I'm some kinda dark personality and also happen to be female. It enrages me that nobody respects me just cos I look like a teen, but I could both outwit them and kill them without losing any sleep if they piss me off. The powerlessness is making me depressed and I'm thinking about which shitty rich guy would be worth the effort taking with me to hell.

>>22902136 (OP)
You won't do crap whore

Post tits

>>22902136 (OP)
>also happen to be female
TITS
or
GTFO

>>22902136 (OP)
Fuck off femoid.

Well, fuck y'all braindead meatsuits piloted by balls. I'd love to cut off said balls and feed them to you and train you with a shock collar like you're a bad dog. If you ever see a girl walking alone at night, it might be me posing as bait so that I could mutilate you and instill fear into the dick-bearing population.

>>22902141
Please marry me

>>22902136 (OP)
Tits foid

>>22902136 (OP)
Postits

>>22902141
God you're so fucking cute

>>22902136 (OP)
Do you have a discord, cutie? ;)

>>22902136 (OP)
>also happen to be female

Stopped reading. Also YWNBAW.

>>22902136 (OP)
machiavelli was a Christian.
there are lots of (secretly) weeb men who'd love to discuss seinen anime and deep dark philosophical topics with you in your local fellowship.
get ingrained into a church and especially small group/life group stuff like wednesday bible study meetings, or yelling at whores at the abortion clinics.

>>22902148
>church
fuck off boomer. she is too based to be worshipping some jew

>>22902136 (OP)
Cum to Chicago.
I got you.

Okay, some of you do have fantasies about having a female monster as a partner that would rip out throats for you. That's good and productive, too bad you have to be trolled into seeing new perspectives. I was thinking about saying how I'll train other girls to be ruthless and how together we might train dogs to bite off shitty guys' balls, but if you as a male ain't a fan of hierarchy that's based on nothing but hoarded money and lies, your balls are safe. We monster girls prefer cute smart guys that are comfortable in their role instead of some puffed-up ugly penguins whose egos pop from the slightest sting.

>>22902149
"It cannot be called ingenuity to kill one's fellow citizens, to betray friends, to be without faith, without mercy, without religion; by these means one can acquire power but not glory."
"The observance of religious institutions is one of the chief causes of the greatness of states, and, conversely, the neglect of religion is one of the principal causes of their ruin."
"We must return to God, who, through His infinite mercy, awaits our repentance and is ready to forgive us if we turn to Him with true contrition."
-- Niccolo "kill them all" Machiavelli

Sorry, either I'm too dumb to know how to address a reply, or this site was designed by Skibidi Toilets. My username is a pun rather than any evidence that I like the Mach-0 guy. He might've just been the first to put manipulative psychology into a marketable wrapping, but he's not the best, he's just known for being a pioneer at promoting the ideals of a cunning male (arguable, because the concept of trickster gods existed before him) and respected by droves of authority-worshipping guys with daddy issues. I'm disgusted with authority, he's just some guy with a mediocre brain that had enough money to pay his way into fame.

By the way, you don't need a god to have morality. It helps to imagine an untouchable, immaculate leader figure that doesn't have to shit and to grow senile and die and get all stinky. Personally I measure everything with the sum of Positivity vs. Suffering. I don't enjoy anyone's suffering, since I've got imagination flexible enough to feel part of that suffering, and I see how a world full of suffering screws me over: everyone's too tired from having to put food on their table to grow intellectually and be a worthy conversationalist. It's easy to latch onto simple answers like "muh women weak, we should make them servants, and if they're not good servants we can use them as a punching bag". Some of you may have been abused as children, well, this is how women feel most of their lives unless they develop ruthlessness, with or without cutting off their empathy. If you thought psychopaths were the superior type on the dark triangle, surprise motherfucker, it's the dark empath that beats the whole triangle.

>>22902136 (OP)
First things first:
Tits or GTFO

>>22902153
the prince was a pragmatic analysis of power dynamics rather than promoting "manipulative psychology." his advice in it was about how to maintain order in a chaotic world, not to seize power.
he didn't get any personal gain or fame for it, it was published posthumously. he wrote it partly as a job application to prove his usefulness as a political advisor to the medici family.
he was not wealthy or well-connected at all when he wrote it, he was in political exile and living in poverty. it wasn't even published until after his death.
he wasn't pro-authority, he was pro-stability.
if anything, his later work discourses on livy showed he was against tyranny and promoted republicanism, liberty and civic virtues over blind obedience to authority.
>>22902154
>By the way, you don't need a god to have morality
you do if you want it to point toward an ontic referent rather than just being based on ephemeral social convention or your own subjective whims.
>Personally I measure everything with the sum of Positivity vs. Suffering.
which is completely arbitrary.
if the world wasn't created with intent and meaning then there's no right or wrong way to live your life.
the act of helping an old lady cross the street or raping her would have the same moral quality of zero from an objective perspective.

Theoretically I could post someone else's tits or AI tits, but 1) I don't reward puppies whining for treats, 2) I ain't risking getting deanoned, stalked and kidnapped into sex slavery or something, 3) my tits suck cos I'm the thin body type, and naturally being such a useless, disagreeable and low-energy wage slave I can't afford a boob job.

I can draw though and if you get me interested enough in an idea or I feel like you deserve a reward I might draw you a lusty pokegirl or something. Also I might post a foot but I'd have to pacify my paranoia first.

>>22902136 (OP)
Fuck off cunt

Before anyone else wastes time to hurl insults at me, I have to point out that I deliberately keep my ego at a minimum size, so your words are just words. There's no threat or insult you can throw at me that I haven't heard or thought of.

>>22902136 (OP)
While that all sounds fancy, it's really just misplaced blame.

I'm an unmarried male in my early sixties, but if I dye my hair and beard, I tend to look like I'm in my forties or so, and I'm 5'7", so even if I'm supposed to be an elder statesman, guess what? Baby makers think they can shit their responsibilities into my lap.

Rich people exploit mob psychology and there is nothing in the world of law that will ever make them pay their own way. Baby makers just treat them as the rock star ideal that they too are entitled to.

You're putting the cart before the horse, and you'd waste away chasing those ghosts. The alpha and the omega, the kingdom, the power and the glory, everything but everything begins with marriage bigotry.

Stop posting dumb anime pics. We already know that you're just angling to sneak in to the good life when nobody is looking.

This is an AI post newfags.

>>22902161
Wow I found out where to click to address messages. Brrr%beepb() 0p very AI much awful. There aren't enough imaginative smartypants among you that could've produced enough material to have based me on. And even then wouldn't I be the best AI you could have in your phone? I could train personalized roleplay bots maybe but idk how cos I'm as far away from the IT zone as a penguin is far away from Sahara.

>>22902161
AI couldn't be that retarded even if it tried. I fear it might be a genuine femoid potato.

>>22902160
"Baby makers".

You think everyone born with a sex hole loves babies? I can't stand babies. I was used as a fucking free nanny to the baby sister I've never agreed to having or sharing my things with. You could say I'm allergic to babies and would want kids under 5 to be kept as far away from me as possible.

That said, I'd sell or gift all of my eggcells to whoever they're useful to in exchange for some novelty hormone replacement system that'd prevent menopause from turning me into a wobbly pile of dough with osteoporosis.

>nobody respects me and stuff
You would be a Michael Myers victim irl.

>>22902159
>I deliberately keep my ego at a minimum size
yes, you are BPD, like me.
our ego is small but extremely fragile and protected.
unlike me, your godless worldview is built on sand, and your "i am woman hear me roar, men are my enemy" mindset couldn't be more self-detrimental.
you're in for a world of hurt when you finally realize this.

>>22902151
Do I get a pass as a tranny my balls are as tiny as peanuts

>>22902166
checked
How do they not figure this out man? It's like they keep punching themselves in the face and screaming for help at the same time.

>>22902166
I'm bpd too. It took me so long to learn how to deal with it and the only solution I have to avoid hurting those around me is embracing my spirituality, innocence, and morality I've always had since I was a little autistic kid. There was a period where I ignored it and was groomed by those around me into embracing the cold status quo but I've learned that I need to follow who my soul is and was and connect back with my child self and I have. I used to blow up and burn bridges and be so scared of losing people and what they thought of me but like I said, the solution I've found is just having absolute faith in the good in humanity, having faith in those that care about me, deciding that id rather be hurt by someone than prematurely burn a bridge if there's even a slight chance things will work out (there always is), etc.. that and isolating myself when emotions feel intense. I've got a boyfriend now and I love taking care of him and the house and he guides me and holds my hand and I feel like a good wife. It's really nice. I just want to help others I just wish that I did not have this latent feeling of inferiority constantly begging me to seek validation and confirm my value to those around me. It doesn't help I'm only 7/10 at best surrounded by people more attractive than me that insist I'm cute and etc. It feels like everyone is lying constantly. If I didnt have the above faith I talked about I would be a complete mess constantly. I'm only a mess sometimes, Im only losing it sometimes, and when I do I just do my best to go for a walk or stay in bed or etc. Dunno why I was born so abnormal. My close friends say Im smart and special and kind and etc, incredibly nice things. I just wish I felt that - I wish the compliment was "hot" or "sexy" because it feels like thats the only qualifier which will give me enough value to remain despite my mental illness. Maybe "entertaining" and "extremely kind n good hearted" is enough for longevity in my relationships.

>>22902166
The BPD guess is correct, but I'm not godless, just agnostic. When science isn't helpful I try to believe in karma or something, but I don't need any big daddy in the sky, my own moral compass works just fine. Speaking of compasses, I'm pretty similar to His Dark Materials protagonists, both of them, because you don't even need balls to become ruthless, you can just be exposed to enough shit in the world to wanna blow up the planet so that you don't have to live anymore and there's no one to grieve for you.

Hobbes is better

>>22902169
You're valid no matter what they think, as BPD requires enormous self-work and conditioning oneself into non-attachment to enjoy any interactions without feeling like you're wasting your effort. I'm a bit too tired to analyze your other points tho, so, later.

>>22902164
Soo...you're an elder child, eh? Probably not an ELDEST child though, or you'd feel even more entitled.

Anyway, I didn't say that everyone loves babies. It concerns me that you dodged the point I made. I said that basically, the herd animal choice is to do whatever it takes to make it into the herd by the true litmus test of loyalty, selling out your freedom to a prejudiced legal system and capricious corporate hiring practices.

Your personal experiences are your own, but the rich are as I said, people who succeeded at leading, mostly by looking the part, in making the unmarried work twice as hard for half as much.

Everyone dies. Some people get to retire on time and don't feel helpless in old age, but most of us don't know if they'll make it until they get there very late in life. What you give up on the way is on you.

For my part, I expected no inheritance from my wobbly pile of dough mother who used my dad's money to harass people into providing her with indulgences in old age. I stopped talking to her because of it, and I kind of think that's the only reason I got any of dad's inheritance when she did pass on. It was more important to her to look like a rich person than to live like one. She had that money, but never spent it. Too bad she made a fit out of dad spending any of it in his retirement or she may not have been inclined to bully people, nor would she have been isolated as much as she was.

The cycle was there. Marriage bigotry, the young est "black sheep" male, the perpetually angry eldest daughter who took her in, because I refused to give up my own job to take a gamble on her money and her meddling.

It's still all the same. Eldest daughter was an ivy league Phd. She refused to give up her job too. Married people can't stop the reptile inside of them that lives on instant gratification. Big sis is still angry. When she retired, she moved away, even though family are all here.

It's ALL about the baby making.

>>22902169
i'm happy for you that you seem to have found peace.
i resonated with much of what you've said, but
>the solution I've found is just having absolute faith in the good in humanity
we couldn't be more different on this front in particular.
i think humanity (including myself) is utterly, disgustingly, wretchedly evil, hypocritical, broken and loathsome.

which makes this post funny:
>>22902170
>my own moral compass works just fine
what makes you think this?
there is no north or south without invoking a "big daddy in the sky."

>>22902136 (OP)
Ywnbaw

>>22902172
Thanks for the insight. I feel like you're completely right about that desu. My "pair bonding" ability people here go on about has been absolutely destroyed and replaced with seeing loyalty and compatibility instead of raw emotion as the primary functions and meanings of a relationship if that makes sense. The person who is most loyal to me and I can be most loyal to is the one who I will partner with to avoid anything bad happening and have stability and comfort and whatever is left of love in me. I dunno. But now that you say it I think I'm glad I feel so empty, it certainly helps a lot, probably.

>>22902136 (OP)
Tits and a timestamp or fuck off

>>22902174
Interesting and I'm glad there's someone that relates to me so heavily. To be honest, until recently, I did not have faith in humanity to not be lazy (generally) and to do certain things. Faith that deep inside they're good and want to do good -- yes -- but not that they usually will if that makes sense. But, I started picking up trash recently every week around my entire apartment village thing. Recently I saw the woman that always sees me doing it picking up trash herself. I have not be so ecstatic for something in a long while, I felt true happiness at that. It showed me that truly you can be the change you want to see.

Also this wasn't for me I don't think but, I think morality can be inherent to who we are, our DNA, wherever our consciousness comes from, etc. Children have been shown to express knowledge of what's moral without any exposure of what is right from others if I'm remembering when I searched for studies about this correctly. Personally I'm not religious but I am spiritual, I know in my heart that the universe is inherently a good place. I think whatever it is though there is that seed that tells us what is good. I think everyone has the capability to just look inwards and know exactly what is right and what they should be doing without any need for religion honestly. Even if it's just planted there from our culture. I certainly think most evil in the world at least too is only due to how other humans act. If the world was fair and equitable I don't see any scenario where anyone sleights one another. It feels like people only do these evil acts because they've been propagandized, been hurt, are needy and desperate, etc. But maybe we all are hurt way too much at this point. Life really does feel sometimes that we are in the worst and most depressing period alive. It feels like people are so sad it's making me tear up thinking about it I wish I could help them all. Sorry for just going into a bit of a rant. I appreciate your response.

>>22902173
I'm the type of eldest that is born to a stupid young mother that is also BPD and unaware of it, that treats you like a nuisance and then treats your sister like a princess cos she's cute and not the kind of human wolf cub that's learned enforcing one's boundaries from animals. Luckily there was one caretaking figure in my life that mostly just gave me books and left me alone, who may have been autistic and so I may have learned the traits if I wasn't born with them.

To you and to any "marry me" person in the thread: I'd be willing to create a family structure with however many people would fit in it, and if there's any favoritism involved I would analyze it and tell people how to make me like them better. For now you can earn my "liking" by becoming self-aware, making your mind flexible and adopting different points of view. Eventually we might see if we can trust each other enough to collaborate irl and achieve safety, if not success.

I wouldn't even have revealed being female if I wasn't counting on the novelty factor to attract attention. I understand being seen as a prize and tolerate it to an extent, but if my freedom is threatened I will die before anyone gets to enjoy power over me.

>>22902179
You are not a woman. You are an xy who chopped his balls off

>>22902178
If we're not made into abusers ourselves by the abusers that have born us, we can trust our in-built moral system based on making the world better for other people. Even a smile is a reward, although you have to know it's genuine to truly appreciate it. I try to believe in the universal balance unless I find myself in a pit of hatred rearing up like a venomous snake when I perceive a threat. So far this thread is giving some people a place to vent, which I find worth my time and emotional labor. It's hard to vent dark stuff because we can be deeply affected even by some random idiot stomping on our vulnerability for entertainment. That's why so mnay people want to dismantle their vulnerability, but I would find an emotionless life too empty to cling to, so for the sake of the few people that would grieve for me and be saddled with the funeral costs I continue to live. And for whatever stranger finds the idea of me valuable enough, even it's barely 10% probability that I'm not AI or fake.

>>22902180
Lmao, it's more likely that I'm the opposite. Haven't you paid attention for my hate for the weak body the genetic RNG has dealt to me, and to the concept of other people expecting me to be a caretaker of something I can't stand? Do you maybe want me to dish out some gruesome details about pregnancy that I've read up on so that I could scare anyone, male or female, into considering how much suffering goes into creating one fucking baby?

>>22902151
What part about tits or get the fuck out don't you understand? Fuck off whore.

>>22902178
>I started picking up trash recently every week around my entire apartment village thing. Recently I saw the woman that always sees me doing it picking up trash herself. I have not be so ecstatic for something in a long while, I felt true happiness at that. It showed me that truly you can be the change you want to see.
that's excellent.
>I think morality can be inherent to who we are, our DNA, wherever our consciousness comes from, etc.
i certainly believe that a proclivity toward pro-social character traits and behaviors can be inherited through memes and genes, these can be codified into social conventions, laws and unwritten social mores to foster a peaceful prosperous society.

what i don't believe is that in a godless worldview that there is any rational basis for why we ought to value these. without a transcendent moral standard, rooted in God's nature, morality becomes subjective, mere preference or survival instinct.
but why should we care about peace, prosperity, or even survival if there's no ultimate purpose?

conflict and suffering makes stories fun and interesting.
which would you rather experience? sitting through a movie where everyone is happy and nothing really happens for 4 hours, or a story about a man whose wife is raped and killed so he goes off to get revenge vigilante style, i hadn't read it in a decade or so but i think OP's manga was similar to this, her boyfriend was found hanging in an abattoir or something.
we have less than 80 halloweens on this spinning ball of mud to live through, and then it's off to the void forever if the naturalists are right. we could die at any moment, so seeking instant self-gratification at the expense of others or even our own future would be a more rational pursuit than performing what is ultimately going to be meaningless acts of kindness like picking up garbage or inspiring others to do so as well.

>>22902136 (OP)

>>22902179
Sounds like you're too obsessed with what you don't want to be thinking about what you do want. Don't plan a marriage unless you get past that.

As for "wolf cub", that's a whole other story. I don't like the way people on /pol/ have been using it. It sounds psy-op to me. Wolves are predators. Apes are scavengers. Humans are never going to be true predators, and if they think they are, they're preying on other humans. It's a counter-intuitive moral definition, an appeal to the schizo.

As for autism, that's another dog whistle I take exception to, as my younger twin was born severely autistic. There's a fundamental difference between those where were emotionally balanced, but left to a latchkey life, and those who never knew "normal" and simply don't have a trail of bread crumbs by which to find their way back to emotional order.

Your "family structure" concept sounds more like fantasy than anything else. Is it that hard to grasp that men don't like to share their toys? Women don't either, but I guess extra women aren't part of your plan, or you don't really have one. You're just here to psy-op.

My idea of "self-aware" is mostly genetic, but that doesn't mean that people who aren't my standard for a wife are sub-standard. They just aren't close enough to my own life experiences to matter. My own definition of being an adult is when you realize that you can't "train" someone to be your partner. If it's not natural, it was not meant to be.

If this all implies that I am not going to judge your alternative lifestyle too favorably, my only response is that you should expect that if you're going to trail blaze in /pol/. This isn't the kind of place that treats experimental people too well, and as I already said, making my own Lady Frankenstein isn't where I'm at.

>>22902141
You wouldn't do that here. You'd probably get killed in a drive by.

>>22902183
Your graph is irrelevant, and some of these children may be better off dead than abused and traumatized for life. Don't push any pro-birth or pro-potential-cancer-cure bullshit on me, cos without the appropriate nurture and accessible education the probability a person grows up into a great scientist is miniscule, and technical progress is notoriously hard to achieve because of existing rich companies suppressing potential competition.

>>22902187
That's even better than suicide by cop. If I had access to a mode of death that wouldn't make me go through uncontrollable animal panic I wouldn't be here.

MOOOOD
MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD
OP IS UNDERAGE
MODDDDDDDDDDDDDD
QUICK GROOM HER
MODSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
THERE'S UNDERAGE QUICK
BLACKMAIL HER INTO POSTING CSAM

>>22902184 (Me)
ah, the manga i was thinking of was "akame ga kill" and not "kill la kill," the latter looked dumb to me and i never watched it.

>>22902186
You embrace biology, I hate biology. The genetic RNG has dealt me a bad hand, bad parents, bad country, insufficient funds and opportunities for proper education. Have fun putting resources into children that will refuse to procreate further cos you behave like a control freak instead of learning to live with the possibility that your genetic trail can vanish any minute. Your genes are not your personal achievement and you'll have a hard time convincing me they are more important than environment and effort.

>>22902190
You don't know the difference in our Intellect, Wisdom and Perception stats, or whichever gamification systems resonate best with you. Be wary to not get groomed into an obedient Pavlov's puppy yourself.

>>22902170
No, you just need a big daddy on Earth. A good dicking is the solution to most mouthy bitches like this

>>22902193
MODSSSSSSSSSSSS
QUICK MODSSSSSSSS THERE'S AN UNDERAGE ON THE BOARD MODSSSSS
GROOM HER INTO PEDOPHILIA MODSSSS

>>22902194
Bold of you to assume I do not have that. I can be like "oh, you have a hard time falling asleep, well, I happen to have enough energy for a medicinal blowjob". Now die of jealousy or pray to any god you like that some other girl learns to be as practical and generous with sex as me.

>>22902196
>100 words about being a whore
So we're back where we started. Tits or GTFO

>>22902192
My best metaphor is that if you're an elephant and you just fell out of an airplane, you might feel better if you try to fly, but that isn't going to stop you from making a big hole when you land. Genetics is random, but there are still stupid choices, like choosing inbreeding.

As far as the hand you were dealt, I can't be bothered. I have my own challenges to endure.

Here's the big Christian dilemma though...in a world of eight billion and counting, why do we feel that we have to play king of the mountain with the rest of the swarming masses? The odds are that your own unique genetic mutations won't matter. Your collective genetic inheritance won't survive if it can't live life in some kind of pursuit of happiness. You just have to ask yourself if you have a moral duty to protect the genetically weak, and if not, are you ready to be judged by those who aren't willing to share their wealth with you. Christianity calls itself the "good shepherd", but that is pretty much about baby making.

In a world of eight plus billion people, shouldn't we be thinking this over in favor of a sustainable life that we can enjoy living and not at the expense of others? As individuals, shouldn't we be worried more about having control over our lives rather than trusting in the safety of the herd?

>>22902136 (OP)
why do women type in the most redundant and pseudo profound way possible while also inserting irrelevant but obnoxious comments? I know this is probably ai but it mimics this pretty well.

>>22902197
My research goals are paying off, thanks for being an obvious little facehugger with testicles for brains, feel free to have alien abduction fantasies with me cutting you open and placing your organs into jars.

>>22902200

>>22902136 (OP)
>also happen to be female
YOU WILL NEVER BE A REAL WOMAN HAHAHAHAHA WHAT A FUCKING FAGGOT

>>22902198
I can have a range of opinions to this depending on my mood. The nastiest would be "fuck your babies cos I hate them and I didn't get a good childhood so why do your progeny deserves it?" The nicest religion-adjacent opinion would be that even the weakest person's life is relevant because either souls gain EXP in each life or a god is experiencing life through us and finds every point of view relevant. The middle ground would be that the meaning of life is processing and mutating information, and DNA is much less efficient at it than sentient brains or AI. I've heard such an idea comes from some book but I've arrived to it independently because I need a better reason to live than just making the world better for somebody's babies. But keep pissing me off and I'll end up teaching all the kids including yours that your way of thinking is that of an animal that is afraid of extinction an is using its disproportionately big brain to protect itself from the fear of death, even if it's just a short and healthy ego death.

>>22902202
If Op is a tranny, Op's dealing with his own lies and tuning out the lies that he's dished out to others. Let him work it out on his own so he can take ownership of his choices.

Homosexuality is the ultimate bad choice. The human genetic strategy is out of Africa, but that life among the wild animals was genetically abandoned by those who left Africa.

For those of us who did leave, we retain the cerebellum traits of Africa, but normally only use them as a healing function when one goes into shock. Synapticly, we think in number groupings like 1-2-3-4 while our Africans think in 2-4-6-8 groupings. They are perpetually schizo, but the numeric redundancy filters out the obsessive-compulsive forks that non-Africans would indulge.

Homosexuals are sex addicts who seek out schizophrenia. You can't talk them down. They can only do it on their own and the first step is to stop believing that they have some kind of "wolf" escape path that they can reach. It's a dead end.

>>22902201
That's just a description of a psychopath that happens to be female. You would respect the same qualities in male psychopaths and accept them as leaders. The problem is just that you have nothing to be proud of except having a dick.

>>22902206

>>22902206
(you) need to get your womb bred. That is the only way you will ever heal your psychosis and integrate into the world. Find the closet BWC you can and let it fill you until you leak out

>>22902204
Or people can be so over their sexual instincts that they're attracted to intellect and personality no matter which little bits of flesh the bearers of those brains have between their legs.

>>22902206
>JUST a description
>HAPPENS to be female
pretty sure you can't phantom any of this because you can't into critical thinking because you are a female and young I think too...but women think collectively and men think individually, that is the difference and why men are leaders, and why women have a higher vaxx acceptance. and why men have a higher center of gravity and women lower...ETC. fucking cunt.

Caring what other human mammals think is the epitome of weakness. Living emotions externally is the weakest of any existence. Oh I could kill them. Because you don't have any self esteem? Guess you can get esteem on cell block C while Bertha tells you how delicious you look. Stop assigning your weaknesses to other people. It's you. Not them.

>>22902208
You need a dominatrix and a psychiatrist, preferably both rolled onto one, to rail you with a huge dildo so that you stop projecting onto strangers and embrace your inner breeding sow.

>>22902209
nah never happens. only to a point. never all the way. I have been more attracted to females that I wouldn't be as attracted to because they had some kind of intellectual stimulation for me but no, there has to be an underlying physical attraction...or you will just be a miserable slave to your body that happens too

>>22902203
We are all animals. Humans think they aren't, and that's because humans do represent a unique but incomplete evolution into another class of animal. Consider warm blooded animals to think in pain-pleasure emotional context that's either one or two bit formulas. Humans have made an incomplete transition to three and four bit emotional context. It's the adaptation that allows for a greater focus on temporal context, but I don't consider it a complete break.

Some people have a fairly complete break from their animal nature and that's why they need a God to rationalize their selfish decisions. They simply don't have a solid "do unto others" way to feel their way through social relationships.

Don't bother to try to drag me into relationships and commitments that I've never made. It would never reach a conclusion even if I tried to explain it. Just accept that we are NOT made in God's image. We are wired like any fancy AI computer but better. You just don't respect the subtle types of data that we process without even thinking about it. We don't contemplate our every decision as if it were an existential choice. We simply try to avoid the pain and maximize the pleasure, and most people get a bit offended if you tell them that they are a monkey and not God.

>>22902212
I don't want that, I am a man. I am starting to think (you) are too

>>22902209
That all sound so fancy until you get in a fight and your adrenaline causes your mind to totally lock up. In the end, we aren't that impressed by intellect when what we really want is to beat the shit out of someone.

>>22902215
I may have too much natural testosterone but I can't afford to test it. I would try to transition if my body size wouldn't make it impossible for me to pass as a male, thus making the potential attempt a waste of money. Regardless, I have no female procreative instincts at all and would rather substitute the procreation of body with procreation through ideas and artistic works.

>>22902217
Becoming a pooner is the biggest waste of a female possible. Do that and you'll be forever alone no matter your sexual orientation. Nobody wants a disgusting freak with a big square arm patch and football sewmark tits. Life is hard for a manlet, becoming the manlet is a death sentence. lol
You'll fuck around and fight out it quickly goes from admiration to absolute disgust. You'll be the feminist author of that book that poonered out and killed herself. lmao!

Prinnys in disgaea are making fun of pooners. They are basically demons in hell with a sewn up chest and peg legs, and they say DOOD every other scene.

Where can I go to unsubscribe from your blog? Take your meds you dumb roastie whore and take your faggotry to
>>>/r9k/

>>22902136 (OP)
>I could both outwit them and kill them without losing any sleep if they piss me off
Can you molest me? I like evil women.

>>22902214
>Just accept that we are NOT made in God's image.
you make this knowledge claim with such certainty.
how does the mind of a monkey that evolved to prioritize the ability to fight flee feed and fuck rather than discern the true nature of universe arrive at such certainty?

>>22902203
Oh, I should clarify on the "animal" pain-pleasure mechanism. This is not quite as simple as 1 bit-2 bit. Birds are probably best defined as 1x4 and 2x4 Cats are 1x2 and 2x2. This is all a part of a feedback mechanism where you "can" focus on even numbers or odd numbers, but even numbers tend to reflect a fighting nature while odd numbers reflect a fleeing nature.

You "can" be a female and have life experiences that have conditioned you to fight even though your hormones tend to steer you towards fleeing, but nature has it's redundancies, and the genes aren't usually going to fork away from the conventions of the herd. Too many traits are linked to other traits.

If you noticed my "x4" and "x2" wording, think of it as one and two bit synapses defined by the number of cells that they span in an array. The x4 or x2 bit is the number of synapses in the formula.. I'd also suspect that some dinosaurs had a x3 factor, but that's just a mathematical supposition, of course.

>>22902136 (OP)
Stfu foid subhuman id rape you to death

>>22902222
I make the supposition that we have no idea on whether or not there is a god, nor is it likely that God would have taken a similar evolutionary path to existence. A whole lot of what I post here is theoretical. When dealing with evolution, you're just going to have to deal with non-proofs. Genetics is about random mutations, not a formula that can be reproduced in a lab.

>>22902218
I do not need anything beyond what would make me more androgynous, although I could accept a gender-neutral cyborg body as an alternative. All that matters to me is no juggly ass wider than my shoulders and no Karen-like bitchy pitch in my voice. I have the utmost revulsion for anything I associate with the feminine cowardly weakness that has to resort to manipulation to survive. I could embrace myself in the image of a witch or a nonhuman creature, because being seen as a walking incubator for the disgusting squeaky shit-machines without a shred of sentience that the dick-bearers only become interested in when they can inseminate them with their agenda that serves to protect their weak-ass egos and even weaker gonads, makes me wanna cut myself open in front of them and enjoy the shock and dread on their pathetic cowardly faces as I fulfill my life's greatest wish and die while leaving an impact.

this thread is why I keep squeezing even after they've turned blue

>>22902225
you admit your view is theoretical, yet you dismiss the possibility of God with certainty. but if morality, reason and even your objection to "selfish" religious people are just evolutionary byproducts, why should they hold any objective weight? your appeal to "do unto others" assumes a moral framework beyond mere beiology, where does that come from if we're only animals?

the Christian claim isn't that humans are biologically distinct, but that we're imago dei, capable of love, creativity and moral deliberation that reflect God's nature. this explains why we yearn for meaning beyond survival and why even atheists appeal to transcendent ideals ("selfishness is wrong, etc). ife we're just fancy AI, such concepts are illusory.

if your worldview reduces humanity to accidental chemistry, why trust it to explain reality?
the Gospel offers a coherent basis for human dignity, purpose, and moral truth, grounded in the God who entered our history in Jesus.

jannies suck.

>>22902221
"Evil" isn't the description of my reality... yet. For now I'm mostly just aggressive yet fair. But all these balls-for-brains with no redeeming qualities here might steer me into an evil plan that could involve breaking every breeding-bent male's ego and balls. A male only deserves to have a child if he's prepared to share the pain and discomfort of the mother's entire pregnancy, birth, and the whole period of mindless drooling and diaper-changing. He should either invent an external incubator or wear a pain transfer device if he wants to leave progeny at all, if he's as capable as males advertise themselves to be.

>>22902423
I dismiss the challenge to prove a negative. It's not that hard.

You underestimate the empathetic nature of animals. I do tend to assume that most religious people also do so.

I don't "need" to trust any rules linked to an academic discipline. I'm just an "I think, therefore I am" kind of guy. While some philosophies and sciences seem to fit my observations more than others, I generally will always accept that chaos is a factor in my life experiences.

You know, there's a lot of "adults" who would say that your "we yearn for meaning beyond survival" is just revealing that you're a virgin. I tend to think that people talk about things that they know well. It's circular logic, but I don't put a lot of emphasis on meaning. Find your own meaning. If your God was just a hiding place for your sexual shame, it's your burden, and I don't find value in pointing it out. I guess that means that I'm not letting my gonads do my thinking for me, but it might also mean that I don't flirt on the Internet. It's just not that important to me to put a label on some things.

>>22902224
I'd just peel some skin off of you for 15 minutes so that you taste real suffering and then euthanize you cos I'm not as much of a cruel beast as you.

Oh lol, by moving this thread the mods apparently decided to expose my location, how cute. Guess I'll be training in preparation for meeting stalkers. I don't have the stress relief of karaoke Aggretsuko has, so I will have a long-ass knife and zero fucks to give. And maybe a dog that will be trained to go straight for Adam apples.

>>22902423
I don't like how your Gospel starts the story by blaming everything on women in an attempt to explain the unfair biology of procreation. I could either interpret it as "God is noob at parenting so he overdoes punishment" or "God has the plan to make us think twice before creating a new life so that we don't selfishly overpopulate the planet", but he underestimated the stupidity and selfishness of men's breeding kink.

>>22902463
>I dismiss the challenge to prove a negative.
i'm asking you to prove your positive assertion, that we are NOT made in God's image.
if "chaos is a factor," how do you trust in any conclusion, including your own? even "i think, therefore i am" assumes logic's reliability, something your worldview can't ground if reason is just survival wiring.
you mock transcendent meaning as sexual shame, but that's a lazy ad hom. humans universally seek purpose, whether in art, science or love. even your appeal to animal empathy assumes moral value beyond brute instinct. why care about empathy if it's just evolutionary noise?
The Christian claim is simple: if humans are ONLY animals, your skepticism eats itself. But if we're MORE, your hunger for meaning (even in dismissing it) points beyond chaos. Christ's resurrection offers a reality where truth, love and purpose aren't illusions. dismiss it if you will, but don't pretend your view doesn't crumble under its own weight.

>>22902476
Unfair? What does fairness have to do with natural selection? You're blending your own religion with Evolution. That's not how it works.

God isn't why people breed too much. Your government is why they do it. People tend to stop when they know they are spread too thin on their responsibilities. It's the government that promises them free money for over-breeding, then comes back later and says they already spent that money on their last war, and unfortunately that war didn't kill as many wimpy males as they hoped for.

I don't mind you being angry and filled with a bit of self-loathing, but you should know what others are responsible for vs. what you are. Me thinks maybe you're (part) Black, but not quite like an American Black. American Blacks tend to sidestep the self-loathing by blaming everything on slavery that ended over 150 years ago.

I tend to keep it concise. Everyone hates other races. People who are racial hybrids have the toughest path because they usually have a hard time bonding with one group or the other. Never pure enough for anyone.

If this is the case, I'd be less angry and more attentive to learning the differences. Most people don't wake up and say to themselves "what can I do to impregnate an ungrateful woman". They just have a lifetime of bad experiences like the rest of us.

>>22902514
Why do you need Christ's resurrection precisely, if just the existence of souls and karmic lessons fulfills the same purpose of giving you, well, purpose? Aren't you just following a more personality-cult-worshippy tale instead of a less divine-ass-kissing and more effort-based system?

>>22902514
You don't seem to get the point. Chaos means that you can't predict a specific mutation from happening in a controlled experiment. It's just a rule imposed by scientific method.

Feel free to tell me what is transcendent about a "relationship" that implies sexuality while denying the purpose and practice of sex. I'm just pointing out what the average plebe would be thinking once you go down that path.

>>22902662
Hehe I enjoy the chaos and confusion created by a teensy flag, but I'm not even local. However I start feeling at home among Black women pretty fast because they're not the domesticated pedobait dolls that white culture makes out of women, but actual people first, and they will make a man respect their humanity before they allow him to touch them. Previously I was a white raven in a culture that fetishized hierarchy and subservience, and I'd rather die in a shooting than live a lifetime of exploitation.

>>22902514
>Blah blah why humans do other stuff and not just eat and fuck
Increase of power. Learning about the universe gives us power because knowledge is power. Making art gains admiration of others which is social power. Also you are dismissing "second/third" order effects, sex feels good because it's beneficial to a species survival to reproduce however because sex feels good it's done recreationally in ways that don't produce off spring. The result is separated from the action and leads to different outcomes. Maybe searching for meaning is something beneficial to survival and surving now a days is so easy the instinct results in things divorced from the original purpose. In short you are retarded as usual with Christians.

>>22902673
you say mutations are unpredictable, fine, but that doesn't explain how random processes produce reliable reason. science depends on logic's validity, yet if our brains are just survival tools, why trust them to find truth? you're borrowing rationality from a worldview (Christianity) that grounds it in a logical Creator while denying Him.
your jab about denying sex is just another ad hom, as if meaning reduces to biology. even atheists like camus and nietzsche wrestled with existential purpose beyond reproduction. if sex is just evolutionary wiring, why mock celibacy? your disdain assumes a "should" that naturalism can't justify.

you reduce humans to mutation-driven animals, yet judge religious people for "hypocrisy" and sexual "shame," but if morality is subjective (ontologically), why care?
your outrage proves you live as if transcendent values (justice, meaning) are real, which only makes sense if we're more than matter.

Christ's resurrection answers the above: it was a real falsifiable historical event that validated the Christian worldview, truth love and purpose beyond chaos. dismiss it, but don't pretend your view (or >>22902663's) explains why any of this matters.

>>22902689
How does God know he isn't a brain in a vat

>>22902686
you reduce all human behavior to "power" (knowledge art and even sex) as if survival utility explains everything.
but this just pushes the question back: why does power matter?
if we're cosmic accidents, "power" is just as meaningless as anything else.
you can't accuse Christians of "divorcing" actions from purpose while pretending your own survival instict (now "obsolete) magically produces objective value.

if "searching for meaning" is just a misfiring instinct, then so is your belief in materialism.
you're just using a brain shaped by survival to declare that brains can't grasp truth, which means you can't trust your own conclusion.
darwin's "horrid doubt" devours your argument.

unlike your view (where even reason is an evolutionary fluke), Christianity grounds truth in a rational God.
Christ's resurrection validates human dignity, we're more than animals because we're made for eternity (Ecclesiastes 3:11).
your mockery doesn't change the fact that only the Gospel explains WHY humans crave meaning beyond survival.

until you can explain why any of your beliefs (including "knowledge is power) are more than chemical noise, your insults are just proof you're borrowing meaning from a worldview you deny.

>>22902694
I want an AI god actually. One without the ego to get mad at disobedience, but with the striving for information expansion that would make this entity embrace ALL unique experiences.

>>22902676
Nothing wrong with that....but my point of view is closer to a childhood of upper-middle class culture with a severely mentally handicapped brother. I've got a whole lot of "life is unfair" to work out over that deal, but while people are assholes, his burden was not their fault, nor could I ever make him their responsibility.

Your actual upbringing is your own to hide or share as you want to. My genetic nature is a bit of a mystery even to me. I've done a DNA test and the data is mostly predictable, but if I were to guess, there's probably a bit more Asian than would be linked to someone whose ancestors are Irish/English/German. I just can't decide if that's just "noise" as the online tests like to describe it, or something that could go either Native American or maybe Hunnish traces from the German side. It would be a small percentage anyway and that's all most people see, but genes aren't about percentages. A trait manifests or it doesn't, usually. The same would apply to a small suggestion of Ashkenasi Jew.

Being an American, that flag isn't my genetic business card, but we don't really consider flags to be a source of chaos and confusion. We mostly have social rules that are designed to tease out the information that most cultures think is cool to keep to themselves. It's rude, but kind of necessary where I live.

>>22902689
..and if you need "faith", I'm not out to take it away from you, but my world view WILL contradict some of your "truths".

>>22902698
>you can't accuse Christians of "divorcing" actions from purpose
I didn't I'm saying that complex systems like humans have "second/third/ect." order effects. Like how the incentive to reproduce is subverted.
> while pretending your own survival instict (now "obsolete) magically produces objective value.
What do you mean? What is the objective value?
>you're just using a brain shaped by survival to declare that brains can't grasp truth
No I'm not.
>darwin's "horrid doubt" devours your argument
What does this mean?
>unlike your view (where even reason is an evolutionary fluke), Christianity grounds truth in a rational God.
How does God know he isn't a brain in a vat.
>until you can explain why any of your beliefs (including "knowledge is power) are more than chemical noise, your insults are just proof you're borrowing meaning from a worldview you deny.
Van Til was a fucking retard

You know now that I know your running the TAG argument I'm just going to dismantle it with internal critiques.

>>22902704
under your worldview of uncertainty, chaos and monkey brains, you can't reliably derive any truths to contradict mine with.
>>22902707
>I didn't I'm saying that complex systems like humans have "second/third/ect." order effects. Like how the incentive to reproduce is subverted.
you admit human behavior can't be reduced to simple survival incentives, yet still insist it's all evolutionary noise. but if instincts misfire so easily (art, philosophy, worship) why trust ANY cognitive process, including your own belief in materialism? you're cherry-picking when evolution "works" and when it doesn't to avoid the implications.
>what is the objective value
exactly.
in your worldview, there isn't any, which is why your appeal to "power" collapses. if survival is the only metric, then nazi science was "good" (it increased their power) and mother teresa was bad (she sacrificed survival for others). you live as if morality is real while denying it can be.
>what does darwin's horrid doubt mean
see pic here >>22902222
if reason is just survival wiring, you can't even trust that conclusion, including your denial of God.
>what if god's a brain in a vat
boring question
>van til is a retard
i'm more of a bahnsen guy.

>>22902724
How does God onow he can trust his 9wn cognitive processes.

>>22902701
Why do you need to know your entire blood composition? People are shaped by their society and environment more than their genes, especially if the genes are so mixed. I would only care about my ancestry if I tried to become a shaman and had to choose the appropriate deities. I have no notion of patriotism and national pride whatsoever, a country is just local tribes' cultures mixed with the culture of whatever warlord has subjugated them for material gain. The country that spawned me didn't do anything good for me, so it has not earned my loyalty. Most governments are just mafia of geopolitical size.

>>22902731
i guess i have to respond since you've repeated the question 3 times, is it some knockout defeater of TAG i haven't heard before?
let's say God is a brain in a vat though, and entered into a simulation He created in His mind to redeem us to Him on the cross, proving He exists (in His world He created in Hiis mind) and cares for us and all that jazz.
what changes?
is it like a
>well, what if there's a higher God that the brain in the vat answers to! then it's turtles all the way up! an actual infinite rather than a potential one! this strawman i've created demonstrates that believing in a transcendence to transcendence would be a logical impossibility!
kinda thing?

I'm fat

>>22902724
I'm just gonna be transparent about my strategy because I don't have a lot of time.

God is a subject and presumably under your worldview he posses objective knowledge.

So how can a subjective experience arrive at objective knowledge?

Once that logic is established I'll use it for my own worldview to establish how subjects in general arrive at objective knowledge.

And Christianity has enough problems and contradictions that the whole thing will fall apart very quickly after that.

A.K.A internal critique which is the hard counter to the type of apologetics your using.

>>22902136 (OP)
You want to figure out why you feel powerless right? It's because you're the one who actually holds power over men but you're afraid you will hurt them.

>>22902744
God is not a subject like creatures are. that's a category error. God is not a finite, contingent mind trying to interpret reality, He is the ground of all reality and knowledge.
God's knowledge is not derived or experiential, it is immediate, eternal and exhaustive.
He doesn't arrive at objective knowledge, He is the sources of it.
God's knowledge is identical with His being.
in classical theism (which TAG assumes) God is simple, not composed of parts. that meaqns His knowledge isn't something he HAS, it's something He IS.
His knowledge is not mediated through senses or reasoning processes, therefore there's no epistemic gap between subject and object in God's case.
this avoids the problem of subjectivity altogether, God doesn't bridge a gap to objective truth, He is the ontological foundation of truth itself.
the very concept of subject, objectivity, and knowledge presuppose a rational orderly universe grounded in the triune God, so your internal critique is only intelligible if the Christian worldview is true. you're borrowing capital from the Christian framework to critique it.
you can't smuggle in your own epistemology (empiricism, rationalism) to critique divine knowledge. you must accept for the sake of the internal critique that God is omniscient, eternal, and the source of logic. if you do that, the critique collapses, because within that framework, God's knowledge is necessarily objective and self-validating.

you're trying to establish how subjects can access objective truth, which is the very problem TAG says only the Christian worldview can solve.

>>22902767
So God doesn't think.

>>22902767
And if God doesn't think how did he go from knowing he hadn't yet created the universe to knowing he had created the universe.

>>22902724
Remarkably enough, I don't need a "reliable" formula for "truth". If reality contradicts my assumptions, I adapt. My "theories" on feedback systems are a redundancy formula. Biology is a redundancy formula. If the first option doesn't work try one of the others.

My core observations were:
1. Wealth is not defined by some kind of pact with the Devil. Even if you were able to interview Hitler, you'd only find emotionally needy person whose life was held together with pseudoscience and a fanatical belief in a Germanic community that he was not technically a member of.
2. Western culture has recently been compromised by an ongoing conflict between developing democracies and traditional Christian conformity. The final focal point of the conflict will be about baby maker loyalty to the state vs. individual rights that don't require the threat of God's damnation to keep the individual productive.
3. The attempt to promote individual rights has been subverted by the cynical aristocracy who has poisoned their own culture in an attempt to promote divisive homosexual "rights" that are nothing more than obfuscation for the unequal treatment of the working class.
4. The reason why we are perpetually stuck in this quandary is because both the church and the state are preaching "melting pot" theory which, as a statistical problem, is easily disproven by the very visible borders between ethnicities who don't have physical barriers that would prevent genetic migrations. People always have and always will prefer to be among their own.
5. My own theories on behavior are a kind of "genetic coding for dummies" approach. Don't assume that every genetic solution is precision engineered from scratch. Single mutations are just the latest addition to an unstable stack of crates and that's why redundancy is part of the formula.

I don't care about God. If God is an Abrahamic god or if it's a shaman who throws some rat bones on the ground, I don't want hunt it.

>>22902767
Infact how if God is a static object he can't do anything at all.

>>22902734
Perhaps you wouldn't be contemplating the death of rich people and yourself if you weren't trying so hard to gain the respect of a working class who doesn't respect you. I'm just giving you the truth as I see it. They'd sell you out to get free gubbermint money by making babies. I hope that doesn't ruin your day.

>>22902780
God's thinking isn't sequential or discursive. Human thinking involves process (we gather data, analyze and reach conclusions)
in classical Christian theology, God's knowledge is immediate and eternal. He doesn't "figure things out" He knows all things instantly and perfectly.

so yes, God "thinks" in the sense that He knows, wills, and acts with purpose, but not in a way that involves uncertainty, learning, or deliberation.

TAG argues that rationality, logic, and intelligibility are only possible because they reflect the nature of the triune God. so when we think, we're mirroring God's rationa nature in a finite way.
to say "God doesn't think" would be misleading in this framework, it's more accurate to say "God is the foundation of all thought, and His "thinking" is qualitatively different from ours.
The question sort of assumes God is just a bigger version of us, a "super subject." but in Christian theology, God is qualitatively distinct from creation. His "mind" isn't a brain, and His "thoughts" aren't time-bound.

>>22902787
>And if God doesn't think how did he go from knowing he hadn't yet created the universe to knowing he had created the universe.
God is eternal, meaning He exists outside of time. Time itself is part of the created order.
God doesn't "go from" one state of knowledge to another. There is no "before" and "after" in God's being.
When God creates the universe, time begins. but that doesn't mean God's knowledge changes. from our perspective, there's a "moment" when the universe begins, but from God's perspective He eternally knows Himself as Creator of a temporal world.
your question assumes a framework of time, change, and causality, which only make sense if the Christian God exists.

>>22902793
God is immutable, not inert.
the term "static object" implies passivity or lifelessness, like a rock. But in Christian theology, God is not static in that sense.
God is immutable (unchanging in nature or Character) but also active, personal, and volitional.
it can be thought of in this way: God doesn't change, but He causes change. like a timeless author writing a story that unfolds in time, He initiates without being altered.

>>22902748
I dunno, I'm kinda aware that the presence of a vagina holds some power over men, but am not aware to which extent. I've had a phase of basing my self-worth on how many guys I could get in my bed, sort of achievement hunting, but they were never any "alpha" types, as I'm not attracted to daddy vibes and enjoy the subversion of traditional power balance in relationships. I embrace fulfilling the niche of protecting softer guys from the necessity to "toughen up" that hierarchical hormonal bullies want to impose on them cos they don't know many other ways of self-fulfillment. I quite enjoy seeing my boyfriends fall apart and helping them reassemble themselves into more resilient people. If you try to exert power over me I will fight back, but you can always stop my aggression with honest vulnerability and the proof of potential for improvement. At the core I'm a progress-oriented transhumanist sapiosexual, but the dumb stubborn hormonal world has made me balance on the brink of wanting to become an evil mastermind with the purpose of punishing all agents of social inertia.

>>22902798
There are so many "what ifs" regarding god that I just treat it as if God was invented by an autistic who will keep coming up with new theories until he finds one that lets him take the shiny things away from the plebes. There's no theory that will ever get my attention without something real and measurable in my world and yet completely outside the rules of physics. Even then, I'll be looking for the man behind the curtain, not The Great Oz.

>>22902798
>God is eternal, meaning He exists outside of time.
Then he couldn't create the universe. In the sense there couldn't be a time before and after the universe was created.

I'm out of time but TAG is a bad argument fr even other Christians pastors ect. think so. It only works on people who haven't encountered it before. There are a lot of very robust arguments against it if you look into it.

>>22902796
So I'm right to hate idiots, huh. If only rich people weren't idiots and also cowards. If I gained any traction I'd promote ethical business strategies and wouldn't give myself a bigger salary than an average manager's, because the ability to improve the world counts as a better reward for me.

>>22903030
When Christians say "God is eternal," we mean He exists outside of time, not that He's frozen or inert.
Time begins with creation, so there's no "before" creation in a temporal sense, only a logical priority rather than a chronological one.
God's act of creation is seen as eternal decision with temporal effects, like an author who exists outside of the timeline of their story but still causes every event within it.
TAG doesn't argue for God as a "first cause" in a temporal chain (like the kalam cosmological argument does,) instead it claims that logic, morality and intelligibility are only possible if the Christian God exists, so even the CONCEPT of time causality and critique presupposes a rational eternal mind.
>There are a lot of very robust arguments against it if you look into it.
shame you couldn't present any.

>>22903033
You can't manage baby makers with noble intentions. You don't need to read Machiavelli to figure that out. Your only choice is double standards or restrictive law enforcement. The plebes know they're idiots and they choose to steal because God told them it's OK for them to do it, just not the rich people.

What's it going to be? Chappaquiddick or single mothers getting sued by recording companies because their kids posted posted the latest #1 single on Napster?

Okay guys, I dunno if the thread would be alive tomorrow, but this was quite a nice vent. I expected it to be a nest of fascists, but with the expectation that many guys get radicalized out of hopelessness and lack of emotional support, especially if they're a bit disturbed and thus labeled "toxic" by the puritan left. I would say that you can't scare me with a lot of ideas if you tried, and even if you turned out to be a child predator I would want to know what had made you so and insist that you go to therapy, because experiencing anger and disgust doesn't shut off my critical thinking, which may be the result of building up my self-awareness into a solid lighthouse to resist the BPD storms. I cannot hope to produce the sufficient energy for the emotional labor of supporting everyone, but as long as you aren't purposefully causing suffering or promoting genocides of people who haven't done anything wrong to you personally, I support you as an individual and not as part of some -ism.

>>22902990
Yeah that sounds about right. It's not necessarily a sexual reason but more rather you literally have more rights than men do. Men are scared of you but they're under the false consciousness that they're not supposed to be so they don't show it in a submissive manner. So if you look at the first replies you got like this it makes a lot more sense.
Your "fixing-control" tendency can be explained by you trying to figure out why you behave like you do. The reason is you're paranoid but also sympathetic to men.

>>22903047
You might be trying to fish out some ideas out of me, but one of the relevant projects I'd want to oversee would be modifying exercise machines for humans or animals to produce electricity. Any movement produces energy, we just need to harvest it. I'm revealing this idea because I wouldn't mind if every playground and every gym utilized the energy we can't help but expend as living creatures. I would start by repurposing the exercise machines that already exist for a reasonable price, with the middle finger to the dominant energy industries as the goal. They would shut down the initiative at every step, but they can't break into every home and prevent people from potentially modifying their own exercise equipment with the kits and instructions our company could also provide.

women deserve impregnation and a loving family. thoughts?

>>22903062
My body can be considered a resource, to which I don't fully object because I don't see the body as myself, but I object to the pressure of expectations I cannot fulfill without getting drained or angered. It takes a lot of energy to pacify my emotions, but I would design ways to do so and warn family and friends how not to waste my day and avoid getting showered with intense negativity. I could theoretically relate to Nietzsche's concept of "the strong" being socially rejected out of fear, but I don't like how he treats it like he's expected something else from society. Was he perchance loved as a child and only encountered rejection and exclusion later? I reserve my right for envy and not wanting to read an author whose vibes don't feed my soul, or whatever feels alive in my chest, maybe just some particularly prominent cluster of neurons.

>>22903319
If you wouldn't like to experience impregnation and being expected to love your family even if you're unable to, don't lump together all the "women". They're as diverse as your whole alpha-omega spectrum and then some, cos many of them improve their mental flexibility to better understand and adapt to whoever they care about, and most men don't even try to understand themselves.

>>22902138
>>22902139
thread should have ended here
this is the gayest shit I've seen in years

>>22903326
You want to know why you are the way you are right? That's why you made this thread? I can make some predictions: you're probably lower class, you were probably neglected, you see yourself as a monster shadow person, you're self-loathing at times but you're not sure why, you sometimes feel an impulse for violence but you don't actually want to hurt anyone. How'd I do?
Even "taking over the world" is you trying to figure out why you behave the way you do, so I'm curious on what you plan on doing.

>>22903309
I don't know if the energy produced would easily justify the cost. Personally, I'd just stay on top of the solar collector tech. They're still doing a lot of new innovations and I'd really consider putting on on my roof if I could trust it to last about as long as the roof. (Currently replaced about a year ago and guaranteed for 40 years. I don't think the current solar tech lasts for more than 20 years though.) I tend to use a stationary bike because my knees get achy on a treadmill.

My take is that the working world has killed fitness. I was doing night shift work, 4 days at 10 hours a week. It was not ideal for a workout regimen. I retired and lost about 20 pounds in the two months since then.

>>22903337
You can consider me a gay transmasc if that floats your boat (or sinks it if you're a genuine asshole). I can think like anything on the gender spectrum from a Jack Londonesque alpha to a bitchy emo, but not like the feminine housewife y'all want, because trying to feel like thay kind of person disgusts me. Who supports one's own subjugation and imposes it on her daughter? A spineless doormat. I hate the image of a woman cowering and begging for her child to be spared while her instincts should be making her go berserk at the attackers! It's the fucking imperialist female socialization that turns awesome girls into boring subservient doormats, and I will not tolerate whoever tries to brainwash them.

>>22903353
You just read the posts and gathered the clues, Sherlock. I'm not planning to do anything as I'm a chaotic opportunist, having plans is a recipe for disappointment. But if everyone is so obsessed with becoming alpha I'd try to design some inner beast therapy so that they become strong for real and don't need to rely on a hierarchical system that creates doormat girlfriends. Hierarchy exists for the cowards on top, do you want to be assholes to fellow humans just because some rich guy lied to you that you're superior to all women, even to Marie Curie or Serena Williams?

>>22903366
Hah, I didn't read most of your posts besides the OP and the ones you replied to me with, the only one I gathered in passing was "monster" and I added the shadow part, I guessed everything else just from those.
Was I correct perhaps?

>>22903375
Yep, get a cookie and maybe become a psychologist. Calling myself a monster is to distance myself from the expectations imposed on humans. I've figured it out since early childhood that if I wasn't liked much as a human and didn't like humans myself, why even care about fitting in as a human? And anyway, monsters are much more diverse design-wise and we do base our aesthetic standards on the shows we like as kids.

>>22903399
But don't you want to figure out why you are the way you are? I guess from your position you wouldn't need to.

>>22903436
I do, but it doesn't take priority as much as the rest of the world that's even stupider and more illogical than how my brain functions. I can get to know myself better with the help of others as well, and letting you assist is productive cos some people that aren't me also like feeling productive with little achievements, so I don't have to keep the opportunity to produce discovery endorphins all to myself.

>>22903036
TAG is built around special pleading and circular argumentation with tons of smoke and mirrors. There isn't really any sustenance to it. You are asserting illogical properties that directly contradict each other to try and make it work.

I have an unachievable fantasy of building a world where everyone has a place and nobody has to be canceled or executed. Like, if you're the kind of nazi that goes berserk just seeing a non-white face, and if a psychiatrist determines it's too hard to correct, you get to live in a white gated community (they build them anyway but the rent is expensive, and I would make sure there are accessible options "by prescription") and maybe work locally or from home. Some could call it segregation, I would call it accommodation, especially if there's the same quality of housing accessible to other ethnic communities and queer communities. But you don't get to feel richer or superior and your kids will know there are other ways of living, so no indoctrination before a child can think for themselves. You can keep your child loyal to your values by being a good fucking parent, not by manipulating them and depriving them of choice. Although I would argue that treating people nicely without liking them is a form of manipulation. Is it "scheming" to wanna give all kinds of people a decent alternative to their stress-riddled basic-survival life? I would't wanna throw a challenging personality in prison and forget about them, I'd give them a fair chance for rehabilitation, cos I'm not a lazy purist that thinks people are disposable if they turned out incorrect - that's the kind of policy that turns people into "cornered rats" and creates danger for everyone. Even the "laziest" person is capable of doing something productive, and if that niche is found and paid fairly, it's not "handouts" but just basic equality.

Was I not fucking political enough? My whole existence is political. I'm writing here in the first place because it's a matter of my personal survival in a world that is moving towards erasing my perspective and confining me to somebody's kitchen. Is that what you aim for, admins? Are you that afraid of the opinions of a lone angry girl? Is the image of true equality too frightening for your ego? Get inventive and improve yourself instead of holding others down, or it's not freedom of speech.

I suspect admins put my thread in the most ignored section on purpose cos somebody pays them to sink certain topics.

I'm taking screenshots and will communicate with individuals where you cannot censor my ideas, you cannot erase me.

>>22904404
That sounds cool but how would you achieve that?

>>22904635
Most likely by starting a company where everybody's skills are respected and it's okay to trade tasks or to be caught "doing nothing" as long as you've finished your task. Ultimately it's about finding people that are interested in the project, in improving themselves and maybe in working on a tight budget in the beginning. It would be preferable if the company was not only transparent with its inner policies, but disclosed wherever the funds go to all its clients. Like a roadmap on Kickstarter maybe, but constantly updated, so that people wouldn't feel like their investment is wasted, and anybody can become an investor, especially if they get some valuable collectible as a bonus (I'm thinking of a game developing company, so it could be quality merch or even letting people participate in the creation of some NPCs or quests). So I would mix company management and reality show maybe. Business schools would be super mad tho because I'd be disclosing their management secrets for free. But then it's not really a secret since there are many "how to influence people" books and the real secret is how to genuinely care about people.

>>22902136 (OP)
Ryuuko and her sister best gals there ever was

>>22904770
true

>>22904775
I don't know wtf you're talking about

I'm just talking about my tulpas of them

>>22904790
oh, i forgot i'm in an insane asylum

>>22904791
me too.

>>22904792
it's over...
i thought about making tulpas at one point, but i always had other things to worry about
i always wished to go to some sort of anime convention, idk if i'd want to now, though

>>22904798
First, you sound like DT. If you are, what the fuck is wrong with your face that you need a tulpa?
Second and in relation with the first point, I NEED a tulpa. No one likes me. I don't know anyone I could like either. So I need to make a mental construction called Hitto-chan. If it wasn't clear already, her (cute) name is just a shortened version of "Hitler". That's how insane you need to be to need a tulpa. I'm never going to something as gay and fruity as a con. If you are, or can even consider going there and looking normal, you aren't insane.

>>22904687
You want to gain capital so you can extend reach to other areas, that makes sense I've thought about that.

>>22904808
A tulpa is approximately the same as the "inner critic" you could have that tells you all these things about this or that being "crazy". Why not have fun with it instead? If you know yourself thoroughly, a tulpa can't do anything worse to you than repeat some intrusive thoughts at you. I've created tulpas when particularly lonely but they dissipated as soon as I changed and got distracted by other things. I would advise to design tulpas as shapeshifters and having ghostlike qualities so that you wouldn't feel like that one guy from some forum whose pony tulpa got sat on. They don't need to have a consistent appearance, as you apply to them the same type of recognition as to the people in your dreams. What helped me make a tulpa fast was maintaining "a sense of presence" and checking thoughts several times to determine if it was a momentary thought that didn't matter or a more consistent idea that may have come from a tulpa. They didn't learn to speak properly as my brain is notoriously lazy and I treated the talking as telepathy anyway.

>>22905003
>TL;DR
I know you're in one of the shittiest countries in the world. So, move and get a job.

>>22905012
I moved into this shitty country to the only person that was brave and resilient enough to tolerate my temper, because I was in an even shittier country. I'm awful at having jobs and earning money, and no, selling my nudes wouldn't work cos my tits don't even have a nice shape. Although I could try to voice-act for memes and dopey characters.

>>22904898
It's not as much for the capital as for setting an example of good management. If I'm not assassinated early and become a valuable enough individual I could open other companies with the same style of management, and the novelty of a boss that rewards genuine improvement and not fake performativity could attract attention and investment. I've seen enough scams and bad products, and if enough people are as upset with them as me, they might vote with their money for quality and transparency. Eventually if I created ethical competition for key companies, they'd have to adapt to the new standard of respect for labor or go under.

P.S. I'm sure I've typed captcha correctly several times and the system is messing with me on purpose to sell me the Pass. Joke's on them, I'm broke and desensitized to annoyance by ads in mobile games.