Thread 22919099

what would romans think of modern italians

They would be disgusted. The romans were nordic looking.

>>22919100
wait werent they the dudes with curly hair or were those Greeks?

>>22919100
lmao, no

nothing

>>22919099 (OP)
Only faggots like whores

>>22919099 (OP)
ungodly amount of body hair

>>22919104
say it to her face
https://www.instagram.com/carla.18_/?hl=en

>>22919099 (OP)
>not enough murder
>not enough sex
>not enough war
>what do you mean slaves are illegal
>why isn't the Cosa Nostra leading the Senate
>the fuck are those glowing rectangles you all keep staring at
>and what the literal fuck is this language have you all been drinking

>>22919101
>>22919102

Rome in its prime was filled with white people who could pass as germanic/nordic. Those are the real romans. They got lazy and started importing a slave class from north africa and the levant. Over time, the slave class had more children and started to over populate the actual italians. Hence, the decline of the roman empire. Does this sound familiar to you anon?

>>22919100
No they weren't you're a dumb chud. The italic romans were dark haired, dark eyed, olive skinned. much like many Meds, the gauls did play a role in introducing gaelic looks like blonde and blue eyes to the peninsula.

>>22919101
Both, you can see characters like Antony, Hadrian, Aurelius who were curly chads

>>22919099 (OP)
That's probably how the average Roman woman looked back then

>>22919099 (OP)
They'd probably be like
>who the fuck are these nappy headed niggers that smell like coconut oil and afro shine
As someone who recently visited Italy it's like going to a 3rd country in the middle east, thought I was with mudshit immigrants until I realized they were what we are supposed to believe are Italians kek. Italian Americans are also retarded shitskins.

the fertility rate during the peak roman growth years was like 6-7 kids per women. they had crazy (for to-day anyways) high fertility and it gradually fell to non-existent.

it had to be that high in order to account for infant mortality and the continuous warfare they engaged in.

or so i've read, anyways.

>>22919109
Yeah none of those statues look like the muslim rape babies stealing purses and LARPing as italian today kek.

>>22919099 (OP)
I can shave her.

>>22919114
they looked like this

>>22919109

The statues literally look germanic and had light skin, light eyes, light hair. You are a coping MENA mutt. Rome at her peak was a white civilization, just like Greece and Egypt.

>>22919100
>>22919108
>>22919112
lying yakubian devils

>>22919117
Another dumb culture appropriating g*rman. Cope more nigger

>>22919109
Uses an image of a man from Hispania to illustrate his point.

>What did the jew mean by this?

>>22919120
Marcus aurelius was born in Rome

>>22919108
This and the Moorish Conquest is why I barely consider Meds white. Individually, they could still be white, but civilizationally, those nations are all but lost.
>>22919116
Not even, mate. That is a descendant of the levantine slaves the Romans imported. Northern Italians, aka actual Italians, are very germanic looking.

>>22919099 (OP)
no need to think about it, we already know what they thought of lombards and what they did to them and people like them before being ultimately fell by them
we also know what they thought of the kikes they bozgored which ultimately populated the south of italy

>>22919099 (OP)
>too much clothing
>too little penis
Fix these small details and would make for a fine hunk of marble

>>22919122

Modern meds are simply not white for the most part. There are still some whites in those countries but they are rare. Its like how modern Americans are not native americans. We still have some around, but its a very small percentage. At best, the average modern med is an arab mutt. A mestizo. They have some white ancestors and some non white ancestors, mixed. And yes they made it as far as northern italy, northern spain, northern portugal, parts of france and even switzlerland.

>>22919099 (OP)
"why are they so brooownnn, ick"

>>22919100
Yes. Also toothless and inbred, usually from either irish, french or german descent, just like the hicks from the american south.

>>22919121
Is this is a Japanese toddler?

>>22919100
The italic tribes clustered with the celts of Central europe genetically.

So where are the italians? Why is every fucking thread about rome led by americans with zero relation to it telling us how rome was actually like?

>>22919122
>. That is a descendant of the levantine slaves
That guy is mostly English and Irish actually, only 3% Italian with no levantine genetic heritage whatsoever.

>>22919100
romans were degenerate faggots

>>22919100
WE

>>22919099 (OP)
Are those tits natural, kinda wanna know. Is about standards n shit.

>>22919109
No the romans of the early republic were not modern Italians, nor were they the same genetically as the imperial period when they had drifted vastly away from Central Europe and toward syria and greece.

>>22919131
What we really need is a monkey's opinion

>>22919131

Something like 90% of italians cannot understand english anon. Its a very poor and illiterate country that lives off tourism. The average italian male will be living at home with his parents into his 40's and sire zero children. A failed country. We have watched the once mighty Egypt, Greece and Rome fall.

>>22919118
Lol I love how you admit your own inadequacy. Believing the Yakub story means you admit whites are your racial superiors. In your story, we are so much more advanced than you that whites literally psychically stole technology out of your minds and have blocked you from ever relearning it again. Blacks are dirty monkeys and whites have psychic powers.

This is what the Romans looked like.

>>22919099 (OP)
They'd think most of them were africans. North africans.

>>22919135
Natural and furry

>>22919124
>if only you knew how fucked everything is.

it's just a phase.

>>22919131
You're right it should be a Brazilian zambo instructing the class.

>>22919140
They are kinda cute the bully has to be i dunno like a wineglass.

>>22919136
>>22919129
I mean I can pull from different periods, it's not like the Roman patricians married abroad too much, so it largely was reflective of republic eras even in the late empire. I don't know why you have a desire to try white washing Mediterraneans, they have always had olive skin and darker features, and even historical accounts support that.

>>22919137
my opinion on rome is worth just as much as theirs, anon. Entirely worthless.

>>22919139
I ironically mentioned yakub because they are behaving like retarded pan africanist niggers who believe they waz kangz and shit, and that egyptians were somehow blue eyed anglo saxons.

>>22919100
>old money patrician families who have been senators for 1000 years
Identical to modern Italians
>poorfag Romans, tradesmen, and gentry (everyone else)
Literally America tier diversity with any phenotype from Nordics to Gauls to North Africans to Egyptians to niggers. Obviously the bulk of them looked closer to modern Italians though.

>>22919148

There isn't even a modern italian. You have germanics/celts in the north and north african/arabs in the south.

>>22919099 (OP)
They would probably want to have sex with them, since modern women and men look really good compared to people of their time

>>22919109
Do I need to remind you what Flavius means, monkey boy?

>>22919113
>stablish a jew loving religion
>collapse in less than 100 years

really makes you think

>>22919149
The ones with the most Mediterranean/NA admixture and the least Celto-Germanic/Arab admixture would be the best representation.

>>22919144
ideally this class would be dismissed for its stupidity, but alas...

>>22919099 (OP)
Don't care. 80% of the population is vaccinated, so any woman you refer to is already subhuman unless shown to be unvaccinated.

>>22919146
this dude looks white as fuck dude. maybe they r emore like mutts, like jews. mostly white but with some funny hair. dude definitely lloks white as fuck look at the face he looks like a fuckin german. or maybe some germans look like italians i dont know

>>22919151

Imagine looking like this and thinking you are related

>>22919132
Bullshit. He has too many non-white charicteristics. Hooked nose, sloped face, ears below the eyes, I could go on. Definitely no Irish in him. Whomever he is, I'd bet he's a lying converso spawn.

>>22919151
Again a singular person, Julius caesar was dark haired med complexion nigga

>>22919146
The issue is that you appear to be purposely misleading everyone about it, since you apparently know that the early romans did not fit your description of what the romans were.

>>22919156
see this >>22919119


>>22919160
Early Romans have barely any historical accounts is why, the only time periods when Romans became meticulous about history was the late republic to the crisis of the 3rd century. So again reporting before and after these points is very difficult.

>>22919099 (OP)
I wish I looked like this and could wear lingerie, bikinis, and catsuits

>>22919100
we wuz romans n shit
fuck off, and I say this as a blonde haired blue eyed man

>>22919148
It depends entirely on the period, by the late empire they were actually darker than the modern Italians as several germanic groups invaded and brought their genetics back toward their founding stock genetically.

>>22919126
It honestly kinda pisses me off at this point. I wouldn't be bothered if they just admitted the truth. I have an Italian cauvanist coworker who is just a straight up arab. His family comes from Sicily for fuck's sake.

>>22919162
ywnbaw

>>22919154
You started it, I just mocked you for it. Welcome to school.

>>22919119
terrible pictures mad eby a faceblind person. look at agrippa and tell me he looks more like a med than a western european. also i dont know why you keep trying to pretend that italian have chinky eyes or something.

>>22919167
Public education, huh.

>>22919158
Nope, I know him, I've seen his DNA, its ~80% English, Irish, French, German, and the rest Portuguese, Italian, and Spanish. Zero non-Euro DNA.

Was pic related non-white?

>>22919099 (OP)
they would like to slave and breed them
not necessarily in that order

>>22919161
The Roman republic has all sorts of history they just don't show it on TV, cause it was less degenerate.

>>22919099 (OP)
Is there where are the darkie eurofags pretend they're still white?

>>22919159
You say he had a med complexion, yet post a pic of him looking paler than a Frenchman.

>>22919169
Private school kids tease eachother too.

>>22919132
>>22919158
look at his chin and mouth, i can believe he has irish. but he definitley has some ahskenazi going to have a nose like that which happens these genes float around and are dominant so two kinda big nose and you can get funny surprises with the offspring

he looks also french. hes definitely got some stuff.

>>22919159
Walk into the sun, get a rash.

people back then went more outside and were more tan,n you guys are aware than even white people like swede can tan quite a bit right? fuckin hell

>>22919176
Wrong, your jewdar is broken. He has no non European DNA.

>>22919170

>>22919179
i look much less jewish than him and i have 13% ahskenazi. if you asusme its half white half jewish it means 7% middle east. this guy has atleast 10 or 15 no way you get such a hooked nose with low bridge start (below the eye). rest is french with irish at the mouth (thin lips and weird chin, or some white bullshit from british isles in general. im not saying hes a jew, im not a jew either. just that he has a bit of these genes

>>22919108
>>22919109
>>22919116
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>>22919151
You all are gay nigger babies. The Ancient Romans were clearly lizard people. Get your facts straight stupid niggers.

>>22919170
Looks creative to a point of obession.

>>22919152
>adopt is priests clothing
>adopt its architecture
>use its infrastructure until it falls apart due to yahwehs will and your high iq
>spend a millenia keeping the white niggers illiterate of what is written in the jewish book, because once literacy took due to needing to train the white niggers to be better slaves they started asking uncomfortable questions about yahwehs will and your divine right as his mortal mouthpiece

as mentioned above, it's just a phase.

>>22919180
Oh your jewdar isn't broken, you're just a lying jew slandering a European man. lmfao.

>>22919182
It's true no matter how you want to paint it.

>>22919184
what?

>>22919100
average uneducated mutt brainwashed by video edits
incredible

>>22919117
why mutts are so retarded and can't open a fucking book
WHY
20 years on pol and it got so much worse
you must be a newfag, it's not possible to be THAT retarded

>>22919185
>13%ahekenazi
you are a jew

>>22919109
to be fair some nordic peple have curly hair which is weird

>>22919100
Sure, buddy

>>22919099 (OP)
somebody post the webm of the eyetie gymnast stretching
(You) know the one

>>22919099 (OP)
>>22919106
Excuse me wtf is this?

>>22919099 (OP)
Didn’t they fight wars against the latins?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman–Latin_wars

You tell me

>>22919119
I want to look more like Augustus yet I probably look more like Hadrian

>>22919117
>look germanic
LITERALLY no german looks like that

especially not today's germans.
Look at these statues >>22919119
Nicolas Cage looks like he could be one of them. But Nicolas Cage is also italian, lmao.

Modern italians are heavily mixed, but that is a logical consequence of forming an empire that reaches to north africa and asia to northwest europe. and then being invaded by germanic tribes. Yet acting like the ancient DNA is completely wiped out or gone is a retarded cope. And even worse is to say they were germanics to begin with, when more thing speak against it than for it. If germanics were the ancient romans, or even the ancient greeks, there should be a large chunk of ancient greek DNA (from ancient graves/bodies found in Greece) in modern populations from northeurope. But there is NONE. So if there are no germans or brits with ancient roman or ancient greek DNA, how could they have be them?

You like to think of that also because Italy currently isn't doing that much on a global scale. But do Germans create classical music? Do germans write Poems still? NO? So are there 0% germans from 300-400 years ago?

Times change

>>22919140
I love asian girls so much is unreal

>>22919109
Rome is still alive.

>>22919196

I hate to tell you this but Germany today is also mixed. Hunnic from the east, med from the south. The soccer player you posted is a pure german. Guys like pic related are germanic mutts.

>>22919111
look like "romans" to me

>>22919115
>I can shave her.

>>22919100
romanians are the descendants of the romans retard

>>22919200
every other italian looks like that

>>22919204

Exactly, a mutt. Do Germans/Austrians actually think they are exempt from the mutt question?

>>22919198
Post more

>>22919122
>Northern Italians, aka actual Italians, are very germanic looking.
Fucking American school system. At the end of the Empire, as the West was riven by various Germanic tribes, a tribe called the Lombards came and settled the northern part of the peninsula. That is why northern Italy is called Lombardy. In addition, northern Italy was always more Gaulish than Latin. You are an idiot if you think Romans were Germanics, although the southern extremities of Italy have been blacked over the centuries.

>>22919196
I think that poster may have been confused as there is significant evidence for the early ones clustering with central Europeans, and the people living in those regions today would call themselves Germans or Austrians. Either way geneflow one way does not mean geneflow the other way. Ofc in the case of Greece they actually have found individuals from the bronze age (which was when the steppe people invaded that region) who had genetic profiles similar to Norwegians (50% eef 50% steppe), which makes sense since the previous population in Greece was largely eef. With that said even in the mycenean days the Greeks were only around 17% steppe on avg. Because so many on here are passing off the bs that modern populations are exactly the same as ancient ones it's important to note that at the time steppe ppl were not turks Mongols, but caucasoid.

>>22919143
Ah a fellow Spenglerian

>>22919207
>>bitchs don't know about Muh visigoth invasions

There were MULTIPLE visigoth rulers, hence why shitalians have been germanium over the span of time. Not to mention when they fucked up royally in germania.

>>22919200
The thing hummels is an outlier same way german looking people are outliers in Italy
there are like 5 ethno linguistic groups in Yurope and all these groups fit in two categories whitey passing and med passing

>>22919200
I know Germany is mixed and looks different in each region. The eastern ones are heavily slavic-russian mixed, going so far that they're names aren't even german. And I'm not speaking of the russian-germans, but the ones mixed sicne generations with a germanized slavic name.

Isn't Mats from Bavaria? They are darker, have at times curly hair. They sure looks different from the people from Schleswig-Holstein or even Hamburg.

The point still stands:
If modern germans or any other germanic nation was the real descandants of romans, they'd have ancient roman DNA in them. If though modern italians have a large part of ancient roman DNA in them, well then the opposite seems to be the case.

And the same thing for ancient greeks, which, if you look at the globe, is even a lot further south(east). Italy isn't even that south. Rome is more northern than most of Greece and a large part of Spain.

>>22919159
>The ancient Roman historian Suetonius describes the appearance of Gaius Julius Caesar as follows: “They say he was tall, fair-skinned, well-built, with a full face, black and lively eyes

>>22919212
sicilians are browner than anyone in greece

>>22919100
we wuz Caesar and shiet

>>22919215
Augustus was attested to be blonde with Grey eyes.

>>22919216
Well subflavian so light brown or dirty blonde.

>>22919212

I always see lines drawn in Europe from North to South, I rarely see West to East. This is quite troubling.

my ancestors were the founding patricians. Italo-Celtic stock. paternal line from Biella in the Italian Alps

t. R1b U152 z36

>>22919218
You're also american and have literally 0 clue about Europe. Why would you not draw a line west to east? The Spanish are not like Greeks. Italians are much closer to greeks in culture and genetics. And above Greece is a whole block of Slavs which are not the same like the French.

And the southerners (Spain-Italy-Greece (can include the Balkan too) are not like the Northeners.

Maybe somebody should post the mememap showing Europe and in which country a guest is offered food.

>>22919119
Fuck this is so fucking gay.

>>22919100
Ancient Greeks and Romans mostly had blonde hair and blue eyes. They were equivalent to the northern Germanics of today.

>>22919099 (OP)
Hairy?

>>22919220

In the UK and USA, we the draw the line at Berlin. Anything East of that is your problem.

>>22919191
that's 1700s or early 1800s. he's speaking over a 1000 years ago

>>22919198
I know two people who are getting pussy tonight

>>22919225
wdym?

>>22919174
Do you retards think meds are black? Most italians have light skin you dumb fuck, hell most of med europe has light skin. The only "browner" skins are the extreme south like sicily where they fucked with niggers.

>>22919228

not black or white, as a balkan this should be common knowledge

>>22919227
looks like a tan white guy. she's straight up white.
look at the Scandinavian nose?
now compare to the nose of >>22919191
Need I say more?

>>22919229
Actually they and we are whiter than you faggot. I cant even go on the sun for more than 15 min or i will burn.

>>22919224
Mad how you fuckers are so concerned about meds while being a non white nation at this point
How many whitey left in America again
UK will be also joining le 46% face group picrel

>>22919230
>Scandinavian nose
LOL

Here's me btw, with my germanic waifu. Cope and Seethe. My skin is like in the meme below, kek.

Retarded burgers with their nonstop revisionism going as far as to think you are a continuation of Rome.

>>22919228
>Most italians have light skin you dumb fuck, hell most of med europe has light skin.
Anon compared with ethnic westoids they don't have light skin and
Not even the same features

This is the true Italian from pre Rome times. They were known The Dindu Nuffini Romana

>>22919231
>I cant even go on the sun for more than 15 min or i will burn.

and that is a good thing?

>>22919133
jewslop post

>>22919099 (OP)
squid games

>>22919151
His hair doesn't match up, his real hair was probably greasy as fuck.

>>22919234
I've been to Italy countless times, I've been to Angloand too.
The only difference is Italians dress better and look nicer, anglos are fat and Norf-like.

>>22919234
>>22919240
But tan-wise the average anglo is maybe 2% whiter, basically no difference. if that's what westoids are holding on to, that's just pathetic lol

>>22919099 (OP)
Dennis Hopper was correct after all. You can see his whole monologue in her DNA.

https://youtu.be/1etPoP4GDs8?t=394

>>22919121
You knew Marcus aurelius?!

>>22919099 (OP)
Terronia is a Roman Empire creation.

>>22919198
I got hard despite hating gays.
What does that mean?

>>22919244
Green areas are not really Italian - never have been.

>>22919246
Germans are truly pathetic landgrabbers.

>>22919108
You’re a moron

They were preceded by the Etruscans. You have marble busts of Romans that you can look at. They were not Germanic. The Germanic peoples are the ones who invaded and destroyed Rome, not niggers. Nice try faggot. Read a fucking book, I’m sure Connecticut or whatever bubble you live in has libraries nearby. If not I’m sure you’ve gathered a big pdf collection you’ve never actually read in all the time you’ve diligently spent not going outside or socializing offline.

Try not to be so gay your whole life. It’s a choice.

>>22919247
you're a spic

>>22919249
Nope.

>>22919244
How is Lombady 52 Italy Iron Age when everybody claims they are germanic?

Now I'd like to see the same thing with germany, the UK and Scandinavia and how much Italy Iron Age DNA there is.

>>22919239
If I don’t shampoo my hair for like 2 days I literally have the same hair

The people in here talking shit on meds and Italians are big gay fags that are probably statistically average manlets with sweaty palms and limp wrists.

I will pray for their deliverance.

>>22919228
That "extreme south" covers all of Greece, Turkey, Portugal, and Spain, most of Italy, and even some of southern France. It's common that off-whites think they are actually European. This explains why you think southern Italians are white. Your probable Ottoman mutt admixture has clouded your judgment.

>>22919252
>If I don’t shampoo my hair for like 2 days I literally have the same hair
Same here, that's how i knew it.

>>22919254
>octavian was a fucking pole
fuck

>>22919255
Having greasy hair somehow equals being Pole?

>>22919251
This Italy Iron Age DNA trait has a lot of Bell Beaker peoples who spoke Paleo-European languages like Ligurian, Etruscan, Camunic and Rhaetian. So it's indeed old. Only a part of the North has Germanic admixture, mostly from Ostrogoths.

>>22919241
>>22919240
Anon you're straight up delusional
whitey gets roasted like a pig if he steps outside in a mild warm country like Greece or Italy country which is not the case for us or meds

>>22919241
Naples is absolutely grotesque. They have a lot of brown people who look like an admixture of Levantine, Greek and some Caucasus. Some other cities down South are like that too. I think that you're probably exaggerating because there are a lot of dysgenic celtic people in England.

>>22919255
>>22919151

Here's my nephew. Not german. Shiiiiiiet.

>>22919099 (OP)
They would lament not salting the rest of those niggers' fields.

>>22919099 (OP)
That they look a little swarthy for their tastes.

>>22919252
>The people in here talking shit on meds and Italians are big gay fags that are probably statistically average manlets with sweaty palms and limp wrists.
Italians are not interchangeable with bongs and krauts thus being non white
bongs americans even have ethnic slurs for Italians
Whitey pretends Italians are white only to claim the legacy of Rome and ancient Greece as their own
before Rome whitey were living exactly like niggers in mud huts

>>22919109
Those statues are white as fuck, idk what you're talking about Anon.

>>22919253
This is clearly d&c stuff, but it should probably be pointed out that germanics also have some admixture from groups that don't include eef or indo european.

>>22919099 (OP)
They would confuse them Cartagenians or Punics or Pheonicians

>>22919099 (OP)
They'd think they look too white.
The reason Augustus replaced mudshitbricks and cow dung houses with marble on Rome was because romanians were so black that they consumed all the sun, the best negromajic scientistmen told him people are evolving into being blind like cave animals because of it, marble at least made the city slightly brighter. All anti-nordicists itt will confirm what I say.

>>22919265
>This is clearly d&c stuff
Wrong
half of Yurope isn't white

Reminder

>>22919099 (OP)
Eating pizza and seeing a Ferrari drive by would blow their mind, though they'd be disappointed about their performance in World War II.

>>22919267
Actually they took marble, cause they were so white, they wanted the sun to reflect from every surface, for the perfect tan.

Reminder, every people have ugly specimen.

>>22919268
Are yoy saying you're included in the group that's not?

>>22919272
Yes

>>22919099 (OP)
Roman men were only 5'2" tall.

>>22919225
That’s Roman era.

>>22919273
Yum beefsteak.

>>22919099 (OP)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0DExjsAJpI

>>22919271
Cool now let's see the one from Italy

>>22919131
We are outside fucking most of the time, why would I care about an empire of 2000 years ago?

well they would think of all modern people as without virtue i think they would like italians the most cause italians love to scam/steal/plot/backstab - just like the romans did. no hate btw to any italiananons, shit i wish i could be like that sometimes, but its not in my nature.

>>22919279
What are you waiting for

>>22919282
I literally don't know what you want from me and why you post russians.

>>22919100
based and redpilled anon.
suetonius describes the majority of first 12 caesars having blonde hair and blue or gray eyes

>>22919280
God does.

>>22919131
a lot of the discussions about Italy would come off as strange and foreign to Italians. like talking about the "white race" and "non-white race" categorize Italian regions to it, the obvious implication being if they're not white they're black (sicilians are niggers). that's lazily humourous to an america because they live next to blacks, but in Italy they don't so it wouldn't be funny or make sense. it is also an exagerration because the non-white admixture would be arab due to proxity, some of who are catholic such as Lebanon. this is ignoed by Americans because it means nothing to them like talking about bantus to Italians so it's not even being reflective of Italy's geography.

with rome a lot of memes about it that are in our lexicon such as the "fall of rome" come from anglo sources, like Rise of Fall of Rome comes from Edward Gibbons to compare it to Anglo societies. there is no work about it in Italy so it's not part of their culture to talk about. they don't know what you're talking about basically even if they spoke English.

all in all Italian posting probably doesn't make sense to Italians.

>>22919286
sicilians in new york outearn anglo americans

>>22919283
that identitarian march pic from Italy posted on Twatter

>>22919109
This is terroni copium. Iron Age Italy was settled by what became the Villanovan culture, which branched out from Urnfield culture in Central Europe. It later became the Etruscan civilization, which greatly influenced the prowess of the budding Roman Republic, eventually developing into the Roman Empire. Rome was the first city beyond the Tiber River to be incorporated in the Etruscan expansion after 750 BC. They were Bell Beakers. Same goes for the Umbrians, Ligurians and Samnites. Those were normal looking Alpinid Europeans.
Early European farmers and Anatolian Neolithic farmers accounted for most of the Greek and the majority of the Balkans, but the Greeks had a lot of colonies in the Far South of Italy around the same time (750 BC). Those were olive skinned people with dark eyes and dark hair, despite a relevant presence of Yamnaya people in their dominant elites and warriors.

>>22919289
>Later became the Etruscan
You mean those guys?

>>22919287
Sicily is a small region compared to Italy, it's literally its own island. Sicilian language is also different to Italian if Americans could even speak either, which they probably don't anymore so how much connection can they still have to a country that hardly speaks English, the poorest region of that country no less?

Americans might be trying to establish some kind of colony in Sicily by talking about it so much, but they do it be just calling them niggers non-stop? Sicily is already a dump so they're not really helping or adding much.

>ok ok, they were not white
>b-but their elites and warriors
get the fuck outta here, greeks called people just a few kilometers northern barbarians. Even thracians were called barbarians by them.

>>22919286
>>22919291
Chat gpt nigger bot

>>22919292
That's very funny. It's not what I said at all. Many EEF/ANF were what you would consider White, as they came from the Caucasus like the Yamnaya.

>>22919099 (OP)
moors

>>22919099 (OP)
pathetic

>>22919294
They were not white, that's the point. They had olive skin, fitting to the climate. Like those Etruscans you claimed came from central europe, even though this is disputed. I posted >>22919290
Are you gonna say now that these guys look White?

>>22919100
WE WUZ ROMANZ N SHIEEET

>>22919293
Sicilian threads every day and I'm the bot?

>>22919193
Malignant melanoma

>>22919227
>>22919260
>>22919275
>>22919290
>>22919297
Why are you implying that painting of people with brown hair equates to a people not being White?

>>22919193
nice trips

Looks like a mole. She should probably get it frozen off just to be safe.

>>22919193
niggerspot

just google 'roman paintings' stupid chudcels

>>22919301
Because, my brazilian friend, people here, especially from northwest europe and even more so the US, say these people are not white. For them white is blonde and pale skin. Maybe they are DC shills, nobody can tell, I don't care. We have to take what's being said here for granted.

>>22919099 (OP)
they'd believe the ancient rapefugees from syria, palastina and egypt won out in the end

>>22919305
Do Americans think that Roger Federer is not White?

we wuz niggers

>>22919301
See, when somebody creates this>>22919306
Do you think >>22919290
or picrel is white?

>>22919307
I don't know, but they'll bend their definition of white, when he's exceptional at something.

>>22919309
that afro tho

>>22919307
If Kanye West would be more aggressive towards Jews and actually cause some change, he'd be considered white. In 200 years they'll take pictures of him and lighten them up, do AI reconstructions and changes like >>22919151
so that he looks white.

vikingoids btof again

>>22919099 (OP)
They would think, fuck! The Africans won

>>22919305
high school in Palermo, Sicily

>>22919099 (OP)
Cucks

>>22919310
it's curly hair not an afro

>>22919099 (OP)
>What are my slaves doing outside the fences?!

>>22919314
Looks about 50/50 White and not
Pretty much as expected

>>22919314
school in britain :D

>>22919316
genuinely cannot believe that there is unironic "we wuz italians n sheet" in this world

>>22919314
>>22919290
Etruscans thousand of years ago
Also: >>22919227

>>22919316
Lol lmao.

>>22919308
>Hang around outside 19 hours a day bc you're a soldier and A/C cooled Humvees haven't been invented yet
>As a result you get a pretty good tan going
>2000 years later some retard forever online sees your mosaic
>Ha! Nigger!

>>22919322
>>22919316
we wuz big nosers

>>509988321
"italy" is a fake and gay nation

the white people from the city of Venezia have little to do with the moors of Sicily

>>22919330
sicilians are whiter than you spic

>>22919322
kek, exactly :D

also this mentally ill MENA invader in germany (probably) >>22919323 keeps posting in these threads using different flags, most often usa, germany, and brazilian, i think the german is his correct one because a rapefugee seethe is oozing from his posts

he keeps posting pics like this then he is saying they are "roman paintings", failing to mention they are "roman" paintings FROM THE COLONY OF EGYPT :D
its like taking paintings of pajeets in india and saying these are "anglo paintings"

it would be hilarious if it wasnt so tiring this dude has been on this same bullshit for at least two years now

>>22919330
Left killed a guy for no valid reason
Right killed a guy for all the reasons

lmao

>>22919333
Seethe irrelevant snownigger fingolmutt

>>22919320
the thing is in USA you are fucking retarded and dont understand ethnicity at all. like you call everyone 'hispanic' if they speak spanish whether its a White Spaniard or a native south american or some nigger-jew mutt result of jewish slavers raping their slaves

that you think italians are "swarthy" because your mental image of "italian" is the guys from the sopranos, newsflash they are not italian and never were they just pretend to be. like pointed out itt they could be anything from mena slave descendants during roman empire times, to the descendants of mena invasions of moors and aghdalibs to sicily and southern italy, to jewish or arab merchants or others that have slithered in during the centuries or recently

there were also invasions in spain from moors and then into greece and balkans and now these invaders have made up this distinction of "meds" as if they were always there, even though J- and E- male lineages were never part of ancient europe and did not develop here
also jews were involved in literally every single one of these invasions, often even first in as the fifth column an helping the invaders and joining them in exchange for loot and good positions in the new government. like in the famous battle of cordoba when moors invaded spain, the jews opened the gates in the night because one of them were right by the jewish quarter, which then lead to the entire city, delivering an important win to the invading moors

this is why you get a lot of jews and crypto jews pretending to be everything from spaniards to italians to greeks because they were once helping invading them, and raping the women of slain men created rapebabies that are now called "ashkenazi" jews
then of course their migratory gypsy behaviour lead them everywhere else in europe too eventually
to the point you now have some arabs saying that "jews are achsually from poland" or something to that retarded, its like saying gypsies are from finland because we have them here

>>22919339
oh you finally changed to your correct flag
why aren't you still going home? don't you think its time

hy a White country instead of the Gulf Arab countries?
Many of them are richer than White countries due to massive amounts of oil, and they live a true Arab lifestyle there.

Only canaanite DNA countries that are doing well are the Gulf countries, and that is only because they have oil.
There are no arabic or jewish products on the planet that anybody wants, they cannot produce anything with their own labor.

Pic rel is saudi-arabia before oil, a land of mud huts and sand niggers.
They are exactly the same camel jockeys today too, the only difference is that because Whites invented tools how to find oil, how to extract it, all the equipment to process it, all the cars and planes to transport it, down to the machinery that uses it.
And then all the infrastructure, all the buildings are designed by White engineers and built by SEA slaves while the arabkikes sit like effendi and eat.

So why not go there with your own kind, why not go to other Arab countries, why a White country?

Swedes are more similar with Russian than with you. KEKlmao, irrelevant nation with no history. The only thing you are known for is Sauna and your q3.14 prime minister.

Even Italians have more genetic similarity with other Europeans than you mongoloids up there.

>>22919345
Stfu you fucking loser I'm not reading all that.

You have to be mentally ill to genuinely believe Greeks and Italians were blonde and blue eyed.

The fact is they were "brown" and built civilization while the "racially superior" blondes lived in huts.

Calm down, you have plenty to be proud of you. You fucking losers need to off yourselves trying to steal a culture that isn't yours.

>>22919297
>fitting to the climate
you people are always so fucking retarded you think that world was always like it is today
the development of a race happens in timeframe of thousands of years
and when the european races incl. romans developed their remains found from 30,000 years ago
in those times south italy was a boreal forest akin to finland, north italy was a snowy tundra and when you got to poland and everything north from that was entirely covered in ice and uninhabitable
so the people evolved to a forest and tundra dwelling environment

>30,000 years ago
Unironically clinically mentally ill

>>22919351
nobody said they were "all blonde and blue-eyed" only some of them were
There is a wide variety of hair from dark brown to platinum blonde and variety of eye colors too in Europeans, Europe is a diverse place
What wasn't though was negro features of semites like black afros

its not a matter of debate either we know all this by not only DNA but also from contemporary descriptions, from statues and art

>Statues
>with no color
meanwhile >>22919290
>ignored

>>22919354
Take your meds buddy. If what you were saying was true the whole world would know about it. Especially since Anglos ruled the world in recent history. But they still couldn't claim that history. Because it's not theirs.

You're a schizophrenic retard.

>>22919354
also obviously being in the fucking sun with 300+ sunny days makes them have bronze tanned skin throughout the entire year

pic rel is avg finn phenotype but he lives in california and gets a lot of sun so he is quite brown
in fact if you go around finland in late summer, even now, lot of people have got lot of sun and have become browner than many of the mena invaders that dont tan as much, which is quite funny

and no this isnt saying that nordics are same as romans its a low resolution view on race, we're all European but we can all be divided into subraces who all look different
its just saying all europeans with the exception of redhead celts do tan, and if you put a nord to live in south of italy he will become brown
and if you took italian and bring him to finland he will be very white during the dark winter time

>>22919358
All Europeans do know this. Its just you Americans over there who are retarded.
Its uncontested historical knowledge backed up by DNA evidence. Not to mention that Europeans have developed an eye for ethnicity because we are not a mutt land

Then you list shitskin MENA invader shills donning European flags here making shit up, because they're trying to pilpul themselves as Europeans, not too dissimilar to kikes that pretend to be White.
Except the arabs do it the other way around, they dont pretend to be White, but they pretend as if greeks/italians/spaniards are arabs.
Its all exceptionally retarded, but many retards especially from there in americas gobble it all up

>>22919360
anon is VERY upset that his ancestors shit in the forest

>>22919363
all europeans know what? that you're a fat loser in your moms basement shit posting about how rome was actually run by germanics when that is literally historically impossible?

>>22919227
Do you not see the untanned skin tone is pale?

>>22919347
Yeah we shoot to the side due to the ANE component that was picked up during the journey here some 20,000-30,000ya

We've literally had this exact same conversation several times yet you keep posting the same bullshit over and over pretending as if you didn't hear anything.
You even once clipped this graph deliberately so it would miss the part of how extremely zoomed in it needs to be to even show the differences because Europeans cluster so close together, just to push disingenuous bullshit

>>22919347
Kek, this dude just keep on going. For a year now spamming the same bullshit, over and over and over.
Truly jewish/arabic behaviour, I'm 100% sure its a MENA shitskin invader in Germany

>>22919159
Looks fair-skinned.

>>22919369
He's literally retarded. As mentioned, if germanics were ancient romans, there should be a lot more similar DNA in northwestern european populations, but there isn't. It is distinct, cause Romans were a different people.

>>22919378
Yet the finns are out of the line.
>>22919381
Luckily I don't screen your posts otherwise my harddrive would be full. I mean, you do realize these post are replies towards you, which means you are there too and it is directed at you?

>>22919384
>>22919381
Which in turn means, they are posted because you are sperging out over south europeans as per usual. Today you were late.

Look at the post
>You
>You
>You
>You
all directed at (You)
KEK

>>22919369
No you are building a strawman like a shitskin-jew.
Nobody said Rome was ruled by Germanics before the Roman Empire fell. Then it was passed on of many rulers, visigoths, franks, etc.

Nobody said that Romans were Nordic either, thats another strawman you shitskins push.
All that was ever said is that Romans were and are White, they were and are European, just like all the other European tribes are.

Picrel is what typical Italian male looks like, while females are >>22919345
They do not look like Arabs. They are not Arabs.

In fact not even Levant used to be arabic, it used to be roman and largely greek. And in Turkey, their current capital of Ankara was built by Celts of all people, those who live in Ireland today.
Constantinople which the invaders renamed to Istanbul, was built by Romans, and the greatest church in the world Hagia Sophia was build by Justinian I. The loss of that to the turkic-arabic invaders and Hagia sophias crude conversion to a mosque is a crime against humanity.

So if anything, Whites used to be spread further out than today, and shitskins have always been encroaching towards our lands. Europe is just the place where they were managed to be kept out

>Nobody said Rome was ruled by Germanics before the Roman Empire fell
>Nobody said Rome was ruled by Germanics before the Roman Empire fell

>>22919100
>>22919108
>>22919112
>>22919114
>>22919117

>>22919384
>cause Romans were a different people.
Yep and nobody claimed otherwise. Romans, just like Celts, Iberians, Greeks, Nordics, Finns, Franks, Normans, etc. are all different peoples. All are European. None of them are from MENA.
Is crazy that you keep spouting bullshit as if being a different European race means they were fucking ARABS, KEKK

Its time for you to go to your own fucking home, kek

Said the asiatic invader with uralic language

>>22919398
If you could read and would not be a low-IQ mentally-ill shitskin living on the gibs given to you by hard-working Germans
You'd notice that none of those posts claimed the Romans WERE Germanics. Just that they would pass as Germanics, and were similar in appearance
Which is correct

You are literally a gap between Swedes and Russians. LOL Russians are closer to Swedes than Swedes are to you or Russians are to you. Germans are closer to Italians than to you.

>ust that they would pass as Germanics, and were similar in appearance
>Which is correct
LOL, no.

>>22919400
you are the retards who claim that black hair black eyed Italians are not the same peoples as those who lived there centuries ago, that they are pure arab mutts, or are "invaders" and that the civilization could not possibly have built by them because why? because you are born into an anglo-dominant and anglo-controlled world where you are unable to imagine a time when where lighter colors were simply not seen as superior like they are now. but there is no such thing, it's just propaganda. if the roles were reversed and germanics had started civilization but "romans" dominated the current era, you can bet your ass you would have grown up in a world where blonde hair would be seen as ugly, unintelligent, and inferior. it's simple race relations, we all believe we are the superior race, and project that image onto others. it's just a matter of whether you actually have the power and influence to actually make others believe it.

>>22919400
kys
>>22919312

>>22919402
Yeah indeed we picked up an ANE component on the way when Yamnaya i.e. the ancestors of Europeans spread to diff directions, we also have less WHG than mainland Europeans so we have more Yamnaya ancestry.
The language is interesting we did indeed seemed to have take the language base from Sami who are different, Siberian people, and combined it with mostly proto-Germanic.
Interestingly we have lot of words which stopped usage in proto-Germanic 2000 years ago already, yet we still use it today. In fact lot of our words have remained unchanged for thousands of years, when in pretty much any other language the words have changed a lot, its a strange peculiarity.

We've literally had this exact same conversation several times do you shitskins really have that short of a memory, because you keep talking about the same points over and over.

The important point here is that I live in land where we came 10,000 years ago and we built it, our ancestors built it for their children for posterity to my great grandfathers and grandfathers to fathers and me and my children and grandchildren and so on for posterity.

You on the other hand came 3 years ago in a jewish NGO boat from syria because you decided to swap being in ISIS to become a rapefugee, and now you live on gibs in Germany in a land that was bled for by Germans in a society by Germans.
And you pretend that you belong there, that me being in Finland where I belong is the same as you in Germany, in the home of Germans, which you are not.

You keep repeating this bullshit over and over and over. Then you pretend as if you never heard the answers to your previous "arguments" and you start over again, spouting the same bullshit.

The following quote is about jews, but it matches perfectly to their brother arabs too, youre just as disingenuous

>>22919422

The more I argued with Jews, the better I came to know their dialectic. First they counted on the stupidity of their adversary, and then, when there was no other way out, they themselves simply played stupid. If all this didn't help, they pretended not to understand, or, if challenged, they changed the subject in a hurry, quoted platitudes which, if you accepted them, they immediately related to entirely different matters, and then, if again attacked, gave ground and pretended not to know exactly what you were talking about. Whenever you tried to attack one of these apostles, your hand closed on a jelly-like slime which divided up and poured through your fingers, but in the next moment collected again. But if you really struck one of these fellows so telling a blow that, observed by the audience, he couldn't help but agree, and if you believed that this had taken you at least one step forward, your amazement was great the next day. The Jew had not the slightest recollection of the day before, he rattled off his same old nonsense as though nothing at all had happened, and, if indignantly challenged, affected amazement; he couldn't remember a thing, except that he had proved the correctness of his assertions the previous day. Sometimes I stood there thunderstruck. I didn't know what to be more amazed at: the agility of their tongues or their virtuosity at lying. Gradually I began to hate them.

tldr, unironically

>>22919414
those are the same fayum portraits from EGYPT not italy, which that mentally ill shitskin keeps posting even though it has been multiple times pointed out to him.
He keeps pretending they are "roman" he's been doing this same fucking shit for at least two years now

This was already pointed out in >>22919333
read the thread before posting retard

The fayyum poster is not me btw, you paranoid schizoid snownigger. He's claiming they were romans, I don't do that. I know they are egyptians(-greeks).

Yet still you will claim that ancient egyptians were white or bring aliens into the game, kek.

>>22919434
Ancient egyptians i.e. not roman era but pharaoh era egyptians were possibly white, possibly not. They were R1b which would put them in same DNA group as western europeans but dna obviously is complex and haplogroup is just one part.
In any case the arab egyptians that were already there during roman times were new people, not the same people as 3000 years before them ancient pharaoh era egyptians.
Again this is not a matter of debate the DNA samples from mummies from that time prove it, there is no genetic connection between these two peoples.
Arabs and niggers did exist in egyptians time too, and they were their enemies.
The invader arabs did ultimately prevail, there is nothing recorded about it though so its unknown whether they just killed all the egyptians, or did the egyptians die of some disease or something.
But in any case the ancient egyptians are long dead, and the arabs took their place, and now we wuz as if they were the original people.
Even though once again DNA proves they are not.

It almost seems like the arab tactic is to take over lands of other peoples, and not say that "we conquered these", but that "we are the original people" (that we in reality wiped out)

Even today it seems very genetical to your kind, considering that you're here today shilling and pretending that you belonged in southern Europe, which you never did.
I wonder if in 2000 years from now you will be pretending that you are the original people of germany? maybe sweden too?

>>22919413
>unable to imagine a time
the thing is which you browns never get that this is not about imagination.
This is about DNA and recorded history and facts.
Romans were not arabs. They were white people with light hair colors ranging from dark brown to blonde.
This has been pointed out ITT and all these fucking threads that keep being posted all the fucking time.

Your lack of historical knowledge and inability to research, dismissing all arguments and believing in your own imagination instead is why we think you are inferior.
Because you are emotionality-coded instead of rationality-coded

>>22919479
>inb4 history is written by victors
We are not talking about depictions written by Germanics as if they changed Romans to be White.
No we are talking about contemporary depictions of Romans describing themselves, from surviving sources that the Romans and Greeks themselves wrote

And again, then there is the DNA evidence. And all the statues and art too. None of them look even remotely arab its very clear from ALL the sources they all paint very clear picture of what the Romans were like.
And are like. Those who are actually descended from them.

>>22919470
I didn't say modern egyptians are ancient egyptians either. Just that they were not white.

Arab here, arab there. You are mindbroken.

>>22919485
ignore him
https://archive.4plebs.org/_/search/image/aaVJnmjKZdbSefuEJh3ShA/

>>22919486
kek

>>22919099 (OP)
Every damn time
https://youtu.be/mbWtPdRDyXc

>>22919485
Yeah its arabs/jews ie canaanites who are pushing for this bullshit "med" narrative, who else, its they who are trying to we wuz.
You are arab youself, and youre doing that
If you were some other type of invader like chink or pajeet or nigger or whatever, no reason would be to push bullshit that arabs are achsually european

>>22919484
>Just that they were not white.
And how do you know that? The only thing known is their DNA, not their skin color. And the fact they at least considered themselves lighter than semites and negros
But thats it, we dont know any more. R1b suggests it could be white, but also possibly not
since R1b exists not only in western europe, but strangely also in west africa

>>22919099 (OP)

"We worship Gods who guide us and give us strength and glory. You worship a kike on a stick. You are shameful."

>>22919513
Wrong.

>>22919518
go back to cirno

>>22919520

Wtf are you talking about?

>>22919517
>Considered themselves lighter than semites
Wtf are you talking about. Do you have ANY depiction of an egyptian with light hair?

>>22919522
>>22919452

>>22919523
Just one picture please.

please

kys

>>22919099 (OP)

>that pic

BUILT FOR BBC