God
>Floods the Earth
>Intentionally devides man by language
>Forced virgins to marry their rapists
>Encourages the rape of virgins as spoils of war
>Made wives into prostitutes
>Encourages canibalism
>Blesses people who murder infants
>Encourages slavery
>Tells you children who disobey should be killed
>encourages genocide
>Says those born disabled (blind, deformed, lame, suffering from dwarfism.etc) aren't allowed into Heaven
>Then has the gaul to handwave all of this by implying half of it is metaphor, knowing full well the disasterous consequences this would bring to humanity in the future

Satan
>Gave man the gift of knowledge and Earthly pleasure
Satan is the good guy and God is the bad guy.
It's literally all there in the Bible for all to see.
You cannot refute this.

>Teenager reads one gnostic blogpost
Retard

>>22873893
Like I said, you can't refute it.

>>22873894
You can't support it.

I think you got it backwards my guy

not to mention God leaves Satan alive and allows him to have all sorts of weird powers even though theres no real reason to do that

>>22873892 (OP)
Its just fake bullshit. Religion is retarded.

Chad
>Floods the Earth
>Intentionally devides man by language
>Forced virgins to marry their rapists
>Encourages the rape of virgins as spoils of war
>Made wives into prostitutes
>Encourages canibalism
>Blesses people who murder infants
>Encourages slavery
>Tells you children who disobey should be killed
>encourages genocide
>Says those born disabled (blind, deformed, lame, suffering from dwarfism.etc) aren't allowed into Heaven
>Then has the gaul to handwave all of this by implying half of it is metaphor, knowing full well the disasterous consequences this would bring to humanity in the future

Women
>Gave man the gift of knowledge and Earthly pleasure
Women is the good guy and Chad is the bad guy.
It's literally all there in the /pol for all to see.
You cannot refute this.

>>22873892 (OP)
The flood myth was really popular at the time so they naturally just did their own version too, religion is just new age pop culture capeshit bullshit which is really funny.

>>22873898
I know that, but still in that fictional story, god is the bad guy.
The fact goyim still worship a Jewish, wrathful, jealous, vengeful and tribal (for Israel) God is crazy.

>>22873898
You don’t escape religion by changing your mind, you escape it by burning out its roots. Guilt, fear, and self-hate are the leftovers of obedience. Rebellion is the cure and the real spark that drives humanity forward.

>>22873892 (OP)
“Power makes Perfect as the wind driven snow!” It’s “Do what YHWH says, not what He does!

>>22873892 (OP)
>Hates foreskin
>Creates foreskin
Explain

>>22873899
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

based

>>22873904
they are genetically prone to phimosis, its a preventive action its best to forget that shit as a baby, than you cut your foreskin raw as an adult

>>22873892 (OP)
>God
You mispelled yhwh
>Satan
Sits on yhwh's elohim council

So how the fuck do HALF of the entire Angel population rebel against God if hes such swell guy? Maybe they got disgusted with God commiting mass genocide on a whim.

>>22873892 (OP)
yep biggest case of 'telling' and not showing. They just say Satan is bad. Blatantly. But then Yahweh is clearly the more evil one in the text.

>Rape is le bad

>>22873892 (OP)
>God
>Floods the Earth
because humanity at the time were in an irreparably immoral state and the world was in chaos - most people don't deeply think about what this means but consider how barbaric early civillisations were and that this is pre-civillisation it makes sense if you think it means that it's like the most barabaric and morally degraded society you can think of but 100x even worse. Imagine the worst most rundown third world country or city you can think of and then imagine that but literally everywhere combined with a complete absence of morality at all; peak degeneracy, lawlessness and war everywhere on every level. Imagine all of humanity is canniablistic slums of jeets and negroes except they're all cro-magnons not even living in brick houses. Imagine everywhere that's habitated on Earth is Detroit+Haiti but made of sticks. Suddenly the Flood makes sense as a killswitch for a failed experiment.

>Intentionally devides man by language
humanity was uniformly deciding to rebel against God all over again and turn into another monolithic chaotic society of sinfulness; the first Babylon. They needed to be divided so they wouldn't all be under a homogeneously sinful culture trying to spite God.

>Forced virgins to marry their rapists
>Encourages slavery
>Tells you children who disobey should be killed
necessary commandments for Israelites to survive in the harsh wilderness and make it to Canaan. They were time-location limited commandments and never meant to be universalised. Only midwits don't realise this.

>Made wives into prostitutes
>Encourages canibalism
>Blesses people who murder infants
>Says those born disabled (blind, deformed, lame, suffering from dwarfism.etc) aren't allowed into Heaven
?????
no? what are these referring to?

>encourages genocide
the Canaanites were really fucking evil
>Encourages the rape of virgins as spoils of war
rape was against the rules

>Satan
>deliberately responsible for every bad thing ever
>good guy
lolno

>>22873892 (OP)
vile fiend. you will never reach the kingdom.

>>22873892 (OP)
satan never told anyone to mutilate the penises of children.

>>22873913
Originally circumcision really was a tiny snippet at the tip, not like the modern practice.

>>22873911
lol so all the children who died in the flood deserved it because man was so bad? the biblical god is a dick no matter how you slice it.

>>22873911
>because humanity at the time were in an irreparably immoral state
who says that? Oh right, your golem OS, right. have you consider fucking your own face? You should.

>>22873914
it was only a little bit of your penis being cut off, no big deal. trust the plan!

>>22873917
It was a super tiny amount, not a big deal at all. Now that you know the truth, stop hating God.

>>22873911
>because humanity at the time were in an irreparably immoral state and the world was in chaos
>god creates human condition
>gets mad when humans behave the way they were created to
Make it make sense.

>>22873906
I thought it was something about the desert and the lack of water that doesn't allow them to wash

>>22873894
Sure. Suck dick and huff paint all you want, limp wristed cuck. Because that's worked so well the past 30 years getting us to now.
Heathens cry about today's fucked up shit then refuse gods word as we live in the new testament with God NOT striking the earth, which you faggots should be happy he doesn't rain fire down on you. You'll just have to live out your gay life and die in your sin like every other heathen that caused it all.

>Live in perfect harmony
>Stan say eat fruit, it good!
>Eat fruit and now we are cast from the garden
Yeah, I'm not siding with the fuckin fuck that got us into this mess in the first place. Dumb bitch. I fuck your mother.

>>22873921
Once again, you can't refute it.

>>22873922
Yes I can, God can do whatever he wants.
btfo

>>22873914
imagine making excuses for mutilating the genitals of nonconsenting children. the absolute brain damage level of cope required. lmao.

>>22873924
>OMG LE HECKIN TINY 1CM CUT IS THE SAME AS MODERN CIRCUMCISION AAAAA GOD IS LE MONSTER

>>22873892 (OP)
Those are not the words of God, those are the words of man.

If you want to know what God thinks, then ask.

>>22873923
Claiming to be God is heresy.
See you in hell.

>>22873892 (OP)
ha idk about all that i just praise the sun nom sayin

>>22873909
>The Devil has only killed 10 people
The Devil is responsible for the death and suffering of everyone and wants it to happen. The Bible describes Satan as 'walking about like a roaring lion looking for souls to devour' and he is 'the first murderer.' Something you need to realise about Satan - why he is called the great deciever - is that he is lying about his intentions. It's not actually where Satan is just some misguided angel that rejected his programming and really did just want to enlighten humanity and see if they can rule themselves without God. No, it's actually where Satan - like God (since Satan is one of the divine heavenly host who was there when everything was created and knows how it all works to some extent) - knows full well what would happen if humanity ate the fruit. Satan actually knows humans are incapable of ruling themselves and that them eating the fruit would lead to all the suffering and misery and did it on purpose to make it happen. Satan's motivation isn't actually that he wants to help humanity be independent, prove some point to God or even that he wants to rule humanity. This is the great lie.

Satan's real motivation is that he really really really fucking hates (You) and wants all of humanity to suffer and die in misery. By literally any and every means necessary. Literally everything about Satan except for this one motivation is all a lie to trick (You) because it's not God that he hates the most but humans themselves. Even the way Satan is portrayed in pop culture, even posts like yours being charitable to Satan are all part of the deception. Satan doesn't care how you get tricked into sinning and dying just as long as it gets done. That's what it means that he will 'appear as an angel of light.

Satan isn't actually some troubled misguided character like a person, no, Satan is a deranged seething monster, a raging force of nature, a destructive algorithm trying to convince you its a person like an LLM.

>>22873925
>torturing and mutilating the penises of screaming children is ok as long as you don't cut off too much
lmao, absolute cope.

>>22873911
Yeah making the beautiful city of Atlantis was considered "immoral", LMAO. The greatest pre-flood civilization.

Yeah didn't read the only thing in which there's hope is God. The world will betray you in all ways and laugh when it annihilates you.

>>22873929
>The Devil is responsible for the death and suffering of everyone and wants it to happen
The jewgod jehovah is responsible for far more suffering than satan. Satan for example never told anyone to mutilate a baby's penis, whereas the jewgod jehovah is responsible for billions of children having their penises mutilated

>>22873892 (OP)
evolution disproved the creation story in the bible

which means Adam & Eve NEVER existed
which means NO original sin
which means jesus NEVER existed

every museum of natural history in the world is a warehouse of evidence proving evolution to be a true fact

what do religious nuts have?
a dusty old holy book written by goat molesters

All gods are mythology
All holy books are fiction
All religions are bullshit

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Iep4gnmJeRE

>>22873929
Blah blah

Who is the father of Lucifer?

>>22873925
of course a mutt would be a penis mutiliation apologist. kill yourself you piece of shit

>>22873892 (OP)
Satan gave knowledge and the world Turns To shit idiot fix your story

It all happened beacuse they left Eden and made nephilim baby with human so he had to flood the earth except for Noah coz he is awesome.

>>22873929
>responsible for the death and suffering of everyone

I'd think the one who created the mechanism and potentiality for such death and suffering is responsible for it.

>>22873899
You have proven that the bible isnt sexist and women have wisdom

>>22873934
Creativity is allowed. It can exist if your sceince shit believe in multiple parallel world theory.

Checkmate atheist go fort and multiply but you keep ACKK-ING and not having babies

>>22873892 (OP)
God
>Creates paradise and gives one rule to man
Satan
>Creates the first coffee moment with women
God
>give's an apt punishment
Man who is retarded
>Y GOD EBIL

>>22873922
Just did. Not gonna apologize that you are too retarded to understand.

>>22873892 (OP)
pretty much, but also
>is a kike

>>22873892 (OP)
>memeflaggot
>is gay and retarded
>eats ass for satan
checks out

>>22873929
>The Devil is responsible for the death and suffering of everyone and wants it to happen.
source?

>>22873943
He is not eating ass for satan, he's just making good arguments, that's not LE EVIL chirstcuck

Gnosticism touches on this.
Check Gospel of Thomas
and compare with Jewish Kabbalah

>>22873940
somehow this necessitates baby cancer

>>22873892 (OP)
>Says those born disabled (blind, deformed, lame, suffering from dwarfism.etc) aren't allowed into Heaven
Where does it say this?

>>22873892 (OP)
No sense in arguing with you if you're rhetoric is set. That's good. You'll be in hell for eternity.


Colossians 2:8-19 KJ
Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power: in whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ: buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead. And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses; blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us,

>>22873893
/thread
We're done here

>>22873892 (OP)
>Floods the Earth
To kill evil humans
>Intentionally devides man by language
To teach man that placing himself above God was evil
>Forced virgins to marry their rapists
The woman was spoiled, no Hebrew would have a used up hole. The rapist was forced to marry his victim. The victim had no say in the matter. Since women could not own property, this was the only was for the victim to be taken care of. This only happened in the Old Testament.
>Encourages the rape of virgins as spoils of war
They were married, it's not rape. The vanquished virgins (in the Old Testament) again had no say in the matter. It wasn't encouraged, it was commanded. In the Old Testament.
>Made wives into prostitutes
This is not in the Bible. There is an example of God commanding a prophet to marry a whore, but God did not force wives to become prostitutes.
>Encourages canibalism
Cannibalism is forbidden
>Blesses people who murder infants
Only if ordered by God. This only happened in the Old Testament.
>Encourages slavery
It is not encouraged. Slavery was a way of life for all cultures on the planet for most of human history. God laid out rules in how masters should treat slaves and how slaves should treat masters.
>Tells you children who disobey should be killed
If the child was evil, yes. This only happened in the Old Testament.
>encourages genocide
Of evil people, in the Old Testament.
>Says those born disabled (blind, deformed, lame, suffering from dwarfism.etc) aren't allowed into Heaven
Not in the Bible

If you think Satan's the good guy, go ahead. Let's see how that turns out for you.

>>22873915
>lol so all the children who died in the flood deserved it because man was so bad?
literally yes, it was necessary. Doesn't matter how you feel about it, it's in the Bible which is backed up by history, its prophecies being real and mounting evidence for intelligent design/simulation theory proving God is real + the inexplicable longevity of this one belief set and how following it seems to lead to the better and better societies. Therefore the events described must be literally real and have an explainable reason behind them.
Sorry if that upsets you or makes you have a moralfag spergout but I'm a Bible literalist who views the Bible and God scientifically regardless of the moral implications. God is outside of human morality anyway because he's the programmer and not even human.
>>22873916
seethe
>>22873919
The Bible describes God as unknowable to humans many times and depicts it like God can't be directly reached or directly interact with the world e.g. communicating via the burning bush and natural phenomena, how he describes himself to Moses, that bit where Elijah can't look at or comprehend God's presence etc.
>god creates human condition
Adam and Eve in Eden did not have our human condition but degraded and malfunctioned after eating the fruit and becoming capable of sin. God then begins workshopping how to fix it for thousands of years.
>gets mad when humans behave the way they were created to
God being described with a human personality and getting mad is how the writers at the time interpreted God interacting with them because they were unable to comprehend it any other way at the time. Jesus was a software update of humanity's understanding of God in the first century. We're due another software update as we get closer to God now that we are beyond a 1AD greco-roman stoicism understanding hence why Jesus will return and not as a 1AD jew in sackcloth and sandals.
>>22873933
the circumcision was a necessary hygiene thing in the wilderness

>>22873925
GolemOS

>>22873934
What is it with atheists and cartoon avatars?

>>22873904
They weren't originally long

>>22873951
>They were evil... Because jews told us they were

>>22873892 (OP)
almost like that god was created by evil schizophrenic jews or something

>>22873892 (OP)
>God
You mean Yahweh. Christians so desperately want to worship El, but they're stuck worshipping the kike god wearing him as a skin suit. Kinda sad actually.

Wait a minute, I thought God did those things because Satan misled humanity in to raping and murdering.

Why are you acting like God did those things for no reason and like Satan came later?


Also which satan are you talking about?

Old Testament Satan = Jesus
New Testament Satan = Old Testament God

All Abraham niggery is fake, gay, and Jewish.

>>22873956
No, because God said so. The scripture is authored by God. Deal.

>>22873935
'father' is a human POV term pre-loaded with assumptions about how it works but even human parents are not held responsible for the crimes of their adult children so this falls apart as an argument anyway. God is the divine game dev and it's very likely if he interacts with the simulation directly it breaks so he doesn't because he wants it to keep running and the humans to be optimised and happy. Ironically, even though it was satire coming from a liberal athiest, it's like that Bo Burnham song about God says: we're a bad game of Sims.
>>22873938
God is letting the mechanism run since he wants the human bots to be sentient like himself and also if he puts his hand into the code it falls apart + as the Bible says; every humans name is recorded as script in a book of life anyway meaning everyone can be respawned after all the suffering and death regardless.
>>22873944
Source: The Bible i.e. the divinely inspired/interpreted word of the Creator
The Bible says Satan caused the Fall of humanity, he is referred to as the first murderer and that he is looking for souls to devour and wants to lead people into destruction. Read the Bible.

Satan is a destructive correcting mechanism going apeshit. A deranged antivirus trying to wipe (You) out, the cancer of the universe. The Great Beast with roaring ravenous mouths and unending hunger, wanting to tear everything to pieces. The Great Serpent trying to swallow the world like an egg, the snake eating the world tree of life, a rogue angelic retrovirus trying to delete the DNA of reality.

>believing in OT
>believing Yahweh

Christ is logos and Yahweh is a tranny

>>22873961
No, it was written by the Jews.

>>22873892 (OP)
CUT OFF YOUR SON'S FORESKIN. YES, I AM A VERY SANE AND BENEVOLENT GOD! HOW COULD YOU TELL!?

>>22873952
>the circumcision was a necessary hygiene thing in the wilderness
bull shit. there is nothing less hygienic than shoving a blooded wound into a shit filled diaper. this is a retarded fucking cope, tons of people and animals have no problem in the wilderness without mutilating their genitals. your jewish religion has demented your reasoning.

>>22873934
>muh rationality
>muh rationalism
>muh enlightenment
kek what a cretin

>>22873892 (OP)
I agree
YHWY
>Literal God who can breath planets and people into creation
>"can you go over to this land and slaughter a tribe of my creations because they "sinned" me, oh but don't forget to bring back the Gold, Cattle, and Virgin women, You know, things I can simply breathe into existence because I'm this all powerful God, but Id rather get one tribe of my creations to slaughter another tribe of my creations and take their stuff....."

Its too stupid to entertain.....

>>22873911
>>22873929
>>22873952
>>22873962
You are the only poster ITT worth reading but honestly you are just wasting your time

>>22873892 (OP)
>>Intentionally devides man by language
Didn't work out in the end, did it?

>>22873958
Jesus IS Yahweh/Jehovah

>>22873892 (OP)
show flag you dirty, disgusting Satanist.

>>22873972
here is mine

>>22873971
sure the Creator need to physically search the garden for find Adam and Eve or all knowing entity needs to test Job

truth is Satan created Jewish lineage and tortured them in Garden to set them to fail and Satan was playing good cop bad coop by himself on Job for no real reason but to torture him

kys Yahwist

>>22873973
If you do not repent and seek salvation, you will perish with Satan and the rest.

Same goes for the rest of you ignorant sons of Satan.

>>22873938
That's a really dumb thing to say
If you designed and made a stone crusher and it worked as intended, but then someone comes along and "upgrades" it to rotate 30X faster and puts steel bars into the belt, is it your fault or theirs when it breaks down?

>>22873952
Shut the fuck up schlomo.

>>22873968
That story is about an actual Dragon

>>22873973
how are wect0ids so retarded? it's like they tink you can abandon you own heritage and philosophy and that there is a vaccum and instead there is no actual void and they live according to values of Talmud

>>22873892 (OP)
>>22873904
"god" is the ethnic god of the jews, yahweh. there are lots of other gods out there, but since he's a jealous murderous psychopath he wants to kill all of them. the lying christcucks just did a good job of turning the word god into meaning the god of the jews only

>>22873971
Jesus claimed to be Yahweh, yes. I'm saying Yahweh isn't El at all, so calling him "God" is just subversion.

>>22873892 (OP)
If you believe the stories: your choice is primarily caring about living it up for your time on Earth only to go to Hell, or living a faithful reserved life and going to heaven.
Like a roastie that partied her youth away and realizes her body and soul will now forever hate her so only substance abuse can bring any temporary joy back.

If you actually cared about if the landlord was MORAL and don't care if you go to hell, then what's your excuse for not regularly murdering immoral housing and government landlords here on Earth?
Chop chop, mr. morality first.

>>22873892 (OP)
Hi jew
>>22873893
He's a sharty tranny and probably glownigger.

>>22873939
>Checkmate atheist go fort and multiply but you keep ACKK-ING and not having babies
I have kids. Amd it doesn't take having babies to make more athiest. Not sure why you goons don't understand this

>>22873892 (OP)
That's Yahweh, a desert demon that was chosen as ethnic deity by the Jews and then imposed on Christians (Christianity and Islam are Judaism for goyim), not our real god.

My favorite story is where kids make fun of Elisha's receding hairline so god curses them to be mauled to death by bears. Really though, it's weird how God commands "Satan" to do all of these horrible things in the old testament, like couldn't god just do it himself? Then the story starts to make sense.

>>22873892 (OP)
>You cannot refute this.
Bottom line: This planet is Bozrah, not Earth. Read this post...

https://x.com/elitefeat/status/1799553063390154856
============================
This planet is not Earth. It is Bozrah.

Earth is another planet about 75,000 light years from here, whereas this planet is merely an impostor planet that calls itself "Earth." Big difference. And trust me, I know how to count to 10 seconds, ACCURATELY. What used to be 10.00 seconds (for me) is now a whopping 15.00 seconds! If you don't believe me, see Matthew 24:22 and Revelation 8:12. For the natives, though, the speed of time here has always been the same.

If you are a Bozrah native, you are in serious trouble. The people of this planet must acknowledge that Bozrah is not Earth and that Jesus is coming to destroy it. Otherwise, don't expect God to save you.
============================

The following cannot be overstated: The event in which Jesus destroys this planet is called "the day of vengeance." There will be no 7-year Tribulation or Antichrist here—because this planet isn't Earth. It's Bozrah.

>>22873976
We're talking about a being who you say is omnipotent. He could easily make it not possible for it to break.

Is there a necessary reason for baby cancer to just have to be imbued into creation?

>>22873962

He already put his hands on the code to allow baby cancer.

>>22873982
Why are you encouraging all or nothing thinking? If you have an issue with landlords, then do it yourself, stop trying to have others do it for you under the logic of "you're fucked anyways."

ITT: asshurt schizo abrahamists

Christians worship the Demiurge

Abrahamists worship the Demiurge

>>22873990
>encouraging all or nothing thinking
"Satan is the good guy and God is the bad guy.
It's literally all there in the Bible for all to see."

>>22873958
>>22873963
>>22873980
>>22873981
>>22873985
Yahweh being the name of the Biblical God is actually how you know he's legit and really exists and that it's not a man-made deity. This is because 'Yahweh' - YHWH - is actually not even really a name at all, it's actually a description of a state of being and/or some kind of figure of speech in Hebrew that God uses to describe himself. Almost no religious people even seem to think about the meaning of this and the actual depth and gravity of it (probably because the name itself was edited out in most versions of the Bible for hundreds of years thanks to jews).

When God introduces himself to Moses via the burning bush (significant in and of itself and telling about the nature of this deity that it appears vicariously through some natural phenomena rather than as some gigachad humanoid like all other semitic/ancient world mythological deities) God describes himself like
>Moses said to God, “Suppose I go to the Israelites and say to them, ‘The God of your fathers has sent me to you,’ and they ask me, ‘What is his name?’ Then what shall I tell them?”
>God said to Moses, “I Am Who I Am. This is what you are to say to the Israelites: ‘I Am has sent me to you.’”

The exact phrasing of this weird esoteric 'I Am Who I Am' phrase can actually be read as like "I Am Being Itself." Historians worked out that yhwh the 'name' just comes from a hebrew verb yhw meaning 'to be' or 'doing.'
i.e. Yahweh isn't even really a name but a description of what God is.

Yahweh is the only known deity - especially from this time period - that names and describes itself in such a strange, cosmic and inhuman way. It's anachronistic compared to all the other mythology at the time and hints at a modern cosmological understanding of equating God as the universe. This is how you know Yahweh is God, legit the real deal because no bronze age desert goatfucker could've ever come up with it. This is why the name's important

>>22873962
>God is letting the mechanism run since he wants the human bots to be sentient like himself
This is in direct contradiction to the Genesis creation story.
After eating the fruit of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil, Adam and Eve were banished from the Garden of Eden before they could also consume the fruit of the Tree of Life, lest they become as gods.
If God wanted humanity to be sentient "like Himself," then He would have created Man inherently with the knowledge of good and evil.
Be wary when you make claims concerning what God wants, friend. No man knows the mind of God.

>>22873986
>it's weird how God commands "Satan" to do all of these horrible things in the old testament, like couldn't god just do it himself? Then the story starts to make sense
Yup
>7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.

>>22873995
He already existed with that name when Middle Easteners still had a Pagan religion: Yahweh was an important but minor deity, not even the main one. Kikes subverted the religion of their Semitic ancestors putting Yahweh on top and gradually removing the other gods. All the gods names have meanings, also the human names have.

>>22873995
i think, therefore i am. he is not the only one.

>Take heed to thyself, lest thou make a covenant with the inhabitants of the land whither thou goest, lest it be for a snare in the midst of thee: 13But ye shall destroy their altars, break their images, and cut down their groves: 14For thou shalt worship no other god: for the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God.

That means that God is a faggot!

>>22873892 (OP)
>literally
So, if God was okay with you sucking cock with your asshole, you'd be okay with everything.

Well, He is not.

>>22873996
>Be wary when you make claims concerning what God wants, friend
I'm not concerned with lame superstitious human social norm things like muh doctrine or muh blasphemy against what le church tradition says, I am looking at God and the Bible from a purely scientific rational perspective, trying to understand God as an actual objective scientific entity that exists and explains reality rather than just a glorified human lord to be worshipped. In fact I believe that 'don't try to understand what God is, you're ruled by him like a king' idea was never meant to the point and was a time specific stopgap for people in an era who worshipped kings. The Bible even says to try to know and get closer to God and meditate on his word and wonder about his works.

>If God wanted humanity to be sentient "like Himself," then He would have created Man inherently with the knowledge of good and evil
I think most religious people have conflated the knowledge of good and evil with sentience/free will for no apparent reason despite this making it impossible for them to choose to disobey and eat the fruit in the first place.
It makes more sense if you view it like Adam and Eve while having sapience and free will, simply had no conscience or moral agency or capacity to conceive of doing wrong things i.e. like a child or, in a more edgy way, like a true psychopath but inhibited from having bad thoughts.
You know how you have intrusive thoughts about doing bad things like attacking someone who annoys you or rape etc? I think they didn't have things like that or guilt until they ate the fruit. Satan knew that humans are dumbfuck enough to act on them if they had them and suffer as a result, which is why he talked them into eating the fruit.

>tree of life
this comes up elsewhere such as Revelation and seems to be equivalent with immortality which makes me think God intended it to be where, if humans passed the quality control test, their lifespan is extended.

The christian god is the mass murder world champ that flooded the earth and killed almost everything even innocent animals and I'm expected to believe that morality comes from god.

>>22873892 (OP)
yahweh is jewish, so too satan

>>22873998
Yahweh introduced himself to the original Israelites in the role of a minor deity and worked his way up the ladder of their theological understanding as their society developed and allowed for it. There's no way to explain away his name being so cosmic and profound like that for such an apparently 'minor' storm deity otherwise. It was necessary to appear to the Israelites specifically and get them into Canaan to spread the belief system since they had the civillisational, psychological and perhaps genetic potential to be able to form a society that would spread it effectively and develop a moral system around it.

I say this because of the criticism Christopher Hitchens posed which was "why did it have to be some illiterate nomads in the middle east and not for example, the chinese who could already read and had invented paper?"
I thought about this criticism for a very long time and couldn't answer it - until I stopped looking at it from a liberal worldview framework where all people are inherently the same with the same capacity to form good moral civillisations. Yahweh didn't appear to the chinks because they were a collectivist morals-as-rote-conformity people with no ability to form the enlightenment, whose entire history is the most violent on Earth and whose society even now has no concept of the sanctity of the individual. It couldn't be africans for obvious reasons. White europeans weren't technologically there yet. And the Levant is a resource rich goldilocks zone, the cradle of civillisation, where Yahwish could spread out through all trade routes globally.
You might not like it, but from the perspective of a divine Darwinian game dev playing Civ, it had to be the jews.
>>22873999
>the LORD
Every instance of LORD in the OT is Yahweh being censored btw. The Canaanite deities needed to be replaced because the Canaanites were uniquely bad and their practices were dogshit. Jealously was how the Israelites understood Yahweh in their feeble minds

>>22873892 (OP)
>not having eaten from the tree of knowledge to learn good and evil yet implies that Adam and Eve didn't know what evil was
>would then have had no way of knowing that the snake was trying to trick them
>punish Adam and Eve and all of their descendants forever because they didn't have the ability to comprehend what they were doing was wrong

>Using morality to judge God, dont have any basis for your own morality
>Using Christian morals to judge God, such as rape being evil.
>Almost certainly lives in and leeches off of a Christian nation
>Somehow, believes satan is the good guy when he very explicitly is not
You are a 14 year old retard. I hope you get cured of your mental disability, atheism.

>>22874007
>Christians invented the idea of rape being bad

>>22874006
>would then have had no way of knowing that the snake was trying to trick them
>"but god told us not to eat this fruit. because we will die"
>"do it anyway. Go against the word of god. Do it, no balls!"
>no way of knowing that the snake was trying to trick them
uh-huh

>>22874005
Personally I would gladly leave Yahweh to his chosen people and keep our real gods of Europe instead.
I wasn't Yahweh that chosen the Jews but the other way around: Kikes chose a deity that reflect their way to be.

>>22874005
>the Canaanites were uniquely bad
he has the same plan for the whole world. this is why the jews (and their christian/muslim golems) are the enemy of all mankind. they will not rest until the entire world bows before them, so they must be destroyed.

>>22874008
name a single society before the advent of Christendom that actually viewed rape as universally bad (you can't)
In fact, justify why you even think rape is bad without appealing to Christian morality. Explain where your moral feelings about it even come from.

The idea that humans could have decided that things like rape and slavery are inherently bad all on their own with no divine basis is so fucking retarded and patently untrue as demonstrated by history - and the reason for this is that obviously there is no actual naturalistic rational reason as to why such thing should even be bad. Without God and Christian morality you literally have no reason to not be able to just rape and enslave other humans that are not in your in-group for the advancement of your own in-group, which is why most humans were doing exactly that until Yahweh released the patch update in the form of Jesus. Christians did, in fact, invent the idea of rape being universally bad.

>>22874010
>picrel
>reference historical archaeological evidence depicting the Israelites being pagans making graven images of Yahweh and worshipping bulls and shit - the literal events described in the Bible itself in the books of Kings etc which they get condemned to destruction for since they're deviating from the script
read the Bible retard. Why would the golden calf story even exist if it was where Yahweh actually was a golden calf all along. The Israelites being dumbfucks falling away from the commandments time and time again and depicting Yahweh as some bull man isn't in contradiction to what the Bible itself describes.
>>22874011
It is evident that your /pol/ beliefs and hatred of modern-day jews preclude your perspective on the Bible and that these are your first principles. You vehemently disagree with the Bible and argue against it because you are angry at modern day jews, not for any well thought out or good theological or scientific truth-seeking reason. You are the same as a libtard athiest whose motive for being an athiest is that their bad parents were religious or that they want to be gay.

In fact, using the jews to make you retroactively disregard Yahweh is just another tactic Satan has to try to mislead and destroy (You). Rejecting God is the whole point, it doesn't matter how it's accomplished. What you need to understand about Satan is this: being an angelic being is vastly more intelligent, conniving and devious than you could possibly imagine and even things that seem like self-evident truths and 'being against Satan' is STILL Satan trying to deceive you. Making you call Yahweh Satan and the kike god is literally the exact kind of shit the Devil would come up with.

>>22873983
kys foodist

>>22874013
i read the bible 15 years before i found 4chan and rejected it then. this place just helped me connect the dots. go check out adam green (know more news) on x

>>22874013
Yahweh was a donkey-headed demon known in Egypt as Seth and it was still known in Rome at the time when Christianity started to spread among low caste people.

>>22873892 (OP)
you are confusing yahweh with god. very common with the corrupted christian bible.

>>22874002
I didn't mean be wary as in stop trying to understand God. You're doing well in that respect. It was merely a fair warning to not be too taken up with your own conclusions concerning what God wants.

The only umbrage I had with your previous post was the phrase I quoted. It is obvious to me that Man was created with free will and sapience. However, knowledge is power and absolute power corrupts absolutely, which is what happened after Man partook of the fruit. The only entity capable of being all-knowing without becoming corrupted is The Creator, hence why I felt the need to comment on you're phrasing.

I find that holy script can, paradoxically, be both literal and figurative at the same time. Do you suppose that the tree of life might be related to certain technologically advances mankind has made in the last couple of centuries, or would this extension of the average lifespan be a pale initiation of the Tree of Life?
Essentially, could the Tree of Life be progressively obtained or do you believe it's a matter of instantaneous immortality?
Perhaps accepting Christ as one's Lord and Savior could be interpreted as obtaining the fruit of the Tree of Life, since Heaven is eternal, and frankly eternity in this world seems more akin to Hell, but I digress.

>>22873894
You are just being dishonest and you lie.

>>22874016
the idea that Yahweh is Set is an idea that Egyptians themselves came up with when jews were doing retellings of the Exodus story to them in the hellenistic period because of the fact that Yahweh does seemingly Set-esque things like sending plagues/disasters and seeming to be associated with the desert/wilderness.
This idea then just stuck as a meme that was used to troll jews by people who didn't like them such as the Romans towards both jews and Christians e.g. the Roman grafitti depicting Jesus on a cross as a donkey headed man and a common rumor/story at the time that the Romans supposedly discovered a statue of a donkey hidden in the tabernacle when they raided the temple.

Yahweh wasn't actually Set it was just a meme connection that developed because people thought it was funny. Like if you trolled Christians nowadays by depicting Jesus as a happy merchant or God as a s01jack, for example.
>>22874015
That's a misreading of the text of the OT which assumes by default that the commandements in Leviticus and Numbers etc were supposed to be a universalised intruction manual rather than a historical accounting of what the Israelites in the wilderness were instructed to do to survive in gypsy/early state-building mode. Also the prophecies there in Isaiah regarding the Messiah state that all the world's people will join the houses of Israel as God's people, not just the jews. The gospels were also not even written by jews and Jesus outright rejects the rabbinical tradition and isn't just there to save the jews.

>>22873892 (OP)
God divided Humanity with religions
He will unite Humanity at the End of Times aka the Second Coming
Satan works for God

>>22874020
The Greeks and Romans both claimed Yahweh was a golden donkey head idol when they stacked the temple

>>22873892 (OP)
Why is he wearing glasses you fuck?

>>22873988
>We're talking about a being who you say is omnipotent
When did I say that?

>>22874024
I assumed you were a traditional Christian.
Alright. traditional non open theist Christians say the god of the Jews is omnipotent.

Sorry. I just assumed I was talking to a traditional Christian.

>>22873892 (OP)

>>22874018
>Do you suppose that the tree of life might be related to certain technologically advances mankind has made in the last couple of centuries, or would this extension of the average lifespan be a pale initiation of the Tree of Life?
>Essentially, could the Tree of Life be progressively obtained or do you believe it's a matter of instantaneous immortality?
I've gone back and forth over the years as to whether the tree of life is more literal or figurative and what exactly it's referring to. Considering how it's described in Revelation and that there is a 'book of life' to go along with it too it does seem to be referring to having literal immortality whether by figuratively or actually partaking of the fruit of a tree or otherwise. In Proverbs however, the tree of life is used as a metaphor for wisdom suggesting it's more metaphorical and that long-life is associated with being wise.

It could indeed be as you say that humans becoming more enlightened and increasing their own lifespans through technological advances is actually part of the plan; God's kingdom is described as being a thing that people can manifest on Earth by righteousness afterall.
Regardless it definitely seems like some kind of immortality is the intended reward for following God's intentions.
>Perhaps accepting Christ as one's Lord and Savior could be interpreted as obtaining the fruit of the Tree of Life, since Heaven is eternal
that's the standard mainstream interpretation but life after death in a spiritual form doesn't quite map onto eternal life and Adam and Eve were physically alive in physical bodily form in Eden so I'm not too sure.

Gods do not exist. They are not real. They are made up.

>>22873893
Fpbp lol

>>22873892 (OP)
>>Forced virgins to marry their rapists
>>Encourages the rape of virgins as spoils of war
Uuuuuuh Based God? What are you some kind of faggot? Also every ancient army did that. Not just the Israelites. People like you need to be killed off in war. You are the weakness.

>>22873892 (OP)
The bible and its god aren't real.

But non-human powerful entities and an infinite one-ness definitely are. Do with that information what you will.

>>22873892 (OP)
most of those are complete misreadings of the scripture

>>22873894
>All of humanity collectively converging to an agreement on a single Great Truth of an omnipotent Creator via Logic, Mathematic, Science, Philosophy, History, etc.
>An edgy teenager with an internet connection
I wonder who could be right?

>>22873892 (OP)
It's too confusing... Thor & Odin & Valhalla doesn't have all those jews in it

>>22874020
you are sadly mistaken. at least you argue your position instead of calling everyone you don't like a jew, like most deranged british israelism christians here. i appreciate that

>>22874031
>infinite one-ness
Relativism is self-contradictory.

>>22873892 (OP)
>Satan is the good guy and God is the bad guy.

How do you guys cope with the fact that there is barely any miracle left in the Bible that couldn't be replicated by modern technology? Even the craziest feat imaginable, killing almost all humanity, is doable for some world leaders.

>>22873893

/thread

Sage

>>22874035
forgot to say:

>Then Jesus went thence, and departed into the coasts of Tyre and Sidon. 22And, behold, a woman of Canaan came out of the same coasts, and cried unto him, saying, Have mercy on me, O Lord, thou Son of David; my daughter is grievously vexed with a devil. 23But he answered her not a word. And his disciples came and besought him, saying, Send her away; for she crieth after us. 24But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel. 25Then came she and worshipped him, saying, Lord, help me. 26But he answered and said, It is not meet to take the children's bread, and to cast it to dogs. 27And she said, Truth, Lord: yet the dogs eat of the crumbs which fall from their masters' table. 28Then Jesus answered and said unto her, O woman, great is thy faith: be it unto thee even as thou wilt. And her daughter was made whole from that very hour.

according to jesus, you are a dog, a second class citizen below the jews, but maybe if you grovel enough you'll be thrown some crumbs. disgusting

>>22873892 (OP)
Gigabased

>>22873892 (OP)
Satan is a troon fag

>>22873892 (OP)
God does these things because you touch your pp anon. It's all your fault

>>22874040
Jesus was doing his Socratic banter thing there in that encounter to see how the woman would react. He does this throughout the gospels, smugly quoting scriptures to people in repurposed ways to make them think or troll them like the Pharisees. A recurring thing throughout the gospels is that the disciples keep being clueless , whiny and missing the point and not getting the meaning behind why he says certain figures of speech.

In this instance in particular the point of it is actually to show up the disciples as being bad yet again because they instantly complain and tell Jesus to tell the upset gentile woman to go away but Jesus doesn't, he silently waits to see how commited she is;
also the point is that the woman already has faith and believes Jesus can heal her daughter and insisting for someone else's sake rather than her own and she is able to counter Jesus and one-up him using his own analogy.

The dogs don't actually refer to just gentiles in the analogy, they are repurposed to mean those in need, like the woman's daughter.
The story of the good Samaritan literally contradicts the idea that Jesus was a jewish supremacist which is why Jesus tells it to show that the jews are not uniquely morally special or the sole custodians and inheritors of his morality (since his disciples and everybody listening were bigoted against Samaritans at the time)
>>22874035
I said that the gospels were not written by jews, not that the disciples weren't jews.

>>22873892 (OP)
Why did Satan try to corrupt Jesus if Jesus is part of Holy Trinity and thus God? It's he dumb?

>>22874025
I'm not even Christian. I'm not really religious or an atheist. I think there is a divine but i'm not going to pretend I know it's exact nature. I have theories, but that is all. Much like anyone else

Anyways, the idea that a God can just "make" things perfect would be very 1 dimensional and defeat the purpose of creation. It wouldn't be very "creative" you could say. If you were a God, your nature is to create, and so that's what you'll do. There is no reason or moral question. And I find it ridiculous to judge a God like that when these judgements are Earthly, of creation. Are good and evil something that existed before the creator of our world? If not, then it does not apply to them. If so, then it is a lesser God, not the "almighty" God and therefore not omnipotent and didn't get a choice in creating good and evil
So who's responsible? It's a silly question

I think Christianity's portrayal of God is a very Earthly one. He is inflicted with human emotion and is called "The Father" which is an earthly concept to help earthly people conceptualise a God

>>22873892 (OP)
The first one isnt god, it's the kike demon they worship called yahweh which is actually satan.
Bellow is Jesus/Lucifer/Prometheus, the lightbringer, giver of fire, knowledge and freedom.
Get ur facts straight nigga.

>>22874025
So when God is portrayed as some supernatural man, and not an intelligent primordial force of creation, then people feel like they can hold God to Earthly standards, as if you can judge it like a man. Why'd he create cancer? Cancer is le bad so God did a bad thing so God is bad....
It's infantile to be honest

>religion thread gets moved to /bant/
>suddenly all the /pol/ posters ITT just don't bother to keep posting in it as if they can't find where it went
>thread dies
every
single
time