Thread 22939570

I find myself now, at 21, in the exact same place I was 4 years ago. Unemployed, broke, no social life, single, brooding alone in my parents' house while listening to Tchaikovsky, using 4chan again. The only difference is that now I have a college degree. What are the political implications of this?

why don't you use that degree to get a job and quit moaning

>>22939570 (OP)

Tchaikovsky is kinda gay, bro. What is your degree?

>>22939570 (OP)
That guy looks like Q.

>>22939573
>Tchaikovsky is kinda gay
He was more than kinda gay lol
>degree
Math and CS

>>22939574
>That guy
Most cultured American

Imagine how somebody who wasn't you but was in the same position as you would go about getting a job

>>22939575

Oh shit, I didnt realise he was literally a sodomite. Makes sense. Why don't you listen to a hetero composer like Mozart

>>22939570 (OP)
I made it out of NEETdom and am strongly considering going back to it.

>>22939575
>Math and CS
Don’t be a geek! Don’t be a nerd! Don’t be into nerdy shit! Stop doing that! That’s the problem!

Abandon video games
Abandon anime
Abandon heavy metal
Abandon thinking everyone’s a “foolish mortal.”
Abandon anything that seems sophisticated and too good for plebs.

Be a “Normie” because guess what? They’re the ones who are well-adjusted. Nerds and geeks are genetic dead-ends. Don’t be that.

>>22939570 (OP)
>not listening to Beethoven

Ngmi.

>>22939578
>Why don't you listen to a hetero composer like Mozart
Not Romantic enough. At least suggest a contemporary of Tchaikovsky lol.

>>22939570 (OP)
Yeah bro. 24 and joined the navy 6 years ago. Out now and kinda over these bourgeoisie expectations. Need to see interesting things again, just without being a zogbot or feeling like a wageslave. I camp a lot and spend much of my time off grid but there is something missing. Social life also isn't easy when peers are so two dimensional. The sea was simpler.
I'll probably become a monk at the rate I'm going.

>>22939577
The only friend of mine with a job is the only white guy there, and his work is so mind-numbing he wants to blow his brains out.

>>22939570 (OP)
>What are the political implications of this?
Now, you should be fully aware of exactly how fucked you are.
Get right with Jesus.
There is no other hope.

>>22939580
Normies don't exist anymore. Only terminally online TikTokers and terminally online 4channers.

>>22939580
>Just be Chad bro
(*sigh*)
It doesn't work that way. You don't choose to be a nerd dumbass. No one wants to be a dorky computer geek with glasses. No one chooses the thug life, the thug life chooses them. If everyone had a choice they would choose to be a jacked super model or porn star fucking 24/7, but that reality is obviously not true for most people.

>>22939585
If Jesus is truly God and we must believe in him, then why isn't the evidence more ovevrwhelming? Most people don't have the time nor capability to critically analyze historical evidence for his divineness. To be a Christian is to say that millions of well-intentioned people will be damned to hell because they weren't convinced of what is objectively a historical anecdote.

>>22939582

Rachmaninov then, faggot

Just become a chud

>>22939589
I like him too.

>>22939584
Work is a chore, but NEETing is soul crushing

>>22939570 (OP)
Don't ever stop working on yourself, AI wiped my dreams away as it completely fucked the illustration industry, about to turn 30 wishing I had picked up more than one skill. Also start putting money into ISA and safe stocks, don't be late like I was could have made bank by now.

>>22939590
I've been a chud and will continue to be a chud.

>>22939580
>genetics are a choice
lol, lmao even.

>>22939592
I was really happy for a bit after school ended, now the lack of social life is really crushing. None of my friends will even get on voice chat. Wish I had friends in my neighborhood.

>>22939570 (OP)
do what I did, anon

>get your CDL
>drive a truck for a living
>make lots of money

You don't even have to do the 'over-the-road' thing if you don't want to.
There are lots of driving jobs with local routes where you're home every day.

Just find a legit driving school like a local technical college.
They will defer payment until you get your first job.
Mine was a 10 week program, cost 3k and I had it paid off in the first couple months of work.

I only work four days a week and I make more money than every other job I ever had.

>>22939570 (OP)
There's definitely a collapse (of some kind) coming now
It could be a soft collapse
60% of zoomies are unable to find work
This is not a good sign

A few years of this and they're going to get more and more pissed off.
A good portion of people in their 30s are also pretty screwed.
Job satisfaction is going to plummet even if you have a job

>>22939588
>Most people don't have the time nor capability to critically analyze historical evidence for his divineness.
Bullshit.
You don't want to be proven wrong, because then you have to face the inevitable reality of judgment.
You hate God because you love your sin.
You want it more than you want Truth, so you somehow never find the time for Truth.

You will be damned to hell because you chose that over admitting what a piece of shit you are.
You reject God and He allows your freewill choice.
He agrees with you.
He lets you have it your way.
He has told you what waits for you.
He has made reconciliation for you.
YOU refuse it.

God is not the one at fault.
You are.

>>22939580
>Be a “Normie” because guess what? They’re the ones who are well-adjusted.
Yes, let's just be well adjusted to a dysfunctional society shitting the bed because that works, right? Wrong.

>>22939580
>Abandon video games
Haven't played one since last summer
>Abandon anime
Never watched it
>Abandon heavy metal
Because classical music is so much less nerdy...

>>22939599
>Bullshit
Do you understand how profound some people's grasp of logic is?
>You hate God because you love your sin
Christians sin just as much as non-religious people.

>>22939588
This is where faith comes into play, God also doesn't want robots. I don't believe anything on a basketweaving forum will really change you, but my turning point was realizing just how absolutely degenerate the alternative to Christianity is. I do not want to live in an liberal, atheistic, Muslim, or Hindu dystopia - because I've seen the fruits of these beliefs on the societal scale.

Hell is just the absence of God. If you don't like God and don't want to be around Him, he won't force you to. Absence of Gods love = pain. It's like running away from home as a kid and wondering why mom and dad aren't feeding you.. You ran away. They love you, but you have free will.

>>22939597
I refuse to work in a field that isn't intellectually stimulating.

>>22939580
Your average "normie" is a friendless incel who lives through digital images, AI bots, and pieces of text they call friends since social media.

>>22939596
im in my 30s and recently learned all the guys i grew up with in my neighborhood 20 years ago are/were always gay, two of them were sucking each other off
one of them became an unhinged leftist, another a drug dealing retard, the third just plain schizo or something, talked about demons telling him to hurt people and wrote me a fucking love letter

>>22939603
Many of the founding fathers were deists anon. You're not going to convince me of Christianity without convincing me of Christ. His role in the religion is central, and in my opinion the weakest link by far.

This situation has been created with AI as an excuse to wipe white-collar jobs
And put everyone back into blue-collar jobs, especially men.
But this time, your blue-collar job is barely going to pay rent and you'll be living like a slave.

AI can do a lot of work, but it's not nearly as good as they're saying. It's being used at the excuse to remove you from your job so you can be properly enslaved, which only a select elite work your old job and hard lock you out of your good job.

This is how the next generation of slavery occurs.

>>22939570 (OP)
lol same here. no one is hiring

>>22939570 (OP)
Anon, you should probably stop posting on imageboards altogether. Find a hobby, join the community around it, and socialize with real people. Just use fewer slurs with them than you'd use here.

>>22939571
see this: >>22939609

>>22939575
Go get a fintech job you idiot

>>22939598
>60% of zoomies are unable to find work
It wouldn't be this bad if it weren't for immigration. Pisses me off so much when people still talk about how we need more.

>>22939606
>wrote me a fucking love letter

POST IT IMMEDIATELY!!!

>>22939612
Great advice in 2014

>>22939604

trucking can be intellectuallly stimulating.
you can listen to audio books while your driving

>>22939616
I hate driving too much for this lol. I am not cut out for the trucker life.

>>22939602
>Do you understand how profound some people's grasp of logic is?
Agreed. This is why normies generally aren't supposed to do religion on their own, they ALWAYS revert to worshipping a golden calf. The standard in the old world for both the East (Orient) and West (Occident) was a religious class, the "first estate". In our age of democracy that has been swapped for the inferior "third estate" - the economic class. Normies are free to worship whatever they want in this age of nihilism, and this is precisely why we hurt.

I genuinely believe it is the responsibility for those of us with better perception and pattern recognition to guide the lost away from destruction.

>>22939570 (OP)
>I find myself now, at 32, in the exact same place I was 20 years ago. Unemployed, broke, no social life, single, brooding alone in my mom's house while listening to caramelldansen, using 4chan again. The only difference is that now I have a huge chub. What are the political implications of this?

>>22939614
lol i threw it out it was horrifying
it ended with
>i dont want to fuck, i want to make love x2
i am vomit
absolutely insane

and why you thought that your life would change after turning the magical number 21?

>>22939588
"Now faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen." Hebrews 11:1

It wouldn't be faith if we couldn't have doubts ask for the conviction of the Holy Spirit.

>>22939602
>Christians sin just as much as non-religious people.
Yes.

>Do you understand how profound some people's grasp of logic is?
I can see clearly how good your grasp on logic is.
You are defending your choice.
Remember this when you don't find yourself enjoying eternity.

>>22939570 (OP)
I like to hear a drive for improvement and accomplishment. And it’s sometimes good to beat yourself up if you deserve an ass kicking.
Be that as it may, you’re actually in pretty good shape. You already have your degree at 21? Congratulations.
But yeah, it’s time to get to work. It’s better to do a menial job while you search for a real opportunity. Opportunities happen when you stay in the mix in life. Opportunity does not come through the internet. Poo scammers come through the internet.
Moreover, any employer is going to look at you more favorably if you are already employed — no matter what you’re doing.
You’ll do fine.
Welcome to the real world.
Grades and results are vastly different things. That’s the first thing you’ll learn. Also, always make yourself valuable. That way, even if they hate you, you’re too much of a benefit to let goi

>>22939594
then you have your answer, nothing because nothing ever happens, especially not to chuddie like you and me.
Do you think these apes care what the difference between a holomorphic function and an analytic function in the complex domain?
We're different, anon. We are seen as useless to them, and we can either choose to be made miserable or to laugh at the absurd world. Face the mother Sophia, and become her kin.
And then you will conquer the world. I want to help save you, because you're like me. We're her children, we're brothers and I will hold my hand out for my brother.

>>22939588
are you serious?

>>22939618
I don't think you fully understand my point. It's that in Christianity, your redemption is an individualistic choice. This clashes with the reality of life for most people, that they don't have the time, energy, or intelligence to redeem themselves. If God truly wanted justice he wouldn't shut the door on these people.

>>22939620

Hahahaha. Very disappointing that we won't get the rest

>>22939570 (OP)
>Tchaikovsky
Did you just discover the 1812 overture, lil bro?

>>22939593
Same boat as me anon. I worked my ass off learning to draw, from 2015-2024. It was all pointless in the end. I still draw, as a NEET, but I can’t monetize my work enough for it to be worthwhile. Thinking of pivoting to selling oil paintings on ebay

>>22939629
I got into him from his 6th symphony, still my favorite piece of music of all time. I'm still a pleb though, only know like 10 pieces of his.

>>22939607
I see things the exact opposite. Jesus is far from an obstacle to my acceptance of Christianity, Jesus is my main enticement to it. Jesus was amazing.

>>22939622
Not an argument

>>22939632
>Jesus was amazing
That's not evidence that he is literally God incarnate. There were lots of amazing people across history.

>>22939628
something something something ive loved you for ten years
it was an attempt at poetry actually
it really fucked with my head when i found it. i felt sick and afraid for a little bit because it seemed so batshit

>>22939627
>people don't have the time, energy or intelligence to ask themselves what is the point of life, their existence, or where they will be after death
I'd disagree and say this is a question inherent to human life, one that people have wrestled with since the beginning of our recorded history. You are arguing from a reference point of "most people" which is too broad for me to accurately net.

>>22939572
Andy Dick's advice to Artie Lang ironically. The little jewish fatso Jon Lovitz beat the fuck out of him for it later.

>>22939570 (OP)
Depends on the degree you got. Let's hear it.

>>22939622
Faith is not his problem.
Pride is.
>>22939633

>>22939607
>You're not going to convince me of Christianity without convincing me of Christ. His role in the religion is central, and in my opinion the weakest link by far.
You reject the Door that you accuse God of not opening.
>>22939627
>If God truly wanted justice he wouldn't shut the door on these people.

If you were half as intelligent as you thought you were, you might at least not be damned AND miserable in the days you have left.

>>22939636
Not an excuse.

Whatever you paid to be indoctrinated, you got ripped off.

>>22939631
Oh the 6th? I don’t listen to romantic slop

>>22939609
>>22939570 (OP)
>>22939609
So many honey pots, shills, retards, and glowniggers. Who knows:
Answer to Faghot op. I’m 34, student loans paid, divorced, one daughter I see every other week and live m2m while I live in a condo while she kept the house and receives approximately 22% of each paycheck. Then the rest to 401k (IRS invention), boomers, and niggers/neets. I make an eighth of a million dollars a year and net after everything a beautiful daughter, a cunt ex, bootstrap boomer parents, and taking anything to fall asleep to wake up for work.
P.E. in Mechanical Engineering

>>22939641
You cannot get more Romantic than Tchaikovsky lmao

>>22939637
>which is too broad for me to accurately net
Christianity is a universalist religion.

>>22939639
Math and CS, already said it.

>>22939593
If it's any consolation I also am trying to be an illustrator, and my "sensible, real-world" side job got replaced by AI first. I've also been learning a language for a few years hoping to do translation work eventually, and guess what AI's doing to that industry too?

>>22939588
>why isn't the evidence more ovevrwhelming
are you sure you studied math?
Here let me try to nudge you in the right direction: think of if more like a symbolic algebra. Don't get confused by literalist protestants. Truth transcends something as tawdry as physical empiricism.
>To be a Christian is to say that millions of well-intentioned people will be damned to hell because they weren't convinced of what is objectively a historical anecdote.
Billions are already cursed and tormented. Hmmm ok let me try to help you. You have a lot of time so among the bible read at least job and psalms, then the NT. Additionally read Dante, Schopenhauer, Aristotle, and Jung.
Or just watch youtube videos on them all just for a taste.
You're a smart guy, I bet you'll see the truths of the world very fast, and it will frighten you as men who have been long dead affirm you.

>>22939645
is that a bachelor's in math with a minor in CS?
details matter

>>22939643
Which is why I don’t listen to him.
When you get some hairs on your chest, you will listen to Bach instead

>>22939647
>are you sure you studied math?
I studied math, not history. lol

>>22939648
Double major. I was going to go for another year and get a double degree but this last semester burnt me out badly.

>>22939649
Okay well I like Romanticism. Sue me

>>22939652
Do you own a doghouse?

>>22939625
>Face the mother Sophia, and become her kin.
>And then you will conquer the world. I want to help save you, because you're like me. We're her children, we're brothers and I will hold my hand out for my brother
Respectfully what the fuck are you talking about?

>>22939570 (OP)
That’s too bad for you I guess lmao

>>22939626
Not an argument.

>>22939653
No, but I am a professor of logic.

>>22939644
>Christianity is a universalist religion.
Again with your shitty logic!

Christianity is an absolute.
You are either in or out.
There is not grey area.

ALL religions tell you what you must do to make yourself right with God. ALL of them fail.
Christianity is Jesus Christ, who did everything necessary to reconcile mankind to Himself, IF they will have it.

You never question the bullshit of your own science-fiction religion, then think yourself too intelligent to even consider that you might simply be wrong.

>>22939570 (OP)
Damn, and you're already 21? God you're old. It's over.

>>22939658
I wish I could have the confidence a Christian has in their beliefs sometimes. Again, no arguments, just asserting things about the Christian worldview.

>>22939651
so you just go make 6 figures now and live life on easy mode. that's the implication. if you can't grind leetcode for a few weeks and get through a tech interview after getting a double major degree in math and CS then you should an hero.

>>22939657
So you are employed!
Thread solved

>>22939570 (OP)
And me at 25 find myself in a worse position, at least you are young enough to normify and maybe make it out

>>22939661
I wasn't really happy at college and graduating has made me realize I need to pivot in some way. I imagine that getting a software job will just be more of the same. More bureaucracy, more pajeets, more HR bullshit, more living in crowded shitholes.

>>22939570 (OP)
Upgrade to Wagner and read Nietzsche.

>>22939665
Read Nietzsche or read quotes of his from "FEARLESSMOTIVATION.COM"?

>>22939663
>find myself in a worse position
What's going on?

>>22939660
>no arguments
The arguments are against you.
That is why you revert back to your paper defense.
>>22939657
>No, but I am a professor of logic.

You like the smell of your own shit too much.
Why don't you get your head out of your ass and breathe for once in your adult life?

You will never be the equal of Solomon in deed or thought, and here is how he ends his appraisal of life on earth.
Ecc 12:13-14
>Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man. For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil.

Have you given in to the sodomy yet?

>>22939668
>The arguments are against you.
You haven't made a single argument for Jesus' divinity in this entire thread. Give me a syllogism.

I'm in the spot and I'm 26. If you don't start getting your life together rn. You will regret. So start today. And learn to box.

>>22939669
You haven't made a single argument for your logic.
Give me proof that God does not exist.

The reason you crave cock is because that is your punishment for denying God as Creator.
See Romans, chapter one.

>>22939666
His works if you dare to.

>>22939671
>Give me proof that God does not exist.
Firstly I don't believe that, and secondly the impetus goes on the person trying to prove a statement, not on the skeptic. If I say I'm not convinced of the Collatz conjecture and you ask me to falsify it then YOU have failed in YOUR logic.

>>22939672
I was just joking around lol. I've had a passing interest in philosophy for a while, might be worth it to actually read some.

>>22939664
idk man. we have paths to retirement by 40 laid out for us if we work hard. that's exiting slavery 25 years earlier than most. that's how I cope with reality, anyway. you do you.

>>22939570 (OP)
wait till you are 30

>>22939673
>YOU have failed in YOUR logic.
You have failed to grow up.
You are a child in a man's body.
That is why you will never be happy.

It is no one's fault but your own, with the help of your mother of course.
She will not fix it for you.
You have to stop being an edge lord faggot all by yourself.
Or not.
You still have free will.

>>22939677
Ad hominem. Not an argument. Prove to me that Jesus is God. I already believe in God, some form of afterlife, and objective morality, so you should have an easy path if Jesus is so obvious.

>>22939641
>ciggy butt brain

>>22939675
And throw away my prime years?

>>22939661
Companies hire based on language and stack experience mostly
This was only half true before covid.

Software hiring is going to be dead for about 5-10 years depending on when they realise that AI is actually creating more problems than it solves.

A good portion of grifter ceos that literally have no clue are firing software engineers/developers thinking they're only going to need managers.
AI would be fine with the people actually on the tools, but a good portion of managers generally don't have a clue how to build software and are going to make embarassing mistakes.

Some companies do understand that you still need software engineers, but they're the exception not the rule

>>22939570 (OP)
you weren't even an adult 4 years ago

>>22939671
The burden of proof is always on the one who claims the existence of something. If no evidence is produced the claim remains unjustified and no wise man would believe it.

> Atheism
That's a totally wrong conception of atheism like only an uneducated christian zealot can have.

>>22939680
dude you can take like a month of vacation a year at most places. you're starting to sound like you want everything handed to you, when even before civilization your ancestors had it 100x harder. suck it the fuck up you crybaby

>>22939682
Yeah I know, and I'm in exactly the same place. Granted I went all the way through one year of high school and college since then, but I feel like I'm stagnant. Feels like I haven't grown up.

>>22939684
>dude you can take like a month of vacation a year at most places. you're starting to sound like you want everything handed to you, when even before civilization your ancestors had it 100x harder. suck it the fuck up you crybaby

>>22939680
>>22939684
in fact, go fucking work for 2 years then buy a 100-acre patch of undeveloped forest and live in it like your ancestors before you. you'll come back begging to be a fucking capitalist worker, you whiny sob.

>>22939686
posting poovek isn't an argument

>>22939570 (OP)
>while listening to Tchaikovsky
Well, aren't we fancy. Go cry someone who cares in your parents country club, rich boy.

Tchaikovsky.
Poseurs love to counter-signal him for being too emotional or whatever.
Real music chads know he was the real deal.
For me it's the fourth and fifth symphonies, Eugene Onegin, and some of the lighter music like the serenade for strings.

>>22939688
t.

>>22939667
Basically lost everything, mother became delusional, sister got depression, father's an alcoholic who can't manage his own business and everyone expecting me to come at the rescue each time with no one realising that I may as well finish unemployed at the end of the year since I'm shit at my current Dev job

>>22939692
just bee yourself

>>22939570 (OP)
assuming its not a fake color story to plaster the board with more demoralizing content,
you're young gtfo of here. when the oldfags were young these boards were funny, the internet wasn't nearly as depressing and full of shit and rot, and the memes were just goofy nonsense shit, 4 years ago was 2020ish. you got absolutely nothing good from this website.
there's no reason for you to be here.
if your college degree doesn't get you work, drive a truck, apply for a construction apprenticeship/job to learn a trade, just save your money and don't be a frivolous cunt with your resources and you'll be fine.
lift weights, eat better, don't stick your dick in crazy.
gtfo of here kid, its full of kikes, and even if you're a kike too, kikes are still poisonous to other kikes.

>>22939693
that's the most zoomer tranny-pilled garbage i've ever fucking heard. talk about safe-space faggotry. please an hero

>>22939692
man-up you pathetic pussy bitch
try studying to get better at your job instead of jerking off all day

>>22939694
>the internet wasn't nearly as depressing and full of shit and rot
The part that keeps me online is that real life is just as bad, if not worse. The state of the world just depresses me.
>gtfo out of here
And go where?

>>22939695
>that's the most zoomer tranny-pilled garbage i've ever fucking heard

>>22939690
TRVKE

>>22939693
That's what I decided to do recently

>>22939695
>man-up
Tried but I'm a manlet so that's difficult

>>22939699
How's it working out?

>>22939697
lol if you put that picture next to your OP, it shows that's literally you and you just use it for projection

ironic

>>22939570 (OP)
Welcome to the anti-white jewish matriarchy known as the USA.
Your best bet would be to somehow identify as a black woman or something if you want a job.
Or try to find what businesses in your town are white male dominated and see if they will let you sweep garbage or something low-key to get them used to seeing you around.

>>22939650
>>22939654
This truth is an inward path, I've given enough to help you there.
>>22939673
not for axiomatic truths or truths that are intuitionally constructed. I guess you probably haven't read much math philosophy...
Well it's ok, my inner transcendence took time too. I think it might ease you towards sophia if you start with a familiar realm, look at interesting problems and mathematical philosophy. Be careful of the poison physicists and engineers spew.
I'll give you a quote from a dream I had once:
>There I stood upon that black shore, after having floated for so long in the black sea of the black night, guided only the moon who I had fallen in love with, she danced with me in the reflections of the undulating waves as I gasp for breath and shifted my arms and legs. I pushed the sand with my feet, and it clung to me I could see but still barely in these black shores, I felt just as long. I came upon what I thought were men, but where just the husks. He told me him name and I knew who he had been, and others I could recognize just barely. All withered in mind body and soul. Their fingers drew raw towards the bone as they dragged in the sand, some shapes, some pointed three to four, some without. I knew what they were doing, they were doing something impossible. Their own manic futility was proof enough, and yet they persisted here. Christ did not save these men, and neither did Euler.
>The tide rise and washed it all away in deluge so I left the crowd of fools seeking higher ground. There I meet the moon who turned around and guarding her, making her obscure, was a lion's face who scared me, as so he demanded, I obliged easily without thought.
This is where I awoke having known I meet God, a frightening force. THE impetus.

>>22939570 (OP)
wow you're such a cultured intellectual listening to Tchaikovsky, I'm glad you included that detail so we know what an intelligent man you are

>>22939634
If its a verdict you’re after as with a court of law and there is with that an expectation that some skilled litigators is supposed to come along and wrap the matter up once and for all, I think you’re going to be disappointed. You’re not some judge weighing evidence and evaluating arguments. I honestly think that’s one of the defects of Christianity. People feel like they’re being sold something. they’re understandably suspicious of being scammed. they moreover condemn all of Christianity due to some transient experience or the other. such an approach does have the effect of cheapening its reputation. I moreover think that no matter what type or volume of evidence was presented, you’d find some way of picking it apart. Like you’re inspecting a used car and are dubious of its history. You want an CARFAX for Jesus, do you? And then, most of all with people like you, there is the conceit in believing you’re too smart to be taken in by the sky daddy sham like all those credulous rubes.
Jesus anticipates all this. He tells you straight out that you’re going to need to bring faith and trust to the arrangement. You start there and it’s a lesson He never stops teaching. Jesus will forever go on teaching you faith and perseverance. There’s no way to ‘prove’ anything…and that would moreover defeat the whole purpose. You simply do not get what it is on an essential level, Mr Smartypants. You must first be convicted in your heart as to the truth of the message. The message is that mankind was born into the bondage of sin. We are literally slaves to sin through the corruption of the flesh. Absent the intervention of The Holy Spirit and the propitiation of sin through the Blood of Christ, and only through which, are you both free from the bondage of sin but you are excused from the penalty for it, which is eternal death.
>oh grave, where is thy victory?
>oh death, where is thy sting?
And that’s to say nothing of The Kingdom to come

>>22939696
anywhere you want. go apply and get turned down till a door opens somewhere to something better than whatever the fuck this is.

>>22939702
unable to detect a joke award

>>22939704
>not for axiomatic truths or truths that are intuitionally constructed
"Jesus is God" is an axiom?

>>22939705
It was more to show how sad I am, but that too or something

>>22939708
unable to get a job with one of the most in-demand degrees award

>>22939701
I slept well and didn't struggle to get out of bed for work

>>22939706
So what of people that this just doesn't resonate with? You're telling me that you can't present a syllogism to me showing that Jesus is God, but do you not realize that some people can only be convinced by this? Do you not understand how much this seems like telling people to just gaslight themselves until they're Christian?

>>22939711
>most in-demand degrees
clueless oldtroon award

>>22939712
Good on ya anon

>>22939706
holy fuck dude. he just stated a fact and you sperg out like a fucking pastor-school graduate without a church to preach to. it could be summarized as:
>you aren't brainwashed if you choose the programming you exercise blind-faith with
the ultimate cope

>>22939714
cant even fucking google award
no wonder you can't get a job

>>22939717
>Jewgle AI

>>22939580
Math and CS teach you how to think.

>Nerds and geeks are genetic dead-ends.
Nerds may seem like losers during their formative years, as they often need more time alone for contemplation. However, being a nerd is an important phase for intellectual late bloomers. Many important figures in history have experienced their own nerdy phase. I feel bad for the normies.

i dont care

>>22939718
I can have Grok cite the job growth by the BLS instead of jewgle if that makes you less retarded

stats are stats. you'd think a math major would realize that.

yea you're pretty hopeless. it's clear you're just making up any excuse you can to be a lazy trannigger. probably end up leeching off SSI your whole life.

>>22939581
expand your taste anon
try some wagner or rachmaninoff

>>22939721
The market has been flooded dude, my school is now like 60% Indian. Statistics can only get you so far, at a certain point you just have to experience it to know.

>>22939722
Beethoven is good though

>>22939570 (OP)
>He didin't start going to the gym in College
>He didin't start taking drawing classes full of beatiful women in College
>He didin't use the confidence gained in the gym to ask girls out and get a girlfriend
>He didin't study abroad for a semester
>He didin't party in college

Oh shit nigger, what are you doing? What did you think College was for?

>>22939725
>full of beatiful women
You've already failed, the girls at my university are ugly.

>>22939723
your school?
I thought you graduated?
you just make friends with a poojeet and have them refer you and you get in. they even have websites to get referrals and pay them 5k after you're hired with at least 100k salary. you graduated. nobody is going to hold your hand anymore. put on your big boy pants and join the dog-eat-dog world or become a pathetic SSI leech nigger. the choice is yours.

>>22939709
Not an axiom to say Jesus is God, that's instead heresy.
It denies his humanity because Yahweh is subhuman.
Here's a hard question, and I want you to recognize the symbolic value.
Is there a nature to everything? If no then what? If we suppose something had no nature, it's nature would be to have no nature. The consequences of this is alarming and yet exciting. I mean such a simple question has exposed mathematical issues like of self referential sets. You must know of the famous construction of the set which contains all sets, yes?
Ok now if yes, then what is the nature of everything. How can you say yes without totality? Now this is powerful my friend.
This discomfort should be natural though, because we are the friends of numbers.
which reminds me read the Tao Te Ching, you can do it in a day.

>>22939580
Based normie retard. Now, it's time to go back.

>>22939727
>make friends with a poojeet

>>22939726
Ok fine, ugly women then. You literally failed at adult kindergarden.
You must be non-white, no white straight man could be this stupid

>>22939730
i never said it had to be a genuine friendship you nit-picking dweeb. you're the one asking for advice and I'm giving advice that works. eat shit faggot.

>>22939731
>You literally failed at adult kindergarden
Failed how? I had to take difficult schedules to finish my requirements and I had to commute to save money. I've made friends and all but you probably just cannot understand how bad colleges in the U.S. are.

>>22939732
At no point ITT did I ask for advice. Can you please just fuck off dude?

>>22939734
well you need it if you have a BS in Math and CS and you're still an unemployed retard. that's a low bar that you can't even meet. I guess you are a safe-space tranny, so I don't really care if you succeed. have fun being a fucking loser your whole life and blaming it on society. lol

>>22939733
no excuse, white man can survive and thrive and succeseed on fucking abandoned islands in the middle of the ocean.

You are not white, kill yourself.

>>22939735
Fuck you too nigger

>>22939734
>>22939735
hell, i know people who got straight Cs in college with CS jobs. you seriously are a dumb loser nigger. glad your faggot tranny ass is leaving the gene pool.

>>22939736
>You are not white
Says the Finn

>>22939738
>know people who got straight Cs in college with CS jobs
So do I, they're all soulless golems.

>>22939737
>unemployed
>broke
>no social life
>single
>brooding alone living with mommy and daddy
epitome of neckbeard loser. the political implications of this are the kikes got you good.

>>22939583
Why not just join a commercial vessel? Can make decent pay doing that.

>>22939592
Work is absolutely soul crushing.

>>22939740
>everyone with a job is a soulless golem. I deserve to have everything handed to me because.. well.. JUST BECAUSE OKAY?!?!
>doesn't contribute shit all to anything except the jew's bank accounts via his mom and dad.
yea dude, you're so much better than that 7/11 indianigger cashier and that 16 year old mcdonalds worker

i'm done. punching down so low is too easy and gets boring.

>>22939593
>>22939630
>>22939646
If any of you three faggots drop a burner email I’ll commission you to make an e-book cover for me. Simple graphic work. Nothing crazy. I have the exact image in my mind but I have zero skill doing that. I’ll even give you credit when I publish it eventually. I dislike AI “art” immensely, as it’s all trash lacking any kind of artistic soul.

>>22939570 (OP)
Same but I'm 28, shit is fucked. When I was 18 thought I'd be married with a kid and mortgage by now.

>>22939746
you fucked yourself.
I was raised on food-stamps and am now your age and just bought a house in cash.
make better choices

>>22939743
Depends on the work obviously

>>22939570 (OP)
Play minecraft and pretend your life is fine

>>22939747
Depends where you live and your opportunities

If you were able to live with your parents you ultimately save a lot more money than someone that can't

If you're buying houses with cash you're in the top 5-1% of people your age.
Which is explainable by either living at home or buying in some shithole

>>22939750
Diversity tax has really fucked the housing market.

>>22939570 (OP)
I talk to AI all day about cool fun ideas. it's nice to have a reliable partner to bounce new ideas and plans with.

>>22939752
I can't imagine this isn't depressing

>>22939752
Have you tried any of the ideas?

>>22939750
it's explainable by graduating with a CS degree with 20k in debt, grinding leetcode, moving across the country to a job with 170k total comp and living in the cheapest possible apartment in the area while you save up and get promoted to 250k total comp after 2 years, then spending 2 more years in that same shitty apartment saving your money.

I used student loan money for my $500/mo apartment while i went to college too.

I bought a $250k house in a lower cost of living city and I'm turning in my 2-weeks to move there and get a remote SDE job. I'll take a pay cut, but my current job is so stressful it's worth the peace of mind and more personal time, plus I won't have to pay 2k in rent per month anymore. just ~$500/mo for ALL monthly expenses. My experience of 4 years in FAANG while getting promoted will be plenty to land a 6 figure remote or office job after moving. I hate being a slave and I plan to retire early.

just because you can't do it in your country doesn't mean it's not possible in mine.

>>22939642
why dont you get back with her? beats being single and her keeping everything. just suck it up dude and unlearn all the unattractive behaviors.

https://youtu.be/W_cnbV_OSi4

>>22939752
i use chagGPT and she only tells me the same stuff. it already bores me.

>>22939757
yup only low iq people can have entertaining conversations with AI. I still have to seek entertaining conversations with high IQ women....its all relatively speaking

>>22939755
Yeah so it's opportunities
You can do all the things you have done and not land a job

I would say your approach was more likely to succeed 2-3 years ago but would be very difficult in the current market
Most people don't earn 170k even in software. That's rare for someone starting out.

Long story short your method is likely not going to work for 95% of people

I remember browsing this same shitty image board when I was 21, seems like yesterday, time flies. Generally just avoid the traps of debt and vice and itll work out. A job is a great way to make money and meet people, but dont be afraid to hop around, getting stuck in a nightmare job will fuck up your life. Start fishing. Cherish family when possible. It all works out in the end with the right attitude, trust

>>22939583
Lol this is the gayest psy op ever, and it makes me realize how absolutely and thoroughly fucked the Navy is that they’ve decided to psy war beta 18 year old chancels into joining.
The navy thread yesterday was so fucking inorganic that there was likely a faggy team briefing led by a non-binary dyke this morning, and they settled on this type of “implication” posts being the best course of action to subtle-ly recruit neets for the grinder.
Do you all even get how much better I am than you? I make a half assed joke about “fresh neets to the grinder” and completely btfo your entire staff’s purpose with a single meme. I just drove your recruitment negative. Some chink or rusnig will read that line and chuckle, and make a starship troopers meme with the line. Good luck countering it.
I was actually pretty close to joining to triage and save white kids before you faggots decided to double down on Ukraine on top of Iran and Taiwan. You’re fucked now, and there is nothing I can do to save you. The state will collapse because of your ineptitude and insistence on being tranny loving niggers. Too little, too late, too much gangrene, your limb is getting sawed off. I look forward to the coffins of you faggots coming out of planes draped in pride flags.
Just let this thread slide into oblivion like I just slid into your loose, pozzed assholes

>>22939752
Sheep
>>22939760
Hurrr durrrr fishing in da naaaaaavyyyy

>>22939753
get a job mate you will feel better.

The more you wait the worse it will get.

Even if the pay is not the best you will start somewhere and can build up experience and
connections that will lead to a better paying job.

U.S Banks Give Interest-Free Loans if You're Jewish
https://files.catbox.moe/zmc4zf.mp4

>>22939710
All it demonstrated was that you are arrogant and have a high opinion of yourself, which is probably why you're such a miserable wretch

It's thirty minutes to three and I'm listening to the Heart Sutra. Life goes on.

>>22939762
I hear the gayvy has a quick ship bonus and you can work your way up to swabbing the poop deck after a few years of anal dilation.
I’d take the money up front and financing a dodge charger @24% apr because you won’t live long enough to get the full amount, and the gayvy won’t pay it to your family
>>22939763
Your family will get USAA low interest* loans from kikes after your ship is scuttled

>>22939761
on point
you're right, that's exactly what this thread is doing
some kind of inception bullshit.
its too off. 21 with a fucking bachelors and a defeatist attitude, how the fuck would you even follow through on a 4 year commitment with that attitude?
back to the think tanks with this one trannies this ones fully cooked and tastes like shit.

and wtf is up with the Tchaikovsky shit?
is that an attempt to seem relatable to the board?
god I wonder what kind of random shit they have in their notes on autism.

some of its probably pretty funny as fuck

>>22939759
You can do whatever you want if you spend your youth humbly, even if you start with nothing.
I ate like a hermit and shared my dorm with 3 other uni students. I bought nothing except for necessities and investments for 7 years of my life, I had to drive a rustbucket and switch when something breaks, I bribed technicians to pass the necessary safety tests.

I finished uni and I have a job that's over the national average and I'll be buying land and beginning house construction for cash next year.

Most people are impulsive retards that like to treat themselves to expensive toys they forget about quickly, much like children. This is probably the no1. thing that makes people stuck as poor.

>>22939768
I bet their manual is filled with “Who is this 4chan?” level analysis.
The military in general faces a unique problem — they need warm bodies competent enough to press buttons and blindly follow orders, but they can’t actually risk having anybody capable of critical thinking, or anybody that actually cares about the country, because those people do things besides saying “yes, ma’am!” when Admiral Rachel Levine mandates estrogen and MRNA therapy to combat antisemitism.
Because the military leadership is stuck in an echo chamber and can’t state the obvious we’re caught in a death spiral where traitors and foreigners are being enfranchised as the new model “Americans” as long as they prove themselves by killing whites.
It would be more funny to me if this wasn’t the country my ancestors built and bled for.
>>22939769
Sorry, polka nigger. You need to get ready to go to the front to die for greater Israel and the noble goal of white depopulation in a war which’s only objective is you and your demographic equivalent across the border dying and being replaced by assorted street shitters

>>22939769
Eastern European cost living vs wages ratio is far far better than anything here.
Your housing prices are also much lower.

Let's say your median mid level software engineer is 130k per year
and senior is 160k

Living in a 1 bed room apartment in Sydney is about $3000 AUD per month and 2500 per month in Melbourne
Perth or Adelaide has no software engineer work. Brisbane has some but now is the same price as Melbourne.

Your median apartment price in Melbourne is 540k and Sydney 817k

On a 130k year wage with 2500 per month in rent costs plus high taxes and high living costs. Your repayments on a loan for a 550k apartment is 3200aud per month. So negatively geared.

It's actually impossible even on far above average salaries to afford property unless you want to commute 2hours.
There's virtually no remote work in Australia anymore, as they are requiring minimum days in office.


It's completely unrealistic to do what you did in Poland here

>>22939570 (OP)
You must convert to Islam and join the Ummah of the Faithful. Only by doing so may you find the true virtuous path at last, and you will find guidance at the hands of Mohammed (PBUH)

>>22939771
You could just, you know, stop being a bitch and organize to remove the Chinese and poop people that are artificially bloating prices beyond what Bruce can afford from 40 hours at the Foster’s cannery
>>22939772
Islam is strong because it was a religion developed out of attrition warfare, and it very plainly states that violence is the default method of solving real world problems.
Christianity was only strong whenever everybody was illiterate and could be convinced to do whatever the local divine king wanted with the use of a snappy psalm and reference to John.
Islam in the modern age in (((liberal))) places that aren’t ridiculously regressive is just as weak as any of the other religions. If you actually want Islam to work, you have to stone whores for showing ankles. If you’re not prepared to do that then adopting a sand nigger religion is absolutely useless, and only functions as a vector of infection for brownies to shit up nice places.

>>22939773
That would fix the problem but there's not much we can do about it as both parties support poo people

>>22939773
>Islam is strong because it was a religion developed out of attrition warfare, and it very plainly states that violence is the default method of solving real world problems.
>Christianity was only strong whenever everybody was illiterate and could be convinced to do whatever the local divine king wanted with the use of a snappy psalm and reference to John.
>Islam in the modern age in (((liberal))) places that aren’t ridiculously regressive is just as weak as any of the other religions. If you actually want Islam to work, you have to stone whores for showing ankles. If you’re not prepared to do that then adopting a sand nigger religion is absolutely useless, and only functions as a vector of infection for brownies to shit up nice places.
what do you think is going to happen when us Muslims in Germany and other western countries are no longer 30% of the population but the majority?
all I'm saying is, OP, make the right choice and join the side that is destined to win, inshallah.

>>22939580
I hope all your tech shit breaks soon, you fucking dork, probably can't do shit. Also I'm definitely physically stronger than your. Fucking loser

>>22939774
I get it, everybody has the exact same problems, I’m just projecting at you a bit.
It doesn’t matter if you’re Russian, American, Chinese, Korean, Polish, Ukrainian, German, or a fucking moon man. Every single one of the governments is doing the exact same globalist thing to its citizenry. Every. Single. One. Besides maybe Israel, but that’s because they’re coping with somehow being both god’s chosen people and being brown retards at the same time— they’re a failed state that only exists because of handouts from the US, and as soon as the US goes broke, they’ll shit the bed. Any cope about China supporting kikes after the US falls is retarded— why would China ever ally with kikes when kikes produce nothing of value, and all of the trade partners the Chinese seek to exploit are fuzzie wuzzies that prefer halal to kosher?
>>22939775
30% poo people is not a brag, it’s a symptom of societal decay. Once Germany or Sweden or any of these nations hits the critical level where inbred shitskins outstrip GDP and no globohomo kikes are there to print money, the nations will devolve and the pop people will be purged. You think things are going to be static in a transition lmao. For the same reason that nobody wants to buy an Aston Martin inspected by Mohammed Mohammed, nobody will want to buy some piece of shit product made by piece of shit people. The societies will collapse under the shear weight of brown incompetence. At best you’ll end up as Russia, except without the gas to sell. The point, like I said, is that Islam is only strong when it’s regressive, but regressive mindsets make it so Islamic nations really can’t produce anything of value besides foot soldier drone fodder

>>22939570 (OP)
>Tchaikovsky
Listen to Brahms' 4th, and his chamber music too. There is no greater joy in life than classical music.

>>22939570 (OP)
>4
Another white loser for my collection.

>>22939583
>a monk
a warrior monk

A mix between the dhalai lama and that pearl harbor nigga

>>22939770
>It would be more funny to me if this wasn’t the country my ancestors built and bled for.
Rome was still Rome when it collapsed. The people didn't go anywhere. They didn't even change the name of the city.
Its still Rome. The places Rome controlled, were not Roman people, they fucked off and built their own shit with their own people, which is what they were doing before the Roman Empire collapsed.
In the big picture it probably was world changing for a few people, but the Goths were still the Goths, the Greeks were still the Greeks, Sicilians were still Sicilians, etc etc.
Its in the pledge of allegiance to the nation "United we stand. Divided we fall."
In the context of today, we're not unifiable, and unity for unity's sake is a terrible message when your house is divided and invaded by foreign adversaries who you cannot form polity with and your people are unable to expel them because there is no polity of 'your people' to expel them either.
So your empire breaks into compartments that can form cohesive and unifiable polities again and address the contaminants in their own compartments. You are no longer "Romans", but you never were really, only the Romans were Romans, you were the absorbed Goths who served in frontier legions.
Or fast forward, the Germanics of the Midwest (or whatever/wherever you are from).
A unifiable and cohesive polity again.

sic transit gloria mundi

>>22939570 (OP)
>while listening to Tchaikovsky
Found your mistake. Should've been listening to Strauss and Grieg.

>>22939570 (OP)
Same except almost 28. No amount of education will pull you into society. If you come from shitty family with no connections, nobody will hire you based on your personality because you are not a woman. Politically, I've swinged authoritarian left because I desire neetbux (they don't exist here yet) and legalized marijuana.

>>22939782
Strauss bores me. Grieg's concerto is fun. For me it's Mahler and Bruckner
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUtmfVeUdmI

>>22939597
I've been seriously considering this. I like getting out, moving around, being to myself. I talked to a guy whose company had implemented a camera on their drivers though, not sure I could deal with that. I'm going to be farting, picking my nose, smoking and saying nigger quite a bit.

>>22939781
I stopped reading after the first lines, it’s brown cope. Rome got gradually replaced with shitskins they imported into the empire, which was why the empire fell. The only ones remotely related to the Romans are northern Italians. After the fall you just had a bunch of mutts larping as romans.
I’m Audi, stop being so brown and contemplate why you look nothing like Julius Caesar, or Augustus, or any of the people you “muh ancestor” about

ClassicalGODS win again

>>22939719
Math and CS teach you everyone is really just aligned AI golems and we live in the demiurges dream

>>22939770
Nice buzzword salad, are you okay or did you have a stroke you npc faggot?

>>22939786
If you weren't a knee jerking woman you could read the latter half of his post, where he admits that it was multiculturalism that caused the collapse which essentially agrees with what you are saying.

>>22939786
Correct, except I'm not brown.
Northern Italians are the Romans.
The people still exist, that was my point.
If Washington DC collapsed, it wouldn't change much for Americans. The lights need to stay on, law and order needs to keep clocking in.
It would change a lot for the political establishment because things would regionalize. Being a "Roman" in Rome was a paperwork citizenship at the end of the empire, there were jews with Roman citizenship, it doesn't really mean shit, they had systems of adoption and legal paperwork (so of course jews manufactured documents and paid bribes to steal inheritances and secure social status.)
Its the same thing happening in the US.

>>22939580
how about you do whatever the fuck you want, instead?
fucking faggot

>>22939700
holy fucking KEK! i kek'd so hard, thanks anon

>>22939588
check Truth is Christ on YouTube
he shows irrefutable evidence

>>22939785

You get used to it after awhile.
They don't have them to spy on you every second, there basically just there to document what happened in case you're in an accident.
Sort of like the 'black box' in an airliner.

Pretty much every mid-size to large trucking company has a camera in the cab now. The insurance companies demand it for legal/liability reasons.

>>22939600
no, society is doing just fine outside. the problem is theres a bunch of losers staying at home, causing a bunch of problems with society. we keep trying to talk to them, get them to go outside, touch grass, but, they never seem to actually become self aware that they, themselves, are the problem. sometimes they post here, almost getting it. but...no. they. they, whoever they are. just never makes it over the hump of realization.

>>22939570 (OP)
Find a woman.

>be me, working dead end middle tier job barely making ends meet
>meet girl in the same situation
>we decide to live together
>income suddenly doubled expenses basically the same
>look forward to each day from now knowing she's at the end of it
>2 years later
>have downpayment for a house
There's a reason they want you alone and misogynistic. The only way to escape this gay system is to marry.

>>22939570 (OP)
>Tchaikovsky
Everybody loves Tchaikovsky's music.

>>22939570 (OP)
get a job
glad on you though your parents so let you stay, don't have to worry about rent

>>22939783
>neetbux
based
>legalised marijuana
weed is a jewish psyop
shrooms are where its at

>>22939570 (OP)
>I was unemployed at 17, waaah waaah baby bitch waah
the fuck is wrong with you retard? you have so much more living to do it's insane, get your dumbass out and do shit, any shit, god damn baby whiny bitchboy

>>22939570 (OP)
>61 pbtid
>blog post
>thread up for 8 hours
dead board

>>22939570 (OP)
10 years from now you're gonna look at these times nostalgically and you're gonna wish you could go back

>>22939570 (OP)
lol 21
try 58

>>22939596
>the lack of social life is really crushing
lol you have not ascended yet

>>22939606
>the third just plain schizo or something, talked about demons telling him to hurt people and wrote me a fucking love letter
now that's an interesting guy
not you anon you sound boring and norm

>>22939594
>chud.
the one successful lefty meme
no idea who came up with it though, probably ourselves

>>22939796

I've been to various American cities and your society is most definitely not doing fine outside by any conceivable metric.

>>22939573
He was a literal reptilian, I have done LSD and seen the truth.

>>22939571
He will he just wanted to pretend he's the deep depressed sort for 15 minutes but he's a total normie.

>>22939807
turn out the left can meme, just not as they want.

>>22939599
jewish trap

>>22939599
>submit to me and you will be saved, refuse and you will burn for eternity
that's BAAL
human sacrifice deity

>>22939811

they didn't make up chud thats primarily a West Israeli insult that was picked up by the west

>>22939570 (OP)
fucking retard /pol/ack
21 is barely getting started in life.

>>22939804
>58
how much time did you waste playing video games to get started at 58.
You literally have 20 years of life left.

>>22939866
The video games would have been terrible at the time he was a young man too. How many times can you play Barnstormers before you shoot yourself with your lightgun performatively?

>>22939808
it really isnt.
The us may not be entirely collapsing but it isnt in a good spot currently.

>>22939799
that's the advice i give to people nowadays.
Stay with your parents and save money.
I moved out at 24 and became very reliant on credit cards for food, etc.
Moving out at 24 was the biggest mistake i ever made.

Test

>>22939585
Jesus Chris is a dead sack of shit and objectively speaking you are a dumb nigger for believing anyone has ever come back to life