Thread 23037539

This is why science is flawed. God will never allow humans to know everything. The only valid science is that which exalts God.

It's the end of the cult of science. Atheists are seething right now.

wow it's clickbait but with nothing to click
we must be living in the future

Either
>There's something fundamentally wrong with the telescope itself
Or
>Scientists get to create new theories to test with the new information provided, rinse & repeat until the next discovery that makes you question pre-existing notions

>>23037539 (OP)
Physics is just schizophrenics making shit up just like religion.

maybe they will find the Current Thing out there.

good luck scientist bros.

>>23037539 (OP)
>unknown physics
just translate that to "MORE FUNDS"

>needs a $20B Space Telescope project to find out Jewish physics is fake and gay and based on lies.
Grim

>>23037540
Lol.

>>23037539 (OP)
Isotropy of the Universe is just a convenient devicefor modern cosmology. In reality it is highly anisotropic full of areas with different physical laws.

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>>23037545
None of you are white

>>23037539 (OP)
>can't explain it
>it's god
ah yes, the classic christcuck cliché. god doesn't exist because there's no way he'd allow the affront to humanity and UN playground extraordinaire that is monkeyzil

>>23037541
I mean the newer telescopes are introducing pretty interesting possibilities that 'settled science' was actually deeply flawed bullshit.
Science has had serious problems since the beginning of the 1900s with deciding that X or Y is settled truth, and then building giant towers of garbage on top of what turns out to be flawed science.
You could see that behavior in real time with the covid bullshit, once the cathedral had dictated that X was true, there was no meaningful dissent, and every 'paper' after that was twisted into pretzels to affirm that X was double plus true.
Or global warming, and how there is zero investigation into the negative, only the affirmation of muh anthropogenic global warming.

>>23037548
correct.

>>23037539 (OP)
Earth is flat with a dome.
God exists.

Aliens don't exist.
Space isn't real.
Never went to the moon.
Nukes don't exist.
Evolution is a lie.
Germ Theory is a lie.

The world is ruled by secret societies that worship Satan. Jews/Jesuits/Freemasons/Illuminati are Gnostics and Kabbalists. Masters at deception. One satanic philosophy is inverting reality.

They make you think you live on a spinning ball.
They make you think you're just an animal.
They make you think there's a deadly virus out there.

Luciferyans are behind liberalism, feminism, socialism, marxism, communism, multiculturalism, egalitarianism, social decay and degradation.

They despise, and want to destroy:
- Religion, specifically Christianity
- Family
- Nation
- Property

Hence these civilizational concepts are under relentless assault to make way for their satanic New World Order led by the Antichrist after a fake alien invasion known as project Blue Beam.

ALL of these conspiracies hinges on the original, mother of all psyops and hoaxes: Earth being a ball floating in nothing, revolving around the sun (remember, the satanic cabal are pagan sun worshippers..)

/pol/niggers trying to talk about natural sciences is so funny, you faggots couldn't even solve a second degree polynomial

>>23037539 (OP)
God isn't real.

All we have here is new physics to study.

>>23037552
>Germ Theory is a lie.
Germans do exist. I have met (unfortunately) many of them

>Unknown physics
HE IS CALLED GOD

>>23037549
>Exists
>refuses to accept he exists and must reduce himself down to an inanimate object because thinking about God makes him feel tiny.

>>23037539 (OP)
>new book explaining why holy trinity actually makes sense
Psychojewish shit nevrr changes

>>23037540
https://www.popularmechanics.com/space/deep-space/a63161247/hubble-tension-unknown-physics/

>>23037553
I have no clue what that is yet I know the midwits who took boosters because of a flu do not create any real science but rather regurgitate their masters' bullshit theories

>>23037539 (OP)
Depending on where we look, the universe expands at different rates. Now, scientists using the James Webb and Hubble space telescopes have confirmed that the observation is not due to a measurement error.

Astronomers used the James Webb and Hubble space telescopes to confirm one of the most troubling enigmas in all of physics: that the universe appears to be expanding at surprisingly different speeds depending on where we look.

This problem, known as the Hubble Tension, has the potential to alter or even completely upend cosmology. In 2019, measurements from the Hubble Space Telescope confirmed that the enigma was real; in 2023, even more precise measurements from the James Webb Space Telescope (JWST) solidified the discrepancy.

Now, a triple check conducted by both telescopes, working together, seems to have definitively ruled out the possibility of any measurement error. The study, published on February 6 in the Astrophysical Journal Letters, suggests that there may be something seriously wrong with our understanding of the universe.

"With measurement errors ruled out, what remains is the real and exciting possibility that we have misunderstood the universe," said the study's lead author, Adam Riess, a professor of physics and astronomy at Johns Hopkins University, in a statement.

>>23037554
>God isn't real.
You sure about that chief?

I cannot wrap my head around the waxing and waning gibbous phases of the lunar cycle. If the earth and moon are spherical bodies, should not the visible part of the moon always appear as a crescent? Like, how does the earth cast a crescent shadow unless it's warping or undulating?

>>23037539 (OP)
>OP is a christcuck faggot with no links
many such cases, but that science is pozzle is obvious, it was forms from christcuckery dogmas, also all space believes are made-up by kikes and christkikes.
No, I'm not saying space is fake and gay, I'm saying our knowledge about space is fake and gay brought to you by your local church or synagogue.
If anything is the christkikes on suicide watch as that the eternity of the universe is proven once again.
I got reject from Nature the other day exactly because I had a theory that disproven their gay model of expansion, big bang, dark energy, etc. they even have a excuse to why you don't see the distant images that should be expanding do to space being expanding.
Meaning they do anything and everything to make their gay-theory base on christkikery a reality.

>>23037561
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>>23037539 (OP)
physics at a highest scale likely works just as counterintuitively as the quantum does, but merely in a different way.

>>23037562
I am a monkey and have a question: what's up with theodicy? Have you resolved it finally?

“For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:” (1 Corinthians 15:3-4)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VRT2FFXntc
Jesus Christ is God who came to earth from heaven in the flesh. He died as a sinless sacrifice for the sins of the whole world to save you from eternal hell. He was buried, then resurrected and is now in heaven, the word of God gave you the faith you need to accept this gift "So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God." (Romans 10:17), so just trust in what Jesus did to save you, the blood atonement of Jesus Christ is sufficient to cleanse you from all sin eternally. "And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand." (John 10:28 “Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.” (Rom 5:9) It's 100% God saving you, and it's not your own effort at all, but you have a choice. Don't put faith in your own works for salvation, (not sinning, going to church, praying, loving God etc. Your works can't make you sinless, only by trusting in what Jesus did, you become His purchased possession forever, no matter who you are or what kind of sin you're involved in.) you're just receiving a free gift. That's how powerful the blood of Jesus Christ is. Do you want to be saved or not? It's your choice.

“For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.” (Ephesians 2:8-9)

“Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.” (Rom 5:9)

“And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.” (Ephesians 4:30)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbPchtYsXNo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Myw4_hd6FnM

>>23037567
>saying nothing with clever words in an attempt to appear clever
Nicely put

>>23037562
is this the out of context bible verse that he's talking about?

>>23037570
ive seen you here before. i recognize your faggy attitude, and your typically diminutive non-additions to every thread you sully.
my statement is very clear, and easy to understand. i dont see any reason to elaborate on how physics might behave differently at the largest scale, as all of that elaboration would be conjecture.

They say mass falling into a black hole turns significantly into energy, but where does the mass go? How does the mass that exists due to gravitational potential energy not go infinite as the universe is expanding?

Maybe the mass turns partially into energy and partially into dark matter. In other words, mass is conserved but in a form of noncompact mass on an incomprehensibly large scale, occupying energy levels like some other matter, held apart by degeneracy pressure.

>>23037539 (OP)
The big bang theory is fabricated by a catholic priest (not this one, though this one actively played along) and force fed to the populace by the kikes (whose net contribution to science is negative (they're sometimes not bad in cinema and music, but science is a little bit above their capabilities, so they have nothing better to do than to try and destroy it))
You're welcome. I've been speaking out about it for decades. Good thing the humanity started to catch up. It's a little sad that few of them saw the logical inconsistencies within it, but I'm still impressed that they managed to collect actual data and had balls to admit that their models were wrong (you beLIEvers would never dare)

>>23037561
>hubble tension
tf? that's crazy. Could throw a wrench in the big bang theory if this discrepancy has always existed.
Perhaps the discrepancy is due to an uneven distribution of dark energy. I wonder if CMBR is also affected.
>>23037550
Doesn't this get mitigated by having the upper levels of the towers of garbage make predictions that can be tested? Do people not do such experiments?

>>23037539 (OP)
>some jew got the math wrong 90 years ago
>now (((cosmolgy))) is all fucked up
lel

>>23037559
even this article seems to take for granted this universe expanding thing. which is total nonsense

>>23037551
>Snowy Granius is a hostile Imperial battlemage who can be found on the ancient Dwemer bridge crossing the Foyada Mamaea northeast of the Moonmoth Legion Fort.

>>23037559
>Yup, our infinite universe is expanding. Trippy.
Why are journos so retarded bros

>>23037539 (OP)
Yes 2 more….weeks, 2 more weeks guys.

>>23037578
deal with it.

big bang theory, dark energy is all fake and gay, the hubble tension is not what your gay Nature cucks think it's.
Fucking tranny.
>where is your proof
well, where is the non-pozzle publisher that would publish something denying the core of their gay science? That doesn't exist, if there was such a place it would probably be marginalized by le cleric of science either way.

>>23037539 (OP)
Space exploration and the magic ball is secret society pseudoscience.

Schooling Globers - Episode 34 (The Core of the Globe Belief)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTIFsHH5i6U

The Earth is NOT Flat After All
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2YMZMOjz-c

Relatively Speaking
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIyGmw2iM1I

Middle Ground
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_7XkneVE7Y&list=PLoeKBeKeoPx5quWw74GYIJjVQY4hAxbkf

>>23037565
Cannot you see, by the very luminosity you pointed out, that there are clouds between that stone and the Sun?
Clouds are quite capable of screening the Moon completely. With the Sun not so much.

>>23037582
It's so entertaining seeing them try and defend the globe, while yet simultaneously not even knowing how many wobbles there are.
Like trying to prove a bike exists, but they are too dumbed down to even know it has 2 tires.

>>23037539 (OP)
OK false identity shitslime, do you not get physics at all?

What you're lazily, psychotically mocking is true.

Look up why there is no grand unified theory of physics.

What is dark matter?

Why can't humans solve the Three Body Problem?

Fuck I am getting tired of fool clown shill monkeys like you.

>>23037539 (OP)
>science proves science wrong
That's how it works, retard. That's why everything is a theory, no matter how well-supported it is.

>>23037574
nooo you need to accept that 1 atom of hydrogen is created per cubic kilometer per 100 years, something which is impossible to verify

>>23037539 (OP)
>science is flawed
Science was always flawed by now-time instruments of doing science. If science is wrong then we just redo experiments and all, until we got new answers.
If religions is wrong then you just die, just like with cancer and prayers to remove it.
Fucking retarded pederast.

>>23037557
>exists
>mumbo jumbo goy babble
>there must be a god
ay lmao

>>23037585
>With the Sun not so much.
Got carried away and told a lie. Clouds can block the Sun alright. It shines through and around them better, but nevertheless.

>>23037586
Stfu retard, didn't ask. Bing Bang Theory was made by the same tards that believe the Earth is flat.
Fucking Kys.
>>23037582
This post was mean for this bong faggot >>23037575

>>23037561
>Depending on where we look, the universe expands at different rates. Now, scientists using the James Webb and Hubble space telescopes have confirmed that the observation is not due to a measurement error.
>Astronomers used the James Webb and Hubble space telescopes to confirm one of the most troubling enigmas in all of physics: that the universe appears to be expanding at surprisingly different speeds depending on where we look.
this clearly disproves the big bang doesnt it

>>23037590
a cool short story could be about a world where god did exist people can send back a few words after death
and then you get people trying construct the 'correct' religion - trying to guess what the god's whims are

>>23037552
You're pretty smart. You're clearly well schooled in sith manipulation tactics.

I have a question for you.

Do you think you can take My Father, the omnipresent, omniscient, omnipotent, immutable and eternal GOD?

You should give away all your ill-gotten wealth and beg God for death. He'd mitigate some of your torture.

You can't, super-genius fucking fool.

>>23037550
>Science has had serious problems since the beginning of the 1900s with deciding that X or Y is settled truth
That's mainly a problem with scientific discovery were communicated to the public and it only got worse with clickbait media were a claim from scientist like "data result may suggest something but we need new experiment/data" are turned into "huge discovery, end of the world as we know it!"

>>23037539 (OP)
>God will never allow humans to know everything.
Ok but then how do you KNOW that he does and how do you KNOW what his intentions are?

This is reincarnated Jesus with a protip for for the fel souls trapped in monkey corpuses who ARE capable of listening (had a real father):

Don't. Mock. God.

I'll just leave this here and exit gracefully.

The big bang theory was the best argument for God in human history


The end of the big bang is a seeiousmproblem for Christian's

>>23037547
>Isotropy of the Universe is just a convenient devicefor modern cosmology
Universe isotrophy was never based on any evidence, it was a default assumption because they were too lazy to consider otherwise.

>>23037540
that blue tick is all he needs

>>23037539 (OP)
Guys THERE IS AN UNKNOWN PHYSICS.
> one
> unknown
> physics
Geniuses everywhere

>>23037601
The very incomprehensibility of the magnitude and speed at which those particles and anti-particles energized and moved is but one of so many proofs of His existence.

But...

As I am, so I see.

>>23037561
>we have misunderstood the universe
why do they say stupid shit like this? not knowing there's a void in space is not misunderstanding anything. if anything it helps explain how much we understand the universe because of how many problems it caused in the model

>>23037599
By the way you go to Heaven after ten incarnations (righteous or fel)...

Also all the numinous numbers are perfect and GOD is perfect.

I think I am just a life form made from readily available elements found in the Universe. Why do people have Neanderthal DNA? When you die your body is matter and can never be destroyed. I think people are stuck on the concept of time. If you stop and think about it there is no such thing. "What time is it?" is based on our Sun in relation to the Earths rotation. What time is it on Mercury? It's 1392 past 563.

>>23037582
yeah dark energy is but our first shot at explaining accelerated expansion. Maybe it isn't actually a type of energy and our models are wrong or space has some kind of inherent behaviour. I was merely speculating with the ideas/concepts we have already made.
It's also fair enough if you feel it's more truthful to say our understanding of the nature of the universe is still inconclusive rather than refer to the big bang theory which lines up with most of our observations so far.

>>23037539 (OP)
Actually the new findings are affirming what panentheists have been saying all along and getting rid of Jewish nonsense teachings like a finite universe with a beginning and an end.

>>23037539 (OP)
When something is an answer to everything, it's actually an answer to nothing. When you ask a question and the answer is God, it doesn't mean anything.
Whenever I see christfags trying to argue, it feels more like they are trying to convince themselves that they are right, otherwise they wouldn't give a shit.

>>23037547
Bullshit the same laws apply everywhere.

>>23037539 (OP)
You wrote that on an incredibly complex machine that was designed using quantum mechanics.

Once you manage to post on 4chan using prayer I can concede.

>>23037550
It's called confirmation bias / selective reasoning and it's why philosophy and critical thinking and psychology should be MANDATORY for everyone going through school before they go into any other fields and those who can't figure out the cognitive biases, logical fallacies, etc. and know them off by heart should not be allowed to progress any further until they master the basics.

What actually happened
>telescope gaves some data that if true, you interpret it in a certain way can maybe possibly mean some coefficient no one outside of particle physics phd holders is off by 10%, provides evidence for/against some non-mainstream theory like stringor maybe if we're really bold say universe is a billion years older
What average schizo reads
>Earth is flat, universe is electric, angular momentum is fake, aylmaos are confirmed and they are demons, God is found and scientists can't hide it all anymore

>>23037563
the moon orbits around the earth, it's not often in the earths shadow. What you're seeing is a round object being illuminated from one side at a time and you're only seeing some of the reflected light because it's a curved surface. When the moon is totally dark, it is actually in between us and the sun, it's not behind the earth in it's shadow. The side that is being illuminated is facing away from the earth so we don't get any reflected light. Shadows have almost nothing to do with it.

>>23037552
what supports the flat dome?

>>23037607
I'll tell you all a secret about Heaven:

It's beyond perfect (this does make sense.); you can do anything you want, going anywhere, talking to anyone, experiencing everything...

You're also Living at the speed of light, with all the implications thereof.

You don't care about your misiries and agonies on this sacrifice hell planet once you get there...

>>23037614
You can't teach npcs critical thinking anymore than play audio from a device that lacks speakers

>>23037615
>telescope gaves some data that if true, you interpret it in a certain way can maybe possibly mean some coefficient no one outside of particle physics phd holders is off by 10%, provides evidence for/against some non-mainstream theory like stringor maybe if we're really bold say universe is a billion years older
You don't understand or couldn't prove a single of this verbal salad, you jusst believe it because the jewish science that told you boosters are good for you said so

>>23037618
Father made the typo.

Also, God doesn't suck. You do, demonic rebels.

I know about My brother too. Not telling...

>>23037565
Show me that rock reflecting sunlight at night.

>>23037552
>Earth is flat with a dome.

Absolutely bullshit.

>God exists.

True but not the personal God of the Bible, more like the God of Spinoza.

>Aliens don't exist.

Highly improbable and there is a legitimate UAP phenomena here the full nature of which is not entirely understood but many possibilities all exist.

>Space isn't real.

Space is divine and contains everything. Immutable, infinite, eternal, etc. it has so many divine qualities.

>Never went to the moon.

You can prove for yourself we've been to the moon there's a mirror on there you can shine a lazer at. You may also view with a telescope objects left on the moon.

>Nukes don't exist.

Highly improbable there is a lot of people who work in making them, acquiring the materials, putting it together, there's schematics, etc. so much things going on for something that is fake. It's like how Flat Earthers ignore all the people employed in keeping satellites and GPS system go and how the systems they use require calculations based on a spherical Earth.

>Evolution is a lie.

Darwinism is inaccurate. Evolution and involution are valid. Rudolf Steiner, Lamarck, William Walker Atkinson, etc. give the correct understanding of evolution. It's not a random process, it's a mental process guided by desire/emotion and which refines itself or corrupts itself based on mental processes and the changes happen on extremely fast time scales as evidenced by the rapid speciation after each mass extinction event.

>Germ Theory is a lie.

It's not but there's a lot of knowledge that is contained in Traditional Chinese Medicine that is just ignored by the west so we have ONLY Germ theory while they have a more complete understanding of what goes on in the body.

>>23037611
Is it fun being a hollow, sophist, shadow puppet?

You're not smart.

>>23037560
>regurgitate their masters' bullshit theories
Holy projection, Batman!

>>23037623
I'm not homophobic, however; you're a faggot.

god revealed to me how the universe works in a vision

>>23037552
>The world is ruled by secret societies that worship Satan.

Fuck no. Also most of the secret societies that have existed since the French Revolution have all been for the purpose of creating secular rule and overthrowing hereditary kings. America is an expression of the desire to get away from theocracy and hereditary kings.

Deception? You promulgate superstition and lies that are easily debunked. People like you are the reason secret societies were formed to promote rationalism, empiricism, pragmatism, and other philosophical movements that get away from the cringe that is zombie kike worship.

>They make you think you live on a spinning ball.

We do and every celestial object can be observed clearly to be a spinning ball as well. You can also measure their size and distance by using different levels of zoom.

>They make you think you're just an animal.

We're spiritual beings inhabiting an animal. One part divine and one part Earthly creature.

>They make you think there's a deadly virus out there.

lol, for a little while we thought that, once they realized it wasn't deadly they stopped saying hug a chink and instead decided to switch to using it as an excuse to introduce authoritarian lockdowns.

>Luciferyans are behind liberalism, feminism, socialism, marxism, communism, multiculturalism, egalitarianism, social decay and degradation.

Not naming the jew? You're a jew. Luciferianism is a made up bullshit term. The people behind all that shit have names and identities and associations and it's JEWS. They are Jews. Not insert-bullshit-scapegoat-here like "Luciferian" of "Satanist". Name the jew, retard.

>- Religion, specifically Christianity

I despise religion and really want Christianity gone for the specific reason it's the main mind virus that has infected white minds. The other religions also are growing to be a threat but mostly they infect the minds of people I don't care about so I don't give a shit.

>>23037618
gee great, sounds like i'll immediately lose any aspects of who or what I am in this instant of eternal splendor. What happens if I don't believe, oh the same but indescribable torture where I'll certainly go insane and lose any sense of self as well. What's the difference. I still won't be a conscious version of me. Your promise of immortality is a lie christcuck

>>23037552
>- Family
Families are good as long as they are white and healthy.

>- Nation
Nations are good and every nation is defined by its blood nothing else. Civic nationalism is a huge lie. Just giving people some passport doesn't make one part of a given nation.

>- Property
Property is good and we should continue to have private property.

>Hence these civilizational concepts are under relentless assault to make way for their satanic New World Order led by the Antichrist after a fake alien invasion known as project Blue Beam.

Sounds like narrative prep to help you maintain your christcuck delusions after a potential paradigm shift caused by the introduction of off-worlders.

>ALL of these conspiracies hinges on the original, mother of all psyops and hoaxes: Earth being a ball floating in nothing, revolving around the sun (remember, the satanic cabal are pagan sun worshippers..)

Everything is contained within space aka a "no thing". Deal with it. Also every object orbits every other object and our star system is orbiting around the galactic center and our galaxy is itself part of a galactic super cluster of galaxies all moving together through the cosmos.

>>23037568
>theodicy
think about it like this anon:
somebody offers you an immortality pill that will give you infinite years of life
but while your body absorbs the pill, the first 100 years will be painful
do you consider the pill to be a gift or a curse?
seeing as how the suffering is 0.00000...1% of the time you will live, most would consider the immortality pill a gift.
now consider that you already have this deal; your soul will live forever but has to go through temporary suffering in this life first

>>23037628
Your words are merely pointers because you lack access to your subconscious/unconscious mind.

I don't need to destroy you. You've sown the seeds of your own destruction AND you're so easy to dement that your only hope on earth is...

Death.

>>23037556
Nah it's the physics of mind/desire/plasma that they've been ignoring but which has been talked about continuously for a few hundred years now.

>>23037598
Tower of Babel.

>>23037629
What a coward you are.

>we don't know something
>therefore god

Probably the dumbest christcuck argument of them all. In the middle ages you would think that thunder = god.

>>23037539 (OP)
Space is a movie that God put in the skys for us.

>>23037561
https://www.yogebooks.com/english/atkinson/1906dynamicthought.pdf

Dynamic Thoughts or the Law of Vibrant Energy.

This book addresses several issues like how classical physics would have predicted a star to have burned out much faster if it's energy was uniformly radiated out in all directions and also explains some light physics stuff about how various bodies in the solar system are in resonance with each other and how light actually traverses the void.

>>23037637
Thunder is part of God, foolcuck. Someone in our family will be able to create thunderbolts and longitudinal energy, i.e. be like Thor.

>>23037539 (OP)
science isnt flawed, it's a methodology
the ones that are flawed are the people that use the word science without actually following the methodology
i hope that one day you retards will stop doing this

>>23037556
>...IS CALLED GOD

>>23037564
Pfft, OP's post is just further evidence christcuckery is real, big bang is Christian/Jew propaganda that fits in perfectly with the christcuck narrative.

>>23037564
Dark (insert-whatever) is materialists coping and adding in an unproven variable to explain observations. None of the dark matter, dark energy, etc. bs has ever been detected or verified.

>>23037539 (OP)
>what is the scientific method
Expected take from a 60 IQ baboon

>>23037565
That rock is receiving far less intense light because the atmosphere filters out a lot of the light. Go get a PAR meter and try it out also you can find instances of rocks appearing to glow here on Earth when conditions are right and the sunlight reaching them is really intense, doesn't make for a good photograph though.

>>23037569
>bronze age genital mutilating defeated by chariots sandnigger schizobabble wall

>>23037636
says the namefag who is so desperate for approval they'll accept the deletion of their self as a reward for following other peoples rules all their life. Some of us don't run away scared when we have a difficult thought. Try exploring your base nature retard instead of hiding in the good boy feels when you deny reality

>>23037562
Christian Argument: Translation of copy of copy of copy of book written by ancient goat herders says God is real. We know we can trust the book because the book says it is God's word.

Agnostic argument: we lack any direct or indirect evidence that an invisible man lives in the sky, but we can't prove that one exists.

Atheist argument: believing in imaginary sky friends is retarded.

Choose your poison. I honestly don't give a fuck. The world would be a better place if we nuked Jerusalem, Mecca and the Vatican though. I don't really know where the Hindus and Buddhists keep their holy bullshit, so probably best just glass all of India and China. For the children.

>>23037627
>god revealed to me how the universe works in a vision
I think that's the only way it works. I'm startinhg to seriously consider that everything you may see externally is like the movie your watching on a cosmic silver-screen. People don't like it (or do), and try to destroy or become part of the screen. Of course. we all know that interacting with the screen doesn't change the movie being projected. One would have to alter the projector to actually change the movie. To put it very simply.
That's ignoring the idea that you could also interact with the movie as it was being filmed at some point in the "past", which of course doesn't exist as "separate" from the present, since all time and space is simply a 4d hyperObject that very rarely changes in any meaningful way.

Start on the first metaphor first and see how that one suits you before you think more deeply about the rest of it

>>23037550
>since the beginning of the 1900s
I'm not even going to get into it but there's a million examples of "universal truths" being proven wrong throughout history.
>Nothing is true, everything is permitted
You live life accepting what you can, but you must always acknowledge that your reality can one day crash down around you. But time moves on regardless of anything, so all you can do is accept your new situation/the situation of the universe around you and take it from there.

>>23037572
Things appear uniform on a scale that is more familiar to us but on the very small and very large scale new patterns and irregularities can be observed that require a theoretical framework for explanation such as being explained in terms of probabilities (materialist cope) or can be explained in terms of plasma physics and mentalism.

>>23037561
An interesting idea, but I'd say it's more likely that we've misunderstood or mis-measured something about the properties of light/EMR that reaches us from elsewhere, to the extent that objects we estimate are a certain distance away are actually much farther or closer.

>>23037575
>dark energy
Actually they're pretty sure they figured that one out a few weeks ago. It's all in those strands of gas reaching between stars, which are hotter and denser than we initially thought, and account for the missing mass that until now was attributed to an unknown invisible exotic matter.

>>23037539 (OP)
Nice. I hope it's not caused by a faulty telescope. GOODBYE JEWISH PHYSICS, IT'S TIME FOR WHITE PHYSICS TO RETURN

>>23037595
Make it like 140 characters. Celestial Twitter. The best part would probably the the trolls.

>>23037605
> The very incomprehensibility
Your lack of imagination does not prove the existence of God.

>>23037574
Their actions are directly responsible for massive amounts of midwit nihilism as people take their theories seriously then extrapolate it to conclusions about "heat death of the universe" and other such nihilistic ideas that create despair in people. A lot of people could have avoided an existential crisis by realizing that the universe is eternal.

The Aetherial plane influences the Physical Universe. "Scientists" don't know shit and never did, all their shit is based on pompous assertions. Bitch you don't know shit sit your ass down the Universe isn't dictated by a buncha gay-ass chalk scribbles.

>>23037608
You are the universe. You are the mechanism by which a large enough cloud of hydrogen, when left alone for long enough, wakes up and wonders why it is here.

>>23037618
How do you know?

>>23037579
They hear something and just don't ever question it. They don't practice hegelian dialectic. If they did they'd all have been fired from their jobs because when told about the holocaust they'd have questioned it and studied both sides of the argument and come to unkosher conclusions. The problem with so many "academics" and "journalists" is their inability to question their assumptions. It's selective reasoning / confirmation bias on a large scale. Most journalists are propagandists defending a preconceived stance. Science itself has also been infected with this, hence the big bang infecting science to confirm christcuck narratives.

>>23037658
Nigger, you wouldn't even be here if not for scientists. Look around you, stupid.

>>23037662
what kind of retarded statement is that?
since when do we need (((scientists))) to live?

>>23037552
Genius.

>>23037623
Gormless retard.

>>23037586
Are you suggesting a sphere for some dumb reason can't wobble? That wobbles somehow disprove the Earth is a sphere?

>>23037650
Holy fucking midwit
Kek

>>23037594
Yes. Also midwitz like kurtzegat on youtube are probably either having a meltdown right now over this or going to have to admit most of their videos are bullshit and just act like they always never believed the old paradigm.

>>23037608
You're reminding me I need to resume reading more of Martin Heidegger because most of his philosophy is about time.

>>23037539 (OP)
>CLICKBAIT
>SCIENCE MAKES ADVANCEMENT
>SEE? THIS PROVES THE FAIRY TALES WHERE ANIMALS CAN TALK!!!

>>23037653
>account for the missing mass
Are you talking about dark matter? Sounds exciting I'll read up on it.

>>23037615
Both your greentexts are wrong.

>>23037619
Actually it should be possible because they are basically computers and one should be able to program them to adhere to the non-contradiction principle of truth. I don't know why one has to be sentient or self-aware to come output correct data.

>>23037552
source: 34 Bitchute links

>>23037539 (OP)
There has long been the theory that our understanding of the universe to function needs at least one more fundamental force in addition to the 4 we have discovered yet.

>>23037620
You can't even refute him properly or at least haven't bothered to do so.

The refutation to what he is saying there is this: His conclusion that things might be off by 10% or that the age of the universe might be pushed back a certain number of years is retarded because the observations here clearly show that the universe is not expanding at a uniform rate (exponential or linear it doesn't matter). Since it's not uniform we can't determine anymore the supposed age of the universe based on the observable universe.

Also the fact that every time we get a better telescope and see further out we just would push back the date for how old the universe supposedly is just suggests it's infinite. Every supposed age of the universe has just been based on how much of the universe could be observed at the time.

Since there's no uniform expansion of the universe we now have another issue with determining the supposed age of the universe.

>>23037539 (OP)
>new telescope reveals new measurements
>this ends science
You should be culled for the betterment of human genetics.

>>23037668
I go deep. I also do not believe there is a beginning and an end. There is just now. People who ask "if you could go back and change something.." are stuck in some weird past thing.

>>23037539 (OP)
>Atheists are seething right now.

This has nothing to do with religion you imbecile.

>>23037539 (OP)
>It's the end of the cult of science. Atheists are seething right now.
no you thick moron, this is precisely what science does, crafting theories then testing them against experimental results or observation, and then refining the theory to look for better explanations when results prove the theory is incomplete

>>23037539 (OP)
DONt let them KEep You in the darK. Keep strONG.

>>23037539 (OP)
God is real
He is not a kike
He is as sick of jews as us

>>23037563
>Like, how does the earth cast a crescent shadow unless it's warping or undulating?

wat?

the earth only casts a shadow when the relative positions of the earth, moon and sun place the earth between the other two, and the earth blocks sunlight from reaching the moon
the crescent happens because the moon is a sphere, lit by the sun, and you see it from the side

don't you understand the simplest 3d shit at all?

>>23037663
I was speaking of the internet, but you're so stupid, you would probably die in infancy.

>>23037539 (OP)


Don´t say another Goddamn word. Up until now, I´ve been polite. If you say anything else - word one - I will kill myself. And when my tainted spirit finds its destination, I will topple the master of that dark place. From my black throne, I will lash together a machine of bone and blood, and fueled by my hatred for you this fear engine will bore a hole between this world and that one. When it begins, you will hear the sound of children screaming - as thought from a great distance. A smoking orb of nothing will grow above your bed, and from it will emerge a thousand starving crows. As I slip trought the widening maw in my new form, you will catch only a glimpse of my radiance before you are incinerated. Then, as tears of bubbling pitch stream down my face, my dark work will begin. I will open one of my six mouths, and I will sing the song that ends the Earth.

>>23037550
When George Soros or USAID pays your research grants, you write whatever he says you write. You’d be a racist otherwise. Racist bigot.

>>23037539 (OP)
>>23037541
Nah... they are just grabbing at straws at this point... everything to keep holding to that FAKE AND GAY notion of "Relativity".

Fucking JEWISH Physics

>>23037684
wait, you actually think that the internet was built by scientists? do you even know what science means?
the internet was made by engineers, retard

>>23037539 (OP)
We already knew the science was wrong. Nobody thought otherwise. Also, gog is not real. Its pure fiction some ancient retards invented.

>>23037560
Way to prove the point lmfao

>>23037547
You don’t know that either.

>>23037539 (OP)
The difference is that science is self correcting but religious dogma remains in conflict with empirical facts, you dumb monkey

>>23037539 (OP)
generally all the deep space stuff and subatomic physics is just inventing stuff to fit the equations
we've got no way to directly confirm that any of those fantasies are right or wrong

>>23037548
>muh hecking science!

>>23037551
>>23037578
a lot of people ended their playthrough of morrowind on the quest behind that guy. I think it took me few hours to find it.

>>23037559
they will just invent another magic constant and the calculations will "make sense" again

>>23037574
>Pope Albino Luciani
>excellent man
>open to science, ready to haul the Church into a new era
>brutally murdered

>>23037563
>waxxing gibbons

>>23037540
fpbp. KYS op.

>>23037548
I guarantee I'm Whiter than your mutted ass, and I can tell you that kike science is bullshit
Fuck Israel

>>23037540
kek

>>23037675
>Also the fact that every time we get a better telescope and see further out we just would push back the date for how old the universe supposedly is just suggests it's infinite
The universe doesn't run forever. Eventually it runs out of batteries and shuts down, because the whole thing is just an app running on God's iphone. And he ain't got no chargin' cable. Shiiieeet.

>>23037539 (OP)
things that prove things are eventually proven wrong by the latest incorrect fact

>>23037539 (OP)
Science = know something
Blind religion = know nothing

Also, which god?
It's fine to believe there's more and there's a Creator. Being absolutely zelaous about that creator being exactly like some ancient dusty book claims is retarded.

>>23037704
>Science = know something
you have no idea what science means

>>23037539 (OP)
>>23037559
>2024
Op a fag

>>23037539 (OP)
https://www.port.ac.uk/news-events-and-blogs/news/new-theory-challenges-how-our-universe-was-born

makes sense and works within the rules

Science is nothing but man's attempt to play God, and God just laughed.
Every time you think you've figured out the universe, He moves the goalposts.
Keep worshiping your telescopes while your models collapse.

>>23037549
tf did I do

>>23037594
>this clearly disproves the big bang doesnt it

Not necessarily.

If the expansion is slowing, than the universe would be expanding differently depending on where you look too. What other forces could effect it? Even a miniscule force over billions of yours would change speed drastically.

>>23037562
no matter what religious cope you want to use, you havent been able to proof anything ever. In the contrary,almost all of Its cultists are raping the commandments daily and also we have seen an increase of heretics like the Evangelists that are on the side of the Jews.

>>23037539 (OP)
>Atheists are seething right now
At?

>>23037627
Catch!

>>23037706
he’s actually right in a roundabout sense. Science is the collection of theories we know are NOT true and a few ideas we think MIGHT be true but we just haven’t been able to prove wrong yet

>>23037562
why do abrah*mists think anyone who believes in a god should be necessary a yahove (and its variants) believer?

>>23037601
It's the opposite. The big bang implies a end to the universe. There is no end. The universe is a giant toroid that just spins around forever, like God. It's eternal. The only reason retarded scientists thought it would just keep expanding, is because of our observational perspective within the toroid.

>>23037562
yeah. I'm sure. what you gon do about it?

>>23037562
Christian arguments:
>Incest good, fuck your children.
>Jews good, do as they say.

>>23037584
Imagine putting that much Truth into a single jpg image.

>>23037547
>In reality it is highly anisotropic full of areas with different physical laws.
If the laws change by locality, then it isn't Law

>>23037539 (OP)
That's how the simulation works.
You reach the end of perception and it prints more road.

>>23037643
>>23037644
>>23037644
You know jack-shit, memeflag.
The observations are data driven and correct, the explication that is wrong base on bullshit because don't actually know what is going on and need to make things up as they go, as parcel.
Most of science is like that, made for fit the abrahamic narrative about reality.
From all civilizations being only 6k years old, even those that were encounter with hundreds of mammoth tusks bury with them.
To the far reaches of space science.
The fact is that recent discoveries, not even attirbute to the James Webb telescope, instead it was from the ALMA survey of the micro-wave background find literal galaxies on the data proving it just standard emissions in space and has fuck all relation with some frozen and record in time event. So the most recent CMB already disproven le Big Bang, these finds of the james webb telescope only hammer the nail in the coffin of the christcuck theory.
And what I was saying before your animal-self though you were my intelectual equal, was that I know the answer, and no. There's no expansion, and there's no dark energy and the big bang didn't happen.
I'm not trying to give my theory away here, so that's as far as I'll tell you.
My model doesn't involve the creation of any bullshit energy or matter, just the data and my own theory.
>>23037645
show flag pussy-ass memeflag. My IQ is 200+ and I'm whiter than you ever be, white people don't use memeflag, after all we created the standards of flags.
But we both know why you hide your flag, ashamed of the sheer number of shitskin on your own country.
The old
>the kettle calling the pot, nigger
kek

Your universe is a LIMACON.

Take a loop of string or a necklace. Now twist a loop of it and place that loop inside. That is a cardioid shape with an inner loop linked to an outer loop. As you expand the inner loop, the outer loop shrinks inwards.

https://demonstrations.wolfram.com/LimaconsAsLociAndOtherPolarCurves/

The inner loop is your universe of positive matter.
The outer loop is a wall of antimatter.

As the universe you know of becomes "more round", the outer universe of antimatter grows nearer.

If you want a cheap 3D example. Inflate a clear rounded balloon to HALF INFLATION pressure. With trimmed fingernails (so you don't pop the balloon), press on the outer skin of the balloon near the balloon knot and insert your fingers inside without popping the balloon and create a mini balloon within the balloon. That is a rough approximation of your universe in 3D.

>ctrl+f
>electric universe
>0 results
you are all small time

>>23037539 (OP)
>science is flawed
You don't even understand what science is. Science is the act of figuring things out. When we get new information we adjust our theories. Your thread proves you are a retard.

>>23037725
This thread is full of religious retards. So of course they would never bring up electric universe.

>>23037724
what happens beyond +/-5 ?

>>23037563
>I cannot wrap my head around the waxing and waning gibbous phases of the lunar cycle. If the earth and moon are spherical bodies, should not the visible part of the moon always appear as a crescent? Like, how does the earth cast a crescent shadow unless it's warping or undulating?

SHORT ANSWER.
The moon is not a ball.
The moon is a Concave BOWL (like a satellite dish or a cereal bowl). You are looking inside a bowl, you are not looking a ball. Now do you understand how the moon can focus light?

Flat Earth Moon is Concave?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dLvcjgOGs9s

Take a cereal bowl in a dimly lit room and hold a flashlight over it

>expecting to get accurate images from millions of light years away
lol
lmao

Now imagine a clear dome with a bowl wobbling on top of it.

>>23037552
Nah If you are Christian You must read Genesis again and realize that God shattered the dome and the firmament to flood the world.

>>23037659
Cute

>only god knows -ACK

Meanwhile.. the universe according to the Biblical jewgod

It's because Einstein was the "meant for public" slop and the real genius was Tesla but instead of having revolutionary telepathic medicine and pre-crime systems more effective than Minority Report we have glowniggers simulating roach eggs being audio transmitters in trailer parks so that they can sell more Seroquel and Risperidone.

retarded pseud account farming attentionshekels from third world cattle, and you niggers screencap and repost here
die

>>23037547
It is more likely there are unknown conditions affect things in ways we do not understand than it is the "laws" themselves being different. We just don't comprehend the entire picture with our sensory organs.

>>23037717
Where does the energy for spinning come from?

>>23037561
>>23037579
It seems incredibly obvious that light simply has some mechanism for slightly losing energy over vast distances.
>whoooaaaa the further away it is, the more redshifted it is! that must mean everything's speeding up!!
No dumbass, the 10 billion year old photon is just wiggling a few percent slower than when it started off because it lost a little energy on the trip.

>>23037602
>jew science

>>23037623
>Traditional Chinese Medicine
Lmao

>>23037732
>Christian
>Follower of Christ
How does being a Christ follower square with drinking Eric Dubay's semen?

Oh course it's fuckin flawed. You think they actually know what's at the center of the earth. Or that the distance is 6371 kms?? The furthest we've dug was 14kms lol.
It's all fucking lies.

So what when science proves pagans are right, there are divine entities and creator beings, nature is the path to those divinities and that the abrahamic "god" is a psychotic parasite?

>>23037539 (OP)
>God
lol

>>23037594
>>23037561
It means something is slowing the expansion down in those areas. The concept of the universe expanding itself is difficult to wrap your mind around as is.

>>23037721
>If the laws change by locality, then it isn't Law
If a law doesn't apply outside a country then it isnt a law? Its a human concept anyway

>>23037539 (OP)
The freemasons and the powers behind them lied to you about literally everything. Either half-truths, false concepts, or blatant lies to confuse you and give you a false understanding of the world, mankind, time, history, and your place in it so that you dedicate your life, soul, and energy to their doctrines in which they have full authority over every aspect. They control Science™, they are the priests that ex-plain and ex-plane the earth for you, they wield that trademark, and that means they control our space in life (if we give them authority over the earth).
Right from the start this world lied to you about the very ground you stand on, the 3 dimensional reality you live in. A fundamental lie, and everything people derive from this false reality will consequently be some kind of falsehood. We are now at the point where mankind believes they are mutated animals, and they are spinning around themselves on a perfectly spherical rock in random space that exploded once. A psy-op, mental conditioning. Do not underestimate the spiritual life-guiding implications of this godless concept. Most people are not level-headed, they are not stationary, they are not based, they are incapable to see physical truth at this point. Common sense isn't really all that common anymore. They rather believe in jewish mysticism like space-time and relativity, which leads to everything being "relative". No distinct up and down, which leads to good and evil being "relative", male and female being "relative", all empty space and imaginations in our mind. Let that sink in, the majority of people ultimately don't even know what is UP and what is DOWN. In other words, there is no absolute truth in this universe.

>>23037550
>'settled science'
Literally no scientist actually says this. This is a journofag term.
>was actually deeply flawed bullshit
Any physicist is gonna readily admit that Quantum Mechanics and General Relativity are incomplete theories. The reason we even make these new telescopes is to find holes in the theories where new shit can be discovered.

>>23037539 (OP)
Moron

>>23037743
Ignoramus. The white man is curious and researches how geologists figure it out.

>>23037539 (OP)
No such thing as an atheist its all in their heads existence made them too.

As for gods that a deal breaker too there is only the forces that make life happen. even something artificially made rely on the forces of nature to take root like hybrid plants etc, its all indivisible from naturally occurring systems that maintain and create life forces

>>23037561
Isn't the current possible explanation that we live on the edge of a void and time dilation changes the tension value depending on wjwere we look

>>23037612
Not if you pass into bubbles of different laws.
>>23037619
NPCs should be detected and denied access to sciences. Good character and honesty should also be requirements for becoming a judge or having high positions in society. Society is rotting from dishonest, stupid management and leaders. This whole system is gay

>>23037756
Oh yeah this is another issue. The CMB turned out just to be a low rez image of more space and galaxies and not the soup of plasma we thought it was

>>23037548
I think americans lost that right of calling anyone else non-white.

>>23037600
So, if you fucking love science, you concede that scientists are mistaken.
So I was right not to be vaxxed. Thank you, my faggotty friend.

>>23037539 (OP)
science doesn't know anything. we can't see atoms or anything smaller, nobody knows what gravity really is what the universe is. all is theory

>>23037760

Based on what they do know though, its not all lies. Some things have hardly been touched on, they can see the glow around planets ,colours and clouds and tell which elements make them up, so a lot is observations and other things are just how they know things react in real life

>>23037539 (OP)
>The only valid science is that which exalts God.
You are such an idiot, butter knives are hazardous items to you and others in your immediate area.

>>23037623
Fucking kys, you propaganda gobbling faggot. I'd torture you to death for being either disingineous or outright retarded

>>23037559
>>23037539 (OP)
https://archive.is/gaFzM

>>23037757
CMB?

>>23037760
>all is theory
Theory doesn't mean what you think it means.

>>23037767
can you prove universe started from a explosion

>>23037768
Can you prove you're not a faggot?

>>23037768
You got a better reason why everything is being pulled away from each other in such a way that every single point seems to be the center of it all?

>>23037539 (OP)
Who wants to bet this has something to do Hubble tension? Again.
>be early 20th century science
>german scientists BTFO Bohr's jewish atomic model with extremely reliable and accurate quantum physics models
>meanwhile, jewish Einstein develops "visual babble" theory of relativity to subvert chad newtonian physics
>entire (((scientific community))) fellates his amazing discovery
>"oh noes but combining relativity and quantum mechanics creates mathematical nonsense, so one of them must be wrong!"
>surely Einstein was totally correct, lets make sure (((science))) wastes the next century on destroying quantum mechanics with schizobabble theories that STILL don't work
>meanwhile, be CHAD ASTRONOMER EDWIN HUBBLE
>btfo relativity and Einstein's theories on the universe with ACTUAL PHYSICAL EMPIRICALLY OBSERVABLE EVIDENCE
>(((astrophysicists))) spend the next century pathetically scrambling to account for "Hubble Tension Discrepancy" within their models in whatever ways possible
>Literally ANYTHING goes, as long as we don't accidentally refute Einstein and show that the entire past century of astrophysics and post-german quantum mechanics is just kiked damage control
Kill all astrophysicists for their fake and gay (((science)))
And always remember to thank based astronomer kings for their REAL contributions to mankinds understanding of the universe.

>>23037770
An explosion isn't required to inflate a balloon. The expansion of space is not uniform. Our physics is crude and requires a "finger on the scale" to make any of it "work." We have absolutely no clue what we are observing. We make assumptions and bend the math to confirm our preconceived notions. Science, as a philosophy, died a long time ago

>>23037770
It's not. Hubble Constant has another answer.
No, I'm not giving you here for free, but if you want to give me a real publishing journal that will not pussy out on publishing on technicality.
Nature didn't even read my shit, at least your burger AAS has read it, and reject on a minor thing, I got the feeling that is hard for the establishment to eat something like that, knowing your whole narrative is fake and gay is hard to swallow after all.
But I'll be doing a v2 of my paper and try again.
After all I just need to rebute some 2024 paper on some super-novae. Pretty fucking easy if you ask me.
My theory has a alligment with the data on a scale beyond the limit of error measure by current instrument, like 0.0001, while ΛCDM has like 0.01~0.02. And it also don't depend on bullshit every step of the way of the observational data to fit and no fictional energy and things like that needed.

>>23037571
>this poster needs to go look in the mirror and realize its only making fun of himself

>>23037770
Maybe your cameras suck ass.

>>23037766
cosmic microwave backgound
>astronomers look into space
>see more galaxies
>zoom in more
>see more galaxies
>as they look harder and deeper they are looking into the past because it takes light time to reach us
>at some point we no longer see galaxies
>instead see just a bunch hot material
>like the screen is a bunch of plasma
>"holy shit this cosmic, microwave, background must be the early universe! Before everything cooled down after the big bang!"
>get a better telescope
>see it a bit better
>now fast forward decades to today
>get a really, really really good telescope
>turns out it was just more galaxies
>there was no cosmic soup from an early universe
>all the data explaining the big bang, expansion, cosmic inflation is suddenly built on a misunderstanding
oops lmfao

>Heh, they found new info that conflicts with the current understanding of things
>That must mean it's all done by magic!
Martyr yourself.

>>23037777
anyone who grew up in the 90s knows how hard faggots pushed science as a weapon against Christianity
Having that same shit be now wrong decades later is going to lead to some smug posting, its only natural

>>23037702
Negentropic processes balance out the entropic processes.

Look up The Animate and The Inanimate a book by William James Sidi.

>>23037552
This post glows

>>23037778
>anyone who grew up in the 90s knows how hard faggots pushed science as a weapon against Christianity
It was the other way around in my experience
>>23037778
>Having that same shit be now wrong decades later
You're a moron

>>23037776
>data and information changes as we advance our technology
Again, you are a moron

>>23037552
Based and checked

>>23037539 (OP)
Whats with these 3 body problem promotional posts? First the Trisolaran fleet, then the Dark Forest and now Sophons interfering with physics? Fucking please.

>>23037776
>get a really, really really good telescope
What telescope would that be? If you're talking about the James Webb, it can't even see the CMB. James Webb sees infrared. CMB is redshifted into the microwave spectrum (it's in the name) and is significantly farther back in time.

>>23037550
>I mean the newer telescopes are introducing pretty interesting possibilities that 'settled science' was actually deeply flawed bullshit.
Bro there is no settled science on this shit... Big Bang THEORY, General Relativity THEROY, Quantum THEORY... Everything we 'know' is just conjecture based on what we've observed, that changes when we observe something that contradicts it.

>>23037776
>holy shit this cosmic, microwave, background must be the early universe
The observed CMB is a nearly exact match to the expected black-body radiation profile
It's not just "Hey, we see heat, maybe it's this"
It was predicted before it was observed based on the Big Bang model

>>23037551
i fuckin loled

>>23037786
>Everything we 'know' is just conjecture based on what we've observed, that changes when we observe something that contradicts it.
Yeah. Old information gets updated with new information. I don't see why people have trouble with this

>>23037539 (OP)
Why would God create a massive universe so big that man will never possibly see any of it beyond his own solar system? Why would we be central to this creation? Why would God, who created the vast cosmos, care about the position of our planet relative to the sun. The sun which is one of trillions and trillions and in fact literally innumerable stars? Don't you think if it was all about us 100%, the rest of that universe is pointless?

If God exists he probably doesn't even know we exist. We are like a bug in a computer program. Maybe an emergent feature. But we are almost certainly not the focus of whatever we live in, and God caring about earth's revolution around the sun is just laughable. That's like me caring where a grain of sand on a beach is relative to the fat guy walking down the beach and placing some sort of meaning and significance on this phenomenon. It's such a microcosmic and dubious measurement that to think the creator of the universe would ascribe meaning to our little planet in the sea of stars is surely the realm of an idiot.

Don't get me wrong, I am a theist. I believe in a prime mover. I don't think they are "divine", though. I don't think they know we exist, and if they did they'd probably be indifferent to us. Which is what a total lack of contact between the creator and us would suggest.

Or you can believe God is giving us a 2025 year shit test to see how much well put up with, or that God entrusted a pedophile to deliver his prophecy.

You, given that you are Catholic, are basically being fooled by a religion designed specifically to oo and aww 12th century peasants with its grandiose displays of idols, it's meaningless rituals that arent based in any kind of scripture. It's funny that you think you are . I'd have more respect for you if you were a Protestant, frankly. They are actually allowed to follow scriptural practices, even if all of them don't do so. They aren't a monolith, Catholicism is though

>>23037811

life was meant to emerge obviously or it'd all be a sterile environment with no chance of life , therefor life has purpose.

>We don't know these physics therefore god
Kill yourself christ cuck