Thread 22895721

For instance let's take rock and metal - UK, Germany or Sweden have done so much more and have much higher output compared to americans (Scorpions, Thin Lizzy, Whitesnake, UFO, Europe, Schenker, Malmsteen, Gary Moore) heavy/doom/power metal (Candlemass, Accept, King Diamond, Mercyful Fate. Blind Guardian, Running Wild, Gamma Ray, Stratovarius, Sonata Arctica, Rhapsody) or extreme metal (Bolt Thrower, Napalm Death, Bathory, Kreator, Opeth, Dissection, Emperor, Dismember, Edge of Sanity, Pestilence, Septic Flesh, Hypocrisy, Children Of Bodom, Gorefest, Nasum, Cripple Bastards, Agathocles, Mayhem, At the Gates, Sacramentum, Summoning, Katatonia, My Dying Bride, Paradise Lost, Falkenbach).

Electronic music - UK and Germany are the birthplaces of innovative electronic genres (new wave, industrial, techno, dnb, IDM, hardcore, downtempo, trip hop, glitch etc.).

Jazz - again, UK gave us McLaughlin, Holdsworth, Soft Machine, Bruford not to mention that many "american" musicians were raised in Europe such as Jan Hammer, Miroslav Vitous or Joe Zaniwul. Even pop music is far better than fake shit made in USA (ABBA, Kate Bush, Bjork).

European music feels more genuine and tied to its classical and native roots while american music is either gimmicky, immature, superficial, vulgar, degenerate, sexual, visually oriented or it's just another vehicle for propaganda and global trends. Why does American fall behind despite being richer and more influential? There's another aspect which american music is devoid of - elegance and sincerety. It's literally made for the sake of competition or cultural subversion.

Oh, and let's not even mention classical composers because USA doesn't even have one haha.

>>22895721 (OP)
90's Bjork was the peak of cuteness

Oh and american jazz is utter garbage.

You have to be high, deaf or degenerate to actually enjoy this nonsensical cacophony disguised as "spiritually elevating" music. It's fucking structureless schizophrenic crap with no sense of melody. I tried to listen to "Bitches Brew" (just because it had McLaughlin in the lineup) and I couldn't last for more than 3 minutes, absolute nonsense for people who are probably high during this moment.

If you want good jazz with a sense of melody there's good old gypsy jazz that doesn't even need drums, and bossa nova, ethno-jazz, jazz rock ala Focus, Mahavishnu Orchestra.

American jazz, funk, pop and rap are nothing more but psyops disguised as music.

Also, american rock and metal is so underwhelming compared to european. What does USA offer? Van Halen, Aerosmith, Bon Jovi, Guns n Roses, Alice Cooper, Metallica or god forbid - Nirvana? It's all shit and subpar compared to what UK or Sweden can offer. David Coverdale singlehandedly blows away all american vocalists while McLaughlin along with Holdsworth and Malmsteen wipes the floor with nearly any american guitarist including mediore players like Vai, Petrucci, Beck or Jimi Hendrix.

>>22895721 (OP)
>i only listen to noise music: the thread
I guess thats why Scandis and Balts never produced a single great classical composer. Youre all soulless androids. Your metal bands are simply an accessory for your boring, predictable, and commonplace personality.

What about actual European music like The Beatles, Led Zeppelin, the Cocteau Twins, Slowdive? Too “girly” for you, poseur faggot?

>>22895722

Absolutely. American mutts can only dream of having such talented cutie presenting the country.

>>22895723
Also, i hate niggers as much as the next guy, but ignoring Coltrane in your polemic against American musicians is peak casual. Listen to more music.

>>22895724

>let me tell you about your country

You lose, mutt. Learn something before making any statements

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arvo_P%C3%A4rt

>>22895727
>contemporary classical
Lmfao dumbass is citing film score writers as classical composers

OP you are completely unaware of entire American genres and scenes.

https://open.spotify.com/user/o1fvr3cd8f47h2fxhckf937es?si=m2sZECBAT1CG3YTzAekZrg

Check out 1993 -1997, I'd say more than half of each playlist is us based.

>>22895721 (OP)
>Electronic music - UK and Germany are the birthplaces of innovative electronic genres (new wave, industrial, techno, dnb, IDM, hardcore, downtempo, trip hop, glitch etc.).

Techno came out of Detroit fool, Trance came out of EU, and there wouldn't be Trance without Techno
by IDM you mean EDM which is not a genre, more of a category

>>22895721 (OP)
This is a pretty high quality bait thread with a lot of effort OP. I appreciate it. If you adjust per the numbers per capita, I will concede that a few countries like probably UK and Germany have higher amounts of pioneering rock/metal artists per capita. But you have to be absolutely delusional to ignore all the pioneering and influential bands that came out of the US. You even go out of your way to name drop extreme metal groups and conveniently ignore the florida death metal scene which is full of bands that are seminal and essential to the genre.

>>22895723
>good old gypsy jazz that doesn't even need drums, and bossa nova, ethno-jazz, jazz rock ala Focus, Mahavishnu Orchestra
Uh Mahavishnu Orchestra is American. If you want to talk about jazz, most of the pioneering jazz acts are all American. The greatest jazz bassist ever, Jaco Pastorius, whom influenced literally everyone that came after him is also America.

It looks like a schitty

>>22895722
Don't let her cuteness possess you, she casts evil spells with her cuteness that makes people go crazy and kill themselves

If someone walks up to you and tries to cast a spell on you, RUN!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fireR5ILxKk4

>>22895723
Malmsteens very good but Vai mediocre.. cmon

>>22895721 (OP)
>Europe
It’s really just the UK

>>22895730
Yeah, Detroit techno was cool af. a lot of good modern music in general came out of the UK and US. Europe was at its best about 250-300 years ago. Today it just seem to put out faggoty europop shit.

>>22895723
>Beck
Jeff Beck was English. I bet now you're going to do a 180 and suddenly claim he's better than American guitarists.

>>22895738
nothing to do with his britishness but my band's producer swears up and down that Jeff Beck is the greatest guitarist to ever live.

>>22895724
>Scandis and Balts never produced a single great classical composer.
Sibelius was pretty damn good for orchestral music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAFouzo3ZHQ&list=RDFAFouzo3ZHQ&index=2

>>22895721 (OP)
It's not. It's all these buzzes, clicks, horn noise, and then a lot of other stupid electric guitar shit. Like, Bon Jovi. I fucking hate Bon Jovi's music, and I hated it before he ever said anything political. Basically, Tavistock makes this shitty music to scramble the brains of the public. So, you have to be careful what you let into your ears.

>>22895739
He was a great rock guitarist, no doubt.

>>22895739
>swears up and down that Jeff Beck is the greatest guitarist to ever live.
Im a fan of Leo Kottke, another fine American Motherplucker. 6 and 12 string guitar is one of the best non-vocal albums around.

>>22895741
>I fucking hate Bon Jovi's music
He's the epitome of boring, corporate, middle-of-the-road 1980s American poprock.

There can be good American poprock. Fastball, for instance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qV3ntUUaRRA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjMxIHB6up8

>>22895743
I'm just a dumb bass player, I'll take your word for it.

>>22895743
That's a great album, maybe the best ever in that genre.

>>22895745
im sure you are better at playing an instrument than i'll ever be. but check out that album if you like. blew my mind the first time i heard it and its never gotten old. seemed like there was 2 or 3 guys playing

Americans have very unique and talented black/death metal bands. When they do shit seriously, with passion, I would not underestimate them. While many European bands are extremely gay and clownish.

>>22895746
Tracks 1!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VugyHZ40AU

>>22895721 (OP)
>King Diamond, Mercyful Fate
These are the same you disingenuous fag

>>22895723
>hurr jazz is bad because I'm a retard
Kill yourself with your fucking hair metal butt rock you dad rock nigger

>>22895746
actually no, thats track 6. this is track one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Bt0SlU7HeM

>>22895733
Ricardo was weak

>>22895753
Saved

>>22895753
Glad the autistic chick from napoleon dynamite found more work

>>22895721 (OP)
Scorpions fucking sucks dick noggha . Boomer rock and power metal isn't music. Pestilence and rock era Katatonia might be the greatest music with electric guitars, but never understood Scorpions. Don't even get me started on King Diamond

>>22895744
>>22895741
>t. Kissless virgins
Rainy night and we worked all day
We both got jobs 'cause there's bills to pay
We got something they can't take away
Our love, our lives

Close the door, leave the cold outside
I don't need nothing when I'm by your side
We got something that'll never die
Our dreams, our pride

My heart beats like a drum (all night)
Flesh to flesh, one to one (and it's alright)
And I'll never let go 'cause
There's something I know deep inside

You were born to be my baby
And baby, I was made to be your man

We got something to believe in
Even if we don't know where we stand
Only God would know the reasons
But I bet he must have had a plan
'Cause you were born to be my baby
And baby, I was made to be your man

Light a candle, blow the world away
Table for two on a TV tray
It ain't fancy, baby that's ok
Our time, our way

So hold me close better hang on tight
Buckle up, baby, it's a bumpy ride
We're two kids hitching down the road of life
Our world, our fight

If we stand side by side (all night)
There's a chance we'll get by (and it's alright)
And I'll know that you'll be live
In my heart till the day that I die

'Cause you were born to be my baby
And baby, I was made to be your man

We got something to believe in
Even if we don't know where we stand
Only God would know the reasons
But I bet he must have had a plan

'Cause you were born to be my baby
And baby, I was made to be your man

>>22895749
I take it back. That isn't maybe the best album ever in that genre. It DEFINITELY IS the best album ever in that genre.

>>22895721 (OP)
Half these bands were aping American musicians
>Germans singing the language of their occupiers with American accent
>European music

>>22895721 (OP)
How did a spic with massive Gyno get into a one sided suicide pact with the biggest Eskimo nigger on Earth?

>>22895746
Last one, but it always makes me think its like the US anthem or something. Really, the whole album for me is a modern 'Music from the New World' by Dvorak or something. its perfect.

Happy 4th to you guys for tomorrow btw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2lLPsvgPyQ

>>22895721 (OP)
Bjork is from Iceland which is part of North America

>>22895725
Representing?

>>22895764
She literally has fetal alcohol syndrome

>>22895752
American instrumental folk music at its absolute finest. 11/10!

>>22895765
clearly its not always a bad thing. maybe it depends on what she was drinking.

>>22895721 (OP)
Fuck off we got Elvis who you got to match him?

>>22895721 (OP)
Who is this chink?

>>22895758
Wow, you've totally converted me. How could I have been so wrong?

>>22895721 (OP)
>Why is european music superior to american?
Amerimutts are completely judaised and negrified. Simple as.

>>22895762
Thanks, leaffren.

>>22895771
you're half a nigger, jeet

>>22895768
I noticed he left a whole slew of names out of his list on purpose
Elvis
Johnny cash
Marty Robbins
Garth Brooks
Jellyroll
Meatloaf
Metallica
Dio
Michael Jackson
Jimmy Hendrix
Weird Al
Slayer
White zombie
Megadeth
Queen
Biggy smalls
Red hot chili peppers
Aerosmith
Prince
Poison
Dead or Alive
The california raisins
Smashing pumpkins
Alice in chains
Pearl jam
Soundgarden

To list a few

Also OP, that faggot, pathetic, worthless Estonian forgot to mention TYPE O NEGATIVE, Judas Priest or Man O War(the absolute best battle hymns)

If you all don't know who Manowar is, let me introduce you to the most powerful song I have ever heard besides Forever by queen
https://youtu.be/ebiccmDl8rA?si=A4RzJxD7ceJtJrcu

After you listen to the above linked song your outlook on life and music will never be the same

>>22895731

>pioneering and influential bands that came out of the US

They're all shit and mediocre compared to european counterparts. American death metal is worse than swedish/dutch, american power metal is worse than swedish/finnish, american grindcore/brutal death is worse than dutch and german and americans can't even play black metal. That's why they bastardize genres by creating glam, nu rap metal, -cores.

>Mahavishnu Orchestra is American.

Founded by a british guy, he did 90% of the work. Also another is czech.

> Jaco Pastorius

Sloppy and horrible

>>22895735

He's shit. Listen to his horrible noodling in Whitesnake, even early Whitesnake had better solos. He' s a technical version of Satriani who's also shit. Compare him to Kee Marcello of Europe who obliterates him in terms of phrasing and technique.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSy8DEMu6ho&pp=ygUSa2VlIG1hcmNlbGxvIHNvbG9z

>>22895738

My bad, but he's really weak along with Clapton. But there were many phenomenal UK guitarists such as Ollie HalsaL, Roy Buchanan, Gary Boyle.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ot9aquVmsYQ&list=RDot9aquVmsYQ&start_radio=1&pp=ygUQbW9uZXkgYmFnIGhhbHNhbKAHAQ%3D%3D

>>22895748

Bullshit. Europe is superior. Just find me anything american that comes close to this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-CuXRoY3cs&list=RDB-CuXRoY3cs&start_radio=1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3is25mXtyY8&list=RD3is25mXtyY8&start_radio=1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5d3bSji41A&list=RDp5d3bSji41A&start_radio=1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5zQah8--dQ&list=RDL5zQah8--dQ&start_radio=1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmzYirTcvIM&list=RDlmzYirTcvIM&start_radio=1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQ19L72uaKo&list=RDpQ19L72uaKo&start_radio=1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6biLTo1fhQ&list=RDo6biLTo1fhQ&start_radio=1

Also americans have zero idea how to play black metal. They're pathologically unable to do it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vX73HGIVf8Y&list=RDvX73HGIVf8Y&start_radio=1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFR0uK_SV_c&list=RDJFR0uK_SV_c&start_radio=1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQ19L72uaKo&list=RDpQ19L72uaKo&start_radio=1

>>22895775
judas priest are bongs. why are you posting in this thread anyway? no one that knows anything about music would ever post such a thing. the usa is permanently at the top

>>22895773
Triggered judaised and negrified mutt is triggered.
Many such cases

>>22895777
black metal the shittiest genre around

>>22895775
>Queen
Fuck off nigger

>>22895779
I'm actually from Britain, unlike you

>>22895775
Also
>Judas Priest
Stfu you tarded mutt groid

>>22895776
>Just find me anything american that comes close to this.
>posts absolute disharmonized garbage
I could find better music strangling some cats.

>>22895721 (OP)
>Björk
fuck yeah

>>22895721 (OP)
I’m glad you enjoy your music, but I think most of those bands suck. Your third mentioned band is white snake? I would say this was a troll thread but I think you’re serious. Jesus dude. Also bjork looks doofy

>>22895721 (OP)
>looks Asian
>is actually Icelandic
The fuck is going on up there

>>22895778
Nigger I didn't claim Judas was an American band, that's why it's separated on the list you fucking retard
>>22895781
>Mad cause jealous
>>22895783
>Also mad because gay

>>22895782
>I'm actually from Britain
Sure you are Manuel

>>22895721 (OP)
That's a man

>>22895776
>calling the entirety of classic flordian and new york death metal shit and mediocre
>calling Jaco sloppy and horrible
nice bait m8

>>22895786
What's hilarious is 80% of the bands he listed nobody has ever heard of

>>22895788
Queen are BRITISH you cunt as are Judas Priest
Retarded fucking mutt

>>22895721 (OP)
>Why is european music superior to american?
GEE I DUNNO MAYBE TRY ASKING THE FUCKING MUSIC BOARD YOU RETARDED NEWFAG >>>/mu/

>>22895788
you're a gay retard and low iq and the problem for bumping this shit thread you little faggot bitch. i'd snap your fucking neck

>>22895791
Op avoided Slayer and White Zombie because he knew he couldn't compete in any death metal if those two were mentioned
He tried to rig the lineup

>>22895721 (OP)
>UK, Germany or Sweden have done so much more and have much higher output compared to americans

Jimi Hendrix and Eddie Van Halen were both Americans and were both far more innovative and inspiring than any Eurotrash guitarist you could mention.

>>22895721 (OP)
Tomorrow the Brits save rock music. Again.

>>22895797
Well those aren't death metal.. but OP conveniently ignored the US thrash scene which is obviously one of the most important metal scenes ever.

>>22895794
He was born in Zanzibar nice try faggot

>>22895799
Cope leaf
Malmsteen eats both for breakfast
Who's the wench?

>>22895775
Are you trying to support OP's argument?

>>22895796
Lol bitch you can't fight pussy ass nigger post arm with timestamp little troon zoomie

>>22895802
ALL members are ethnically English except Freddy who was ethnically Persian but brought up in England as a British citizen.

deus does not exist

Americans also lost the ability to make videogames. Its a sign of a multispectral decline, culturally, socially, even biologically.

>>22895803
malmsteen is soulless technical slop. no one's favorite guitarist is fucking malmsteen

>>22895805
why are you still talking, you dumb bitch?

>>22895721 (OP)
>thinks European music is better than American music
>fails to name even a single good band or artist
>thinks Soft Machine is Jazz

>>22895725
I don't think that you get to mock America if you speak English and live in America's orbit

>>22895806
>ethnically English
LMAO

>>22895810
>Won't post arm
Aww little niglet scared

>>22895721 (OP)
So what yurofags have to offer as it pertains to country music?

They can compete somewhat with Florida death metal, I can give them that.

Otherwise meh.

>>22895809
>malmsteen is soulless technical slop.
Lol. Lmao.
>hurr durr technical ability is soulless guise
You sound like a fucking nigger

>>22895761
did he not know Asia exists?

>>22895721 (OP)
I dont even check where my music is coming from. Sometimes you can tell but I don't care that much hahaha. I'm pretty sure you don't make swamp blues though. I like all music really, except electronic.

>>22895808
the usa invented video games, created all the genres, perfected them then retired. a european is incapable of creating deus ex or system shock except maybe pre bethesda arkane studios. a european could never conceptualize doom and quake. all europeans can do is make samey soulless survival craft slop that only autistic children on steam play

>>22895787
She probably has some Inuit or Sami ancestry.

>>22895813
Yes. All Queen members are Englishmen by blood except for the Persian and honorary - Freddy.

>>22895721 (OP)
Hip-hop > any other genre
And that shi was made in the U.S. get your eurotrash outta here lmaooo

>>22895791

I've heard his playing, he's really sloppy. Especially live.

There are much better examples out there such as Bunny brunel, Tetsuo Sakurai

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLq4WRB_IVs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUYJj-uDnuU
>>22895797

>Slayer

Sloppy shitty thrash. Kreator, Destruction did it way better.

>White Zombie

Haha, are you even real, you might as well list Marilyn Manson and call it heavy.

>>22895801

>US thrash scene

Garbage compared to Kreator, Destruction, Coroner, Artillery, Protector, Celtic Frost, Deathrow, Holy Moses etc.

>>22895821
>Englishmen by blood

>>22895824
>picrel
Looks like your new FBI director.

>>22895823
>Kreator, Destruction did it way better.
they didn't and wouldn't exist without slayer. go ahead and talk shit about slayer when kreator or destruction is opening for them and see what happens. you would get your twink teeth kicked in, you fucking poser

>>22895830
you're*
>>22895824
>grotesque image

i'm so happy

>>22895849
>you're*
How embarrassing

>>22895858
i thouight you said "your the new FBI director"
iu misread it

>>22895862
To err is human. To forgive is what christniggers do.

>>22895740
Also Nielsen wrote some terrific symphonies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oC7iWFMNny4

>>22895867
hmmm...