How come most flat earthers are mentally retarded christcucks? Their argument almost always comes down to
>le God
>le Bible
>there's no way we aren't in the center of the universe

I'm shitting on your tits. Bitch boy.

>>23086135 (OP)
I want to see a flat gas giant

>>23086135 (OP)
it's not even religion, it's basically just anti-authoritarianism, most of those idiots "don't believe the science" just "because". they would rather believe there's a 100 mile high ice wall separating earth from the realms of giants than believing some mathematician who shows them how much fuel you need to shoot a rocket into space or at which temperature water boils.

>>23086135 (OP)
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>>23086137
I guess if the spin was soooo bad it could probably flatten out a gas giant into a swirling pancake, but I'm not sure if it would be considered a planet at that point.
edit: yes apparently they've been observed and are called flat giants and tend to happen to extremely young gas giants that haven't slowed their rotation yet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvqzmoYuokU

>>23086138
Then this is the most retarded form of anti-authoritarianism. Climate change and shit, I get it, they use that to cut back people's rights. But how does the fact that the Earth is a globe affect them?
>>23086139
I'm not reading all that.

>>23086135 (OP)
how else would flat earth exist if everything revolves around it if not because a Creator?

>>23086137
Your mom is a flat gas giant

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>>23086143
aliens could have made it. thats why the whole stupid idea about 'them' trying to hide God by lying about teh shape of the earth is retarded.

>>23086146
and that would make them the Creators
probably just one, a creation can only have 1 creator

>>23086147
no. it would just mean that they have advanced high technology and made a habitat for us, for some reason. says nothing about the ultimate cause/creator of everything

>>23086148
i dont think we're on the same page on what flat earth cosmology is
if earth is flat, then there is no space if we go by the common model

>>23086149
depends who you talk to. there are as many flat earth 'models' as there are dummies who believe in it.

>>23086136
/thread
Idk how globecels can ever recover from this

>>23086144
someone had to

>>23086150
i mean, thinking that flat earth means OP pic, is equally retarded

>>23086153
i know. but to believe that the planets are fake is even more retarded.

>>23086154
what do you mean by "fake"? everyone says fake, but they never say what they mean

if you are part of the jewish cattle the truth is very hard for you to accept.
because you are programmed to believe lies.

i write this on a water blue ball who's spinning around a giant fireball.

no kidding.

>>23086155
flat earthers never get very specific about what they mean so its hard to say. some seem to believe that the planets etc are merely lights on the inside of the dome they believe in.

what do you think? perhaps you prefer to sound intelligent by saying that you dont know, since expressions of that sort pretend to ideas of erudition.

>>23086157
like you said, they're lights in the sky
you cant objectively say anything else about them

>>23086158
like i said, you believe this makes you sound cool and smart and stuff.

>>23086135 (OP)
High IQ nazi savant here.
let me make things klar
>flat earthers should be gassed
But ackshoooalli, they have a point, historically.

The inquiry into a proper cosmology took time. Eratosthenes certainly wasn't the one getting the ballpark right some 2500 years ago, that's just kosher history. Ancient greek accomplishments are all either renaissance embellishments or cutting edge discoveries (for the time) made into something more sacrosanct by giving it the tint of antiquity.

Proto scientists did start from a flat earth. While the planets were undeniably round we only saw them from the 17th century onwards with our eyes.
Logical claims had a harsh time as many concepts couldn't be verified. To give one example, the parallax movement of stars couldn't be seen with medieval methods which brought us the amusing idea of a spheric heaven.

Once more: the spheric, heliocentric model took centuries to develop and verify. Those steps were hard to compute, prove and deserve respect.

>>23086159
im pretty retarded tho, i just like logic
how can you say anything else about planets?

>>23086161
you can bother to learn about how we know about the planets. of course, if you are already wedded to the idea of the earth being flat with a giant, never before observed or tested, dome over it, then all that stuff is just fake and gay and you're being lied to about it all.

>>23086135 (OP)
>How come most flat earthers are mentally retarded christcucks?
How come flat earth is only a thing AFTER you weed smoking boomers ditched Christianity and embraced atheism and paganism? Did you godhating animals develop the university system, academia and every single academic field, or did Christians do that?

>>23086147
>probably just one, a creation can only have 1 creator
empirically untrue.

>>23086135 (OP)
>How come most flat earthers are mentally retarded christcucks?
Source: my hairy, stinky Jewish ass.

>>23086135 (OP)
You must be 18 to post here

>>23086162
im more like a fence sitter, i admit i can be wrong about anything about the earth
i just find it weird how a model that is supposed to be true and was thoroughly tested requires people using fallacious logic to defend it in debates, that's what made me reject us living on a ball
that, and i was never a space fetishist, meaning i was never emotionally attached to space existing

>>23086164
every single thing that is created has one creator, it can be a compilation of things that other people created for example, that compilation still has only one creator
i can build a house for example, i didnt make the bricks, but that doesnt make it so i didnt build it

>>23086167
what fallacious logic is that?

>>23086169
i mean, give me one argument for why earth is a ball

>>23086145
>>23086139
>tl;dr picrel

>>23086135 (OP)
(((Space))) is fake and gay.

>>23086168
You're appealing to a fallacious, reductionist reading of creation.
Generally, the more complex, the more creators. Very complex things (eg computers) have had hundreds or designers, producers, workers and inventors and even simple biological acts require two people as equal creators (sperm + egg cell).

>>23086173
i guess we need to agree to disagree
and sperm + egg cell are materials

>>23086170
it just is. thats what shape it is. have you any idea the level of fakery you're talking about? yes yes , i know you're smarter than everyone and can comprehend such things while we mere morons would never believe such things to be possible, but there it is.

>>23086135 (OP)
OP is a retarded faggot

>>23086175
>it just is
and you're making fun of me? if it actually "just is" then you'd have no problem giving one argument
we dont even need to debate it

>>23086174
Meh, you don't argue cleanly. If a human life does not have a mother and father, there does not exist a concept of creation for you. Disenfranchising parents completely negates creation of any kind, as the act itself becomes detached from reality and wholly abstract. Creation is nonexistant and nothing exists except the proposition of something (therefore something=god, therefore bible=true but that's optional)

This supra tautology is the basis of christian logic.

>>23086135 (OP)
When you start to actually think about it, the whole solar system story breaks down. Like how come I have to LOOK to find the moon when with all that gravitational pull I should FEEL where it is at all times.

>>23086176
That shit is the most retarded analogy I've ever seen, unironically fucking kill yourself.

>>23086177
you know all the evidence but you refuse to accept it for whatever reason. whats the point in recapitulating it again?

>>23086180

>>23086179

>>23086135 (OP)
you're the one who is mentally retarded

too bad you'll never figure it out because ... well, you know ...

>>23086181
i dont see the problem, you'd be right about me if i just say it's fake and gay

>>23086184
No u

>>23086138
>>23086142
Antartica is a fucking ice wall moron. It's an entire fucking continent of ice that has an average height of mt. everest. But like all globers you go from not knowing that at all to completely dismissing its relevance in the timespan of the brainfart that you call a thought.

>>23086185
i also dont see the problem. the earth is simply a large globular object.

>>23086182

>>23086188
then you'd have no problem giving me a reason why it is like that

>>23086189

flatearthers are fedniggers, and like all fedniggers should be run over in all cases

>>23086135 (OP)
just fucking kys redditnigger
Sega CD time (Lethal Enforcers)

>>23086135 (OP)
Flat earth is a Jewish Talmudic belief anon.

>>23086191

>>23086195

>>23086190
like i said, you've had all this explained to you many many times. people more patient and educated than me have spent time doing this. but you refuse it all and deal in double standards while claiming to only value reason, logic and evidence.
but we both know that its not about that for you.

>>23086196

>>23086197
>why don't you submit to jewish lies like i did????
>dr. smartestberg already explained the truth to you and you still don't accept it????
lmao if only you knew what a weak drone you are

>>23086197
im actually baffled, so the earth is a ball, but you have no argument?
you're telling me that you religiously believe that earth is a ball?
im amazed
>>23086199
stop replying instead of me, janez, he's gonna think that you're me

>>23086198

>>23086135 (OP)
Woke atheists believe a men can get pregnant though. It's just as stupid.

>>23086200
>he's gonna think
doubt

>>23086201

>>23086135 (OP)
Sup idiot. Have you ever seen the planets with your own eyes? It's pointless to speculate what people claim something looks like without seeing it for youself, just believe anything you want. It pisses stupid people off too.

>>23086201

>>23086135 (OP)
I'm not a Christcuck and I don't believe in Globe Earth because NASA is a Jewish controlled psyop

>>23086195
In Brazil

>>23086204

>>23086135 (OP)
Most flat earthers are trolling midwit liberal atheists to make them dance.

>>23086207
Then explain How come it's morning where you live and night where I live?

>>23086209

>>23086191
A theory in science is not an hypothesis. It's something that was hypothesized, tested several times, and has an explanation.

>>23086211

thread is now ruined, thanks

>>23086214
How the fuck does the sun go above me then and not always off to the side?

>>23086216

>>23086212
All 3 are wrong. You can observe gravity in various means in big and small scale, it's permanent so also repeatable, and it's measurable on earth with Newton equations, and on space with Einstein general theory of relativity. What is unknown is what causes gravity. The effects and measurements are well known and have been proven several times.

>>23086218

>>23086216
The sun makes smaller circles in the winter months

>>23086218
you're literally parroting the primary school textbook so-called arguments

you aren't bringing anything new to the table, you're just exposing yourself as retarded

just so you know

>>23086215

>>23086212
>schizokraut gets called out for being a retarded faggot and has an autistic meltdown
Kek. Quintessential flatcuck moment

>>23086214
Now explain seasons!

>>23086219
First part is wrong. Newton knew the calculations were incomplete and only worked on Earth. Einstein is the one that solved gravity equations ok space, not Newton.

The others I don't know.

>>23086135 (OP)
/thread

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>>23086223
>>23086224

>>23086221
It's retarded to say something obvious. Got it. Maybe you should stop breathing and see if you survive because it's probably FBI lying to us all.

>>23086224
even if he could not explain them, that wouldnt make the earth a ball, retard Poojeet

>>23086227

>>23086135 (OP)
Curve starts 4.66km out if you stand down at the shore looking out the horizon. Globetards nag about flat earthers but they don't even know, or understand the numbers behind their belief.

>>23086229
A ball can explain seasons, so if there is no other explanation, we would go with ball.

>>23086232

>>23086135 (OP)
I just don't get how small a persons existence must be for people who believe the world is flat. I mean, lets think about it at a fundamental level: How many people in the world would have to be in on this conspiracy?
So, all navigational maps are wrong and yet planes, boats, cars seem to navigate just fine. So, every airline and ship captain is in on the conspiracy? You can navigate your local country, quite literally get in a car and measure the distance very simply with a calculator and check the distances with an actual map you can get for free online. So you are in on the conspiracy too or is it just your car or maybe all the maps?
Everyone who works with cartography are in on it. Every one goes to university to study something like architechture has a secret lecture where the proff tells them the world is flat? Do they sign a secret pact with satan on pain of torture if they tell people?
Were already at a point where billions of people would have to be in on it.
Instead of taking simple steps to disprove it flat earthers take some convoluted logic with things they don't understand and claim it's proof. I haven't gotten to the complex stuff for this very reason.

>>23086135 (OP)
the round earth propaganda is to protect the idea of the solar system, which was the idea of zionists to push for a new religion based on stars. this is why "scientists" exist, as they were supposed to be equal to priests. albert einstein is the modern day moses. what he wrote is complete nonsense yet people believe it because they are told to. they get so sensitive about the flat earth because it is the weak spot to their entire argument. just like how a christian doesnt care wether or not you question if the fruit eve ate was really an apple, but he gets really mad if you ask if god had siblings or ancestors, because it denies christianity as a statement against polytheistic religions that claims there is only one god. the flat earth brings up the topic of gravity and denies that space was naturally formed over billions of years. the flat earth argues that space has always been the same, never changed and has yet to be properly explained. it rejects the explanation jews are trying to hand to you.

>>23086233

>>23086232
>big foot is real and he brings me mail to my postbox
>i find mail in my postbox
>conclude big foot is real
that's your logic

>>23086228
no, you're unironically the most retarded poster in the entire thread, i'm not saying that to offend you, i'm giving you a medical diagnosis
you're so retarded that it only took one short post to know you're basically brain dead
and there's a literal shit eater in the thread

>>23086135 (OP)
>if I see a thing in the sky that means I'm that thing too

lol

le science

>>23086237
That's actually the logic of everything, we keep theories untill they are disproven or there is a better one.

>>23086139
This one always gets me hahaha.
>>23086142
It's a copypasta. Get filtered by the language barrier lul!

>>23086236

>>23086235
reminder: if we were truly wrong nobody would care. the fact that people are so desperate to push down and argue against flat earthers and outright insult us for simple questions and statements is proof that there is much more to this topic than people want to admit.

>>23086219
About dark energy and dark matter, whenever you have dark it's something unknown.

Einstein general theory of relativity only works inside a galaxy, but in cosmos, the interaction between galaxies, it doesn't work. Whether they made up dark energy and dark matter idk. Gravitons I know we're made up and never observed.

>>23086244

>>23086199
>>23086200
this from the guy that happily dismisses everything he's ever shown without feeling the slightest need to support his case. you're a funny guy.

>>23086240
you dont even understand my analogy
it's unfalsifiable, and that's the point

>>23086243
It's because the subject is very stupid. It's funny to people, others are frustrated, some further still want to prove how smart they are. There's many reasons why.

>>23086238
Okay Slovenia

>>23086246

>>23086135 (OP)
This just isn't true go in any flerf den and ask if flatties are Christians every flerf will spout off "im not a Christian" because they are actually Gnostics, flerfism is derived from Gnosticism, it's closer to satanism

>>23086246
>happily dismisses everything he's ever shown
what did you show, what did i dismiss? you first need to show something for me to dismiss
are you a bot?

>>23086135 (OP)
Flat Earthers claim the Earth is flat, but never prove what's underneath. What's even funnier is that they don't know how think the Earth is, but currently think it's 7 to 75 miles thick. That means it isn't flat you dumbasses.

>>23086251

>>23086245
Do what? A camera that can zoom that far away in real time? Is it even possible with current technology?

>>23086135 (OP)
because it seems to line up with different things said in the bible. its mentioned as being a circle. there's one part that says 4 corners of the earth. another part mentions "the middle of the earth" which would make it hard to be round unless they're talking about the core filled with lava

at least one part kind of acknowledges space saying "he suspends the earth over nothing"

it was a book written over 2 thousand years ago by retarded sand people, they did not have the knowledge of geography we have today.

>>23086255

>>23086135 (OP)
Other planets are flat as well you fucking mongoloid

>>23086253
the deepest hole ever dug was ~12km, anything anyone says is beyond that is an assumption, dont apply your scrutiny selectively!

>>23086257
Some rockets do go to space, like ICBM.

>>23086258

>>23086257
Huuuuuur duurrrrrrrr shoot another rocket into the ocean we got to fool the flatties HAHAHAHA idiots

>>23086135 (OP)
>fed well poisoning to make every conspiracy theory look retarded is retarded
who would have guessed!

>>23086135 (OP)
I've surmised that neither side of the argument know anything, and that's okay. I'll just sit and watch

>>23086222
>Image
Because all mass has gravity. The heavier elements sink to the bottom, while the lighter elements rise to the top. Helium is a rare element on Earth because it evaporates out of the Earth's atmosphere, even though it's the 2nd most abundant element in the universe. All the helium we get is from underground sources, that only formed because of millions of years of radiation decay of larger elements.

>>23086259
You don't have to dig a hole to find what's underneath. I would have thought metal detectors were evidence enough of methods to do such a thing.

>>23086266
nothing human made has that kind of a range

>>23086267
>nothing human made has that kind of a range

Scientists measure the Earth's interior using various methods, including analyzing seismic waves from earthquakes, studying the Earth's magnetic and gravitational fields, and conducting laboratory experiments on rocks at high pressures and temperatures. These techniques help determine the Earth's layered structure, composition, and physical properties.

>>23086267
i guess you got into this topic not too long ago since you still have the energy to actually respond to these retards?

>>23086135 (OP)
>false representation of what Flat Earth is

>>23086135 (OP)
Reminder that globetards are the ones behind the anti christian threads and spam up /x/ with their "official narrative I trust"

>>23086268
Looks more like a cock

>>23086217
globetards BTFO'd

>>23086250
so the sun is how high?

>>23086252
everything. you reject it all. why should anyone bother with you? you have no standards at all, other than 'the earth is flat'.

>>23086275
quote me dismissing anything

>>23086145
You forgot the part where you get really upset but in a faggy passive gay way that someone didnt think women are equal.

>>23086277

>>23086269
where's the range number?
>>23086270
i've been in these threads for years, i just took a break at the start of the year and was in the mood to argue about this

>>23086279
>where's the range number?
What do you mean by that?

>>23086268
THE TRUTH

>>23086280
>>nothing human made has that kind of a range
what is the range of those instruments?

>>23086281
Is it a pp????

>>23086279
cool, their ignorance tired me out long ago so now i just call them retards
good to know you exist tho

>>23086282
Are you dumb or something? The info briefly explains the types of tests have been done to determine what is underneath our feet. You don't have to physically go somewhere to know what something is made of, with the metal detector being a simple example on how it is done.

>>23086269
ITS FAAAAAKE!!!1
dont you get IT????1

>>23086135 (OP)
I think they are just left wing spics. Also arguing with them is a mistake. Their premise is dishonest from the get go. They know what science proves but they are taught to ignore facts and to repeat the same retarded shit over and over. They are taught to rely on the ignorance of another person.

>>23086285
i can dig a hole at the range a metal detector has, i cant dig kilometers down, dummy
i just want clarification for what's the range of the instruments that you posted

>>23086285
>you don't have to see it to know what it looks like

You have no right to be calling others dumb.

>>23086139
Based narcissist redditor

>>23086288
>i can dig a hole at the range a metal detector has
The point I made with that is that you can find out what's below your feet that is buried with other material. I can't believe I'm having to explain such a simple concept.

>i just want clarification for what's the range of the instruments that you posted
Here.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth%27s_inner_core

As you can see, it says exactly the same thing I posted in a reply to you.

>>23086135 (OP)
flat earth is literally a jewish belief, they even have pictures in their "jewish bible"

you're low IQ and easily manipulated so you think otherwise, it's why humans don't consider women/non-whites to be actual people. you can't make rational decisions since emotion colors everything you do, makes you stupid

>>23086291
i see you misunderstood me, i specifically said beyond the 12km, because you cant know what's beyond it
just because picrel exists, doesnt mean that that's the composition of earth in reality, im simplifying here
the further down you want to check, the worse the readings of the instruments, and if you cant dig that far down, you cant verify the things they assume are down there which is illogical

>>23086195
Not how evolution works

>>23086285
>You don't have to physically go somewhere to know what something is made of
you're dealing with someone who doesn't believe that. its because he doesn't understand how things work, but thats what you've got there mate.
he thinks that if he cant go down to the bottom the hole and watch the drillhead turn its all fake.

>>23086292
And what makes you think we live on a spinning ball? Because Science™ told you so?

>>23086293
>i see you misunderstood me, i specifically said beyond the 12km, because you cant know what's beyond it
Yes you can, as explained with the seismographs of earthquakes. Earth's core is its deepest region, meaning if you can measure that, then you can measure the rest.

Why don't you buy a seismograph and move to New Zealand. Having an understanding of technology will give you the results you want to disprove.

>>23086297
retardation, you need an actual observation of something before you can conclude what it is or what it's made of
inferring something from readings from an instrument is an assumption at best, any intellectually honest person will tell you that
also, how would a seismograph that just measures the ground shaking be evidence of what's even 1km down?

>>23086298
>you need an actual observation of something before you can conclude what it is or what it's made of
thats what you do with sound waves, see? smart people know what different materials do to sound waves and they can use them to understand things which are farther away than the end of their nose.

>>23086295
NTA

>believe
that's the keyword
just say that the ball is your belief, your religion, and literally no flat earther with have a problem with you
you don't understand that we don't have all the variables and therefore assumptions are just that - assumptions
and if history is full of anything, it's full of assumptions being proven wrong
when they were digging the kola superdeep, they used these very same instruments to predict what comes next, and they were wrong at every single stage

>>23086298
>retardation, you need an actual observation of something before you can conclude what it is or what it's made of
You don't need to see with your own eyes. You just need evidence.

>inferring something from readings from an instrument is an assumption at best, any intellectually honest person will tell you that
You can measure the size and thickness of something with sound (ultrasound for example)

>also, how would a seismograph that just measures the ground shaking be evidence of what's even 1km down?
Because earthquakes vibrate through the earth, like a loud bag in a large room.

The problem with people like you is that you deny measurements by means other than human eyes. That is why you fail.

funny how half of round-earthers' argument revolves around 'trusting the science'.

Nothing to do with God and actually science. You can't measure the curve they say should exist. Doesn't rely on anything except your eyes and some basic math.

I have the benefit of living next to a large lake with a city behind it. Standing on the water's edge, when I look at the city behind, I should only see buildings 21 storey's or higher. The lower 20 floors should be hidden behind the curve of the earth. Alas, nothing is obscured and I can zoom right in to the first floor, the boats in the harbour.

Can't say if it is flat or if it is round, much larger diameter than reported. But it definitely does not curve as they say it does.

>>23086301
You don't need to see with your own eyes. You just need evidence.
the evidence needs to be tangible, not lines or numbers on a piece of paper
>You can measure the size and thickness of something with sound (ultrasound for example)
non seq
>Because earthquakes vibrate through the earth, like a loud bag in a large room.
that cant tell you what's 12km down, dummy
>The problem with people like you is that you deny measurements by means other than human eyes. That is why you fail.
the problem with me is that i want something to actually be observable before i can conclude anything about a phenomenon, like a person employing the scientific method would
you think that looking at lines on a seismograph can tell you what's 12km down, dont make me laugh

>>23086300
it just sounds like you dont understand what evidence means.

>>23086304
>the evidence needs to be tangible, not lines or numbers on a piece of paper
if you understand things those lines and numbers are tangible. you dont, so it all seems like magic and divination.
>>23086304
>non seq
no its not. it a physical fact. now, the physics and processes are always open to question and debate but you dont have anything of substance to offer as part of that debate. you just have 'i dont believe it' and nobody cares.
>>23086304
>that cant tell you what's 12km down, dummy
but you can have a pretty good idea using the tools at our disposal. if you doubt what those tools say, as you clearly do, then its on you to offer informed reasons for that doubt. again, 'i dont believe it' doesn't really work in a serious context.
>i want something to actually be observable before i can conclude anything about a phenomenon
but it IS observable. just not in a way that you understand, which is why you reject it. ignorance is not a justifiable grounds for rejecting things.

>>23086135 (OP)
>How come most ball earth believers are mentally retarded christcucks?
>Their argument almost always comes down to
>>le God
>>le Bible
>>there's no way we aren't in the center of the universe
>le spinning ball while not losing water or atmosphere
>le spinning planets while couldn't even solve basic 3 planet problem

>>23086135 (OP)
It's just a psyop to distract from the larger implications regarding earth itself. If people knew what was being suppressed you would actually see some radical changes happen.

>>23086135 (OP)

>>23086306
they aren't Christians. they come on here trying to associate Christ with flat earth garbage as one more way to dishonor Him. They also tend to instantly start asking you ive you've taken your vaxx, because they want to associate being against weird government mandated gene therapy with being a flat earther retard.

>>23086304
>the evidence needs to be tangible, not lines or numbers on a piece of paper
All evidence including observations are based on measurements. That means you can transform those measurements into different mediums, such as light and sound. The fact you deny such things in the face of them only shows how far you're willing to go to uphold your delusions. By denying measurements (lines or numbers on a piece of paper) you're effectively saying metal detectors and ultrasounds are fake. 99% of the developed world would laugh their asses off at you, including primary school children.

>>23086137
Gas giant doesn't exist. It's all photoshop and fantasies.

>>23086310
if a metal detector starts beeping, you dont know what the thing underground is, you need to actually dig it out first, and that's my whole point
you're essentially making up or plainly assuming shit by saying that there's molten rock or metal 10000km or whatever number down
that's the one problem i have with this approach, the approach is unscientific

>>23086309
The Vatican jesuits are pushing ball earth.
>le bible
>le ball
>le sticks
>le pendulum (Nobody can check that one)
Basically the god believers are pushing ball without any scientific proof whatsoever.

>>23086312
>that's my whole point
yeah, i know what your point is. and its a silly point based on having no idea how such processes are arrived at and understood. but hey, you should write papers on all this stuff and prove the world wrong since you're so logical and scientific and such.

>>23086313
sun rays are parallel not divergent
it's called distance retard

>>23086313
theres lots of evidence. its just that you dont like it and feel not the slightest need to show why you reject it.

>>23086315
>sun rays are parallel not divergent
almost exactly practically parallel. they say theres about half a degree of divergence.

>>23086312
I've shown and explained to you how the data is collected, it's no one else's fault that you're in denial about it.

>>23086318
can you not comprehend english? i dont care how the data is collected, i care that it's used as evidence for things you believe as fact when they are just assumptions

>>23086176
the problem with this stance is that once you accept that all other planets are spherical but not the earth you have already dug yourself in an untenable position

Flat earthers that are Christians are creationists and take the Bible literally...
It's like asking a Muslim spme question outside the realm of the qurran it doesn't compute in their ideologically rotted brain.

>>23086147
>creation can only have 1 creator
what

>>23086320
you're so fucking retarded and ignorant even honest balltards will admit they're ashamed of your post

>>23086322
exactly what i said, the one guy did make me think about this statement when talking about creating life tho
i need to think about it, i could retract this at one point

>>23086321
real Bible believing Christians are NOT flat earthers

https://answersingenesis.org/astronomy/earth/does-bible-teach-earth-flat/

>>23086319
They're not assumptions. Assumptions have no clear evidence, or any evidence at all. Recorded 'lines and numbers on a piece of paper' IS the evidence.

Go back to school anon, your ignorance is embarrassing to see.

>>23086325
Sorry, but I've seen how creationists have coped over the years, if you take the Bible literally it hints that the earth is flat, trying to distance yourself from that fact means you just aren't a Bible literalist.

>>23086325
>answersingenesis
lel

for anyone interested in what an actual ball-believing bible expert has to say about it

>full version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rN2Ppbrtf-Q

>the most important part
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcNeHXOiUMg

>>23086319
>i dont care how the data is collected,
you do, but only when the ways its collected is something you understand, which is very little.
>they are just assumptions
when you work with carefully calibrated apparatus which do a certain thing which you have tested a bazillion times before and you get a certain result, then you have a fairly good reason to trust what its telling you. Every single thing your doubting and calling fake and unreliable without the slightest reason has been tested for many years, which is why people trust it. If you want to call in to doubt things like seismology because you simply refuse to believe that its possible to use sound waves to measure things in the ground then it really is on you not only to show some understanding of the field but also to provide sufficient evidence and reason for your doubts.

as usual you just hide behind your skepticism fetish, never feeling the weight of evidence which you place upon yourself. its sad. and silly.

>>23086135 (OP)

>image making fun of flat earthers that uses outer space and earth revolves around the sun

Flat Earthers don't believe in outer space.

>>23086331
Source: National Transportation Safety Board:
https://data.ntsb.gov/Docket/?NTSBNumber=DCA18IA092

>>23086327
take that up with the professional scientists that think God made the world and stake their reputations on it. it doesn't matter what someone on the internet you talked with one time said.

>>23086329
you're not Christian, clearly.

>>23086331
>>23086333
After takeoff the plane travels at level flight and its pitch does not change for two hours before the plane got into difficulties. Travelling at around 500mph for two hours, the plane would be required to drop 128 miles (677,824 feet) to match the claimed earth curvature. This means the plane would be required to constantly pitch down and drop an average 5,645 feet per minute, which does not happen as proven by the flight data.

>>23086277
>>23086278
Holy shit what a bunch of faggots

>>23086331
>>23086333
so? what are you saying?

>>23086334
>creationist
>a scientist

No they got their degree at like kentucky Christian tech in truthology or some shit and then try to dismantle what the Bible says and then rework it to sound less dumb and more "scientific".
It's cope, just admit the Bible shouldn't be taken literally, there's no shame in it.

>>23086335
oooh i see.

https://walter.bislins.ch/bloge/index.asp?page=How+Airplanes+follow+the+Curvature+of+the+Earth%2C+Physics+Simulation

>>23086338
you can look up what any of them do.

>>23086337
Airplanes travel in a horizontal path above a horizontal flat earth. The nose of an airplane never dips down to follow any earth curvature, as it must if the earth was a ball. In order to maintain lift, planes travel in a level path with the nose of the plane pitched up.

>>23086338
an honest balltard, so refreshing

>>23086339
>Simulation
In reality, airplanes do not follow the (non-existent) curve of earth.

>>23086340
>planes travel in a level path with the nose of the plane pitched up.
not really. all depends on the AOA thats built into it. anyway, level flight just means you maintain a certain altitude above ground (more or less). if the ground curves at the rate of one degree per 70 miles thats just what the craft follows and any slight changes are lost in the general movement which happens constantly. this really isn't the point you want it to be.

>>23086342
maybe try reading it, i dont know

>>23086135 (OP)
why does someone else belief makes you seethe so much, tranny?

learn to recognize pajeet threads. learn to stop giving (You)s, which end up as rupees, to OPs like this. jews pay pajeets to spam this board en masse with the same globohomo agenda that you're still associating with only jews. since 2023 you are much more likely to see jew noise posted by a pajeet. there are a hundred times as many pajeets as there are jews. if you want any part of the internet to survive, you must detect, reject and redeem pajeets everywhere you find them

the majority of pajeets on /pol/ try to hide the fact that they're pajeets. in addition to "leaving that part out" they will proactively, persistently misrepresent their true form. pajeets are all about assuming other people's roles, from today's outsourcing and replacement migration all the way back to thuggee bandits lying to travelers about who they were. pajeets are devoid of their own identity, making them the ideal globalized goyim. they don't want a home where they belong. all that means to them is "compete in squalor." much better to go somewhere nicer, built by other people, and do their jobs for less pay and live slum-barracks life in their suburbs. pajeets don't want to be home. they also don't want to be pajeets. jews know exactly how to play their insecurities and dopey ambitions like the innocent rube fresh off the bus from the cornfield. this is their new golem to replace the ones that don't love them anymore

only a few specific groups have the time or inclination to spam anti-christianity so frequently. one of these groups (pajeets) is much more numerous and less qualified than the others

argentina https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZo0tBBwxdk
bulgaria https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkPQlkFP1uw
chile https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ug9SEBpCDA
croatia https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84AA99ZMSgs
finland https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBZrlFh-s2M
greece https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6La80gdmG4w
guatemala https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AIgeTowc-U
honduras https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-XZRVyL1WM
hungary https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EeR_FLtAls0
ireland https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMFLt_kwa7U
japan https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3RQ1ykyLzs
korea (worst) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3ucPOUgqcA
latvia https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWc_3tPrKfI
lebanon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEQEXbU9S4I
moldova https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hj0BnP-y9rA
montenegro https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DY5QYq-QTwA
peru https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqA-ICZamvQ
poland https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dYWkJzo25s
slovakia https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4XGicWgZro
slovenia https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjwdCFv2ktI
switzerland https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_7hrsNVYuU
vietnam https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7F13b0iE6b0
>try it yourself: youtube search "indian immigration to [name any country]"

when in doubt, try this
CLINICAL TEST QUESTION
>are you descended from south asian subcontinental ancestry?
any answer longer than "no" means yes
not answering means yes
lying means yes

>>23086339
>As a Christian, my biggest concern is that it doesn't agree at all with the Genesis account of how the world came to be, and my big concern is that when you make that the fingerprint of God, as it were, then when the big bang is discarded, what does that do to Christianity?

.t dr. danny r. faulkner

His masters in philosophy and astronomy really make him super science guy.

>>23086352
likely more than you are, wouldnt you agree? its also easy to just attack the person instead of what he says, did you notice that?