How do i beat the liquid jew? Any tips are appreciated

>>23045774 (OP)
can't help you. if you know it's the jews already and you keep doing it you're ngmi

>>23045774 (OP)
Get addicted to stimulants and work all day.

Realize alcohol eats you alive and degenerates you. Just stop through sheer will power. Think of alcohol as a poison and know that being sober is the best feeling since you're not poisoned anymore. Exercise it helps a lot.

T. I quit smoking and drinking !!

>>23045774 (OP)
Play football or take MMA classes in the evening. You'd be to tired and get to sleep without drinking.


Reduce timer to 30 seconds mods.

You stop being a faggot. The booze is not the problem. You are. Men have drank booze for nearly all of human history, it was never an issue until the weak faggot zoomers came along.

>>23045774 (OP)
drink so much it breaks your legs

>>23045779
>Men have drank booze for nearly all of human history
And those men created todays society, infiltrated and ran by kikes.

>>23045774 (OP)
Move someplace warmer. Get away from your drinking frens. Change your routine.

>>23045776
where do i get stims at ?
i dont know any drug dealers

>>23045774 (OP)
My mother in law does this thing she calls boozy berries, where she soaks blueberries and raspberries in vodka and then eats them. It beats eating jello shots.

>>23045774 (OP)
start smoking weed. worked with me.

You need a hobby

>>23045785
weed is twice more expensive than alcohol
i live paycheck to paycheck because i smoke weed
if i could quit weed i would save money.

>>23045774 (OP)
Don't drink. Simple as. Addiction is a shitskin trait.

>t. 24 years sober

>>23045783
Don’t do it, you’ll feel even worse within a week and probably end up drinking more to compensate for the shit mood and overstimulation. Trick to beating alcoholism is support from others and keeping yourself busy

>>23045774 (OP)
Find something or someone worth quitting for.

>>23045774 (OP)
>>23045776
On the contrary, do you guys have any tips for someone new just getting into alcoholism? I've focused on my career, made a bunch of money, gotten myself addicted to nicotine+caffeine in the process and I still want to kill myself. It's time to retvrn to the time-honored slavic tradition of either depression-maxxing and drinking yourself to death or getting arrested for vodka-induced chimpouts... but I just don't like the taste of alcohol... Thanks in advance

>>23045774 (OP)
Associate the after feel with disgustingness
>dry mouth
>acetone or yeast smell
>drunkenness makes people retarded

1. Decide to quit
2. Identify your triggers
3. Stop interpreting triggers as a desire to drink, instead -
4. Reinterpret your triggers to a desire to quit drinking.
So, for instance, I get triggered to drink if I’m driving by a liquor store, but rather then interpreting that as a desire to drink I interpret it as, “I’m glad I don’t need to drink anymore”.
It takes about three weeks before the impulse goes away.

>>23045786
This is me except I actually am da based alpha.

>>23045792
Quit eating gluten
You will no longer feel suicidal

>>23045789
Drinking and then quitting demonstrates the utmost mastery over your base instincts. It’s the opposite of being an animal. The quitting part is hard…

>>23045792
Hold your nose when you drink it. Or get one of these, pour a beer in it.

>>23045774 (OP)
decide to stop, you thought you did in the past but you didn't
what might help is to have a replacement action

heavy alcoholism I think has physical withdrawal symptoms for that consult a medical profesional
maybe start into regular sport or hikes to keep yourself busy, don't have any alcohol in the house

>>23045790
>support from others

i have no gf

>>23045774 (OP)
Only pic related helped me in any way all other nonsense never did anything. For me at least NOT drinking is not the ultimate goal I can just go to jail and get there no alcohol either for me actually being happy and enjoying life again without alcohol was only possible with Pregabalin. It makes you a little bit high depending on the dose (for me 600mg a day) it just works. It makes addicted too but nothing extreme like benzos while it feels quite similar.
It completely kills your alcohol trigger for the day because your body HAS something and that's enough so you can continue your normal life.
I've tried so many anti deprissiva pills too but they're all bullshit and it makes sense when you actually learn what they're actually doing.
In my worst times it was a few bottles of wodka every day and with that it completely stopped and I could have a normal life again.

>>23045781
That only came about with the boomers.
It's also a completely separate issue. Mainly because booze was around BEFORE the kike religion was invented.

The kikes are the problem with the world.
You are the problem in your own life.
Booze is just a drink that gets blamed by weak men and women.

>>23045774 (OP)

Just stop drinking and don't keep it in the house. I'm two months sober by just being too lazy to go out and buy booze

>>23045774 (OP)
Buy a house so expensive you can no longer afford to drink.

>>23045774 (OP)
I'm going to recommend something also addictive. Something you shouldn't use without great care. But something that let me kick booze.
You can now go to almost any shop and get kratom shots, extracts, etc. You can try it. Take one night and have less than half of your normal booze quotient.
As soon as you feel shaky or restless, take enough kratom to buzz yourself.
This is likely 7-10 capsules of shitty kratom or 1 container of the kratom extract.
Then lay down and watch a movie.
Repeat as needed. But you MUST quit kratom within a month of starting. It's a bridge, not a crutch.

>>23045803
>non drinkers are smooth brained

>>23045801
>I'm off alcohol and on psychiatric drugs!
.. what a success story

I slowed down drinking cause I got old, still like a beer now and then though

Read this book, https://www.amazon.com/Freedom-Model-Addictions-Treatment-Recovery/dp/0983471347
They also have a podcast.

>>23045776
>work all day
This seems to be it right here. Every person I've ever known who got sober or got off drugs only did so because they don't have any free time.

>>23045788
No, it definitely is not unless you live somewhere where it's illegal. It's like $80 an oz here where I'm at. Even cheaper if you're smoking digital weed. A bottle of booze that you can pound in an afternoon is $60.

>>23045800
The freedom model is capable to help you quit and enjoy freedom while living in squalor and having no friends.

>>23045779
people have struggled with the addiction to it since it was invented
ONE IS TOO MUCH AND THIRTY ISN'T ENOUGH !

>>23045792
You can absorb alcohol through your rectum so start butt-chugging if you don't like the taste of alcohol.

I've never even been blackout drunk and all I drink is hard liquor straight or blended when I do drink.
But to be fair, I didn't start drinking until I was about 20. In my 30s now.
Just don't drink lmao.

>>23045774 (OP)
beat it up, physically

>>23045801
Your doctor just gave you that?
>>23045808
Will look into it thank you

>>23045792
Alcohol is a very strong carcinogen, destroys your gut mirobiome which further destroys your mood, it wrecks havoc on your dendrites in the brain leaving neurons isolated and binge drinking induces such a high level of toxicity that even neurons start to die.
No amount of it has any benefits and the damage it incurs on your heart is linear with the quantity you consume, starting from the tiniest amount.

Truly a retarded drug, if you ever have to drink NEVER ever BINGE in your life, no matter what and try to aim for maximum of 0.07% BAC per 2 hours and ideally maximum per that day, that usually means like two to three cans of beer spaced out over 2 hours and that's it, actually more like two, depends if you are fat or not.

>>23045814
>I've never even been blackout drunk and all I drink is hard liquor straight or blended when I do drink.
yeah so youre a massive faggot fedorafag le no ice in muh stotch gentlesir
>Just don't drink
this but not like a sassy faggot
taper off, sober up and avoid

>>23045806
Germany has very good clinics for rehab and fake opioids like kratom are total garbage.
For the detox you get pic related here which works much better than anything else.
I'm sure his problem is not coming down but instead staying abstinent without being a total depressed freak without any feelings anymore.

>>23045774 (OP)
Keep yourself busy
Make a list each day of what you need to get down and then a list of what you want to get done.
Try and not have money on you if you can.
Go to A.A
Fight people at your local bars to the point you're no longer allowed in.
Live in your car for a week. Can't drink and drive.
Become French I unno

>>23045819
Yeah exactly

>>23045809
I drank like a fish when I was working compared to now.

>>23045812
Weak men have issues with booze.

Brew it yourself and become the jew

>>23045816
I was auf Langzeit and the docs tried it with me and it instantly showed positive results.
It has many areas why you could become it but the biggest is general anxiety and for me it feels like if I take a little bit of speed and MDMA together with the chilling and anti anxiety effects of benzos.
You need to either go to a Langzeit for it or get a psychiater and for me it made my entire life worthy again.

>>23045774 (OP)
Just think about the Bible verses on it. Get all sides of it. Talk to Chat about it. Trial and error also because not everything can be explained by speech or text. You'll end up somewhere else for a while but you have to follow through fully. Every step of the way has to make sense in short order or you're doing it wrong.

>>23045823
mel gibson would flog you in a punch on

>>23045819
Forgot the pic lmao

>>23045774 (OP)
Take a full 30 days break once a year. To allow liver to heal.

>>23045774 (OP)

Try to reduce gradually, over a week or two. Talk to your doctor who may refer you to local addiction services, whose formal help will keep you motivated. Not sure how it works in Germany with rehab, here in the UK I was referred to residential rehab. Spent four months in there sorting my shit out. That was three years ago. I was homeless, jobless and my marriage was gone. One day at a time, I've got my own place, I'm at college and volunteering with a mental health charity.

It can be done, Germanon. I just had to lose everything and hit rock bottom to realise that. Good luck mate, and I do mean that.

>>23045810
>$60
Is that top shelf? I can get wild turkey for less than $20. I stick with claret at $11 for 5 litres. Weed is like a buck for a matchbox overstuffed but R200 a liter on the swazi border. Smokes are a dollar

>>23045827
I would break the old fucker's hip.
More importantly he did not drink his career/life away. He does not have a booze problem. He has a jew problem.

>>23045817
Claret is chock full of antioxidants. It is hard to drink it to excess. Beer is gyno and cosmic death fungus. Whisky was trying to rectify that. Jah gave us grape

>>23045830
protip: if you are going to reply to a 1pbtID aim it at the general audience
OP is busy posting other threads

>>23045774 (OP)
>How do I stop doing something?
You just stop doing it.

>>23045832
>I would break the old fucker's hip.
he'd slap you sideways bitch boy
only normalfaggots can be muh social drinkers

>>23045833
I agree with you but only for non alcoholic wine. Otherwise the problems are the same.

>>23045774 (OP)
I'm about to start drinking, fuck this gay life

>>23045774 (OP)
Just stop drinking, retard. It's not complicated.

>>23045826
>Just think about the Bible verses on it.
John 2: On the third day there was a wedding at Cana in Galilee, and the mother of Jesus was there. 2 Jesus also was invited to the wedding with his disciples. 3 When the wine ran out, the mother of Jesus said to him, “They have no wine.” 4 And Jesus said to her, “Woman, what does this have to do with me? My hour has not yet come.” 5 His mother said to the servants, “Do whatever he tells you.”

6 Now there were six stone water jars there for the Jewish rites of purification, each holding twenty or thirty gallons. 7 Jesus said to the servants, “Fill the jars with water.” And they filled them up to the brim. 8 And he said to them, “Now draw some out and take it to the master of the feast.” So they took it. 9 When the master of the feast tasted the water now become wine, and did not know where it came from (though the servants who had drawn the water knew), the master of the feast called the bridegroom 10 and said to him, “Everyone serves the good wine first, and when people have drunk freely, then the poor wine. But you have kept the good wine until now.” 11 This, the first of his signs, Jesus did at Cana in Galilee, and manifested his glory. And his disciples believed in him.

>>23045813
This. Butt chugging is always my go-to. I’ll stick my ass up in the air and have one of my drinking buddies hold the funnel and put the tube in. It’s great bc you can take turns doing a beer bong and then butt chugging one. Get lit faster from both ends

>>23045774 (OP)
Just don't drink it...duh.

>>23045774 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-q86QYl5Bw

>>23045836
I can only assume you've never met an actual drunk who's ruined their life due solely to their drinking.

1 month sober

>>23045833
Also keep in mind that wine has a much higher alcohol content than beer so you will have to drink even less in those I presume forced social contexts. That's roughly 4x 150ml (considered standard unit for wine) glasses of wine over two hours at max.

>>23045774 (OP)
You see it in your picture.

>>23045776
Works for non-alcoholics. For an alcoholic, stimulants a drinking enhancements that allow them to continue despite past any rational limit.

>>23045844
when you assume you make a fuckwit out of yourself because you're retarded
run along normalfag bitch boy

>>23045837
The flavonoid extraction is part and particle of the fermentation; asif by design. Alcohol is good in moderation. It also elevates mood and acts as a social lubricant. Jews don't drink

>>23045845
congrats
it gets easier

>>23045850
>Alcohol is good in moderation
There's actually mountains of evidence to disprove this claim, there are no benefits starting even from one gram of ethanol, there's not even such a thing as microdosing with measured benefits.
It's poison trough and trough.

Ethanol is no beneficial whatsoever, you do not need it. Alcohol is an active placebo, you are the one who elevates his own mood, who imparted mystical properties to that chemical, look into research with alcoholics how their "craving" goes off when they go to shop for alcohol not when they drink, how when they are told that they're drinking placebo but it's actually alcohol they sip just a tiny amount and report no elevated "cravings" thereafter but those that drink actual placebo but are told it's alcohol drink almost the whole glass and report "cravings".

Society is fucked up in the head with all the myths and bullshit it propagates about alcohol in movies, culture etc. It's always been a big industry, even kings in the not so distant past promoted it and got many people hooked on it because they could have monopoly on it and huge revenues.

>>23045850
> Jews don't drink
Purim would like to have a word
>t. Jew

>>23045845

>>23045774 (OP)
Heroin, benzos, weed, gambling, Jesus etc

>>23045774 (OP)
Depends on how your brain works. If you get hyper focused on things, you can use that to your advantage against the liquid jew. If not, then I don't know.

>>23045840
>6 Now there were six stone water jars ... each holding twenty or thirty gallon
>stone jars
Is this pottery?, or hollowed out stone. Where can I buy such jugs?

>>23045774 (OP)
Replace drinking with running. Getting high off the endorphins at the end is better than drinking. Also why work like a donkey for the privilege of paying some jews to poison your body and get cancer? Alcohol ages you significantly and it makes you look old and bald

>>23045774 (OP)
Most people drink because they are bored, got free time and got nothing better to do. So, if you got free time - you doing something wrong. Free time = alcoholism

>>23045857

>>23045774 (OP)
I’m 18 months sober and I did two things. First I used prayer that Jesus would deliver me from alcoholism and second I used a medication called NALTREXONE it’s a cheap medication that literally stops you from getting cravings.


I used to crave alcohol like I needed it. Got off work? Drink. Warm day outside ? Drink. Hungover from drinking all night ? Drink. That medication works very well.

>>23045857
They would have been carved stone pots, probably limestone. Clay/ceramic wasn't considered clean enough to use to store water for ritual purification purposes.

>>23045774 (OP)
I started taking seizure medication, carbamazepine, and now when I have one drink of alcohol I get so incredibly sick to my stomach I feel like I am going to die.
Tried a few times.
Beer.
Wine.
Whiskey.
All same result.
Haven't had a drink in about 4 years and won't have any for the rest of my life.
Am conditioned now, when I think about it I get nauseous.
Wonder why they don't do conditional therapy or if its too dangerous for alcoholics.

Being sober is the drug. You're mentally at your best and you can do anything. That's a liberating feeling

>>23045860
>Pottery
Those are lovely. I have been cooking all my meals of late in a 2 gallon cast iron 3 legged cauldron over a fire. Now I want to try clay pots. They are around, around here.

not drinking is free

>>23045862
>carved limestone pots - 22 gallons
How much in silver today?

>>23045774 (OP)
Stop being a faggots and drink in moderation.

Why do worthless people make everything worse for everyone else.
The lowest common denominator has to be removed.

>>23045868
normalfaggot this thread isn't for you

>>23045862
With diamond prices cratering we might be entering a new and beautiful stone age. Imagine machining rock on the cheap

>>23045792
>I just don't like the taste of alcohol
I'm assuming you don't like spirits of high alcohol percentage.
Either drink beer or make sweet cocktails.
Play with other taste profiles aswell.
Add some acidity and maybe bitter notes.

>>23045774 (OP)
there is no secret
you already know the answer
>literally just stop drinking the shit
it's that simple

recognizing it for the problem that it is means you're already 80% of the way to where you need to be

>>23045869
The irony is that his advice is solid and the normalfaggot take is dominant in this thread, that addiction is compulsive, that they are diseased, that moderation is magically impossible for the "addict".

If you want the easiest, braindead friendly, effective and possible for all levels of humans advice, moderation is the best, just control your dosage and frequency of intakes, just do that, it's doable, don't need to have any purpose behind it just do that, it'll usually help you realize many useful things once you do it and eventually just quit it entirely if you prefer to do that/

>>23045869
>You're a normalfag if your not an alcoholic.
Kys nigger.

The people that can't handle alcohol are normalfags or worthless pathetic scums.

>>23045776
Kudzu will help.

>>23045873
>>23045874
>t. normalfaggot sippers
might as well just avoid the poison

>>23045865
The stone cups with the little handles are actually pretty cool looking

>>23045876
Maybe I'll do that If I prefer to do that. I prefer to do it for God half a year during Lent + fasting days.

>>23045774 (OP)
Don't drink. Its a choice to be in an altered state. I bourbon as much as the next guy however... Its not a tenable solution. You're reaching out for help & to connect and /pol always pitches in to help you clowns but ultimately its on you brother. The final answer solution resolution is don't out the bottle or the glass to your lips & swallow... Try different 12 step meetings. Look for a sponsor etcetc they swear by it, tons of them... Ultimately its on you anon. Take back your power and don't drink.

>>23045774 (OP)
Try snaping your fingers

>>23045878
some people dont care and want to drink and keep going once they've had the first one. and the more you have its harder to cuck yourself into stopping before you pass out
it really is a garbage poison

>>23045810
Weed comes from the internet tard

>>23045870
Synthetic gemstones are getting ridiculously cheap.

>>23045876
>sipper
I'm not some lightweighter like you, nig.

Jesus

>>23045884
>I'm not some lightweighter
you just claimed you drink in moderation
boring troll anon

>>23045886
Yeah, I drink how much I want just not to the extent that I am not in control of myself.
It's not hard.

>>23045777
Sunt asa de gelos pe tine

>>23045881
I know but its delusional in nature, they prefer to drink to such a strong level that they accept losing loved ones, wrecking their health, ruining their brains (let's be honest, for normies it's for life, no one will try to employ neuroplasticity at its limits after abuse), I guarantee you that if they were presented with the right information and told that it's ok, you have free will and you can mod rate right now if you want they would do that, overwhelmingly, because once you do the mental work of evaluating alcohol, being mindful about its state in the raw form and so on you just don't see a point in it. It does much more impairing than anything once the myths are gone and you see clearly.

Funny how when people embrace true freedom they do less stupid shit as a result.

>>23045887
>just not to the extent that I am not in control of myself.
so a lightweight
you have checkmated yourself normalfaggot

>>23045774 (OP)
Just stop. That's what I did and it worked.

>people drink every 5day and saturday and think they are not alcoholics
Youre supposed to drink once or twice a year.

>>23045877
>Core cups
Apparently a whole set of matroshka dolls are machined out of one blank

>>23045890
Are you retarded?

>>23045774 (OP)
What the fuck is this even supposed to mean? Coffee is the second best thing Muslims gave the world (the first one being spreading mathematics) and the best thing to come out of Colombia.

>>23045883
Tricking the goy into putting his diamonds onto a roast beef's finger was the jews most disempowering trick. imagine the stone surfaces we could have machined with a caret

>>23045894
go sober up after your one zesty sweet cocktail with bitter notes bitchtits

>>23045777
Correct. For some this mindset helps.

To stop drinking: admit to yourself that it's a problem and causing you grief. Don't be angry or hard on yourself, just think about the feelings you're having before you drink. Then, when you do drink, tell yourself you're cognizant of the WHY and that it's ok to "fail" at this endeavor.

Start a basic relaxation meditation routine every morning or whatever time works for you, but commit to doing it at least once a day. Don't bother trying to clear your mind to absolute nothing or whatever bs people spout, just learn to fucking relax. Even a few genuine mins of relaxation everyday or even a few times a week, is probably more than you've had in years if you're at a point where drinking has become an issue.

Take a good dose of NAC when you catch yourself drinking. This not only helps the body process out the alcohol quicker, but it helps avoid much of the mental depression after drinking, which can easily turn into a negative feedback loop, especially if you're drinking daily. The issue isn't actually drinking: the issue is an inability to cope with past trauma/negative emotions in any sort of non detrimental let alone positive way, and that's ok. You don't need to solve anything immediately to simply stop drinking so much, you just need to be aware of the why's and what feelings preclude your desire to get hammered.

Tldr: start doing relaxation meditation, and think about how you were feeling in the moments before you start drinking, and take a healthy dosage of NAC (1800mgs or so) as soon as possible when you do find yourself drinking. The mind wants some rest, so give it some rest by learning to relax. The urge to drink will dissipate over time.

>>23045897
I just mentioned something that makes alcohol/spirits more palatable to those that don't like the taste.

You can show your shitty hillbilly moonshine up your ass, you despicable plebeian nigger.

>>23045774 (OP)
Go to prison.

>>23045774 (OP)
You are fighting yourself, only you can win

>>23045900
>thread for alcoholics
>hahaha i can just sip my drinks moderately with my gal pals!
normalfaggot

>>23045903
>sipping
well you obviously are so retarded you don't have any reading comprehension.
Maybe you should get off'd with the niggers and kikes when the time comes.

>>23045774 (OP)
Never been my problem, most books say use less and less though

If you quit all of a sudden it’s not good for you

"the liquid jew" history

>>23045900
>hillbilly moonshine up your ass,
Do you slavs really do this?

>>23045904
>Maybe you should get off'd with the niggers and kikes when the time comes.
im sure the muzzies in swedistan will get you first faggot
anyway good luck trying to keep it moderate

>>23045906
All the image says is that the plebeian masses are retarded and needs controlling by an elite.
The only problem is that the elite is kikes.

>>23045774 (OP)
stop buying it. seriously.

>>23045906
Sounds like 200 years together. (((Sammy Marks))) was the first to distill liquor in the Transvaal. It was the very first factory

>>23045888
Citeste cartea recomandata mai sus.
Eu vin dintr-o familie de alcolisti, genetic ar trebuie sa fie death mark pt mine, m-am apucat acum cativa ani de baut asa ampulea si am dezvoltat o preferinta puternic, consumam zilnic cantiati industriale, nu eram mereu (in fapt rar) beat range, imparteam doze mai mici pe toata ziua insa a durat ani asta, si spre final deja eram beat mai des, cheltuiam enorm pe alcool.
Apoi am descoperit the freedom model si am moderat, m-am si lasat perioade lungi, fara nici-un efect secundar, senzatia ca am pierdut ceva samd.

>>23045905
Dont know what books you reading but actual medical approach to cure alcoholism is quiting cold turkey unless its medically past that point and you have to taper a patient of alcohol as its life threatening. In 99% cases tho, cold turkey is the go to technique. Its a lifelong tolerance question. If one gets to the point of drinking a bottle of vodka a night then quits for a year - if he relapses just for one beer, he most likely will reverse to that bottle of vodka + beer. You cannot cure alcoholism with drinking less. Thats not how it works. You either quit or continue drinking in larger volumes.

>>23045792
My jam lately has been Smirnof Rasberry vodka mixed with an alcoholic seltzer. That will do the trick and it is tasty.

Every dollar you don't spend on jewish products is a dollar you can spend on buying a house.

>>23045774 (OP)
Just don't drink it. Are you a human who has conscious control over his own actions, or not?

>>23045774 (OP)
I dunno what you can do. You let yourself get stuck. I dont possess the gene that lets people chug a fifth of Stoli then go out and do stuff. Any time I felt the urge to day drink or wake up and start drinking I pull back

>>23045916
Its an addiction, you might as well go around fent users ans preach them to stop injecting

>>23045774 (OP)
just stop consuming that shit

>>23045774 (OP)
"if i stop smoking and eat my vegetables
i will die a very health man"

- someones grandfather

>>23045863
Thats not seizure stuff I'm sure it's rather stuff which shuts your liver functions down.
It works for 10 days and it WILL kill you if you try to drink so only trusted people get it from their psychiatrics here. Problem is it only hold you physically away from alcohol and when the alcohol fucked with your brain and you have extreme depression you will drink yourself to death.

>>23045776
That's so gay and cucked.

>>23045774 (OP)
Just don’t drink it lmao

>>23045777
>and know that being sober is the best feeling
I'm sober and i know you're lying.

>>23045777
This is what I did. Drinking to the point where you can see it's negatively impacting you should be a wakeup call. I hate drinking now.

>>23045774 (OP)
You can't truly beat it per se. Once it has a grip on you it's got you for life.
Every day will be a struggle to stay off it.
Buy a Soda stream machine can help. Drink bubbly drinks All day, something with a bit of a reward to it tonreplace what you will miss from alcohol

>>23045899
Ive read that taking NAC while drinking can actually worsen the liver damage? So im taking it an hour before drinking

>>23045774 (OP)
Unironically try shrooms. They seem to have a "reset" effect on the brain that breaks addictions.

See Michael Pollan's book "How To Change Your Mind" for an accessible discussion of it (I don't know if there are German translations available).

>>23045913
>alcoholism is a disease
This is the jewish lie at the heart of the rehab business and the masonic AA. It is victim mentality that absolves the mean drunk from his actions. Moderation is part of wisdom

>>23045916
There's no such thing as free will. It's not compatible with laws of physics.

>>23045779
Today's beer is kind of a problem, it's too strong. The beer men used to be issued as rations on ships and the beer men drank because the water was dirty was 3% alcohol. But just like weed and everything else the modern world has to push it to extremes

>>23045929
AA is a western thing. Also pharma cancer is a mutt problem.

>>23045928
>>23045774 (OP)
Looks like the translation is available and is titled "Verändere dein Bewusstsein: Die neuesten Erkenntnisse der klinischen Erforschung von Psychedelika zu Angst, Depression, Sucht und Transzendenz"

>>23045928
Some hypothesize that it's becomes it forces your brain to pay attention trough the right hemisphere, which is global and instantly unlocks relevant insights.
But you can do the same while sober, attention can modulate itself trough whatever hemisphere you want to do.

>>23045929
>masonic AA
qrd?

>>23045931
They drank like sailors and you know it.

>>23045774 (OP)
Drink green tea, work out, meditate.

>>23045927
yea there's some evidence in a rat study for that, so take it before drinking
I take nac because of its potential glutamate regulation in bran during the day, otherwise I feel jack shit from it, l-theanine is much better and it's above it in glutamate regulation.

>>23045776
Protestant work ethics moment.

>>23045937
based
https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1754243516519050.mp4

Just thinking of how shit I will feel the next day and the money I spent to feel like that made quitting pretty easy.
I quit cold turkey, was emptying a handle of vodka every two days. had a seizure and had to be rushed to hospital, gave me benzos to stabilize me. had delirium for several days. worst time of my life. been off it for 5 years now, don’t miss it. even smelling rubbing alcohol makes me feel sick.

>>23045774 (OP)
Just put down the glass bro.
Earl guy tea and San Pellegrino were made for recovering alcoholics.

>>23045774 (OP)
just stop simple as thats what i did anyone who cant is a baby retard. if you literally cant just go camping for 3 days (dont bring any with you)

>>23045931
The wine Alexander the Great drank was much stronger than today's regular wine, rather as strong as our Port wine with 20% alcohol.
He was a heavy alcoholic from young age.

>>23045935
Checked. Founders were masons; also it inherits some structures. The 12 steps aren't theologicaly sound from a Christian perspective; but many members are cool. Bob D, who many call a jew gave a lovely speech. It's hard to find, I heard it on CD; it's straight outta the book of matthew

>>23045774 (OP)
Just don't drink it. Every time I've had alcohol, I've hated it.

>>23045779
Men have banned booze or heavily restricted its use all through History. If you hear about binge drinking, it is precisely because it was only at rare occasions.

>>23045774 (OP)
The liquid jew is coffee. Alcohol was being made and consumed before jews stepped foot in Europe. Meanwhile, make sure you drink your coffee in the morning so you can go work for Mr Shekelberg and make his money!

>>23045933
>>23045774 (OP)
It's on Zlib in German, BTW.
https://z-library.sk/book/30280089/ed6e31/ver%C3%A4ndere-dein-bewusstsein-die-neuesten-erkenntnisse-der-klinischen-erforschung-von-psychedelika-zu.html

>>23045774 (OP)
Get motivated. Fight. Simple as.

>>23045944
>alexander drinking undiluted wine
>ancient greek
Sure, bud

A slot meant for a bbc thread was freed on /pol/ by this honorary moderator, thank you for wasting everyone's time with your intellect at work!

>>23045938
Weird that this thread got moved to bant when it's a fairly regular 3x week or so /pol/ demoralization thread lol. One of us must be over the target.

Anyway, you're correct; that one study with rats showed in increase in liver damage for the rats who took NAC After alcohol vs the ones given NAC before. I don't recall the specific ld of alcohol or NAC used but, I remember it was excessive AF. Thus, the urban myth of only taking it before drinking was born. It does seem to prevent hangovers better if taken before drinking but...that's not really germaine to a conversation about excessive drinking.

NAC is used clinically to treat acetaminophen overdose. Every one of those packets of hangover cures they sell in drug stores and gas stations has NAC. There is no issue with taking it before, during, or after drinking, in moderate dosages (2k mg or less for an average 150lb adult). It's just an Amino acid. At worst you'll get some diarrhea or nausea, but it's certainly not going to harm you long term.

>>23046024
Someone obviously posted something helpful so they had to pull it.

These threads are obvious psyops meant to appeal to people trapped in alcoholic cycles and make them feel more hopeless. That's why the first dozen or so replies are always about willpower or being weak etc...

...almost of /pol/ is the same demoralization threads over and over. I assume I'm preaching to the choir on this but, I guess I'm stating it for the record and the hope that it helps help some random anon.

>>23046071
>>23046084
i was gonna say, it didn't seem like a demoralization thread, but that makes sense

>>23046090
Yeah. Oldfags like myself still lurk here. Pol can be kind of a barometer to see what bits of news they're scared of or steering discussion on.

Shit like this regular drinking thread is easy to spot though; its probably the same bot responses in most of these same threads.
There are like 20+ threads RN on pol about how hopeless it is to work or date or buy a house, and that's everyday lol. Shit is just silly at this point. It's worse than NPR.

>>23046084
I did my best to spread the truth. If anons are willing to listen then can take not of what I've said, verify each claim independently maybe even read the book.

It worked for me and it even works for smoking. It's considered one of the most addictive substances and using the freedom model framework I can pick it up and leave it as I will without any withdrawal, if I get something akin to that I just tell myself that it's just old brainwashing and it magically vanishes away or either way it's irrelevant and I shouldn't make a fuss about minimal background noise (but there isn't any of that either way).

>>23046084
I did my best to spread the truth. If anons are willing to listen, they can take note of what I've said, verify each claim independently, and perhaps even read the book.

It worked for me, and it even works for smoking. It's considered one of the most addictive substances and using the freedom model framework I can pick it up and leave it as I will without any withdrawal, if I get something akin to that I tell myself that it's just old brainwashing and it magically vanishes away or either way it's irrelevant and I shouldn't make a fuss about minimal background noise (but there isn't any of that either way).

>>23046530
I'm not that familiar with the system you're advocating but, at a cursory glance nothing sounds bad or too culty.

The thread got moved because one of more of us posted something positive is all. It was upposed to exist as a negative demoralization thread. It steered off course from that, so they stuck it here is the simple reasoning.

God forbid we encourage others how to overcome their issues, or make money, or be happy lol. Pol jannies will only promote the opposite of those notions.

Give all ofbyout money away.
Until it wont be spent on treason.
Best to what is good, what deserves it, and what needs it.

Don't fund foetal alchohol syndrome. Or you are that. And will be seen so.

If you aren't generous enough, make a cache. Sonewhere out ofbhe way or sacred, findable again bybyiurself, aid for your lover, you to them is aid too.

>>23045774 (OP)
Hi Hanz! i was a massive boozer and i managed to quit. First go to a doctor and explain you want to quit, he will give meds for the first few weeks ( for me it was 2 weeks benzo)
After that you are on your own. The first few months might be rough and you will miss getting arseholed. But it is totally worth it. You will fix your health, mood and looks. And the money you will save is just extra.
so first. go to doctor, explain you are quitting for good.
step 2, don't drink. if you can't sleep start working out so you are tired af. get new hobby, go out in nature. it's a bit awkward in the beginning but this all goes away after a while.
Step 3: profit. you will get your health back and best you are no longer a slave to the bottle.
Sure you will think about booze still but i see it as a crazy ex. Sure she's fun but i'm not getting involved with that cunt again.

Godspeed Hanz. you can do it!

Some people think the production of alcohol is one of the major drivers of the establishment of sedentary and permanent settlements. Seeing the lengths men go to for booze nowadays I could see it.