Absurdity of atheism - /bant/ (#22917963) [Archived: 399 hours ago]

Anonymous United States
7/10/2025, 12:31:30 AM No.22917963
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The atheist worldview is incoherent and philosophically bankrupt.
Atheists constantly appeal to truth, logic, and reason when attacking Christianity, yet their worldview gives them no foundation for any of these things.

So let’s hear it:

In a worldview where everything is material, random, unguided, and constantly changing, where humans are just biological accidents shaped by evolutionary chance, how do you account for the existence of universal, immaterial, and unchanging logical laws? How do you justify trusting your own reasoning if your thoughts are nothing more than neurons firing for survival, not truth? And what even is truth in a universe governed by blind, purposeless physics?

If you can't justify logic, reason, and truth in your worldview, then you can't justify anything, including your atheism.

But let’s be real. You won’t answer this. You’ll just dodge, deflect, mock, and impotently rage. That’s all you atheists ever do.

Prove me wrong.
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Anonymous United States
7/10/2025, 12:34:58 AM No.22917964
>it is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle then for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven - Jesus
how many christcucks, like joe rogan, conveniently ignore that one? so if they ignore one do they really believe in any of it?
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Anonymous Australia
7/10/2025, 12:36:57 AM No.22917965
>>22917963 (OP)
Anyone can see theres no god. When you pray to god youre praying to nothing.
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Anonymous Unknown
7/10/2025, 12:40:26 AM No.22917966
>>22917963 (OP)
>How do you justify trusting your own reasoning if your thoughts are nothing more than neurons firing for survival, not truth?
Most scientists believe that no one is conscious because if we were conscious consciousness would have to be a fundamental property of atoms.
Anonymous United States
7/10/2025, 12:42:04 AM No.22917967
>>22917964
There are a lot of "lukewarm" believers, and God said he would reject them when the time came.
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Anonymous United States
7/10/2025, 12:42:40 AM No.22917968
>>22917964
>>22917965
You’re only proving me right, you atheists are unable to answer the challenge given in the OP. >>22917965
And how can you trust your own senses in an atheistic naturalistic evolutionary worldview?
Anonymous Slovenia
7/10/2025, 12:43:11 AM No.22917969
>>22917965
/thread
If God existed, atheism wouldn't be winning, Hitler wouldn't exist, Bolsheviks wouldn't exist, etc.
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Anonymous United States
7/10/2025, 12:43:30 AM No.22917970
>>22917963 (OP)
Atheism like all beliefs, is a spectrum that varies from individual to individual
There is no unity via atheism because atheists tend to be more individualistic
At least, that’s my take. I’m atheist
Anonymous Netherlands
7/10/2025, 12:50:49 AM No.22917971
>>22917963 (OP)
The thing about atheism is that it is understandable to hold from the pov of reason and logic and experience, especially in modernity, but what betrays it is the animus of the self-proclaimed. They are not atheists, they are anti-christians, and they spend all their time seething or coping about christianity, even when it does not affect them. The seethe is palpable almost always, and easy to spot for someone who does not care about the matter (like most normalfags)
Anonymous United States
7/10/2025, 12:52:00 AM No.22917972
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>>22917969
>a-atheists are w-winning bros!
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Anonymous United States
7/10/2025, 12:56:07 AM No.22917973
>>22917963 (OP)
Here's my worldview. Fuck off.
Anonymous United States
7/10/2025, 1:07:56 AM No.22917974
>Not a single atheist can prove me wrong.
GG
Anonymous ID: wNQojCguUnited States
7/10/2025, 1:34:46 AM No.22918233
>>22917967
every group says that.
you know that, right? every fucking group, that claims to have some big ultimate path, claims they will wipe the moderates away when the time finally comes.
people like shoe on head plan to dump all of the communists to the curb when they finally get the socialism they want. they're buddy buddy now, but they won't be when one of them gets what they're after.

but do you really think that's gonna happen? do you really think either one of them is gonna get the world they want? of course not. you and i know that based on historical evidence. they are not gonna walk this ultimate path of changing the world to their ideology because the ideology is unrealistic.

that's how i see you.
Anonymous ID: bgeD+4p4United States
7/10/2025, 2:08:56 AM No.22918295
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>>22917963 (OP)
oh wow another Christians who acts nothing like an Christian should? that's so crazzzyy
>And what even is truth in a universe governed by blind, purposeless physics?
There is no truth. Why is truth so important to you in the first place and how do you define it? I can live my life without knowing the "truth' of the universe.
>>22917972
Typical for /pol/tards to throw a random stat from fucking 3 decades ago as evidence. Atheism is on the rise Christianity has been slowly declining over the years.
Anonymous ID: vI3C+rhBUnited States
7/10/2025, 2:11:23 AM No.22918300
>>22917963 (OP)
Testing
Anonymous ID: cCY2h29IHungary
7/10/2025, 8:01:47 AM No.22918918
>>22917963 (OP)
Contemporary atheism is the newest form of protestant Christianity.
Their critique of Christianity is either that it's not simple enough for the to understand it (of course they would never admit this, they cloak it into some Rick and Morty nonsense) or that Christians are not accepting, loving, supporting (aka: Christlike) enough.
They are hardcore puritans in denial, complete flaggots. They don't even understand this is-ought problem in my latest point
Anonymous ID: Wq2VrBrEUnited States
7/10/2025, 8:08:39 AM No.22918920
>>22917963 (OP)
How did you go from “There are universal and logical laws that govern the universe” to “Therefore, God exists”? Feels like a leap of “faith” to me, no logic or reason behind it.
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Anonymous ID: cCY2h29IHungary
7/10/2025, 8:12:39 AM No.22918924
>>22918920
It's exactly the other way around
Anonymous ID: WPbr5gs/United States
7/10/2025, 8:17:13 AM No.22918925
>"naturally" raised a "Christian"
>nobody around me practices what they preach
>my prayers are never answered
>family fights start increasing in intensity
>everything falls apart
i don't know what you expected.
Anonymous ID: rdBMlkGdUnited Kingdom
7/10/2025, 8:25:33 AM No.22919334
>>22917964
I always assumed that just meant you can't take your wealth with you to heaven, and that we all pass through the gates equally poor. Was I wrong?
Anonymous ID: W/2FSz2TUnited States
7/10/2025, 8:28:59 AM No.22919340
>>22917963 (OP)
>If you can't justify logic, reason, and truth in your worldview, then you can't justify anything, including your atheism
no justification is required to NOT believe something.

If I don't believe in the existence of china I don't have to justify that lack of belief. The only way I'd have to justify it is I was presented with personal evidence of china's existence. And that's not going to happen.
Anonymous ID: BtPS84K+France
7/10/2025, 8:51:03 AM No.22919367
>>22917963 (OP)
Blackpill: If God exist, God is atheist. Godly heaven can't exist because God can't be conscious. Monotheism is illogical and based on polytheist ideas.
Anonymous ID: 21XZvrKLUnited States
7/10/2025, 8:57:02 AM No.22919385
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the problem isn't thinking that a 'god' exists, it's thinking that somehow our stupid monkey religions are the real ones. it's almost certain that aliens set up this terrarium and are basically our gods, now if you want to zoom out of scope and ask well who made them? and then who made that? eventually you'll get to God, which likely is something so strange and abstract that we can't even fathom it, this is something so outside our realm that it wouldn't even be aware of us, if it even is aware at all, think a mathematical equasion or a force of nature. human's really are small minded, thinking our religions can even begin to describe God, it's funny.
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Anonymous ID: UdsWgjsBUnited States
7/10/2025, 10:12:52 AM No.22919494
>>22919385
Lain is redpilled as fuck, and it's not about aliens, God is a metaphysical source, not a material alien race.
Anonymous ID: AW1PMQYeCanada
7/10/2025, 8:40:30 PM No.22921136
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>>22917963 (OP)
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Anonymous ID: 8Yk6V13xGreece
7/10/2025, 9:04:18 PM No.22921228
No such thing as a universal logical law.
Only an instinctual sense of justice. Humans evolve and retain the traits that help them survive. Any human characteristic that isn't an evolutionary trait can totally be unlearned.

I hope i understood your question correctly and didn't sound retarded since this isn't my first language
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Anonymous ID: S637uLVYUnited States
7/10/2025, 10:52:42 PM No.22921878
>>22921228
>No such thing as a universal logical law
Math is an unchanging universal logical law. 2 + 2 will always equal 4 no matter what.
Anonymous ID: LtPg4nk9United States
7/10/2025, 11:36:35 PM No.22921989
>22917972
>Jerking off to the suicide of people who disagree with you

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