Thread 22884804

One must prepare for water. It'll be the first to go and It's second only to Air. You need clean water for
>Drinking
>Cooking
>First aid
>Hygiene

You need to aim atleast
>2l in survival kit
>500l storage in apartments
>2000l in small homes
>5000l in large homes

If you have proper filteration methods you can count all the water potable : suitable for drinking.

Each person needs atleast 5l water daily for survival. Calculate on based of that.

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>>22884804 (OP)
im prepping to kill brownoids like you

fuck you dalit

This is my filteration kit for BOB
>Sawyer mini with backflush
>Lifestraw
>Purification tablets
>My diy prefilter to increase life of sawyer and lifestraw. It removes everything until small clay particles.
>A small funnel

I'm still finding
>Good 6 mm pipe to make gravitation system . Pvc pipes start leaking oil from their material
>Steripen (too expensive)

Although all in all you should have these as bare minimum in your home. Try to carry a filter in your edc kit

>>22884804 (OP)
i have a well and 500' of parachord, im just going to lower a vessel into my well and pull the water out if i loose power. i have a bunch of lifestraws but haven't used them. i took the sawyer mini backpacking latam and it sucks. next i want to have a pond made

>>22884804 (OP)
List of useful products for anons to consider, backpacking style filters are a great start but hardly sufficient for long term use
>sawyer high flo tap filter
>rv hookup carbon/sediment prefilters
>bathtub waterbob bag
>aquamira storage formula
>hypochlorous sodium generators
>rain barrels (if legal in your jurisdiction)

Is that to wash your ass with?

Rangeban India now.

I live in Florida. We never run out of water. You can easily find it then distill it for drinking.

>>22884808
If your well pump runs on 120v should be super easy to find an inexpensive lithium battery all-in-one unit that can run it - - prices have come down a lot recently

>>22884804 (OP)
>prepping

Do you mean for the week, ranjeet?

>>22884804 (OP)
>flag

>>22884812
Same with me in Alaska.

>>22884812
Same but I bought a fat stack of Black Berkey Candles before brandon put the kibosh on them. I can live off lake water for several years.

>>22884813
its 240v, one of my biggest mistakes since i could have gotten a 120v. plus it uses alot of electricity, ive looked into running it from solar and its not realistic unless i want to spend $10k

You need to Get an RO filter for your home. For large volume filteration. It must have a carbon filter as well as UV disinfection.

Do not buy overly complicated builds with circuits and AI etc. They fail early and hard to repair. But simple kits with filters a pump and UV tube.

Don't buy systems with LED UV disinfection. All those led are fake.
Your system should have a fluorescent UV tube . I prefer philips and Osram. You can get the datasheet online and you can check their exposure with simple banana test.

>>22884818
Bluetti has new very inexpensive unit that does 240v on indiegogo right now (apex 300), pricey of course but in the range of 1-3k depending on how many batteries you add on the support the inverter which is half as much as 240v used to cost just a year ago

>>22884804 (OP)
>blocks your path
>$50

>>22884804 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUmUz8ol9Ow

>>22884808
That's awesome. But you still need ways to filter and purify. As you have a water source, during collapse/disaster it my be targeted/sabotaged to leverage against you.

>i took the sawyer mini backpacking latam and it sucks.

How. Flow rate ? Clogging ?

Rangeban india now

>>22884804 (OP)
>pajeet thinks a lifestraw will allow him to drink from the ganges
My sides have taken leave of this plane of existence

posted in wrong thread
Yeah you can just get any container and fill it with any water, use some clear plastic sheeting and some finagling or glass, and make an evaporative distiller that can output a pint or more an hour here in FL.
Also, making filters isn't hard either. Purifying is easy if you have bleach, peroxide, or do like I do and have some potassium permanganate around. You can generate chlorine or chloramine, you can use silver or silver salts, all kinds of ways to make/purify fresh water.

If you don't know basic chemistry and engineering skills, learn them. They're more valuable than all the prepper shit you could ever stockpile, because you can make all kinds of useful stuff from seemingly useless bullshit.

>>22884804 (OP)
Water comes out of the sky. Any arid regions already have water storage systems so they are good. Apartment dwellers may have issues and storing 2 tonne of water inside a small apartment will be hard anyway, if not totally impossible.

If you're in a humid environment you could run a condenser tube (same as what cools your fridge or AC) and collect the condensation off that. It should be relatively clean.wYMHG

>>22884823
it clogged with just a couple uses, i took super clear water from a river. i tried to unclogg it but was unsuccessful.

>>22884827
I read somewhere that drinking evap condensate is a good way to get legionnaires' but if its purified somehow probably okay. There are dedicated units to produce distilled atmoshpheric water but crazy expensive and power hungry.

>>22884809
Good stuff anon. Yes pocket filters are only for short term scenerio.
>>22884812
Don't rely completely on distillation. You'll need to save fuel, avoid heat signature and faster methods. It also needs to be passive.

Learn to make a charcoal slow sand filter.
schmutzdecke is what actually filters the water. See https://www.slowsandfilter.org/f_valve.html

>>22884830
Or you could just boil it for 5 minutes

>>22884804 (OP)
Anon I can just ride my bike to the local river and get all the water I need. And if that isn't possible, I got 5 other water sources within one hour bicycle ride. I also have the ability to transport 100L on the bicycle thanks to the trailer

>>22884821
Distillation/boiling is good for rare occasions but you cannot use it regularly.You'll need to save fuel, avoid heat signature and faster methods. It also needs to be passive.

Learn to make a charcoal slow sand filter.
schmutzdecke is what actually filters the water. See https://www.slowsandfilter.org/f_valve.html

>>22884817
>>22884818
Been making these threads since Feburary and always happy to see real anons sharing knowledge with each other.

>>22884830
In Florida you can use the sun to distill. Also, PLENTY of stuff to burn to boil water. Grasses and old brush by the ton in my yard alone.

I am planning to build a DIY burkey water filtration out of stainless steel stock pots. Do I need to get the legit burkey brand filters or is there a cheaper alternative that is as effective? I already have a lifestraw peak series solo and significant water storage atm.

>>22884833
I have at least 12 local springs that are safe to drink from, at least 3 that no one else seems to know about. Moving doesn't make sense to me. Once I have ammo and guns, salt, and a clean spring, I can shoot a few deer or one elk and have as much food as I need for a year

>>22884804 (OP)
Why would a jeet need clean water your body is used to all sorts of dangerous toxins

>>22884835
Don't waste your time with that alex jones tier bullshit, they have been discredited several times with faked lab results and such. Any filter worth it's weight requires water pressure to operate. The only alternatives are chemical sanitization or massive amounts of energy to boil the water. Get a cheap 12v battery, rv water pump, and then use any top notch filter you want.

>>22884835
amazon has a bunch of knockoffs for $30.

>>22884836
You still need fat though. That's why you gotta fish

"Prepping" is for people running away, I'm running towards.

Everyone is storing up while I'm throwing away. Can't sprint while burdened by possessions, if you'd join me I wouldn't have to run as fast. But since most people won't it seems I'm going to have to be real, real fast.

>>22884835
Never go cheap on filters as you can never confirm what's coming from the other side. As for storage you need to keep checking it from time to time. Stored water DOES go bad.
>>22884838
Pressure is required but can simply be achieved with a larger head . I.e. the weight of water itself from a sufficient height can create adequate pressure for filteration.

>>22884840
Elk can be quite fatty if you shoot a cow, and pinion pine nuts are abundant in places

>>22884826
Good one anon
>>22884827
You cannot directly drink condensation. You need to purify it.
>>22884828
Ah. Seems I cannot rely on it as my primary. Thanks.
>>22884829
Correct. Disinfection is necessary.
>>22884831
Not practical. For short term filters and pills are faster and easier. For long term it is impractical as it needs lots of fuel and time . Boiling is alway a last resort.

>>22884842
>Stored water DOES go bad.
Be more specific, bad how? I have pool shock to make 5% bleach solution to disinfect the water. I am concerned with a grid down situation where water from the tap stops and I have no desire to line up to get slaughtered like a Gazan in a food/water line.

>>22884804 (OP)
>dirty hindu animal
>making a thread about clean water
fuckin kill yourself you brown fuck. Vishnu is a dirty nigger whore

>>22884838
Can you recommend filters for this setup?

>>22884832
That is good in stable times. But during shtf do you really want to risk yourself going out for water. And 1 hour is a very long trip. Right now it may seem easy. But during disaster, bugin or if you're ill, that 1 hour trip will feel like 10 hour trip.
>>22884836
You're blessed anon. God provided you everything you needed. Now you just have to protect it.
>>22884839
Nope. DON'T go for knockoffs. NOT WORTH IT.

>>22884804 (OP)
I have been building up my tolerance and immunity to being able to drink most liquids by drinking my piss, other peoples piss, and animal piss.

>>22884847
Depends on your needs, will the water be potable before you filter it? If not you need to make it safe first with something like a Sawyer TAP filter. A prefilter of some kind would be a good idea of the water comes from a lake or stream or something. After it's potable you can use any standard household filter you want to make it more palletable.

>>22884849
>t. OPs cousin underage wife

>>22884848
do you have the ecofiltro in india? i used them alot in latam.

>>22884845
This is just my experience. If I store Ro filtered water for long, after 3-4 months some flocs are visible in water. So Ive made a rule to always filter it and add a disinfection tablet.

I'm not saying that you're wrong. It's best to have storage in your home and that's basically the theme of the thread. I'm just saying that don't drink it directly if it has been sitting for too long.

Picrel is from a bottle from my camping bag.

>>22884850
It would be river water. Whats a good prefilter setup?

>>22884852
Nope. There's a brand BRITA which is supposedly good. Other than that it's just local ceramic candle type filters.

>>22884845
>Be more specific, bad how?
Water is the best solvent on earth. It'll absorb a lot of bad things into itself. From the air, from its containment, from anything exposed to it including many hydrophobic substances. And of course a lot of living things(every living thing) loves water.

>>22884854
Rv hookup carbon filters, they are cheap and will clog quickly with cloudy water so get extras. Other options might be an inline sediment filters for people who live on well water or something of that nature. Low tech solution would be a pool filter bag or piece of fabric on the intake. Sawyer filters require backwashing as well but easy to do with a water pump.

>>22884855
dont u people have your own image boards? why do u guys come to 4chan?

>>22884854
>Woven yarn + non-woven fabric prefilter
>Hollow fiber filter 0.1 micron
>Activated carbon filter
>UV disinfection

>>22884848
These also work great and I have several

>>22884860
Get a sturdy case for it, I've heard people screw themselves because they had it at the bottom of their bag and accidently dropped their bag on a rock and it breaks.

>>22884804 (OP)
I just need a gun so I can take everything from people like you

>>22884860
In my list. But sadly they cost $300 and $500 here. Which is very expensive. How much did you bought it for ?

>>22884862
>the raider cope
Every thread never fails, enjoy your sucking chest wound

>>22884804 (OP)
What are you prepping for, camping out in the woods for 3 days?

>>22884804 (OP)
You could drink putrid blood from a 2 week old corpse and still be healthy. Pajeets have resilience of hyena

>>22884864
Imagine not forming a raider gang to obtain regional power.

>>22884863
$130ish

>>22884804 (OP)
Shut up pajeet. None of us need a fucking indian to tell us this and just by you saying it you've detracted people from the idea of it.
Just stay off the internet please.

>>22884858
>why do u guys come to 4chan?
Because the rest of the boards, forums and socia media is pure shit?

Honestly what is even the point for an Indian dude to ‘prep’? You already live in a post apocalyptic demon infested hell hole. And why the fuck would you try to preserve your life? There are billions of you locusts out there. Nobody gives a flying fuck if 500 mil of your kind dies tomorrow. I just find it hilarious that Indian would try to preserve its life.

>>22884868
Would purchase it in a heartbeat at that price. But sadly ~$130 only gets us picrel.

>>22884804 (OP)
>Forgets water for flushing
Tsk tsk tsk
Ngmi

bump

good thread

water is life, anons

can somene recommend me a daily use water filter not a small emergency one? and it must remove fluoride. i was gonna buy a berkey earlier this year but then i found out they might be liars and crappy so i still dont have one

Prep me now OP

>>22884876
>berkey might be liars and crappy
Details?

Reverse osmosis cures all ills and is available at any home improvement store. It's just a lot to set up and you have to trust your mineral pack supplier.

>>22884875
Thanks anon. Hugs
>>22884876
Daily use in what context ? Edc filter or installing in your home's water supply. In any case you need activated carbon filter. Fluoride will be adsorbed in activated carbon . They have a life so once your carbon is saturated/exhausted you'll have to replace it.

>Anything suspended is removed by filteration.
>Most of dissolved gases and metals can be removed by activated carbon
>For hardness/salinity you need reverse osmosis
>For disinfection you need UV/ chlorine.

>>22884808
>loose power
>loose
shameful.

>>22884804 (OP)
Pine xylem
It's all u need

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>>22884804 (OP)
lifestraw doesnt work

>>22884821
I'm with you on this. I have plenty of lumber available.

>>22884883
Howcome. Tell us in detail

>>22884804 (OP)
There are various ways to make a solar still from the basic emergency plastic sheet and a tin can in a hole in the ground to a something more involved you can make cheaply and scale up to make as much clean water as you want and it'll do the job as long as the sun is up and cost almost nothing.

>>22884804 (OP)
i have plumbing so i'm good.

>>22884876
Countertop to in home distillation.
>Shtf
Charcoal isn't hard to make over a fire with a container. All limited use.
Fluoride is not attracted to carbon so removal should not be relied on with carbon filters. Flouride is a poison which sterilizes surface bacteria good and bad. That is why you don't swallow toothpaste. Usually sodium fluoride.

Why is everyone participating in talking to an Indian? Your attention is encouraging it, akin to feeding wild animal and creating a dependency. This is just not the board for such shenanigans

I bought a cheap portable filtration kit (25€) from AliExpress. It seems to works, but it doesn't look very tough. how fucked am I?

>>22884886
>Takes lot of time
>Depends on sunlight
> Reveals your location
>Unsuitable in windy and storm conditions
>Unsuitable in cold weather
>Heavy
>Plastic leeches


It's in my list but it's pretty far below.

>>22884804 (OP)
kek seems like every day in India is a survival situation
How many sawyers do you go through a day?

>>22884890
The main thing that filters is the hollow fibres. I don't think that these cheapos have genuine long lasting filters.
>May not have proper filter pore size
>May be defective or cracked fibres
>Poor material. May work today but ruined after a year.

You can cheap out on knives, flashlights, bags and such things because you can see the results in their case and failure won't kill you.

But in water filters you cannot actually identify whether the filter has failed or is there some contamination passing through some crack or unglued part. AND it can lead to your death.

Save money elsewhere. But buy a genuine water filter. Maybe a MSR or katadyn.

>>22884804 (OP)
I have a gravity filter, it's pretty based and filters yucky flouride. It's the only water I drink at home.

The blood of your enemies is already filtered with the kidneys of your enemies.

>>22884895
>gets AIDS and malaria
kek

>>22884896
Just boil the blood of your enemies in the skull of your enemies.

>>22884893
I mean you see indians surviving just well and they drink quite dirty water. I have disinfecting tablets on top of that. As long as you avoid chemicals it should be fine, right?

>>22884805
This.
I'll just take what I need.

>>22884804 (OP)
>Each person needs atleast 5l water daily for survival.
bullshit
it depends what you do. you can go with even 500ml if you stay in a globalld
place doing nothing but sleeping all day.

>>22884804 (OP)
>shitskin
>filtration
fuck

>>22884900
wut?

>>22884899
post licence pasty

>>22884900
found the subhuman. what hand do you wipe with?

>>22884898
>disinfecting tablets
are
>chemicals
chemucal polution is not sothi g you shorterld be worry about, but the live mocroscopic parasites, bacteria in the water.
for some reason theese bastards do not survive in ground water.
so no matter how dirty it mught be getting a water from some freshly dig well is better than getting it from a still water lake, slow floating river.

>>22884905
it's alive! define umpire cattle dung

>>22884900
>>22884902

>you can go with even 500ml if you stay in a cold place doi g nothing but sleeping all day

>>22884907
but the off hand anon. who cleans delilah?

>>22884804 (OP)
I only drink milk, orange juice, beer/liquor and carbonated drinks. I have never in my life worried about water filtration because ruminant animals do that work for me.

>>22884898
Don't see others, see yourself. People get acclimated to their surroundings. Some people are unaffected by tasers, some feel no pain from pepper spray. But that's not a basis for decision making.

If you have disinfection tablets, that's good. With a cheapo filter only thing I could believe is that it will remove turbidity. But pathogens, giardia, protozoa etc. no I don't think these clones can remove them. Maybe they can, maybe they cannot but it's not enough to bet your life on.

The issue is not chinese. The issue is no brand. I cannot see a brand in your image. Many premium things like fenix, nitecore etc are made in china. But the brand gives the assurance of quality control. No name no brand products are just stock clearance of unfit, failed materials.

90% chances your filter is fake. You're in france, unlike me. You should have access to better, premium solutions starting from 25$ . Look into lifestraw and sawyer and if you hve money go mor US made MSR filters

>>22884900
Maybe if you're parasitic on others. But >foraging food
>Foraging water
>Thinking
>Walking a lot
>Lots of manual work
>Chopping wood etc
>Buffer storage
>Medical requirements
>Sweating

If you're actually trying to survive and working during an emergency scenario you'll need lots of water.

>>22884804 (OP)
>indian flag talking about clean water
this thread is peak clownworld

>>22884898
India wouldn't exist without popping ivermectin and antibiotic pills like candy.

>>22884804 (OP)
>clean water
>hygiene
>that flag
Tell me more anon

imagine being a subhuman and crowing about we was never slaves bruh

>>22884804 (OP)
I bought a lifestraw on amazon. a month after I got it, they sent me an e-mail saying that it was a fake, to throw it away, and they refunded the price I paid.
be careful with buying anything life-critical on amazon.
I am lucky that I didn't rely on that piece of shit for clean water and get killed.