrahamic kike covenant which is why Romans and Greeks mocked israelites for having mutilated jewish dicks.

sorry kikes. no matter what you do or say, you won't destroy this planet, neither have us as your slaves. your personal demon who will give you want you want doesn't exists.

the only truth in this world is there is human beings, who work out of reason (logos = god), and demonic animals, lead by the 7th deadly sins and corruption (desire = daemons).

you are in the corrupted side. and you will loose.

TOTAL KIKE DEATH.

>>22867766
just let the thread die

>>22867669
>The bible is anti-theistic
Atheists aren't sending their best

>>22867744
This thread started with pic of a rabid anti-Christian tranny lover.

>>22868122
Checked, slow board or not.
> pic of a rabid anti-Christian tranny lover
I'm sorry, I don't know that e-celeb and thus I still can't see the connection.
> tranny lover
Our humble water salesman got bald?